Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
dirtbikerr450 said:
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
butikofer08 said:
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
butikofer08 said:
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
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How do you know if you have the stock firmware on your phone.
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
geocepe said:
I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
geocepe said:
Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
geocepe said:
Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
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That's because for them its a chore but to justify it they get paid. Here, we do it because its something we actually ENJOY doing (well.. not all of us like to help people) and we're more enthusiastic.
I never deal with customer support unless its something out of my hands.
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
richan90 said:
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
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Thanks for the input. Im real new at this but Im starting to catch on. The group of people on this forum are real helpful.
backslide311 said:
I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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2.1 has it built in too.. its just the U.S. versions of the Galaxy S has it removed because of the carrier.
Just think of "STOCK ROM" as the default ROM without any modifications. That's the best explanation of it.
If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
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there won't be an update until at least sometime next year I wouldn't worry for a while.
The only phone get ICS directly from Google is Galaxy Nexus (and maybe Galaxy S). We have to get update from AT&T who must get update (and sit on it) from Samsung who get the ICS source from Google then make a ROM out of it.
So, official ICS for i777 is probably 6 months away. If you have custom ROMs, you won't be able to upgrade via the official process. If you rooted, you may or may not be able upgrade successfully either (it depends how much AT&T/samsung hates you).
But, I'm pretty sure official ICS ROM will be leaked months before AT&T release it. You can then download the flash to that instead of waiting for AT&T to release it. When you do that, rooted or custom ROM does not matter since it will wipe your phone clean.
The only benefit of waiting for official release is that the upgrade process won't wipe your phone clean. You get to keep all your settings and apps.
CollegeProfesor said:
If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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to answer your question, no one can be 100% sure if you will get the OTA update even if you're still running the stock rom while rooted. It should work but it may not.
Then as everyone else said, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Our i777 has not been guaranteed an ICS update and even if it is getting it, it wont be for a long time. Long enough not to worry about that question at this point in time.
As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
xJoe3x said:
As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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I am just running rooted stock. Any good place to keep track of that info?
depends on update
it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
mas4489 said:
it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
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I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
Thing I really want is an update to get the brightness widget in the notificaiton bar. The current version I have does not have that update.
xJoe3x said:
I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
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I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
mas4489 said:
I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
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I have not worked with a custom rom before, though I am not opposed to doing so. What should I know about customer roms? I heard that CM9 was out for the S3 what do think of that as a custom mod.
its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
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its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
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Hmm ya it looks like a good choice. I think I may go with it, but cyanogenmod has a nightly too which I have heard is supposed to be a great rom.
I'm a pretty impatient person when it comes to something I get excited about
I really want JB on my SIII, but I also want to root it so I can fully unleash it's potential. However, I'm unsure if I should wait a couple of days for Kies to show me that there's an update for my phone.
Will it be worth the wait or shall I root now and flash the Poland official? All recommendations are welcome and I'm sorry if I shouldn't have started a whole new thread about it.
BlurrOVO said:
I'm a pretty impatient person when it comes to something I get excited about
I really want JB on my SIII, but I also want to root it so I can fully unleash it's potential. However, I'm unsure if I should wait a couple of days for Kies to show me that there's an update for my phone.
Will it be worth the wait or shall I root now and flash the Poland official? All recommendations are welcome and I'm sorry if I shouldn't have started a whole new thread about it.
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Unless you know something we don't there is no guarantee you will get an update in a "couple of days".
So flash the Polish ROM and stop watching for updates.
BlurrOVO said:
I'm a pretty impatient person when it comes to something I get excited about
I really want JB on my SIII, but I also want to root it so I can fully unleash it's potential. However, I'm unsure if I should wait a couple of days for Kies to show me that there's an update for my phone.
Will it be worth the wait or shall I root now and flash the Poland official? All recommendations are welcome and I'm sorry if I shouldn't have started a whole new thread about it.
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A day after I got my phone I already rooted it. I would recommend that you root for the apps (titanium backup). Not to mention that you can try out official jb right away. Custom roms also does optimisations to official jb making it even smoother and battery saving.
There's no telling when jb is going to come for other regions so just root and install!!
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All:
I have my note II rooted, and its running 4.1.2
I received the OTA today, and I chose not to download it. Just curious on what folks are doing ?
I dont run any custom rom on my Note II, I just use it for rooting purposes....
if I do want to upgrade to 4.3 what is the suggested path of action ?
I thought I could use wugfresh I guess not though ?
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ch3ss said:
All:
I have my note II rooted, and its running 4.1.2
I received the OTA today, and I chose not to download it. Just curious on what folks are doing ?
I dont run any custom rom on my Note II, I just use it for rooting purposes....
if I do want to upgrade to 4.3 what is the suggested path of action ?
I thought I could use wugfresh I guess not though ?
Thanks
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Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
computerslayer said:
Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
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Wife gave me my Christmas present yesterday...(a Note 2 she bought used...lovely phone). It started an update when I fired it up, (has been so long since I rooted my Bionic, I completely forgot about OTA's) It now has 4.3, and the only sort of tethering I can mange with it is usb pdanet, which merely qualifies as 'better than nothing', as it often drops out. Might have to put the damn thing in a drawer and fire up the Bionic until the tech gods here work it out. Am downloading a zip from another thread mentioned by Tfly12 that purports to get around the entitlement check...will see
Mejud said:
Wife gave me my Christmas present yesterday...(a Note 2 she bought used...lovely phone). It started an update when I fired it up, (has been so long since I rooted my Bionic, I completely forgot about OTA's) It now has 4.3, and the only sort of tethering I can mange with it is usb pdanet, which merely qualifies as 'better than nothing', as it often drops out. Might have to put the damn thing in a drawer and fire up the Bionic until the tech gods here work it out. Am downloading a zip from another thread mentioned by Tfly12 that purports to get around the entitlement check...will see
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Can't flash that zip though can ya? Trust me. Loosing tethering is the biggest thing that ticks me off about 4.3.
Hate having to have an nonroot phone for work.
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Can't flash that zip though can ya? Trust me. Loosing tethering is the biggest thing that ticks me off about 4.3.
Hate having to have an nonroot phone for work.
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not sure yet, my last experience with this was the Bionic....and after I got it doing what I wanted it to do.....never bothered with it again. Now I'm trying to learn everything Samsung, (precious little of Motorola knowledge seems to apply here....I always thought Odin was a Viking god...) so I don't end up in one of those frantic "HELPME! MY PHONEWON'TEVENTURNONANYMOREIHATEYUPEOPLE" posts....
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Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
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Seems like I should wait then... It tried to download and install last night but it failed, so it just rebooted and i am good... probably because i have recovery on... not sure....
I prefer to honestly just go back to stock, and then maybe goto 4.3 once there is a good root out there....
Mejud said:
not sure yet, my last experience with this was the Bionic....and after I got it doing what I wanted it to do.....never bothered with it again. Now I'm trying to learn everything Samsung, (precious little of Motorola knowledge seems to apply here....I always thought Odin was a Viking god...) so I don't end up in one of those frantic "HELPME! MY PHONEWON'TEVENTURNONANYMOREIHATEYUPEOPLE" posts....
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I made the same move after my speaker started going on my BIONIC, fortunately for me I made the move to the N2 a few months ago. If you are lucky and someone is able to get the bootloader unlocked on 4.3, you should find this device much easier to work with then using Safestrap and all that other jazz. Odin is sort of like using HOB except I have only had to use it twice and not constantly. Once to unlock the bootloader initially and just recently to update the modem and wifi parameters when I made the move to 4.3
Hopefully someone can help you get set up to use the N2 the way you need it.