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I have my note II rooted, and its running 4.1.2
I received the OTA today, and I chose not to download it. Just curious on what folks are doing ?
I dont run any custom rom on my Note II, I just use it for rooting purposes....
if I do want to upgrade to 4.3 what is the suggested path of action ?
I thought I could use wugfresh I guess not though ?
Thanks
ch3ss said:
All:
I have my note II rooted, and its running 4.1.2
I received the OTA today, and I chose not to download it. Just curious on what folks are doing ?
I dont run any custom rom on my Note II, I just use it for rooting purposes....
if I do want to upgrade to 4.3 what is the suggested path of action ?
I thought I could use wugfresh I guess not though ?
Thanks
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Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
computerslayer said:
Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
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Wife gave me my Christmas present yesterday...(a Note 2 she bought used...lovely phone). It started an update when I fired it up, (has been so long since I rooted my Bionic, I completely forgot about OTA's) It now has 4.3, and the only sort of tethering I can mange with it is usb pdanet, which merely qualifies as 'better than nothing', as it often drops out. Might have to put the damn thing in a drawer and fire up the Bionic until the tech gods here work it out. Am downloading a zip from another thread mentioned by Tfly12 that purports to get around the entitlement check...will see
Mejud said:
Wife gave me my Christmas present yesterday...(a Note 2 she bought used...lovely phone). It started an update when I fired it up, (has been so long since I rooted my Bionic, I completely forgot about OTA's) It now has 4.3, and the only sort of tethering I can mange with it is usb pdanet, which merely qualifies as 'better than nothing', as it often drops out. Might have to put the damn thing in a drawer and fire up the Bionic until the tech gods here work it out. Am downloading a zip from another thread mentioned by Tfly12 that purports to get around the entitlement check...will see
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Can't flash that zip though can ya? Trust me. Loosing tethering is the biggest thing that ticks me off about 4.3.
Hate having to have an nonroot phone for work.
Nefariouss said:
Can't flash that zip though can ya? Trust me. Loosing tethering is the biggest thing that ticks me off about 4.3.
Hate having to have an nonroot phone for work.
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not sure yet, my last experience with this was the Bionic....and after I got it doing what I wanted it to do.....never bothered with it again. Now I'm trying to learn everything Samsung, (precious little of Motorola knowledge seems to apply here....I always thought Odin was a Viking god...) so I don't end up in one of those frantic "HELPME! MY PHONEWON'TEVENTURNONANYMOREIHATEYUPEOPLE" posts....
computerslayer said:
Once you upgrade to 4.3 OTA, your bootloader is locked and root is gone, along with the generally unwelcome addition of Samsung's KNOX technology. No bootloader exploit currently exists. If you upgrade by flashing one of the ROM's here on XDA or the non-OTA update to 4.3 (check the Android Development forum), you get the latest software and keep an unlocked bootloader & root.
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Seems like I should wait then... It tried to download and install last night but it failed, so it just rebooted and i am good... probably because i have recovery on... not sure....
I prefer to honestly just go back to stock, and then maybe goto 4.3 once there is a good root out there....
Mejud said:
not sure yet, my last experience with this was the Bionic....and after I got it doing what I wanted it to do.....never bothered with it again. Now I'm trying to learn everything Samsung, (precious little of Motorola knowledge seems to apply here....I always thought Odin was a Viking god...) so I don't end up in one of those frantic "HELPME! MY PHONEWON'TEVENTURNONANYMOREIHATEYUPEOPLE" posts....
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I made the same move after my speaker started going on my BIONIC, fortunately for me I made the move to the N2 a few months ago. If you are lucky and someone is able to get the bootloader unlocked on 4.3, you should find this device much easier to work with then using Safestrap and all that other jazz. Odin is sort of like using HOB except I have only had to use it twice and not constantly. Once to unlock the bootloader initially and just recently to update the modem and wifi parameters when I made the move to 4.3
Hopefully someone can help you get set up to use the N2 the way you need it.
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I have a rooted Nook tablet so not a complete noob, but how safe is the root process for a verizon Galaxy s4? I'd like to root it so I can get rid of some of the junk apps and install others I want, but I void my two yr warranty...thoughts from the experts? just want to feel comfortable moving forward and if so, is there a set of clear instructions somewhere?
Thanks to all
The search button is your friend.
I have also rooted verizon schi545 cm10'd I did not see aps to sd so now I went back to stock mdk 4.2.2 so now what take update or is there another rom that has aps to sd ?
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wedmiston said:
I have a rooted Nook tablet so not a complete noob, but how safe is the root process for a verizon Galaxy s4? I'd like to root it so I can get rid of some of the junk apps and install others I want, but I void my two yr warranty...thoughts from the experts? just want to feel comfortable moving forward and if so, is there a set of clear instructions somewhere?
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Instead of an asinine comment that does you no go, here's some info.
Yes, rooting will void the warranty. However, you can always Odin to go back to stock should you have an issue that requires returning your phone to VZW.
I've rooted both my old S3 and my current S4. I JUST started rooting on the S3, so I'm relatively new as well but have learned a lot. My S3 was stock rooted, but I took the plunge with my S4 and am running HyperDrive ROM which is HOLY MOLY sweetness.
It's up to you, but if you're going to root, perhaps look at the ROMs that are available and flash one. I'm not sorry that I started flashing Roms. Not one bit
Wolffgirl
Three replies thus far and yours is the only one of solid benefit..thanks. Can you point me anywhere to see step by step to accomplish what you did on your S4?
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Wolffgirl
Three replies thus far and yours is the only one of solid benefit..thanks. Can you point me anywhere to see step by step to accomplish what you did on your S4?
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Here is the link to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
How old is your S4? The reason that I ask is that there was an OTA update the broke root. Currently there are Dev's looking into how to root with the new firmware.
Have you installed the OTA update?
Phone is about a month old...I have made no changes to the existing phone so I don.t know about the OTA update (although the VW software that came with it appears to update the phones software when plugged into laptop)
wedmiston said:
Phone is about a month old...I have made no changes to the existing phone so I don.t know about the OTA update (although the VW software that came with it appears to update the phones software when plugged into laptop)
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Go to ->Setting->More->About Phone and tell me what you Baseband version says. If it's VRUAME7, you have the OTA update. If it's VRUAMDK, you do not.
confirming VRUAME7
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Go to ->Setting->More->About Phone and tell me what you Baseband version says. If it's VRUAME7, you have the OTA update. If it's VRUAMDK, you do not.
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wedmiston said:
confirming VRUAME7
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Unfortunately you will not be able to root until a new method becomes available.
is it possible to back up to pre-OTA update status?
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Unfortunately you will not be able to root until a new method becomes available.
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wedmiston said:
is it possible to back up to pre-OTA update status?
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No.....there is no way to uninstall the update. Patience, young rooting grasshopper! A new method will be out shortly, I would imagine. Doesn't usually take too long,
Much appreciated...and lastly can you point me to how I would reinstall what you refer to as Odin should I screw up a future root process?
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Much appreciated...and lastly can you point me to how I would reinstall what you refer to as Odin should I screw up a future root process?
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This link explains how to go back to stock by using Odin: http://www.sxtpdevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=237
So I had plugged my device in to my computer, and it updated to 4.3. I did a factory reset, but it is too late. Does this mean my bootloader is now locked without a way to unlock at the moment? I came across ★ [Rom][I605VRUEMJ9][4.3] Stock Root Odex/Deodex [12/08/13]★ - xda-developers but it appears that I need an unlocked bootloader in order to flash it. Any advice on what I can do? I tried the instructions at Root I605VRUEMJ9 - Verizon Galaxy Note 2 SCH-I605 Android 4.3 Jelly Bean Firmware | True Android | #1 Custom Android Resource but got a failed (and am now worried that the KNOX counte ris stuck at 0x1.
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So I had plugged my device in to my computer, and it updated to 4.3. I did a factory reset, but it is too late. Does this mean my bootloader is now locked without a way to unlock at the moment? I came across ★ [Rom][I605VRUEMJ9][4.3] Stock Root Odex/Deodex [12/08/13]★ - xda-developers but it appears that I need an unlocked bootloader in order to flash it. Any advice on what I can do? I tried the instructions at Root I605VRUEMJ9 - Verizon Galaxy Note 2 SCH-I605 Android 4.3 Jelly Bean Firmware | True Android | #1 Custom Android Resource but got a failed (and am now worried that the KNOX counte ris stuck at 0x1.
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For the moment, yes. Attempting to return to a previous stock ROM, even via ODIN, will fail - I tried this myself last night. ODIN hangs on trying to install the last part of the ROM (the bootloader, if I remember right). If you do try to use ODIN to restore a stock ROM, you will need to run a repair install of the 4.3 ROM (you'll lose all data on the phone). Fun stuff.
So in short, we're locked & unrooted if we update using the official update via Verizon's update software.
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For the moment, yes. Attempting to return to a previous stock ROM, even via ODIN, will fail - I tried this myself last night. ODIN hangs on trying to install the last part of the ROM (the bootloader, if I remember right). If you do try to use ODIN to restore a stock ROM, you will need to run a repair install of the 4.3 ROM (you'll lose all data on the phone). Fun stuff.
So in short, we're locked & unrooted if we update using the official update via Verizon's update software.
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Damn. So I am completely willing to wipe everything. I already have everything backed up. If I am willing to have everything wiped, is there a way around it, or just wait for the good folks here at xda to stick it to Verizon
pendraggon87 said:
Damn. So I am completely willing to wipe everything. I already have everything backed up. If I am willing to have everything wiped, is there a way around it, or just wait for the good folks here at xda to stick it to Verizon
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You can try to root with kingo (google it, xda won't allow links to it) but you may be out of luck on unlocking the bootloader again unless someone finds another exploit.
akellar said:
You can try to root with kingo (google it, xda won't allow links to it) but you may be out of luck on unlocking the bootloader again unless someone finds another exploit.
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I saw references to kingo, but it looked sketchy. Can you tell more about it, and perhaps why XDA doesn't allow links?
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I saw references to kingo, but it looked sketchy. Can you tell more about it, and perhaps why XDA doesn't allow links?
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Nothing I can tell you that you can't find searching for it. Plenty of conversations about it already. No need for another one really.
akellar said:
Nothing I can tell you that you can't find searching for it. Plenty of conversations about it already. No need for another one really.
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Thanks - I did find a lot threads. It does look sketchy, though nothing definitive.
Unless someone has found a root method for one of the other Samsung 4.3 builds, you better go out to your nearest wholesale store and buy the jumbo size of Vaseline.
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Unless someone has found a root method for one of the other Samsung 4.3 builds, you better go out to your nearest wholesale store and buy the jumbo size of Vaseline.
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Kingo works on Note 3. Obviously different device but in theory it should work.
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You can try to root with kingo (google it, xda won't allow links to it) but you may be out of luck on unlocking the bootloader again unless someone finds another exploit.
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I did an OTA of 4.3 on my Note 2 already and was able to root using Kingo, no problems.
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I did an OTA of 4.3 on my Note 2 already and was able to root using Kingo, no problems.
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Ditto here. Though trying to flash a recovery (say, through Goo Manager) trips the Knox counter....and fails to boot ('unauthorized software' message)
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Ditto here. Though trying to flash a recovery (say, through Goo Manager) trips the Knox counter....and fails to boot ('unauthorized software' message)
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Yup. Bootloader is locked. That's why there's a sticky saying not to take OTA's.
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Yup. Bootloader is locked. That's why there's a sticky saying not to take OTA's.
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Sometimes one's role in life is to serve as a warning to others. Guess its my turn.
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Unless someone has found a root method for one of the other Samsung 4.3 builds, you better go out to your nearest wholesale store and buy the jumbo size of Vaseline.
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Aren't both the S4 and N3 4.3 builds rooted? Maybe you're thinking bootloader unlocking???
After OTA my n2 lost root.
I can also confirm, that Kingo roots the N2 after taking the Verizon OTA, but the bootloader remains locked. For me acquiring root again was great, because I use the Xposed framework a lot and many other apps that need root. As for the bootloader, I'm sure that sooner or later, one of the great devs will kick butt and get it unlocked. For those guys that challenge is like an itch.
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rdeluis said:
After OTA my n2 lost root.
I can also confirm, that Kingo roots the N2 after taking the Verizon OTA, but the bootloader remains locked. For me acquiring root again was great, because I use the Xposed framework a lot and many other apps that need root. As for the bootloader, I'm sure that sooner or later, one of the great devs will kick butt and get it unlocked. For those guys that challenge is like an itch.
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Wouldn't bet on it. S4 and Note 3 are both locked and will likely remain that way. Never say never but the likelihood is slim.
You're right and honestly as long as I have, root I don't care much anymore. If it happens great, if it doesn't ok. Sooner or later we will upgrade to a new toy. Lol
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So I used to have my phone unlocked. I figured the stock 4.3 OTA would be a good idea so I flashed it back to stock via Odin because I am prepared to get a new phone. So with that said...
If you have 4.3 Stock, is the only thing you can do now to just sit miserably with a crappy phone that:
1) Has to remain on 4.3 TouchWiz Roms via a beta safestrap program that appears the developer has stopped developing for
2) Can accept the 4.4 OTA (when it comes) update but then lose root indefinitely so no more free tether etc
Because I really miss being able to do what I wanted with my device I paid hundreds of dollars for....
I swear there's got to be some kind of way to sue to get access to my device I own....
Pretty much. There are Roms to flash but not many it seems. TouchWiz really sucks. Locked bootloader sucks. Kind of really regretting the upgrade to the Note 2 to be honest. Should have done research before buying the phone and updating to 4.3 JB.
At the moment though I'm running SRemix v4 and it's pretty cool. Basically all stock with Wifi Tether hack built in. Good stuff.
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i dont get your complaint. you said you were getting a new phone. you clearly do not like TW. so since you are buying a new phone anyways, buy one that you like. IMO the note 2 is the best phone ive ever owned. its your own fault that you unrooted and took OTA. I was warning people before 4.3 was even released that they should root and unlock then if they wanted to. we knew with the release of the S4 that rooting and unlocking bootloader was going to be unlikely moving fwd
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not to mention there was a rooted 4.3 TW rom before you took the OTA
Thanks for your quality response
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I have no problem with touch wiz.
As much as I like custom ROMs I could live with a locked bootloader as long as I had root.
I like busybox for Unix commands and I like xposed mods for theming and such. So I would have to have root but could live with a locked bootloader.
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I have no problem with touch wiz.
As much as I like custom ROMs I could live with a locked bootloader as long as I had root.
I like busybox for Unix commands and I like xposed mods for theming and such. So I would have to have root but could live with a locked bootloader.
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Yeah I've no use for the unlocked bootloader per say, but I want 4.4.X and root, which apparently anything post 4.3 locked bootloader, will have a jacked up no-root system because they will need a 3 part root (Rom, Recovery and Kernel). Just ruins the 4.4.X update that will be stock locked bootloader. Might as well throw this thing away hah.
I need root. I can't live without that.
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So I used to have my phone unlocked. I figured the stock 4.3 OTA would be a good idea so I flashed it back to stock via Odin because I am prepared to get a new phone. So with that said...
If you have 4.3 Stock, is the only thing you can do now to just sit miserably with a crappy phone that:
1) Has to remain on 4.3 TouchWiz Roms via a beta safestrap program that appears the developer has stopped developing for
2) Can accept the 4.4 OTA (when it comes) update but then lose root indefinitely so no more free tether etc
Because I really miss being able to do what I wanted with my device I paid hundreds of dollars for....
I swear there's got to be some kind of way to sue to get access to my device I own....
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I guess you didn't see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107738
Never accept OTA's without research if you value being unlocked and with root.
As this thread is spiraling downhill quickly with some name calling which I removed
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I currently own a Galaxy S Nexus and a Galaxy S3. Added another Family member. WERE SO PROUD!!! lol
Anywho I need some help. I am looking for a flashing guide so I do not do anything wrong and brick our new little buddy,
It is on 4.4.2 I545
I found this link for some firmware --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56006060&postcount=29345 (LOOKS PROMISING)
I just need to know which version of Odin, how to root it, and which kernel and Custom recovery to use.
I do not want to use goomanager if can help it. I'd rather use my laptop.
Unfortunately since your phone has been updated you cannot completely unlock the bootloader. You will need to use Safestrap to load a recovery/ROM. More info can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
I would suggest rooting your phone using Towelroot:
https://towelroot.com/
Install SuperSU from the Play Store afterwards to complete the root access.
I can't give you much info about SafeStrap as I have never used it (I am on an unlocked bootloader).
To fully unlock the bootloader, you're going to need an S4 on the MDK firmware. I'd suggest heading over to Swappa, selling yours and picking up an unlocked S4. This is something I've done with every replacement Verizon has sent me...
So it's safe to assume that you can't just flash back to the mdk version via Odin or something then huh?
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So it's safe to assume that you can't just flash back to the mdk version via Odin or something then huh?
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You cannot
Yeah, sorry to say that development on this is kinda slim. The only phone that I actually hate, also my next phone is going to be the first phone I pay full retail for (nexus 6) because the s4 is so locked down.
travisjshepherd said:
Yeah, sorry to say that development on this is kinda slim. The only phone that I actually hate, also my next phone is going to be the first phone I pay full retail for (nexus 6) because the s4 is so locked down.
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If you pick up one with an unlocked bootloader your opinion may change. I have had quite a few phone that I have unlocked and the S4 is by far my favorite.
This is a great tread but it should be moved in the Help section.
Agreed, this isn't a development thread.
But I can vouch for the S4 mdk bootloader being great. You can use a lot of stuff from I9505 and JFLTE unified threads on this phone. I have MDK and currently running unofficial CM 12 (android 5.0) with Alucard kernel. All this is from i9505 threads.
However, life is much more simple and stable with a Nexus device, I have Nexus 7 and much less bugs and rooting is so easy.
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If you pick up one with an unlocked bootloader your opinion may change. I have had quite a few phone that I have unlocked and the S4 is by far my favorite.
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This is a great tread but it should be moved in the Help section.
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I rooted my I605 three years ago (through CASUAL, if memory serves, and that's the last time I've played with rooting and related topics) and I'd like to upgrade to the highest OS possible (that's 4.4.2, right?) but still keep root. I have TWRP installed. My Note II is nagging me to upgrade with an OTA (not sure what it is specifically) but I keep deferring it. What steps do I need to take to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root (stock ROM), and is that even possible? If someone can point me in the right direction thread-wise that would be greatly appreciated (there's a lot of info on this site but I'm having a hard time trying to find one specific to my situation.)
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I rooted my I605 three years ago (through CASUAL, if memory serves, and that's the last time I've played with rooting and related topics) and I'd like to upgrade to the highest OS possible (that's 4.4.2, right?) but still keep root. I have TWRP installed. My Note II is nagging me to upgrade with an OTA (not sure what it is specifically) but I keep deferring it. What steps do I need to take to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root (stock ROM), and is that even possible? If someone can point me in the right direction thread-wise that would be greatly appreciated (there's a lot of info on this site but I'm having a hard time trying to find one specific to my situation.)
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The best option to use is Beanstown rom for the 4.4.2, once you take the OTA to upgrade to 4.4.2 you can still root but you will not have an unlocked bootloader. Beanstown has pulled files/firmware and radio to have the most recent upgrades but still leaves the 4.1.2 bootloader on your device to be fully unlocked.
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The best option to use is Beanstown rom for the 4.4.2, once you take the OTA to upgrade to 4.4.2 you can still root but you will not have an unlocked bootloader. Beanstown has pulled files/firmware and radio to have the most recent upgrades but still leaves the 4.1.2 bootloader on your device to be fully unlocked.
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Thanks. I hate to ask this stoooopid question, but I can't seem to find it. Can you tell me which thread it's in (I DID search)....
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Thanks. I hate to ask this stoooopid question, but I can't seem to find it. Can you tell me which thread it's in (I DID search)....
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All these are under Android Development Section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/mj9-radio-t3285280
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-alliancerom-build-27-t2896823
Stock Build to start Fresh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
Then Root/Upgrade as needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348
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All these are under Android Development Section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/mj9-radio-t3285280
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-alliancerom-build-27-t2896823
Stock Build to start Fresh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
Then Root/Upgrade as needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348
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Thanks again! (My mistake was that I was doing a search for "Beanstown"... I do recall coming across a couple of those pages earlier today but had dismissed them as your answer.)
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Thanks again! (My mistake was that I was doing a search for "Beanstown"... I do recall coming across a couple of those pages earlier today but had dismissed them as your answer.)
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Yea i thought he did the 4.4.2 update but it was the other guy , they both did a lot of good work! Glad I was able to help