1) whats the difference between kernel, system, and recovery?
2) are all three of the above able to be backed up without root?
3) are all three of the above able to be restored?
4) are the any roots out that do not increase the flash counter?
5) does flashing a stock rom using odin increase the flash counter?
6) is rooting reversible?
7) is rooting undone when you flash kernel? system? recovery?
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I'm trying to get back to completely stock before return the Note. These are the steps I found in another thread. I was coming from the UCLF leak but the baseband is still showing UCLF.
1) Flash stock odin through Odin
2) Flash CWM Recovery through Odin
3) Flash AT&T Reset Flash Counter Zip through CWM Recovery
4) root without tripping the flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1518962
5) unroot without tripping the flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=133
After doing this, I thought everything looks stock until I noticed that the baseband was still on UCLF5. Did I flash the wrong stock odin?
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I'm trying to get back to completely stock before return the Note. These are the steps I found in another thread. I was coming from the UCLF leak but the baseband is still showing UCLF.
1) Flash stock odin through Odin
2) Flash CWM Recovery through Odin
3) Flash AT&T Reset Flash Counter Zip through CWM Recovery
4) root without tripping the flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1518962
5) unroot without tripping the flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=133
After doing this, I thought everything looks stock until I noticed that the baseband was still on UCLF5. Did I flash the wrong stock odin?
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Root the device again then cwm then flash the la3 radio(stock) then unroot
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I'm planning to flash Siyah kernel on my stock firmware (Samsung 4.0.3). In the Siyah thread it says it includes a CWM image. I inspected the Siyah flashable zip and I only found a zImage file. Is the recovery included inside it?
Please confirm that I can return to stock using the method below, im still a noob
* To restore counter I can use TriangleAway app.
* Should I wipe anything before returning from Siyah to stock?
* Then i flash stock firmware through Odin and the counter wont increase since its Samsung firmware right? Does flashing the official firnware also give me the stock recovery?
Is this all that I need to know ?
Should I worry about backing up EFS before flashing the Siyah kernel or perhaps before returning to stock?
Thank you very much! All answers appreciated!
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colapro said:
I'm planning to flash Siyah kernel on my stock firmware (Samsung 4.0.3). In the Siyah thread it says it includes a CWM image. I inspected the Siyah flashable zip and I only found a zImage file. Is the recovery included inside it?
Please confirm that I can return to stock using the method below, im still a noob
* To restore counter I can use TriangleAway app.
* Should I wipe anything before returning from Siyah to stock?
* Then i flash stock firmware through Odin and the counter wont increase since its Samsung firmware right? Does flashing the official firnware also give me the stock recovery?
Is this all that I need to know ?
Should I worry about backing up EFS before flashing the Siyah kernel or perhaps before returning to stock?
Thank you very much! All answers appreciated!
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If are on stock ROM now, you will have to flash SiyahKernel as tar file with Odin.
And yes, CWM recovery is included in the kernel (zImage).
Before flashing, you should backup everything important. Just to be on the safe side.
Some EFS backup tools require root. If you find one which works without root, then you should backup before flashing.
Otherwise make the EFS backup (and a nandroid/system backup in CWM recovery) after flashing SiyahKernel.
Then use TriangleAway app to remove yellow triangle and rest the flash counter.
When flashing stock kernel after SiyahKernel, you don't need to wipe anything.
You can wipe data, if you want to do a factory reset, or you can do the factory reset later (on stock) too.
And yes, after flashing stock kernel, you will be back on stock recovery.
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If are on stock ROM now, you will have to flash SiyahKernel as tar file with Odin.
And yes, CWM recovery is included in the kernel (zImage).
Before flashing, you should backup everything important. Just to be on the safe side.
Some EFS backup tools require root. If you find one which works without root, then you should backup before flashing.
Otherwise make the EFS backup (and a nandroid/system backup in CWM recovery) after flashing SiyahKernel.
Then use TriangleAway app to remove yellow triangle and rest the flash counter.
When flashing stock kernel after SiyahKernel, you don't need to wipe anything.
You can wipe data, if you want to do a factory reset, or you can do the factory reset later (on stock) too.
And yes, after flashing stock kernel, you will be back on stock recovery.
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Thank you very much for making it clear!
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Dear people, I have a question in regards to obtaining CWM recovery after using the root method located here, specifically method one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
I used the stock recovery to flash "Root_SuperSU.0.95-Busybox.1.20.2-S2-signed.zip" and everything seems to be working well. However, I want to flash a custom ROM like MIUI rom and I believe that I need CWM recovery. I tried flashing the recovery via the app "ROM manager". It says it downloaded successfully but I can't seem to boot into it so I uninstalled the app. Now I am turning to you guys for help.
So, to get permanent CWM recovery, must I really flash a kernel with CWM built in?
Thank you for reading, and I do hope you guys could assist me in this matter.
So you've successful attained root access. You cannot replace the stock recovery permanently without flashing a kernel with CWM.
However, you can temporarily replace it by flashing this file through the stock recovery :
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-galaxys2.zip
When you've temporarily replace the recovery make sure you've downloaded the rom you want I believe to the external memory (I actually put it on both Internal and External) and flash it through CWM.
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So you've successful attained root access. You cannot replace the stock recovery permanently without flashing a kernel with CWM.
However, you can temporarily replace it by flashing this file through the stock recovery :
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When you've temporarily replace the recovery make sure you've downloaded the rom you want I believe to the external memory (I actually put it on both Internal and External) and flash it through CWM.
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Thank you for your reply.
So from your post, I have learnt that I could flash a ROM with just the temporary recovery. However, I have a few side questions.
Is wiping data and the cache partition safe with the temporary version?
Suppose something goes wrong during the flashing procedure, and I can't boot into the phone. How do I restore the phone back to its original state? I know of the Nandroid backup function, but does it create a file to the external SD or what? Am I supposed to keep the stock recovery or will the ROM replace it with CWM?
Yes, you need kernel with built-in CWM to have it permanent, but for flashing custom ROM you can do it via temporary too. It have same functionality. I recommend using latest 6.x version from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840223
Wiping is safe if you have 4.0.3 ROM or 4.0.4 with custom kernel with MMC_CAP_ERASE command disabled.
Hi, I have yet another question, this time regarding Cyanogenmod. I would like to flash Cyanogen through the CWM provided here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840223
And I was just wondering. Do I need any custom kernels for Cyanogen? Since I rooted with the method I mentioned in my original post, I would be using the stock kernel.
Oh, and another one. Suppose I could flash with the stock kernel, what should I choose under CWM before flashing? "Wipe data/factory reset", "wipe cache partition" and also "format /cache" under mounts and storage?
CM will overwrite all it has own kernel
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You might also want to go into advanced and wipe dalvik a few times too.
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I've been curious on how the triangle and the flash counter works. So, please consider the following scenarios and answer accordingly:
Flash a...
1. a fully stock ROM via...
a. Odin
b. Mobile Odin.
c. CWM (going from a custom ROM).
2. a modified Samsung ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704185 which include very minimal stuff via...
a. CWM
b. Mobile Odin (is it even possible considering that it is a zip file?)
3. an AOSP ROM via any method.
And finally
4. If you had a triangle and then flashed a stock ROM does it disappear?
Thank you guys and I would be very grateful if you answer these questions.
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if you're flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
Mopral said:
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if your flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
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Thank you very much. I was under the illusion that it had a triangle like SGS2.
yes the s2 has the triangle
the s3 doesnt
but if u want to reset the costume binary counter u can use the triangle away app
Sorry for the noob question, but i really need some assurance before i proceed
My goal is to install CM10 for S2.
So in order to do that i need to:
1. Download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.5.0.4 and flash the kernal via odin
2. Download SuperOneClick to Root my S2
3. Proceed with CM10 flash -> then Factory reset.
So that's about it right? backup has been done. anything else i need? What about modem?
So pointer would be great. I'm kinda rusty, left the android scene for years.
PS - My S2 is stock, no mods.
Forged said:
Sorry for the noob question, but i really need some assurance before i proceed
My goal is to install CM10 for S2.
So in order to do that i need to:
1. Download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.5.0.4 and flash the kernal via odin
2. Download SuperOneClick to Root my S2
3. Proceed with CM10 flash -> then Factory reset.
So that's about it right? backup has been done. anything else i need? What about modem?
So pointer would be great. I'm kinda rusty, left the android scene for years.
PS - My S2 is stock, no mods.
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Quite right.
You need CWM recovery to flash CM10.
The easiest way to get it IMO is to flash a rooted kernel which contains CWM recovery.
You can use SiyahKernel or PhilZ-cwm6 kernel ... it's your choice and depends on your current ROM version.
After flashing the kernel, your phone will be rooted and you will have CWM recovery.
You should create a nandroid backup in CWM recovery - just to have a complete system backup of your current ROM.
Then you can flash the CM10 in CWM recovery - stick to the installation instructions of the ROM. You may have to wipe data/do a factory reset.
Good luck !
So if i were to use PhilZ-cwm6, i dont have to use superoneclickroot? Correct?
- so no need for odin right?
About choosing PhilZ kernel, mine is XWLP7, so, i would download XWLPZ kernel? Correct?
im nearly getting it LOL.
You don't need superoneclickroot when using PhilZ-cwm6, it's already rooted.
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877270 and search for XWLP7 and download that kernel (I'm not sure XWLPZ is close enough in version, but as there is a XWLP7 kernel there, I would use that.)
superoneclick is obselete. If you have CWM then theres no need for Odin. You get CWM with almost all rooted Kernels. If you aren't currently rooted however, you wont have CWM. Imo, the best way to go from no root > root is to flash a rooted Kernel via Odin, and yes your kernel version should correspond to your ROM version.