Hi,
Not sure if this has been discussed before.. but with my tablet I am constantly running into the need for switching between apps quickly. While this is done easily enough, it would be nice to have more than one application open on the screen at a time. While browsing the web for something that fulfills this, I stumbled upon this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedNfbKVMSM
This is exactly what I need! While this is not an app, this is something that I would love to have. Does anyone have any similar applications they use? Or any work around? I heard that CM9 might have Cornerstone included.. that would be very nice.
Thanks!
That is a very interesting concept. Would be great to enhance productivity. Bout to check out their site.
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EDIT: some info...
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
EDIT2: Downloaded the zip from github. Looks like a flashable zip, but I'm not taking any chances. No sense in bricking! Maybe someone more educated on this stuff can chime in.
This is something a developer must work into their rom. Just hope that in the future a Rom has one baked into it (that is if you unlock/flash cwm and such).
Please do not request it in the dev section though
I know there was some discussion last week about this and the possiblity of it being incorporated into CM9, but I'm not sure where it ended up.
I know there was a discussion from one of the Google engineers urging people not to do it with ICS (as cornerstone is open source now).
Might want to do a google search to see what comes up.
Dnakaman said:
I know there was some discussion last week about this and the possiblity of it being incorporated into CM9, but I'm not sure where it ended up.
I know there was a discussion from one of the Google engineers urging people not to do it with ICS (as cornerstone is open source now).
Might want to do a google search to see what comes up.
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I will search for this but if you can find direct links that would be awesome (my googling skills are not that great and you know what your looking for)
why would they say not to do this?
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500353&highlight=cornerstone
Nysona said:
Hi,
Not sure if this has been discussed before.. but with my tablet I am constantly running into the need for switching between apps quickly. While this is done easily enough, it would be nice to have more than one application open on the screen at a time. While browsing the web for something that fulfills this, I stumbled upon this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedNfbKVMSM
This is exactly what I need! While this is not an app, this is something that I would love to have. Does anyone have any similar applications they use? Or any work around? I heard that CM9 might have Cornerstone included.. that would be very nice.
Thanks!
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Their is a thread on the tf 101general interested in porting this over... I've played with this on my tf101and its awesome
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23080116
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this would be amazing, I cant wait to see what the devs come up with now that we can unlock this baby.
As we have the bootloader unlock tool, sooner or or later there will be a rom with something like this integrated Cant wait!!
Google should be doing something like that on their own, this is genius. Also its perfect on a 1280x800 screen. More than enough room for multiple windows if you arrange it like cornerstone does.
Not sure it will arrive soon. I saw posts on Google+: this product is quite limited, you can only have the three windows, and can't do another way. Intregration in CM9 had begun but it seems quite hard to achieve, very hard programming stuff...
It may have only 3 windows, but I would settle for just 2 windows.. Just to have the ability to have more than 1 app open at a time.
The post from Cyanogen I read on G+ basically said they're not going to implement this. It takes major changes in source code and frameworks, and was really intended to be a commercial feature that OEMs might add into their roms. Doubt we'll ever see this in a CM build.
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Edit: Aforementioned post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106527379151691513977/posts/3hkAaD6eah4
adalgiso said:
The post from Cyanogen I read on G+ basically said they're not going to implement this. It takes major changes in source code and frameworks, and was really intended to be a commercial feature that OEMs might add into their roms. Doubt we'll ever see this in a CM build.
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Edit: Aforementioned post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106527379151691513977/posts/3hkAaD6eah4
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Well that is a bummer. Could have really used something to open multiple windows...
Personally I would much rather see a true multi-windowed environment such as the one by wind River (http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/7/2688901/android-multi-windowing-wind-river-software-modules) or Ixonos (http://hothardware.com/News/Ixonos-Creates-MultiWindow-Solution-For-Android/)
These are true windowed environments, and make much more sense to me on a larger (tablet) screen.
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I'm curious, what with the apparently fantastic multi-tasking abilities of OnSkreen Cornerstone (if you won't know what it is, Google it and be amazed) being free and open-source, are there any devs who are building ROMs with Cornerstone built in? I've heard rumors that CM9 will include it, but that was a while ago, and I have yet to see it confirmed.
Wow
ZebTheCalvinist said:
I'm curious, what with the apparently fantastic multi-tasking abilities of OnSkreen Cornerstone (if you won't know what it is, Google it and be amazed) being free and open-source, are there any devs who are building ROMs with Cornerstone built in? I've heard rumors that CM9 will include it, but that was a while ago, and I have yet to see it confirmed.
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Cornerstone is news to me. In my opinion this addresses the weakest link of android systems. The inability to toggle between applications is the main thing holding android back from being close to perfect.
Quote from their website "Enables users to view and interact with multiple applications at once. Tablets with Cornerstone enable true multi-tasking"
I second the request for this in a ROM!!
Developers..please
Edit: apparently Zeb is correct about CM9 however:
Quote "There is also a cornerstone build if you want, but i must warn you it brings many bugs."
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525148
I sure hope that gets worked out!
theryanfoley said:
Cornerstone is news to me. In my opinion this addresses the weakest link of android systems. The inability to toggle between applications is the main thing holding android back from being close to perfect.
Quote from their website "Enables users to view and interact with multiple applications at once. Tablets with Cornerstone enable true multi-tasking"
I second the request for this in a ROM!!
Developers..please
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As it is now, I think that Android is MILES ahead of iOS in terms of multi-tasking, but there is certainly room to improve. I definitely agree that this program would do wonders for Android's usability.
Wow, that looks awesome.
I'll look into pulling it into my cm9 kang ROM
I wouldn't be surprised for something like to be implemented in the next version of Android (Jelly Bean). With Windows 8 around the corner and their "app snapping" ability, I bet Google is going to be looking for a better way to multitask than current ICS. The ability to look at more than one app at the same time and full Google Chrome support will be a long way to making this Prime my go to device. When I need serious work done I cheat and Splashtop my windows PC at home.
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Really interested to flash that ROM onto my Prime. Just that there isn't one specifically made for our TF201. Anyone capable of doing it? Here's a guide posted by them themselves. Just that I'm not skilled in it. :x Thanks in advance to whoever that can help!
JC0406 said:
Really interested to flash that ROM onto my Prime. Just that there isn't one specifically made for our TF201. Anyone capable of doing it? Here's a guide posted by them themselves. Just that I'm not skilled in it. :x Thanks in advance to whoever that can help!
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There wouldn't really be too much point as one of the main features of Parandroid is having tablet mode which.....errr you have as its already a tablet. A lot if work for something you already have.
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There wouldn't really be too much point as one of the main features of Parandroid is having tablet mode which.....errr you have as its already a tablet. A lot if work for something you already have.
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Actually, part of why people like Paranoid Android so much is because of the ability to not only change modes (tablet, phablet, phone), but also set per-application DPI, size, and modes to change how each fragment operates.
Example: Youtube uses two modes (phone/tablet), and I like the phone mode better. But, I can't use it. Even restoring a phone APK of Youtube results in the tablet UI. PA lets you define Youtube and make it act like a phone!
That kind of flexibility is very powerful, and useful until we get powerful, properly built tablet apps with all of the features we desire. A lot of work? Sure. Possibly worth it? Definitely.
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There wouldn't really be too much point as one of the main features of Parandroid is having tablet mode which.....errr you have as its already a tablet. A lot if work for something you already have.
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like what Akkeresu said below, it's not only the ability to change modes(although that's what I want most). And plus, who says I wanted tablet mode since I already have it? -.- I want it to look and feel like a Nexus 7. Which is only possible with this ROM as far as I know.
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Actually, part of why people like Paranoid Android so much is because of the ability to not only change modes (tablet, phablet, phone), but also set per-application DPI, size, and modes to change how each fragment operates.
Example: Youtube uses two modes (phone/tablet), and I like the phone mode better. But, I can't use it. Even restoring a phone APK of Youtube results in the tablet UI. PA lets you define Youtube and make it act like a phone!
That kind of flexibility is very powerful, and useful until we get powerful, properly built tablet apps with all of the features we desire. A lot of work? Sure. Possibly worth it? Definitely.
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Actually no. The developer of PA quoted this, "no, but someone else can. if you have cm10 you can have pa aswell. it would run right away, theres barely any adjustments to make on our side and aosp is the same on any device anyway, no matter if phone or tablet." So yeah, he said it doesn't really need much tweaking from their side. Just hope someone can just help out to make this happen..:good:
Bump for curiosity' sake.
I think having these capabilities would be amazing,
Anyone willing to take this on?
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Bump for curiosity' sake.
I think having these capabilities would be amazing,
Anyone willing to take this on?
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I can do this quite easily as already have done it once for the prime.
The thing is I really don't have the time to keep remaking it constantly and re uploading new nightlies so if you wait a bit longer for some of the bugs to be ironed out I will knock one up but then I will only make a new one once a month or so.
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I can do this quite easily as already have done it once for the prime.
The thing is I really don't have the time to keep remaking it constantly and re uploading new nightlies so if you wait a bit longer for some of the bugs to be ironed out I will knock one up but then I will only make a new one once a month or so.
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<3
I 've been looking for a way to get the Nexus 10 UI on my TF201 for like a week. Ofcourse I ended up nowhere. I can get all but the <back> <home> <app switcher> buttons to get in the middle of the bottom, and the rest of the status bar on the top. So during my search i came across the capabilities of the PA Rom. Sadly, I then discovered that the rom is not available for the TF201. Was ready to post in the Q&A section for "how to get the nexus 10 UI on the tf201" but figured i 'd take a look at this thread, and just saw your comment.
so.. in a nutshell, unless you can point me to the right direction (another direction; a way to get the Nexus 10 UI on the TF201) i 'm bumping the request posed with this thread, and ofcourse thanks for your willingness to develop!:good:
Why not just go one better and port Toasted Marshmallow?
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flumpster said:
I can do this quite easily as already have done it once for the prime.
The thing is I really don't have the time to keep remaking it constantly and re uploading new nightlies so if you wait a bit longer for some of the bugs to be ironed out I will knock one up but then I will only make a new one once a month or so.
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You sir are a gentleman and a scholar
flumpster said:
I can do this quite easily as already have done it once for the prime.
The thing is I really don't have the time to keep remaking it constantly and re uploading new nightlies so if you wait a bit longer for some of the bugs to be ironed out I will knock one up but then I will only make a new one once a month or so.
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So basically PA3.0 when it releases..... There going open source for 3.0. With all the new things they are doing this will be great for the tfp
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I have a working build over at Rootzwiki, if anyone wants to check it out.
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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zanzee said:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
Danny-B- said:
Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
Danny-B- said:
Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
zanzee said:
This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
ScriptJunkie said:
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.
I've seen a little bit of talk about this now that we have some AOSP ROMs and personally would like to see this happen but I know that if I just go make a request to someone like the Cyanogenmod team I'll probably not get a response or just be told they're considering it and that's it(I could be wrong). So I'm making this thread to find out just how many people are interested in this and figure out how we should get a hold of whoever can make it happen.
I don't want to get a bunch of people to just start mass email/post/calling anyone into submission. These dev's are already doing a lot of great things for us and I don't want to ruin that. I would really rather give Google an idea of how many people want this feature or already have it through one of Samsung's ROMs and would like to keep it with AOSP so that maybe they won't give the AOSP dev's such a hard time.
So go ahead and chime in if you want multi-window for AOSP and if you know who we should get a hold of or have a good idea of how we should go about asking or if you're a dev who's tired of people always asking for features and just wants me to shut up.
In case you haven't seen cornerstone it's similar to Samsungs multi-window. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
In case you haven’t heard the story between Google and Cyanogen about cornerstone yet. http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
and https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
I want
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yes please!
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I would love it, the best ROMs are gonna be stock, but the multi window feature in touchwiz is keeping me from stock, so this would be perfect
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+1
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No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
th0r615 said:
No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
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I understand that and I know that's why CM didn't pursue it before but I think that now that Samsung has gone ahead and made multi-window available it gives us a good precedence, especially if they start using it on more phones than the note 2, like the S3. I think the big thing would be making it only work for apps that specifically state that they work with cornerstone the same way that Samsung does. I know it's a small amount of apps right now but once it hits a certain point most developers would hopefully make it standard when they make their apps and the ones that won't play nice with odd screen sizes can be left to run full screen. I'm just hoping that if they implement it they can use the same flag in apps that Samsung does so that so that app devs have a little more of a reason to make their apps use it for multi-window on AOSP and sammy ROMs.
I haven't found an app that doesn't work. Haven't really tried with games but did check a few with no problems. It works Google should roll it out.
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I think in this case Google is too worried about catering to the lowest denominator - ie. the people with smaller less known android phones rather than beasts like the S3/Nexus 4/DNA/Note 2 and their misguided complaints that their new device can't run the core OS properly.
I asked Entropy about it in IRC a couple nights ago but he said it really makes no difference even with Samsung implementing Multi window. I looked into cornerstone but it seems a bit outdated. It was last updated 10 months ago.
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It hasn't be updated to work with Jelly Bean yet, they are still working off of ICS source.
Thanks slick_rick and imnuts glad to hear some input from a developer. I've done a little research and haven't found any JB ROMs using it so darn. Unless it gets updated or if anyone thinks that Samsungs multi-window can be ported to non touch-wiz roms. I should go see if I can get a hold of anyone at onskreen to see if they have any plans on updating.
Hi,
I Just stumbled upon this one while searching internet. Is this compatible with our device? If yes, How to install it?
http://onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Thanks
You have to build it into the source or something like that, I really can't remember. I believe it could work with any higher end Android device, but I've been suggesting it on many forums for a year and a half. I don't think the devs really have anymore extra time, they have done amazing things for us already. Makes me wanna join the forces and learn more about developing.
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This sounds like CornerStone. I've been posting on several XDA forums since I found out about it. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/ Here's the site and should GitHub for the source. I think it could be used on our Notes rather easily.
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