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I thought that with the impending release of Android 3.0 AOSP, it would make sense to have a thread similar to "CM7 General Discussion thread" where users can post questions, instead of cluttering up the development threads. I'll start a FAQ in this OP and will add additional FAQ items as suggested by others in the thread.
Android 3.0 Honeycomb for Nook Color Frequently Asked Questions
Q. " Will Honeycomb run on Nook Color ?"
A. Yes. The recommended hardware is 1.0 ghz (easily obtained with Dalingrin's OC kernel) and 512mb (the same amount of RAM as found in the NC). And NC runs the preview builds just fine.
Q. " It is mid-March, the Motorola Xoom has been released with Android 3.0, yet there has not been any recent releases of builds of Honeycomb for NC - why not ?"
A. Devs are waiting for "Android 3.0 AOSP" the actual source code for the release of 3.0 that was used in the Xoom product (and others). The AOSP is often released several weeks after the release of the first hardware product.
Links to more information, test builds, scripts:
nookDevs Nook Color Portal
Honeycomb V4 2nd Flashable Zip for eMMC
Script for Working Market & GAPPS for Honeycomb
Install Root on Honeycomb
Nookie Honeycomb: Burning a bootable SD card
Dalingrin's OC kernel
Boot Menu for the Nook Color
Thanks for creating this thread. I want to bookmark it.
Nice I've been thinking about something like this for days. Has anyone dumped all of the xoom apps? Looking for that tablet Gmail...
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Looking for that tablet Gmail...
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Same, but was under the impression that wasn't going to happen until AOSP.
:/ xda app work for anyone? Whenever i click on a topic it FCs. Tried clearing cache and data.
Edit: nvm found another thread about it either dont login or get tapatalk app
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How to fix Angry Birds Force Closes
How to install Google Voice
Agree with ADude...this type of thread needed to happen for HC. Thanks for getting it going.
HC stuff is a bit slow now, with CM7 doing most of the heavy lifting at the moment, but HC will start rollin' again when (if?) AOSP is released to the masses. Would like to see this thread grow and provide a lot of good insight for those who may not be as dev-savvy. There are a lot of very smart people in the forums, so help is never too far away.
How long did it take deeper blue to port hc to the nook the first time? Just curious because I assume the same kind if wait for aosp. It seemed almost instant but I didn't have a nook at the time. It might have seemed a lot longer had I been lurking the threads then. Either way can't wait until google finally releases the code.
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Nice I've been thinking about something like this for days. Has anyone dumped all of the xoom apps? Looking for that tablet Gmail...
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Tried, but they couldn't be installed -- the SDK version changed in the final version of Honeycomb. Faking the SDK version number didn't seem to help neither.
Cant wait for a full 3.0, really exciting stuff.
Just hope they can use the BT stuff from cm7 to get it working in HC, otherwise I'm probably gonna stay with cm7.
dalingrin said that all the progress that has been made for gingerbread should transfer over to honeycomb. anyone who is interested in honeycomb should be fully supporting cyanogen as they will be the ones to get us the build.
I just got a Nook Color off eBay...I'm looking forward to rooting and installing (hopefully) honeycomb on it. How stable is it?
The emmc version by samualhaff is stable. I would recommend it, I use it as my daily driver.
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I like HC I use it every now and then on my SD card
but the only reason I havent completly moved over is that I can't get the market so that means I cant get books from B&N or Sony or such as it won't connect to my computer either
I know it is still in the beta stages though
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The emmc version by samualhaff is stable. I would recommend it, I use it as my daily driver.
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Same here. Running eMMC 2nd and I have no complaints. For being stripped from the SDK's emulator it runs rather exceptional. A few apps here and there don't work and HQ YouTube is missing but regular quality looks fine for the time being.
does eMMC 2nd allow the market?
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does eMMC 2nd allow the market?
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Yes. There is a work around for full functionality if someone has issues (a few apps are not visible however).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996327
lospulpo said:
Same here. Running eMMC 2nd and I have no complaints. For being stripped from the SDK's emulator it runs rather exceptional. A few apps here and there don't work and HQ YouTube is missing but regular quality looks fine for the time being.
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stripped from the sdk preview at that. it works remarkably well.
I tried the nexus one final sdk build, and the sdk berson and the APIs should match the AOSP, so more honeycomb features and apps worked, which made me even more eager for our next nook color release, be it final sdk based or AOSP.
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fzr-r4 said:
which made me even more eager for our next nook color release, be it funnel sdk based or AOSP.
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The devs are waiting for AOSP, which is already overdue.
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The devs are waiting for AOSP, which is already overdue.
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Yeah it feels overdue. I have a feeling they arnt going to release it
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Yeah it feels overdue. I have a feeling they arnt going to release it
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You have a feeling they aren't going to release it?
You do realize that Android is Open Source, right?
Hey guys, So I made an attempt to port 3.2 sdk to nook and i had a minor success with it.
Basically i have used Divine-Madcat's modifications from 3.0 sdk with 3.2 sdk image from Google, and after a very few changes it worked!!
But there are a lot of problems right now, for ex-
It takes a lot of time to load up and screen remains blank unless i use power button,
Display just goes blank randomly but comes back on using power button,
Android seems to take touch input as a mouse input and displays a round pointer,
laggy as hell(sometimes, randomly it goes smooth), probably displays one frame per second, and usually hangs up after a minute of use.
Wifi-not working
sd-card- not working
This is in no way usable right now, but i am posting the zip file anyway, hoping that someone will come out of no-where and help me fix this(thinking of this as an opportunity to learn)
So try it if you are feeling adventurous and want to fix things up.
Format data before u proceed.
DO NOT FORMAT BOOT.
MEDIAFIRE LINK
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for what happens to your nook, if you decide to flash this zip(though it likely won't do any damage).
reserved for future
Good luck to you, kind sir.
Looks good, but not even close to daily driver. Screenies?
None of the SDKs, including my own, are daily drivers. Until we can compile code, they will never be daily drivers.
Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
If you say so.
ikingblack said:
If you say so.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
Divine_Madcat said:
Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
Progress is progress. At the same time, I'm starting to feel like we're hitting a brick wall without any type of hardware acceleration. The SDK ports themselves usually run next to fine functionality wise, but the lack of hardware acceleration means that virtually all of honeycomb is unstable without massive tweaking.
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
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That isn't too surprising, since the hardware is the same as every other tablet (Tegra2), and most of the acceleration should work without needing a recompile. On the other hand, we have to use the SDK code, which is compiled very generically, and we don't have that luxury.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
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Of course.
I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
arrjaytea -
I could guarantee, with the AOSP code, the nook would be an even neater device. Frankly, assuming we dont lose a dev base, i see great things for our device when ICS hits. As it is, from everything i have heard form our CM7 brethren, CM7's efforts are not for waste; many lessons and fixes learned here will help future efforts..
Assuming el goog keeps their word, the nook is still living the high life.
I really hope the current devs stick around long enough to dev a great ICS rom. I cannot wait for that at all. Finally, a proper HC-"based" rom for it.
In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
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After working a lot more with honeycomb port, i think i am happy that a lot more developers are actually working on cm7 than on honeycomb ports, these ports are a good way to try honeycomb on nook and have a little fun but, i don't think that even if we solve the video drivers issue honeycomb sdk could be used as a daily driver. The problems are just too much and the amount of tweaking it would require to get a good usable rom would not be worth it. Even functionality wise, sdk's have lots of problem. As for when source it released i think we will get at least one more CM port simply because the no of nook owners is just a lot right now.
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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That's the inherent risk involved in adopting the open source model. You have a chance of fragmentation because you have so many manufacturers developing device or brand specific code and you have many developers developing codes specific to their roms, but what some see as fragmentation others see as variety, accessibility, and community driven problem solving. Android is probably on twice as many devices as Apples iOS. In my opinion a little fragmentation is worth the price.
I am disappointed that Google didn't release the source code. Anybody who has the ability to do some crazy like run honeycomb on their G1 phone or any other phone for that matter should be prepared for an experimental experience.
As for manufactures the Chinese putting Donut on their tablets--perhaps would have been easier for them to put Honeycomb on it if Google would have released the source codes. A lot of us are running phone OSes on our tablet albeit most of us are running Gingerbread on our Nook colors, but it would be nice to get a tablet OS like Honeycomb. Ice Cream Sandwich is suppose to be a Q4 release, but we'll see if that still happens. At least their is some hope. Just my humble 2 cents.
Hi,
Not sure if this has been discussed before.. but with my tablet I am constantly running into the need for switching between apps quickly. While this is done easily enough, it would be nice to have more than one application open on the screen at a time. While browsing the web for something that fulfills this, I stumbled upon this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedNfbKVMSM
This is exactly what I need! While this is not an app, this is something that I would love to have. Does anyone have any similar applications they use? Or any work around? I heard that CM9 might have Cornerstone included.. that would be very nice.
Thanks!
That is a very interesting concept. Would be great to enhance productivity. Bout to check out their site.
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EDIT: some info...
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
EDIT2: Downloaded the zip from github. Looks like a flashable zip, but I'm not taking any chances. No sense in bricking! Maybe someone more educated on this stuff can chime in.
This is something a developer must work into their rom. Just hope that in the future a Rom has one baked into it (that is if you unlock/flash cwm and such).
Please do not request it in the dev section though
I know there was some discussion last week about this and the possiblity of it being incorporated into CM9, but I'm not sure where it ended up.
I know there was a discussion from one of the Google engineers urging people not to do it with ICS (as cornerstone is open source now).
Might want to do a google search to see what comes up.
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I know there was some discussion last week about this and the possiblity of it being incorporated into CM9, but I'm not sure where it ended up.
I know there was a discussion from one of the Google engineers urging people not to do it with ICS (as cornerstone is open source now).
Might want to do a google search to see what comes up.
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I will search for this but if you can find direct links that would be awesome (my googling skills are not that great and you know what your looking for)
why would they say not to do this?
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500353&highlight=cornerstone
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Hi,
Not sure if this has been discussed before.. but with my tablet I am constantly running into the need for switching between apps quickly. While this is done easily enough, it would be nice to have more than one application open on the screen at a time. While browsing the web for something that fulfills this, I stumbled upon this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedNfbKVMSM
This is exactly what I need! While this is not an app, this is something that I would love to have. Does anyone have any similar applications they use? Or any work around? I heard that CM9 might have Cornerstone included.. that would be very nice.
Thanks!
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Their is a thread on the tf 101general interested in porting this over... I've played with this on my tf101and its awesome
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23080116
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this would be amazing, I cant wait to see what the devs come up with now that we can unlock this baby.
As we have the bootloader unlock tool, sooner or or later there will be a rom with something like this integrated Cant wait!!
Google should be doing something like that on their own, this is genius. Also its perfect on a 1280x800 screen. More than enough room for multiple windows if you arrange it like cornerstone does.
Not sure it will arrive soon. I saw posts on Google+: this product is quite limited, you can only have the three windows, and can't do another way. Intregration in CM9 had begun but it seems quite hard to achieve, very hard programming stuff...
It may have only 3 windows, but I would settle for just 2 windows.. Just to have the ability to have more than 1 app open at a time.
The post from Cyanogen I read on G+ basically said they're not going to implement this. It takes major changes in source code and frameworks, and was really intended to be a commercial feature that OEMs might add into their roms. Doubt we'll ever see this in a CM build.
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Edit: Aforementioned post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106527379151691513977/posts/3hkAaD6eah4
adalgiso said:
The post from Cyanogen I read on G+ basically said they're not going to implement this. It takes major changes in source code and frameworks, and was really intended to be a commercial feature that OEMs might add into their roms. Doubt we'll ever see this in a CM build.
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Well that is a bummer. Could have really used something to open multiple windows...
Personally I would much rather see a true multi-windowed environment such as the one by wind River (http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/7/2688901/android-multi-windowing-wind-river-software-modules) or Ixonos (http://hothardware.com/News/Ixonos-Creates-MultiWindow-Solution-For-Android/)
These are true windowed environments, and make much more sense to me on a larger (tablet) screen.
I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
Really.......
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RiiGGS said:
I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
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I thanked your post, not because it was in any way useful but absolutely hilarious!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that will most likely never happen. I'll trade my wife's iPhone 4 for your Note though, I'll even throw in a dead iPad!
Well, truth be told, there is not a solution yet.
BUT, if you wait a bit, a rom called MIUI will likely be developed.
Let me explain...
Cyanogen is a team that develops 'clean' Android roms for many devices. This means, no bloat and has ALL of the features that Android has to offer, enabled (with exception to features that would not be applicable because the phone simply does not have the hardware - for example, if your phone does not have NFC, Cyanogen wont support it for your device and they simply remove all of the code related to this). The result is, the most feature rich version of Android (and most up to date as they do keep up with Google's releases) with the least amount of crap. This keeps the phone lean and clean.
Now, since Cyanogen is open source, they make the source code available for other rom developers to modify what they have done to create different experiences. This allows developers to start with a feature rich rom and develop on top of that to add their own 'flavor' to their work.
One such 'flavor' is MIUI which strives to make your Android device as Iphone like as possible. While it isnt perfectly matched to the Iphone, its moderately close.
Dont get me wrong, I for the life of me am baffled as to why someone would want their Android phone to look like an Iphone but that is what MIUI is there for.
(BTW, if I am wrong about MIUI, feel free to mention it, based on everything I have read about it however, the impression I got was to theme an Android OS to look like IOS).
However, we have a long way before this happens. Rom developers have barely figured out how to do anything with this phone.
To my knowledge, there is only 1 custom rom (Saurom) and it isnt really all that custom from what I can see. All it seems to have is enhancements from the stock rom (overclocking, cwm, att bloat removed?) but in essence is just a more efficient streamlined stock rom.
There is also only one custom kernel that I can see that again, is the same as the stock kernel but allows for overclocking (and I think I read that the davlik cache size was increased).
Once Samsung releases the source code for the Note, we will start seeing alot more rom development, at which time Cyanogen will jump on board and start making roms (using the source that Samsung releases for things like drivers) and once Cyanogen has a relatively stable rom, MIUI will likely take the Cyanogen source and tweak it.
Very convoluted I know but probably wont be seeing anything earth shattering until the source code is released from Samsung.
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Well, truth be told, there is not a solution yet.
BUT, if you wait a bit, a rom called MIUI will likely be developed.
Let me explain...
Cyanogen is a team that develops 'clean' Android roms for many devices. This means, no bloat and has ALL of the features that Android has to offer, enabled (with exception to features that would not be applicable because the phone simply does not have the hardware - for example, if your phone does not have NFC, Cyanogen wont support it for your device and they simply remove all of the code related to this). The result is, the most feature rich version of Android (and most up to date as they do keep up with Google's releases) with the least amount of crap. This keeps the phone lean and clean.
Now, since Cyanogen is open source, they make the source code available for other rom developers to modify what they have done to create different experiences. This allows developers to start with a feature rich rom and develop on top of that to add their own 'flavor' to their work.
One such 'flavor' is MIUI which strives to make your Android device as Iphone like as possible. While it isnt perfectly matched to the Iphone, its moderately close.
Dont get me wrong, I for the life of me am baffled as to why someone would want their Android phone to look like an Iphone but that is what MIUI is there for.
(BTW, if I am wrong about MIUI, feel free to mention it, based on everything I have read about it however, the impression I got was to theme an Android OS to look like IOS).
However, we have a long way before this happens. Rom developers have barely figured out how to do anything with this phone.
To my knowledge, there is only 1 custom rom (Saurom) and it isnt really all that custom from what I can see. All it seems to have is enhancements from the stock rom (overclocking, cwm, att bloat removed?) but in essence is just a more efficient streamlined stock rom.
There is also only one custom kernel that I can see that again, is the same as the stock kernel but allows for overclocking (and I think I read that the davlik cache size was increased).
Once Samsung releases the source code for the Note, we will start seeing alot more rom development, at which time Cyanogen will jump on board and start making roms (using the source that Samsung releases for things like drivers) and once Cyanogen has a relatively stable rom, MIUI will likely take the Cyanogen source and tweak it.
Very convoluted I know but probably wont be seeing anything earth shattering until the source code is released from Samsung.
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Off topic but, didn't samsung already already release the source code right before the release of the phone itself?
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Off topic but, didn't samsung already already release the source code right before the release of the phone itself?
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Afaik they released the kernel source but that's it. I could be mistaken
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Really you come on an android forum and talk about how you like apple better?
What did you think would happen?
If you want a fruitphone go get in your VW Jetta and get one. Don't ruin a real phone by putting ios on it.
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iOS On Note
What I was really hoping for was to be able to keep my Notes Hardware while having full iOS software so I could Facetime or use itunes,appstore,gamecenter,and so forth.
RiiGGS said:
What I was really hoping for was to be able to keep my Notes Hardware while having full iOS software so I could Facetime or use itunes,appstore,gamecenter,and so forth.
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https://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I717
Is this the sources you were speaking of. If so i am still trying to figure out if this is the full source or just kernel
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I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
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Excuse me....I just threw up in my throat a little bit.
And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
lol well on the bright side, at least his question was posted in the correct forum section.
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https://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I717
Is this the sources you were speaking of. If so i am still trying to figure out if this is the full source or just kernel
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Those are kernel sources only not full OS source.
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And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
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No need to flame really. We were all new here at some point. A simple no it won't happen will suffice
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And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
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No, the flaming won't begin, the thread will end. Here.
I've seen a little bit of talk about this now that we have some AOSP ROMs and personally would like to see this happen but I know that if I just go make a request to someone like the Cyanogenmod team I'll probably not get a response or just be told they're considering it and that's it(I could be wrong). So I'm making this thread to find out just how many people are interested in this and figure out how we should get a hold of whoever can make it happen.
I don't want to get a bunch of people to just start mass email/post/calling anyone into submission. These dev's are already doing a lot of great things for us and I don't want to ruin that. I would really rather give Google an idea of how many people want this feature or already have it through one of Samsung's ROMs and would like to keep it with AOSP so that maybe they won't give the AOSP dev's such a hard time.
So go ahead and chime in if you want multi-window for AOSP and if you know who we should get a hold of or have a good idea of how we should go about asking or if you're a dev who's tired of people always asking for features and just wants me to shut up.
In case you haven't seen cornerstone it's similar to Samsungs multi-window. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
In case you haven’t heard the story between Google and Cyanogen about cornerstone yet. http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
and https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
I want
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yes please!
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I would love it, the best ROMs are gonna be stock, but the multi window feature in touchwiz is keeping me from stock, so this would be perfect
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No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
th0r615 said:
No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
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I understand that and I know that's why CM didn't pursue it before but I think that now that Samsung has gone ahead and made multi-window available it gives us a good precedence, especially if they start using it on more phones than the note 2, like the S3. I think the big thing would be making it only work for apps that specifically state that they work with cornerstone the same way that Samsung does. I know it's a small amount of apps right now but once it hits a certain point most developers would hopefully make it standard when they make their apps and the ones that won't play nice with odd screen sizes can be left to run full screen. I'm just hoping that if they implement it they can use the same flag in apps that Samsung does so that so that app devs have a little more of a reason to make their apps use it for multi-window on AOSP and sammy ROMs.
I haven't found an app that doesn't work. Haven't really tried with games but did check a few with no problems. It works Google should roll it out.
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I think in this case Google is too worried about catering to the lowest denominator - ie. the people with smaller less known android phones rather than beasts like the S3/Nexus 4/DNA/Note 2 and their misguided complaints that their new device can't run the core OS properly.
I asked Entropy about it in IRC a couple nights ago but he said it really makes no difference even with Samsung implementing Multi window. I looked into cornerstone but it seems a bit outdated. It was last updated 10 months ago.
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It hasn't be updated to work with Jelly Bean yet, they are still working off of ICS source.
Thanks slick_rick and imnuts glad to hear some input from a developer. I've done a little research and haven't found any JB ROMs using it so darn. Unless it gets updated or if anyone thinks that Samsungs multi-window can be ported to non touch-wiz roms. I should go see if I can get a hold of anyone at onskreen to see if they have any plans on updating.