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Android Central article says UK Primes unaffected by wifi issues seen in the States. Can any of our Brit friends confirm this?
Articles also says UK warranty extended to 18 months and Asus will give refunds if not happy with GPS.
We need to see the same offer globally! It would make me feel better holding out for a fix and give us enough time to trade in for the tf700 if nothing is resolved.
http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-...uk-june-british-tf201s-unaffected-wifi-glitch
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Is the UK version made out of a different back plate, or is it really a software issue?
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DroidHam said:
Is the UK version made out of a different back plate, or is it really a software issue?
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Asus (US) told me today it was a WiFi "card" issue. And that some do not work correctly. So, Asus offered to RMA mine, and is going to check (and hopefully fix) it.
It may be that Asus had to dial back the gain on the wifi radio to comply with FCC regulations. This is speculation of course, but the EU's/UK's regulatory laws pertaining to harmful interference are a little less draconian than the United States.
Europe uses different Wi-Fi channels than America and may have required Asus to use a different Wi-Fi chip/card.
Can only say that here in the netherlands there also have been quite a number of people with wifi/gps issues so I don;t think 'all the euro units are unaffected' but who knows, maybe the UK units are a different batch...
Different batch or FCC issue. Seems like pretty good answers to me.
I wish Asus would be more open about this. Soon.
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Well I won't buy one until I'm sure the Wifi & GPS works fine!
I have a UK Transformer Prime, And i cant say i have noticed any issues with Wifi signal.
Im yet to use GPS but if you guys let me know what tests you want me to run i can do them later and post results after the blackout.
I've not tested my UK model with any particular tool, but I've not had any wi-fi issues in day to day use.
The backplate is made out of special shiny backplate material.
Trust me, the units in the UK aren't perfect.
I'm on my third which is going back today after being in a constant boot loop since upgrade to ICS.
On all 3, the gps has failed to see more than one sat and the wireless performance on either my home or work N network is amongst the worst of any device i've owned. Speed drops off rapidly as you move away from the ap and complete loss of connectivity is frequent.
This announcement is concerning as if this is the prime working i think i'll pass on another. Saying that though, i just dont know whats going on as in the post above, there are completely happy users who seem to have no issues
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Trust me, the units in the UK aren't perfect.
I'm on my third which is going back today after being in a constant boot loop since upgrade to ICS.
On all 3, the gps has failed to see more than one sat and the wireless performance on either my home or work N network is amongst the worst of any device i've owned. Speed drops off rapidly as you move away from the ap and complete loss of connectivity is frequent.
This announcement is concerning as if this is the prime working i think i'll pass on another. Saying that though, i just dont know whats going on as in the post above, there are completely happy users who seem to have no issues
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3 units in less than a week? thats some turn around!
What tests or actions best show what you are seeing? maybe i can try them with mine and see if i get the same.
UK units are not perfect. WiFi signal is still weaker than it is on my phone, which has mostly plastic body and GPS, while it can lock at times, can't really be used for car navigations.
But WiFi seems 'stable' and doesn't drop off in the middle of using it, which makes it a non-issue for me, since I rarely use it in areas with weak WiFi signal to begin with.
UK owner here too. Wifi has been generally fine for me. When I first got it the browser seemed to hang quite a bit but I don't know if that was hardware of software. After upgrading to ICS, browser+ and the browser+ update it seems fine. I did notice yesterday that when I was next to the wifi router it was super quick and then using it last night up stairs about 15-20 feet away it was maybe 20% slowly, which in real terms is maybe half a second so not noticeable.
How would I do GPS tests?
Felix
Wifi for mine in the uk has been good getting 20 to 25 mbps and i am a fair distance from the router. I have never been able to get any lock on GPS whatsoever. Asus uk have offered me an additional 6 months warranty, but i am currently seeing if comet will take it back and give me a full refund as asus have said to return it if not fit for purpose. I will order another and hope it gives me some kind of GPS. I don't want it for navigation but do want to be able to use places or maps. It also has 2 dead pixels and the screen rotation does not always work. As i have paid £499 i want a near as perfect device. John lewis are offering 2 years warranty as well so have ordered from there.
My wifi is stronger than my GS2!
Through 3 walls (brick in England ) about 20m away I get half bars - Channel 1, G, @54mbps.
I think that UK version does have a different antenna/card
I think its likely that the Uk ones do have a different card. HOWEVER
I am getting intermittant issues on mine. Sometimes ill be getting perfect speed and suddenly it drops off here and there. Im connected to my works WIFI and it does the same..
yesaterday i was downloading GTA3 and it did 10mb then stopped. Same with other downloads.
Personally im going to keep my prime as everything else is brilliant. And hopefully in the coming months patchs will come about. For me thats not an issue.
GPS doesnt work at all for me. No locks what so ever. But i am yest to try outside in the open air. I dont like standing in the rain really.
All uk people with issues could you post your SN Number like so:
BCOKASxxxxxx
Dont put your numbers in, just the text prefix. would be intresting to see if it is a batch of primes thats at fault.
I haven't tested the GPS yet, but so far the WiFi is ok.
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geinome said:
I think its likely that the Uk ones do have a different card. HOWEVER
I am getting intermittant issues on mine. Sometimes ill be getting perfect speed and suddenly it drops off here and there. Im connected to my works WIFI and it does the same..
yesaterday i was downloading GTA3 and it did 10mb then stopped. Same with other downloads.
Personally im going to keep my prime as everything else is brilliant. And hopefully in the coming months patchs will come about. For me thats not an issue.
GPS doesnt work at all for me. No locks what so ever. But i am yest to try outside in the open air. I dont like standing in the rain really.
All uk people with issues could you post your SN Number like so:
BCOKASxxxxxx
Dont put your numbers in, just the text prefix. would be intresting to see if it is a batch of primes thats at fault.
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Mines the same serial as yours and i dont have an issue with wifi its same as my laptop and just tested gps got 9 sats with 5 locks dont know if thats good but at least its working
Ok ive been trying despartely for a week to find a prime near where i live. (lexington ky) I finally found one and here is a tip. Even if staples or bestbuy or officedepot says its sold out online. Tell it to check in store availability. Turns out staples in my area is not putting them on display and holding them in lock up until next week but theyll still sell them if you ask for it. So i called the one who said they had it in stock and sure enough they did. They held if for me till after class and i went down and got it.
No backlight bleed
No wifi issues
havent tried gps yet.
Serial Number is C10KAS
Congrats.
Let us know how your GPS does and the first few digits of your serial.
I got a C10KAS unit from Staples on Sunday via the same method (the sales guy didn't even know they had them in stock), and mine's excellent. Everything works (even haptic feedback, which is a first among the many units I've tried), including GPS--I got 10/12 satellites and 36' accuracy sitting on my bed last night. Outside, I lock to as many as 12/14 satellites within 30 seconds with wifi off. It's not stable in my car, but for any stationary geolocation it works great.
I got one too just now from staples with the same method. He had to get it from the back for me.. And looks like even other staples guys didnt know about it.. cuz his manager came up while he was ringing it for me and said "we have that? my friend was asking for it couple of weeks ago"
BTW, should i update to .13 update directly or we need to go step by step with other previous versions incrementally? (Im planning to do it manually instead of OTA)
EDIT: Serial number is C10K....
Ok I just did all the ota's. And gps is working great im in a campus building on UK's campus and i got 12 birds. Im so glad i decided to get this regardless of what people were saying. serials first digits are C10KAS06XXXX then it has a little 12 after it
Congrats!
I think mine's newer as mine is 10 and not 06 but no go with GPS. Wi-Fi is still a problem when moving away from the router. Did you try that?
im on campus and its moving fine between there wifi
Welcome to the Club
Same here lol. Got mine at Staples as well. C1 serial so far solid wifi and GPS. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Ok so today has been my first full day with the prime. I LOVE it. Has had zero wifi issues while at home or on campus which is saying something because college campus wifi is notoriously crappy if your moving around. I pulled a 22 mbps download rate with 2 bars pf wifi while on campus.
That's odd because after running around taking the one with the "B" serial number back and getting a "C" at Staples I've had no difference unless I'm using GPS test wrong I get no sats and I live in Philadelphia so that mission produced no results only thing left is the tom tom GPS receiver that I bought
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I also have a C serial number prime. No issues except for backlight bleed and very minor ICS graphics glitch. Also, +1 for Prime being awesome on campus internet.
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That's odd because after running around taking the one with the "B" serial number back and getting a "C" at Staples I've had no difference unless I'm using GPS test wrong I get no sats and I live in Philadelphia so that mission produced no results only thing left is the tom tom GPS receiver that I bought
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Not your fault or the primes, they don't have GPS in Philly
That's funny I get GPS on my Galaxy Nexus!!
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I just got mine on Wednesday.......tested everything to see how it worked.......no issues other than the known GPS issue.......I was getting 2 bars of wifi signal at work from about 70ft through one wall.......at home from 30ft through two walls 3 bars.......no slowdowns, lightbleed, etc......did the upgrade to 4.0.3 on Friday......everything as smooth as can be.......everything still good except GPS (which I generally will not use except for the location // ie no turn by turn ever).......grey/ with dock......serial #C10KAS103xxx.......lucky I guess
Thanks for replying that's just where I'm at the GPS issue is it and you know what its taking the pleasure out of enjoying this excellent tablet. I don't even take tablets in the car. Never gave a **** about GPS so I'm not going to now thanks for chiming in
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Grats on your Primes!
I have got my 2nd Prime and didnt got any gps or wifi problems but backlight bleedings on both..
Hello folks:
I received a replacement TF201 two weeks ago from ASUS after sending the original unit to them in mid-January for several issues. The replacement unit solved all of my initial concerns except for GPS - which is DOA unless WIFI is turned on. I decided to call ASUS today and see what they would say about the GPS issue now since more than a month has passed. ASUS has setup a new hotline in California for TF201 customers who have problems with GPS.
I spoke with Aaron a few minutes ago. He told me that the TF201 has an aGPS which means it must be connected to the internet to function properly. I clarified that my receipt indicates that the TF201 is indeed GPS and the products I looked at prior to purchase also stated GPS. At first, Aaron said there was nothing he could do to help me. I asked to speak with his supervisor and he changed his tune. He offered me a courtesy refund for the unit and any other accessories I purchased for it. A new RMA number has been issued to me and shipping is paid for. The refund will be issued when the unit arrives at the RMA facility.
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Good luck everyone.
bought yours directly from Asus?
****ing_lukin said:
Hello folks:
I received a replacement TF201 two weeks ago from ASUS after sending the original unit to them in mid-January for several issues. The replacement unit solved all of my initial concerns except for GPS - which is DOA unless WIFI is turned on. I decided to call ASUS today and see what they would say about the GPS issue now since more than a month has passed. ASUS has setup a new hotline in California for TF201 customers who have problems with GPS.
I spoke with Aaron a few minutes ago. He told me that the TF201 has an aGPS which means it must be connected to the internet to function properly. I clarified that my receipt indicates that the TF201 is indeed GPS and the products I looked at prior to purchase also stated GPS. At first, Aaron said there was nothing he could do to help me. I asked to speak with his supervisor and he changed his tune. He offered me a courtesy refund for the unit and any other accessories I purchased for it. A new RMA number has been issued to me and shipping is paid for. The refund will be issued when the unit arrives at the RMA facility.
Admin edit to insert Asus tel number 888-678-3688 in place of individual contact at Asus (Asus request)
Good luck everyone.
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Good post! Thanks for the info. I know a lot of people will appreciate it.
chivas228 said:
bought yours directly from Asus?
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Nope. I bought it at Canada Computers. My return period ended on January 6th and so this is a special opportunity to resolve the GPS issue.
same here but hai trat is helping me they will also refund your tablet and dock
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****ing_lukin said:
Hello folks:
I received a replacement TF201 two weeks ago from ASUS after sending the original unit to them in mid-January for several issues. The replacement unit solved all of my initial concerns except for GPS - which is DOA unless WIFI is turned on. I decided to call ASUS today and see what they would say about the GPS issue now since more than a month has passed. ASUS has setup a new hotline in California for TF201 customers who have problems with GPS.
I spoke with Aaron a few minutes ago. He told me that the TF201 has an aGPS which means it must be connected to the internet to function properly. I clarified that my receipt indicates that the TF201 is indeed GPS and the products I looked at prior to purchase also stated GPS. At first, Aaron said there was nothing he could do to help me. I asked to speak with his supervisor and he changed his tune. He offered me a courtesy refund for the unit and any other accessories I purchased for it. A new RMA number has been issued to me and shipping is paid for. The refund will be issued when the unit arrives at the RMA facility.
Admin edit to insert Asus tel number 888-678-3688 in place of individual contact at Asus (Asus request)
Good luck everyone.
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Cool story bro.
Just kidding. This is how one should handle one's self when dealing with Customer Service. Yelling and *****ing and threatening won't work. Be polite, and only use the supervisor card as a last resort.
Good job getting a partial refund.
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Good job getting a partial refund.
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Full refund. Purchase price + local tax.
****ing_lukin said:
Hello folks:
I received a replacement TF201 two weeks ago from ASUS after sending the original unit to them in mid-January for several issues. The replacement unit solved all of my initial concerns except for GPS - which is DOA unless WIFI is turned on. I decided to call ASUS today and see what they would say about the GPS issue now since more than a month has passed. ASUS has setup a new hotline in California for TF201 customers who have problems with GPS.
I spoke with Aaron a few minutes ago. He told me that the TF201 has an aGPS which means it must be connected to the internet to function properly. I clarified that my receipt indicates that the TF201 is indeed GPS and the products I looked at prior to purchase also stated GPS. At first, Aaron said there was nothing he could do to help me. I asked to speak with his supervisor and he changed his tune. He offered me a courtesy refund for the unit and any other accessories I purchased for it. A new RMA number has been issued to me and shipping is paid for. The refund will be issued when the unit arrives at the RMA facility.
Admin edit to insert Asus tel number 888-678-3688 in place of individual contact at Asus (Asus request)
Good luck everyone.
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Good stuff thanks for # I was dealing with this same call center in CA Gary Key had them contact me # was a little different.
Anyone else have success getting a refund?
I got a full refund in the UK with Comet based on the GPS issue. I had a couple of dead pixels and a slight creak on the right hand side. I had it for a few weeks and then through calling Comet with the issue they offered me a full refund even though it was past the 7 days. They checked with Asus first and then allowed me to get the refund.
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Not me - I just learned about this yesterday. The refund will be processed when the unit is received at the RMA facility.
Asus has had my Prime and Dock for over a month now and I have yet to see a refund this is getting ridiculous.
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No way i'm giving that awesome tablet away ever again But great to see ASUS is doing this.
i'm curious what people think they could do if they had GPS instead of aGPS?
even if you had standard GPS which downloads GPS info from the satelites, its still useless with out an internet connection because everything that uses GPS needs internet to download map data.
the only thing that your GPS would be good for is a compass if you had GPS instead of aGPS.
now you could probably say that's not true and you would purchase and download an app that comes with downloadable maps that doesn't require internet connectivity but lets be honest, who uses anything besides google maps?
i'm glad you got a refund and went about it the calm and collected way (you get more bees with honey is the saying)
just boggles my mind how many people really think that they NEED GPS instead of aGPS. so many people honestly think that their device will give them map directions with out internet and only GPS connectivity (i'm not saying you think that)
it really sounds like a lot more people have buyers remorse and found a great loophole to get their money back or people that have to have the latest device and want an easy fast way out so they can get the next latest and greatest.
Asus SHOULD be giving money back if people demand it thats the proper thing to do since technically their box and documentation states GPS not aGPS.. i just wish more people wouldnt cry about GPS like that really made their experience that much worse than aGPS.
(hmm lets count how many times i said gps and agps lol)
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Asus has had my Prime and Dock for over a month now and I have yet to see a refund this is getting ridiculous.
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Same Here. But ...
ASUS Corporate in California received my Prime on 2/24. Mine was shipped to ASUS Fedx overnight, paid by ASUS. I have a delivery receipt for it.
Called ASUS yesterday to find out where the refund check was because I was told that a check would be sent to me 3 days after ASUS received my Prime.
Well would you believe that the internal ASUS mail department never sent the package on to the person that the package was addressed to! The Prime spent three weeks in ASUS receiving. My contact at ASUS had to call the ASUS receiving department to find the package and have it sent to her. Yes this sounds like the other post about a "circus".
So hopefully on Monday, March 19th a check should be sent to me by overnight delivery.
I just hope that the ASUS shipping department isn't the same group as the ASUS receiving department.
(hmm lets count how many times i said gps and agps lol)[/QUOTE]
For the record, I haven't sent my Prime for refund... yet. I still may RMA once more to see if I can get GPS that locks on anything.
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Same Here. But ...
ASUS Corporate in California received my Prime on 2/24. Mine was shipped to ASUS Fedx overnight, paid by ASUS. I have a delivery receipt for it.
Called ASUS yesterday to find out where the refund check was because I was told that a check would be sent to me 3 days after ASUS received my Prime.
Well would you believe that the internal ASUS mail department never sent the package on to the person that the package was addressed to! The Prime spent three weeks in ASUS receiving. My contact at ASUS had to call the ASUS receiving department to find the package and have it sent to her. Yes this sounds like the other post about a "circus".
So hopefully on Monday, March 19th a check should be sent to me by overnight delivery.
I just hope that the ASUS shipping department isn't the same group as the ASUS receiving department.
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Well expect more delays because mine was processed and received and my refund was approved and passed on to accounting 3 weeks ago (confirmed by the In care of I sent the package to. TRINITY) and I still have yet to see my check that like you said was supposed to be sent within 3 days. I get a strange feeling I will never see my money back from Asus
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i'm curious what people think they could do if they had GPS instead of aGPS?
even if you had standard GPS which downloads GPS info from the satelites, its still useless with out an internet connection because everything that uses GPS needs internet to download map data.
the only thing that your GPS would be good for is a compass if you had GPS instead of aGPS.
now you could probably say that's not true and you would purchase and download an app that comes with downloadable maps that doesn't require internet connectivity but lets be honest, who uses anything besides google maps?
i'm glad you got a refund and went about it the calm and collected way (you get more bees with honey is the saying)
just boggles my mind how many people really think that they NEED GPS instead of aGPS. so many people honestly think that their device will give them map directions with out internet and only GPS connectivity (i'm not saying you think that)
it really sounds like a lot more people have buyers remorse and found a great loophole to get their money back or people that have to have the latest device and want an easy fast way out so they can get the next latest and greatest.
Asus SHOULD be giving money back if people demand it thats the proper thing to do since technically their box and documentation states GPS not aGPS.. i just wish more people wouldnt cry about GPS like that really made their experience that much worse than aGPS.
(hmm lets count how many times i said gps and agps lol)
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What a Croc that post is
My Phone is agps yet I have travelled to Spain from UK & Back (over 1500 miles each way ) guided by phone using route 66 & never once used internet connection ,infact had all data disabled
A-gps just helps it get lock quicker
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Well expect more delays because mine was processed and received and my refund was approved and passed on to accounting 3 weeks ago (confirmed by the In care of I sent the package to. TRINITY) and I still have yet to see my check that like you said was supposed to be sent within 3 days. I get a strange feeling I will never see my money back from Asus
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Did you have to wait a long time to speak to Trinity? I've been waiting a week to talk to her.
Sent mine for RMA on 2/14 and my tablet sat there for 16 business, 23 calendar days (holiday included) with no movement from the waiting status. It was sent in for WiFi, GPS and the HDMI port mainly. The repair center is a joke and I could go on and on about the countless phone calls and the broken promises of someone will call you back or email you or your status should change in 24-48 hours. Yeah right, never happened once. It took them a week just to show it on their repair status inquiry site.
I PMed Gary and he put a Customer Care manager on it and while that was beginning the repair center agreed to send my prime back to me (took an additional 7 days just to do that) as I said I would rather have it back then to wait until whenever they get parts or replacement units. I am very happy to have it back. It's the same as when I sent it in but I have control of the situation once again. When they sort out what the heck their doing to repair these things I'll deal with it then.
All I can say now is how nice it was to receive the call from Trinity saying she is personally handling my case and whatever decision I make for repair, replacement or full refund for tablet, dock and any accessories she will make it happen. Gary certainly put the right people on it for me and has turned around a very difficult, (saying it nicely) situation with the service center to one of recommending again (can't believe I'm saying that) based solely on my opinion that 50% of the service center people seem to care and 100% of the 501 area code people I've spoken with are just awesome. I think 501 area code is Arkansas but anyways, can't say it any better for them. I'll be making my decision Monday but seeing how they will send the tablet to me first, with a credit card for security, and they'll open it up and check it out before sending, it should be an easy decision for the replacement unit. Just have to get over the GPS.
I have some questions to anyone who has returned their tablet to ASUS for a refund.
1. When did you get a refund?
2. Why did you refund/What did Asus say?
3. Who organized your refund?
I have swapped out my Prime 3 times with Asus, and on my fourth and last swap, I received a tablet with dead pixels and EXTREME light bleed. It seems to me that Asus is using extremely low quality displays in this tablet.
So, I initiated a refund, and haven't heard anything since I gave my information.
Wonder how long it takes to hear back about sending the prime in? My prime and dock are sitting with me in their boxes, but I haven't heard anything about shipping it back?
Thanks!
I should think that, being on your 4th prime, they should respond - and refund - immediately and with no questions asked.
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Four Primes?! Why did you even bother?
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Four Primes?! Why did you even bother?
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Haha i wanted the prime so bad. But I'm not paying 650 for it unless its perfect, so I tried and tried. Believe me I'm at the very end of my limit with this tablet.
I got a refund check a few days ago. My HDMI port stopped working, my dock wasn't assembled right and clicked a bit when you held it, and I had the standard GPS and WiFi issues. I had initially emailed ASUS's "escalation mailbox" and didn't get a reply for a long time so I PM'd Gary Key (the ASUS rep on this forum). He put me in touch with Hai Trat who offered me the refund that I'd requested. I emailed him copies of my receipt and within a few days I was told to send the tablet to their Fremont CA office with a prepaid Fedex label. I was issued an RMA number but it never worked with the RMA status checking site. Hai said I could contact him for status updates, and he was always very responsive. I sent it in on March 29 and got my check April 16. Compared to some people's refund experiences on here, it seems like mine went unusually smoothly...
Mine also went pretty well. I sent in my Prime and it sat in RMA for over a month. I contacted Asus and told them I was expecting more of a 14 day turn around. He told me he would get back to me (yeah right... right?).
The next day (Friday) I got an email stating that they were having a parts supply issue and would refund me. On Monday I received a call after I didn't reply asking if I had got the message and considered the offer. He talked me through different options and scenarios and I told him that I would think about it and get back with him soon.
A couple days later a Prime became available on Amazon so I took it and immediately started my refund procedure with Asus. I sent everything back and I waited a week after it arrived at there facility to call (mostly because I was busy). I received a prompt reply that the check was in the mail.
Unfortunately, Asus shipped many of the first batches to smaller retailers with explicit 'no refund' policies. In fact, my retailer had me sign a waver to that effect. I originally brought it back because of the GPS problem before finding out how common the problem was and they basically said I could send it back to Asus but that could take months... or they could swap it with the next available unit - which, it turned out, ALSO took over a month.
By then I realised the swapping it wouldn't fix the GPS problem so I cancelled the repair request.
Fortunately - GPS aside, it's been working well (knock wood).
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Unfortunately, Asus shipped many of the first batches to smaller retailers with explicit 'no refund' policies. In fact, my retailer had me sign a waver to that effect. I originally brought it back because of the GPS problem before finding out how common the problem was and they basically said I could send it back to Asus but that could take months... or they could swap it with the next available unit - which, it turned out, ALSO took over a month.
By then I realised the swapping it wouldn't fix the GPS problem so I cancelled the repair request.
Fortunately - GPS aside, it's been working well (knock wood).
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I am refunding it through Asus, not a retailer.
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
I agree with you about poor quality in wifi, gps, nand and whatever... But I live in Italy and no one of our sellers (neither in other Europen country, as far as I know) has never talk about or agreed with costumers about refund or change with other working product. We had only to fight with asus assistance service that, sometimes, in really unusefull. Unless in Europe, gps issue was well know before comercialization, infact gps feature wasn't even mentioned so we cannot complain about this... Honeslty I didn't bought this tablet to use it like a pnd
But wifi, speed of nand, virtual keybord, are relly awfull....sometimes far from cheaper tablets sold by other manifacturer...or by the same Asus!
Now I'm tryimg to make understand to some dumb guy of asus assistance that I could not upgrade to latest firmware because my tablet don't show serial number anymore...and I haven't erase by mistake. It came back from Asus service without s/n, where I sent in rma 2 month ago. The only answer I had is that I have the last firmware..and this is obviously false!
Here none talk about a class action against Asus, but I hope you Canadian could be more lucky in your fight against Asus, that onceI considered one of the best brands
Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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I have encountered these RMA robots,you will never get anywhere with them.I emailed one of the lawyers on the casa and he said Asus would award us $17 for lack of GPS and give us a gps dongle. WOW I'm so excited .F******g assholes.
speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
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whycali said:
WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
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If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
Chrono_Tata said:
Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
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What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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speed4134 said:
Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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If you buy a car that has not air conditioned at all, or has a not working air conditioned and you know this before buying that car, than you can't complain with seller if you need in summer but it don't work.
But this, according to me, is not the worst issue in tf201...even if is not a good advertisement for asus and this tablet.
The worst are features that should have to work perfectly, wifi above all.
asus just doesn't give a damn about the customers,
we bought their $500 POS and pretty much they're going f-off now
i given up with the GPS and wifi issue
but my camera has been RMA twice for the same problem (green lines)
now it has happened again, clearly ASUS is doing something wrong and should fix the problem instead of patching it... so it'll break again down the road....
i emailed them all they did was offer RMA
after i explained to them that RMA is clearly not fixing the problem permanently, they ignored my emails since then
posted on their FB, they replied me going "we're sorry that you're unhappy about our product, is there anything i can help you with" i explain it to them, and they ignored me there
like wth is this service? -_-
1di9 said:
What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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It works fine meaning that you turn it on and it works if you are in a good range of your router. It gets weak when you move far away from it, but Asus never advertised their tablet to have the greatest WiFi strength. Does it make the Prime a bad tablet? Probably, but there is no legal case here, unlike the GPS which simply just didn't work to any acceptable degree, which Asus remedied with the dongle.
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speed4134 said:
If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
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in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
whycali said:
in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
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Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
speed4134 said:
Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
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Apparently you do not understand the title of this website. Developers do things that void warranties in order to bring out the best in the item they are working with. your comments belong here http://www.facebook.com/IHateAsusComputers with other non doing complainers. by the way 2 r's in warranty and no i's in wasted.