As you may (or may not) have already read, the HTC ReZound is becoming quite well known for it's secret global capabilities (for more info, visit the source thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341)
Despite being able to use this device on various other carriers worldwide, many people who are NOT Verizon Wireless customers have encountered many issues with network compatibility, the main one (in my opinion) being data usage.
Whilst the OP of the above thread has successfully enabled calling, text messages (receiving only) and data transfer for web browsing etc, many are still having trouble connecting to their 3G/4G service.
After much reading of the thread's comments, I came to the conclusion that some are not able to achieve a data connection because the device does not support their carrier's frequency band.
I noticed that a few fortunate users were able to do so simply because their carrier utilizes a UMTS 2100mhz frequency. All other bands appeared to be useless (for now).
That being said, my carrier's frequency band is indeed 2100mhz and is a UMTS network.
My suggestion (which is based merely on speculation) is that if your carrier does not support the aforementioned frequency on a UMTS network, then receiving a data connection may prove a lot trickier than just performing the connection methods in the above thread.
Below is a Wikipedia link to all the carries across the globe that are UMTS and their relevant frequency band.
2100mhz is what will work and I believe that all the current data success stories have been with 2100mhz (my own included).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
Any feedback on this would be great please as I am not a network wizard, however I feel this may be good for posterity.
Thank you for your time,
Jim
UPDATE (03/08/12)...
The following users have successfully acquired a 3G/H data service with their carrier. Coincidentally, their carriers are all UMTS, operating on a 2100mhz frequency band:
i rule123 (he's the one who figured it all out, go thank him!)
jimbo.levy (me)
kirasama1014
blueride
AlbPCWar
BrumBrum74
I'll add more as they come. If I missed you out, let me know!
I'll be in France for the next few weeks, and I am anxious to test this out. I have an Orange SIM card and their spectrum is 2100.
jcollier said:
I'll be in France for the next few weeks, and I am anxious to test this out. I have an Orange SIM card and their spectrum is 2100.
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In theory, it should work...I think. I had a little trouble getting mine to work at first. Neither of the methods stated in the original thread worked for me immediately but something happened this morning whilst I was travelling to work. I pulled my phone from my pocket to find that the data had suddenly started working and I've had an uninterrupted service ever since.
I'm not quite sure how and why it worked, but I'm not complaining.
Good luck with yours - I hope you have the same success that I am having
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I'll be in France for the next few weeks, and I am anxious to test this out. I have an Orange SIM card and their spectrum is 2100.
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Any success buddy?
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I have one more chance to get data tonight when Ieave my WiFi at the hotel. TIM is a 2100 band so I don't get why I'm not getting it. All you did was not touch your phone for 15 + mins after leaving your WiFi?
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I have one more chance to get data tonight when Ieave my WiFi at the hotel. TIM is a 2100 band so I don't get why I'm not getting it. All you did was not touch your phone for 15 + mins after leaving your WiFi?
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I couldn't tell you how I did it because I honestly don't know. I tried the methods that were suggested and none of them seemed to work. In the end I went to bed and left my WiFi connected all night. Upon leaving for work the next morning, I disabled the WiFi and immediately pocketed the phone. Just before I arrived, I took the phone from my pocket to switch it to "silent" only to notice that the data had started working. I have no idea how it did it but it did. The previous night, I played around with the phone info settings and switched to WCDMA, LTE, CDMA, Global and all the other options just to see what would happen. Nothing did at first.
I also toggled the DNS check to "allowed". Again, nothing happened at first but maybe it factored into it somehow?
I only wrote this article because the only data success stories have been on 2100mhz UMTS carriers. I put two and two together...
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Unfortunately did not work. Maybe its.something with TIM
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Unfortunately did not work. Maybe its.something with TIM
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Perhaps. I hope you can find a resolve. I've just learned of another data success story on an Albanian UMTS carrier that utilizes a 2100mhz frequency. Something has got to give soon...
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Finally got data!!! I got an H and 3g right as I got a call! So maybe receiving a call is another way to get data.
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Finally got data!!! I got an H and 3g right as I got a call! So maybe receiving a call is another way to get data.
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Fantastic news! I am definitely sure that 2100mhz UMTS networks are guaranteed to work with our device. I'll add a list of confirmed users to the original thread.
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Update in OP
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AT&T is secretly throttling all of its smartphone customers during phone calls. This was tested on several devices including the Galaxy Note.
http://thesmartphonechamp.com/att-secretly-throttling-their-smartphone-customers-video/
I noticed this the other day as well. I don't use data very often whole on a call, and when i noticed the slower speeds, I attributed it to where i was.
If this is true, its yet another reason to start hating on AT&T!!
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Probably correct.
Side Note: who is the author? He lost a lot of credibility on his silly commentary on tablets.
Ugh..... I wish I lived in an area with better tmobile coverage
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CradleRob said:
I noticed this the other day as well. I don't use data very often whole on a call, and when i noticed the slower speeds, I attributed it to where i was.
If this is true, its yet another reason to start hating on AT&T!!
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Yeah it's really noticeable when you do something try to send a picture message while on the phone. The upload speed is just crazy low.
No throtling being done here. From my understanding during a phone call lte simply cannot be used in conjunction with voice calling, so the LTE radio is turned off and voice is sent over hspa+(or whatever other bands its using) and data switches to HSPA+. So not neccesarily intentional throttling per say, just hardware and technological limitations. Once VoLTE is more common practice I'm sure this will change.
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No throtling being done here. From my understanding during a phone call lte simply cannot be used in conjunction with voice calling, so the LTE radio is turned off and voice is sent over hspa+(or whatever other bands its using) and data switches to HSPA+. So not neccesarily intentional throttling per say, just hardware and technological limitations. Once VoLTE is more common practice I'm sure this will change.
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Yeah, I noticed this also a while back.
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No throtling being done here. From my understanding during a phone call lte simply cannot be used in conjunction with voice calling, so the LTE radio is turned off and voice is sent over hspa+(or whatever other bands its using) and data switches to HSPA+. So not neccesarily intentional throttling per say, just hardware and technological limitations. Once VoLTE is more common practice I'm sure this will change.
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This. A member of these forums (Planoman, I think) apparently asked Lisa Gade directly about this based on a comment she made in a Note review and she confirmed it.
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No throtling being done here. From my understanding during a phone call lte simply cannot be used in conjunction with voice calling, so the LTE radio is turned off and voice is sent over hspa+(or whatever other bands its using) and data switches to HSPA+. So not neccesarily intentional throttling per say, just hardware and technological limitations. Once VoLTE is more common practice I'm sure this will change.
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That's not really true. If it were then the faster the connection you have, the faster your on call connection would be. If what you were saying was true then when I'm in an area that gets 9 megs during a call, I should get better on-call data speeds than if I was in an area with 2 megs. Instead regardless of if I'm in a 9 meg or 2 meg area, my data speeds during a call still instantly drop down to around 1 meg and the upload ALWAYS goes down to the 20k area (even if I'm in an area that gives me over 2 megs of upload. BTW, it wasn't always like this either. It isn't a limitation of technology, it's a limitation placed by AT&T, most likely to save spectrum. The crazy thing to me is they air these talk and surf commercials but you can barely do it now. If you compare it to Tmobile, it's like night and day.
I saw that the other day when I was on a call. Thought I was just in a bad area. Just tested on my coworkers note while he's on a call, same thing. Lame.
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No throtling being done here. From my understanding during a phone call lte simply cannot be used in conjunction with voice calling, so the LTE radio is turned off and voice is sent over hspa+(or whatever other bands its using) and data switches to HSPA+. So not neccesarily intentional throttling per say, just hardware and technological limitations. Once VoLTE is more common practice I'm sure this will change.
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How is it a hardware and technology limitation if the SAME PHONES perform DIFFERENTLY on different networks using the same technology?
Ok some of you guys really need to research more about how AT&T's 4G lte network works lol,Lte is purely for data so when not on a call the phone will sit on the lte band but the moment you make or receive a call the network hands off the phone to a hspa, hspa+ or edge (connection if the other 2 3g connections hspa or hspa+ is not available) . Once the call is done the phone should switch back to the preferred lte connection. Currently not being able to make voice calls over lte is a limitation by the tech, once voice over ip is ready to be implemented on lte then we're good to go.
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I can confirm this on my Note. I thought it was just an odd quirk for me but I'm partially glad to hear it affects everyone. On my old HSPA phone I could maintain 2-3 Gbps at home even while on a call - useful for work so I could be on a conference call while also remoting to my work computer's desktop. Now when I'm on a voice call the data connection becomes nearly useless. I may have to switch back to my old phone next time I need to do this - which is ridiculous!
So even if a phone call does force you onto HSPA, they are still throttling you far below the available bandwidth.
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Ok some of you guys really need to research more about how AT&T's 4G lte network works lol,Lte is purely for data so when not on a call the phone will sit on the lte band but the moment you make or receive a call the network hands off the phone to a hspa, hspa+ or edge (connection if the other 2 3g connections hspa or hspa+ is not available) . Once the call is done the phone should switch back to the preferred lte connection. Currently not being able to make voice calls over lte is a limitation by the tech, once voice over ip is ready to be implemented on lte then we're good to go.
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This issue has nothing to do with LTE though. I know I saw someone earlier in the thread bring it up, but that has no bearing on what we're experiencing.
I noticed the same thing as well last week when I would make calls. LTE shuts off, 4G kicks in for calls. Hang up, LTE turns back on. Just like Verizon's no data while talking its simply a hardware limitation on the network for now.
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I noticed the same thing as well last week when I would make calls. LTE shuts off, 4G kicks in for calls. Hang up, LTE turns back on. Just like Verizon's no data while talking its simply a hardware limitation on the network for now.
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From what I've experienced it goes beyond just kicking you down to the HSPA network.
They definitely changed this. Tested this extensively when the skyrocket came out
The hardware is not capable of both seperate radios operating at the same time and voice over lte has not been implemented.
Plain and simple.
When you make a call the lte radio goes idle. The hspa (3g and hspa+) radio activates
Speeds during call should be the equivelant of speeds achieved with a 3g phone...like we confirmed with a gs2 Back then
Now though
Slow speeds while on a call
tested 3g speeds...added the phone apn and select it. It may or may not work but if it works it will lock you onto 3g briefly enough to do a speed test. Compare that to your in call tests. or use a 3g only phone To get a comparison test IN REAL TIME
Technically att could begin throttling but it could be network issues as well.
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From what I've experienced it goes beyond just kicking you down to the HSPA network.
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Scratch everything i said...they have obviously changed this since those tests we did. In call Speeds come in at 600 kbps and no upload at all and out of call 3+ mbps
Althouh slow...600 mbps should load pages etc...but it isnt.
Definitely something screwy going on. ..time to call att again
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Tested this extensively when the skyrocket came out.
The hardware is not capable of both seperate radios operating at the same time and voice over lte has not been implemented.
Plain and simple.
When you make a call the lte radio goes idle. The hspa (3g and hspa+) radio activates
Speeds during call should be the equivelant of speeds achieved with a 3g phone...like we confirmed with a gs2
So...if you have slow speeds while on a call either the 3g network is having issues or the 3g speeds suck there. You absolutely will not achieve lte speeds in a call.
If you want to test 3g speeds...add the phone apn and select it. It may or may not work but if it works it will lock you onto 3g briefly enough to do a speed test. Compare that to your in call tests. or use a 3g only phone To get a comparison test IN REAL TIME...dont go off of crap you were doing with a phone 3 weeks ago. We all know the att network is not that consistant.
Technically att could begin throttling based on the pta apn. ..but so far our testing shows exactly what I described above
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That's what I was talking about. I could live with a fallback to HSPA until they implement voice on LTE, but the results are much slower than that.
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Ok some of you guys really need to research more about how AT&T's 4G lte network works lol,Lte is purely for data so when not on a call the phone will sit on the lte band but the moment you make or receive a call the network hands off the phone to a hspa, hspa+ or edge (connection if the other 2 3g connections hspa or hspa+ is not available) . Once the call is done the phone should switch back to the preferred lte connection. Currently not being able to make voice calls over lte is a limitation by the tech, once voice over ip is ready to be implemented on lte then we're good to go.
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Perhaps YOU should do a little more research...I assure you I am not a ROOKIE when it comes to these things. I have known for a fact that people were able to surf and talk on AT&T's network in the past without any problems. Now internet is practically UNUSABLE while on a call. Pages wont even load. There is something very underhanded going on.
Even by your own statement the phone should revert to 3g speeds while a call is being placed so why are speeds equivalent to EDGE/Dial Up when people have adequate signal strenght?
UPDATE: This worked well for a short time but now reverts back to the up sell page. My only guess is T-Mo caught on and shut us out; YMMV.
I searched the forum and didn't see this, although I may have missed it. Just wanted to share in case it hasn't been posted or for anyone that may not know.
[Disclaimer: I have no idea if this will inevitably result in a loss of service, so don't blame me if that happens! Proceed at your own risk.]
I recently got a T-Mo prepaid SIM to use with my unlocked i777, as AT&T's coverage where I work is basically nonexistent. I had a rep set me up with the $15/month unlimited text plan which I quickly realized has no web access included (not even pay per MB lol). This was confirmed by opening the browser and being greeted by a T-Mo upsell page.
Okay, so... after some digging around and trying different APN settings, I found a workaround:
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Username: TMobile.com 0000000000 (use your phone # in place of 0000000000)
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
APN type: Internet+MMS
After saving and selecting the new APN, I now have data! Confirmed this by loading multiple pages in the browser. It may be slow, but it's still nice to have available for the times when you really need it!
Cool trick, did you do any speed tests?
it would be edge (2g) speeds because this phones 3g and 4g (hspa) radios are built for att frequencies only, but att and T-Mobile share the same 2g frequency.
Still working internet is working internet. Good find.
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ryude said:
Cool trick, did you do any speed tests?
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No, I didn't even think about that at the time. As stated above, it'll only be Edge speeds. I'm not sure it would be any faster even if our phone supported the proper bands, since it's using the WAP APN meant for cheapo feature phones.
If data could be fix to use 3g I would go pick up a Sim and only use T-Mobile. Att keeps getting more and more expensive.
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willbs94 said:
If data could be fix to use 3g I would go pick up a Sim and only use T-Mobile. Att keeps getting more and more expensive.
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This phone is physically and technically incapable of using 3g on T-Mobile.
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estxxas said:
I recently got a T-Mo prepaid SIM to use with my unlocked i777, as AT&T's coverage where I work is basically nonexistent. I had a rep set me up with the $15/month unlimited text plan...
After saving and selecting the new APN, I now have data! Confirmed this by loading multiple pages in the browser. It may be slow, but it's still nice to have available for the times when you really need it!
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This might sound silly, but if anyone knows... 1.) Does there need to be a working Tmo card in the phone w/ that APN (vs. att card), 2.) Does it need to have recurring services or could any purchased prepaid Tmo card be swapped into the 777 in an emergency?
I ask b/c AT$T data services blow in my area and I currently have a network data block to avoid paying for said unusable services...I'm curious if this would work in an emergency on the road or if it's likely that Tmo data is as bad as AT$T's.
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lo-fi_engineer said:
1.) Does there need to be a working Tmo card in the phone w/ that APN (vs. att card), 2.) Does it need to have recurring services or could any purchased prepaid Tmo card be swapped into the 777 in an emergency?
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An (educated) guess tells me 1. Yes, you would need to have the T-Mo SIM in when using the APN. And 2. I would imagine so, since your phone number is used as the Username in the APN, and I'm sure their network identifies the request as either coming from an active/inactive account.
So, if i can use 3g 4g only with AT&T, how come mine is working with Tim (brazilian carrier) ?
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No one said that. Learn to read.
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Hmmmm interesting. I am on Tmobile but not a prepaid card. I'm tempted to try this but don't want to get hit with data charges after...
Bethrezen1453 said:
So, if i can use 3g 4g only with AT&T, how come mine is working with Tim (brazilian carrier) ?
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It's not only with AT&T. AT&T and T-mobile use different bands for 3g. Obviously TIM uses the same bands as AT&T.
Is this still working for anybody? All of a sudden I started getting the web2go error page.
And since upgrading to CM9, I don't even get that anymore. I get Unable to connect to the Internet. No edge logo up top or anything.
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it would be edge (2g) speeds because this phones 3g and 4g (hspa) radios are built for att frequencies only, but att and T-Mobile share the same 2g frequency.
Still working internet is working internet. Good find.
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Not quite correct - AT&T and international frequencies. Basically everything but AWS1700 (T-Mo)
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Same thing is happening on my end. Guess T-Mo is on to us.
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This may be a total noob question, but that's because I am indeed a noob when it comes to this. A bit of history about my Optimus One: I got it on the internets and I believe it is for Portugal's Vodafone, as suggested by the default APN. This thing runs the original Android 2.2 and I did not bother to root it.
Recently I got the T-mobile's six months of free data promo (I'm in Boulder, CO) and all I get is a whopping 120 kbps downstream. All settings seem to be according to T-mobile's "official" info. Tech support told me that everything is peachy on their end, but my phone is "not supported" and I need to get a "supported" one from T-mobile.
Is this the case, or is it merely a matter of installing a ROM/app that unlocks the proper band for data? I am not really afraid to play with this phone, because in the very worst case I could actually get one from T-mobile. Also, because I have no contract, I could move to another provider, so there's some freedom. Thoughts?
nedomacho said:
Recently I got the T-mobile's six months of free data promo (I'm in Boulder, CO) and all I get is a whopping 120 kbps downstream. All settings seem to be according to T-mobile's "official" info. Tech support told me that everything is peachy on their end, but my phone is "not supported" and I need to get a "supported" one from T-mobile.
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You have 3G data enabled? 3G available in your area? The tech support "advise" is complete crap.
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You have 3G data enabled? 3G available in your area? The tech support "advise" is complete crap.
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3G enabled on the phone? I don't see anything beyond "enable data" and when it's enabled, there's an "E" next to the sign at the top of the screen.
Yeah, 3G does cover this area and the t-mobile rep claims the setup on their end is right.
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3G enabled on the phone? I don't see anything beyond "enable data" and when it's enabled, there's an "E" next to the sign at the top of the screen.
Yeah, 3G does cover this area and the t-mobile rep claims the setup on their end is right.
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Well, E is EDGE (which is just a bit faster GPRS), no wonder it is slow. You need H (as in HSDPA). If there's no way to enable 3G on Froyo (strongly suspect you just need to look harder), then upgrade the ROM!
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If there's no way to enable 3G on Froyo (strongly suspect you just need to look harder), then upgrade the ROM!
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Well, I see nothing about 3G under mobile network settings... network mode 'GSM/WCDMA auto', tried with and without data roaming enabled, APN set up as the t-mobile website suggests... Am I looking in the wrong place?
Also, could this be related? Which I guess could effectively mean the tech support was right...
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Well, I see nothing about 3G under mobile network settings... network mode 'GSM/WCDMA auto', tried with and without data roaming enabled, APN set up as the t-mobile website suggests... Am I looking in the wrong place?
Also, could this be related? Which I guess could effectively mean the tech support was right...
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1/ HSDPA definitely worked for me with Froyo. (No, I will not flash such junk again to verify, being on ICS now)
2/ There has been a GB update available for over a year. Why do not you upgrade?
3/ Normal european P500 specs are
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 900/2100 MHz
Sorry, no idea what T-Mobile uses somewhere in CO. US T-Mobile has been selling this very same phone branded as LG Optimus T.
nedomacho said:
This may be a total noob question, but that's because I am indeed a noob when it comes to this. A bit of history about my Optimus One: I got it on the internets and I believe it is for Portugal's Vodafone, as suggested by the default APN. This thing runs the original Android 2.2 and I did not bother to root it.
Recently I got the T-mobile's six months of free data promo (I'm in Boulder, CO) and all I get is a whopping 120 kbps downstream. All settings seem to be according to T-mobile's "official" info. Tech support told me that everything is peachy on their end, but my phone is "not supported" and I need to get a "supported" one from T-mobile.
Is this the case, or is it merely a matter of installing a ROM/app that unlocks the proper band for data? I am not really afraid to play with this phone, because in the very worst case I could actually get one from T-mobile. Also, because I have no contract, I could move to another provider, so there's some freedom. Thoughts?
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You dont need to flash any ROM if only thing you want is high speed internet..
First call the customer care and ask whether its a 3G pack that you got or normal
GPRS/EDGE. If its EDGE then its the maximum speed you going to get..
if its a 3G pack.. go to settings and select ONLY WCDMA and ask them to send you
3G settings too. Well i Activated 3G and got APN settings automatically.
Do ask customer care if your area has 3G coverage!!
T-Mobile does not support the European 3G bands in your area. In certain metropolitan areas you will get a 2100MHZ signal on T-Mobile, but most of the time you will be getting incompatible frequencies hence the need to use EDGE (2G aka the E which is much slower than 3G).
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Thanks guys.
I think several responses are due to the fact that I did not make my location clear: I am in the US and the phone was originally for a European provider. I did confirm with the customer service that I am supposed to have a 3G/4G connection.
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T-Mobile does not support the European 3G bands in your area. In certain metropolitan areas you will get a 2100MHZ signal on T-Mobile, but most of the time you will be getting incompatible frequencies hence the need to use EDGE (2G aka the E which is much slower than 3G).
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I'll have a chance to test it in Chicago next week.
I suppose the frequency incompatibility is at the hardware level and changing the ROM wouldn't help. Can you confirm this? I am ready to flash cyanogenmod (or whatever you guys can suggest), but if this is a hardware issue, there's no point, is there?
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Thanks guys.
I think several responses are due to the fact that I did not make my location clear: I am in the US and the phone was originally for a European provider. I did confirm with the customer service that I am supposed to have a 3G/4G connection.
I'll have a chance to test it in Chicago next week.
I suppose the frequency incompatibility is at the hardware level and changing the ROM wouldn't help. Can you confirm this? I am ready to flash cyanogenmod (or whatever you guys can suggest), but if this is a hardware issue, there's no point, is there?
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Yes, you can't just change frequencies by just flashing another ROM. It is hardware related
Hey yall I just wanted to start a discussion thread for T-Mobile like me who are braving T-Mobile's refarmed network and using the HTC One X+ (International or unlocked AT&T variant). Maybe we can get a few tips and tricks together to make our user experience a bit better.
For example, such radios yall are using, any build.prop edits that might help data speeds or GPS locking speed (if you are using the international version like I am).
Ill update the OP with the list of suggestions, maybe an FAQ.
I've been using the Phone Info app to turn off the LTE radio, although I'm not entirely sure that is does. I use the GSM auto mode which is the default on 3G non LTE phones. The default on the One X+ is GSM/WCDMA/LTE
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
cb474 said:
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
rashad1 said:
Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
cb474 said:
Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Yep, my Nexus 4 gets constant HSPA+ where I get spotty PCS
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
jd317 said:
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
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Well I cut my sim from a regular SIM card so there aren't really numbers on it. I think you'll be safer with a newer one than an older one so you're fine.
Also located in Houston and getting pretty good 3G
I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
I believe one of the reasons TMO has to go with lower power at first is to measure the impact of their new 1900mhz spectrum usage in the existing market in question. Since other carriers are using the same spectrum they need to make sure they do not cause interference. The best way to do that is short and long term RF studies. Start off with a refarmed freq at lower power then over time bump up the power and make sure it doesnt cause any new interference. If so then your able to go to a higher power. Im sure the FCC has time constraints for this but add into it the amount of towers im sure the carrier would rather accomplish more with each visit. So if an upgrade or tweek is needed then they can also adjust the power.
Forgot to add i recently acquired the ATT version of the HTC ONE X+ 64GB and it does ok in the Dallas area. Had it switch a few times to G and E but for the most part i stays on 4G. HSPA+21.6 DL speeds go between 2megs down and 9 megs down.
Prior to that i was using a Nexus 4 and TMO GS3. I seem to have better speeds with my GS3.
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I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
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The forums have been like that for a while (at least months). Don't know why. Perhaps you can email the person who writes the blog and ask about it.
I live in the Orlando area, I am on Straight Talk. I was using an at&t compatible SIM from straight talk and got up to 7mb down and 1.5mb up but these speeds were not consistent, a few days ago I switched to a t -mobile compatible SIM from straight talk and now I get consistent 12mb down and 3mb up. I was very surprised! I'm so glad I did this switch
I am using an at&t 1X+ which I unlocked.
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All, nice threat. just got this phone and unlocked the bootloader today. how can i unlock the simcard to use on tmo? i know we have LTE here and I am dying to see what kind of speeds i can get on this phone. thanks all
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So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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acejavelin said:
So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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I thought this wasn't necessary anymore with current radios and firmware?
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I think it is. I'm not 100% but I guess you'll see when you use your sim card.
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The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
El Schisne said:
The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
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I don't think anyone is going to find a way to optimize it for a stable connection for a while. The thread has been very quiet for a while now. Some users did get different results and I read through the thread and some people got better signal using a calibrated sensation nv file.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Pretty sure I got everything right. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get everything to work on 2g , and I was able to pull an IP address when it said HSPA, I just couldn't stay connected or get any data through. Spent about 2 or 3 hours working on it this afternoon and finally gave up.
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That sucks man. Thanks for trying and posting your results though. I've been curious about doing this myself.
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I've been saving up for the nexus 4 but they might release a new nexus device . If you're eager to get a device , I would get the nexus 4 plus you can do some stuff to enable the lte radio. hecks yeah.
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