Why did you buy a tablet without 3g that has a large emphasis on gaming and runs on android?
In order to properly use this in the feild or at a job, you'd probably need a 4g hotspot anyway, and as far as I understand aGPS works fine on the tf prime.
I am trying to envision a situation where an important business man on xda-developers needs his gps always but not internet access. Surely he wouldn't need it for driving to the office every morning.
The only job I can think of is a pizza delivery driver. And even then a delivery driver should know how to navigate in his area, perhaps not street numbers, but not usually a huge deal that you need to whip out the gps for.
So is xda full of angry dominos employees? The best plan in my opinion is to buy a clearwire 4g hotspot or something similar if you have a job that demands it. It's cheaper than a data plan would be on at&t or verizon, you get better battery, you get higher speeds, and its makes your tablet more useful. Even with the 3g/LTE transformer coming this year, 3g is very slow, and LTE is usually very expensive and battery demanding. A 4g hotspot would still be the best option, not just for your transformer - but ALL your devices.
I see your point but its a funny post. you might of opened a can of worms here..lol. you might want to re-word what you wrote. expect some harsh responses to come with several reasons to add to your pizza delivery scenario.
You're funny.
Search and Rescue, hasty search. Large screen, viewable outdoors, cached maps and/or tethered to phone and a battery that lasts all day. iPad worked, but was really hard to see in daylight.
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ickkii said:
Why did you buy a tablet without 3g that has a large emphasis on gaming and runs on android?
In order to properly use this in the feild or at a job, you'd probably need a 4g hotspot anyway, and as far as I understand aGPS works fine on the tf prime.
I am trying to envision a situation where an important business man on xda-developers needs his gps always but not internet access. Surely he wouldn't need it for driving to the office every morning.
The only job I can think of is a pizza delivery driver. And even then a delivery driver should know how to navigate in his area, perhaps not street numbers, but not usually a huge deal that you need to whip out the gps for.
So is xda full of angry dominos employees? The best plan in my opinion is to buy a clearwire 4g hotspot or something similar if you have a job that demands it. It's cheaper than a data plan would be on at&t or verizon, you get better battery, you get higher speeds, and its makes your tablet more useful. Even with the 3g/LTE transformer coming this year, 3g is very slow, and LTE is usually very expensive and battery demanding. A 4g hotspot would still be the best option, not just for your transformer - but ALL your devices.
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Let me know when you find someone who has very well working aGPS Prime. Because, as far as I know.. those who are tethering smartphone to PRIME is using Bluetooth GPS... which means, they are using the GPS from their smartphone.. not the PRIME.
Don't even feel like describing GPS, aGPS, & GEO-Location.....
And you probably want to delete/edit out the rest of your statement...
Just do the beer can gps fix! I'm sure they all drink on their business trips
I'm on my third Prime. GPS on this one works untethered. And here's another:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524089
@OP: Haters gonna hate. Thats the way it is People always find something to nag about. Thats human nature so to speak
Even I'm getting tired of the "debate"... And GPS was a deciding factor for me originally.
This is all I have to say to those who say GPS functions at all in the Prime like it should (I realize some are exceptions... but I don't think the majority of people are doing so well)...
Please take notice the Prime has WiFi on, and the phone is in freaking Airplane mode!
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So unless I want my geo-tagging to be 36 - 138 feet off, it does not even work for location!
And I've had my Prime apart, with an external antenna I get 16-18 birds in view with 15 in use.
I'll mod, but damn do I empathize with all those who just want to buy a device and the damn thing work like it was advertised to.
The reason I want fully functioning GPS is because, when I purchased mine, it said "GPS" ! Nowhere did it mention "So-So GPS" , "Limited GPS" or "Craptacular GPS" but, "GPS" !
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Even I'm getting tired of the "debate"... And GPS was a deciding factor for me originally.
This is all I have to say to those who say GPS functions at all in the Prime like it should (I realize some are exceptions... but I don't think the majority of people are doing so well)...
Please take notice the Prime has WiFi on, and the phone is in freaking Airplane mode!
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buxtahuda said:
Even I'm getting tired of the "debate"... And GPS was a deciding factor for me originally.
This is all I have to say to those who say GPS functions at all in the Prime like it should (I realize some are exceptions... but I don't think the majority of people are doing so well)...
Please take notice the Prime has WiFi on, and the phone is in freaking Airplane mode!
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So what did you prove, besides the fact that you have no idea how GPS works ?
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So what did you prove, besides the fact that you have no idea how GPS works ?
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Do enlighten me, oh great wizard :bow:
I know that with data on, the Prime's aGPS should fly fine. And doesn't.
And I know that with it off (I don't think my phone is aGPS, is it? -*EDIT: it is, but has standalone capabilities) on my phone, it still flies...
But really, sarcasm aside, please beat the understanding into my hard ass skull!
Since when did this become a businessmen thing? Pretty sure the Prime's target audience were not businessmen.
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Do enlighten me, oh great wizard :bow:
I know that with data on, the Prime's aGPS should fly fine. And doesn't.
And I know that with it off (I don't think my phone is aGPS, is it? -*EDIT: it is, but has standalone capabilities) on my phone, it still flies...
But really, sarcasm aside, please beat the understanding into my hard ass skull!
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I took your post to read that the ATP GPS reception signal strength would be affected by having your WiFi turned on. The 'WiFi' portion of
(a)ssisted GPS simply tells the GPS processor which satellites should be overhead in the 'general' area location determined by WiFi location. After that point the GPS is completely on it's own to determine which satellites it should be paying attention too (via info in the GPS signal stream). If there is no WiFi to (a)ssist the GPS processor, it finds out which satellites are overhead and keeps track of the ever-changing 12 satellites that it could possibly 'see'... all by itself-as does every other GPS does without the benefit of WiFi assistance. The 'WiFi' part of the equation simply speeds the initial acquisition of satellite signal. You can repeat your test on your ATP with WiFi turned off (test from ATP being completely powered off)...other than the ATP taking longer to acquire satellite signals, you'll find no difference in signal strength--your test may have different signal strengths due to different weather, different satellites, and different satellite locations--all of which are BIG variables in the level of signal reception.
Why Asus decided that a 'fix' to the ATP's GPS issues was to tie WiFi engagement to the GPS being activated was not a 'fix' in the least.
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Wifi 'assist' gives the GPS 'coarse' location info at beginning of signal acquisition.
Never set the sarcasm aside; we all need more!
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I took your post to read that the ATP GPS reception signal strength would be affected by having your WiFi turned on. The 'WiFi' portion of
(a)ssisted GPS simply tells the GPS processor which satellites should be overhead in the 'general' area location determined by WiFi location. After that point the GPS is completely on it's own to determine which satellites it should be paying attention too (via info in the GPS signal stream). If there is no WiFi to (a)ssist the GPS processor, it finds out which satellites are overhead and keeps track of the ever-changing 12 satellites that it could possibly 'see'... all by itself-as does every other GPS does without the benefit of WiFi assistance. The 'WiFi' part of the equation simply speeds the initial acquisition of satellite signal. You can repeat your test on your ATP with WiFi turned off (test from ATP being completely powered off)...other than the ATP taking longer to acquire satellite signals, you'll find no difference in signal strength--your test may have different signal strengths due to different weather, different satellites, and different satellite locations--all of which are BIG variables in the level of signal reception.
Why Asus decided that a 'fix' to the ATP's GPS issues was to tie WiFi engagement to the GPS being activated was not a 'fix' in the least.
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Wifi 'assist' gives the GPS 'coarse' location info at beginning of signal acquisition.
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Huh? In the end.. all you did was... "yes buxtahuda, Prime's GPS sucks... "
And basically went over.. you can't have aGPS without GPS to begin with...
Yeah, lol.
I guess let me expand.
The phone locked on in airplane mode in two seconds. I could see 2 satellites under a metal roof.
Same day as the phone, just a bit after. This took three minutes... This does not change too much with WiFi on, cuts it down a bit above half.
On a side note, not only did .15 introduce my first random reboot. It is now giving me my very first graphical glitches on the OS level.. How lovely
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Huh? In the end.. all you did was... "yes buxtahuda, Prime's GPS sucks... "
And basically went over.. you can't have aGPS without GPS to begin with...
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Actually ATP has one of the newest GPS reception chips out there, has both US and Russian GPS satellite reception, and reading through Erusmans (sp?) modifications, proves that with a decent antenna design the thing does VERY well. And my point was valid that WiFi on or off GPS signal strength is the same--Buxtahuda said that his ATP prime with WiFi on was weaker in comparison to his phone with WiFi off (airplane mode)--my point was there was no meaning in the WiFi component. There are different forms of what is referred to as aGPS... more marketing malarky, but yes, in marketing terms, you can have aGPS without GPS--as Asus proved, if it isn't marketed as a device with GPS, there is no problem with that functionality being completely neutered by having a beautiful back cover plate.
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The reason I want fully functioning GPS is because, when I purchased mine, it said "GPS" ! Nowhere did it mention "So-So GPS" , "Limited GPS" or "Craptacular GPS" but, "GPS" !
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I simply don't understand that argument.
It almost sounds like (and I am probably wrong here) but you really have an issue with the poor GPS even though its something you'd never use on your Prime.
I have poor GPS. I couldn't care less if the box it came in had "world's best GPS device" in huge letters. I neither want, need or care for GPS on a tablet.
But perhaps you do need GPS for some reason - business navigation maybe? Do you not have GPS and navigation on your phone or tomtom?
Oh and technically nowhere did it ever say "fully functioning GPS". It states GPS, and that's what its got. But I'm just being picky.
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I simply don't understand that argument.
It almost sounds like (and I am probably wrong here) but you really have an issue with the poor GPS even though its something you'd never use on your Prime.
I have poor GPS. I couldn't care less if the box it came in had "world's best GPS device" in huge letters. I neither want, need or care for GPS on a tablet.
But perhaps you do need GPS for some reason - business navigation maybe? Do you not have GPS and navigation on your phone or tomtom?
Oh and technically nowhere did it ever say "fully functioning GPS". It states GPS, and that's what its got. But I'm just being picky.
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No, IMO you're being kind of a callous douche (pardon me).
That doesn't make everything OK, just because you're OK and can rationalize away full functionality.
I've stated it before, there's kind of an expected function for all these. That is, even though mileage will most definitely vary, any Android device I pick up should act relatively the same. If one says GPS and can locate and navigate, and then many others also do it and list the spec similarly, then why should this one be allowed to perform so far below par. I mean, on the best day location still thinks I'm somewhere I'm not, and I don't even bother with navigation because the few locks will quickly vanish.
Don't say you have a new TV and then show me a 50" CRT that takes up a cubic meter.
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You will need another tablet, laptop, or smartphone with wifi to do this test I have done the test with two primes on 4 different routers all with the same result the primes drop/lose the WiFi signal to all the routers 5-15 ft before other WiFi devices.
To do the test simply keep walking your non prime WiFi device away from your router until you find it drops the signal you may need to keep refreshing available Wifi networks when it drops off this is the deadspot then find the area where your other WiFi devices will connect but with only 1 signal strength once you find this spot see if the Prime will pickup the WiFi network in this same spot I have not been able to on 4 different routers the range is always weaker with the Prime.
Dude, do you think we don't got enough topics about this?
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Dude, do you think we don't got enough topics about this?
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Actually no there is no poll for this only the GPS it would be nice to know if some Primes might have a different WiFi adapter.
For the people saying their Primes WiFi is just as good please list the model # of your routers.
I've done a similar test. after reading wifi issues I made sure to test mines. my prime wifi range is on par or even better in some instances than my Ipad 1. you have to remember also that router/network settings might be affecting Prime. they was a guy in another thread that his prime was getting slower speeds than his PC and phone. he eliminated the problem down to his router. his router was dual broadcasting with one being the 5Ghz channel that prime doesn't support. sometimes this messes with primes reception or whatever or download/upload speeds. so he cut off the 5ghz channel. now his Prime consistently gets same download speeds and range as his other devices. also wifi strength fluctuates no matter what device. there was times where my prime pulled alot faster download speeds than my Ipad.
I think this is a good test though to test reception strength. if other devices are android, you could easily just use wifi analyzer app to see n hear the strength of signal. remember though, eliminate all variables before just blaming the product. because network/router settings can have major impact on wifi performance.
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demandarin said:
I've done a similar test. after reading wifi issues I made sure to test mines. my prime wifi range is on par or even better in some instances than my Ipad 1. you have to remember also that router/network settings might be affecting Prime. they was a guy in another thread that his prime was getting slower speeds than his PC and phone. he eliminated the problem down to his router. his router was dual broadcasting with one being the 5Ghz channel that prime doesn't support. sometimes this messes with primes reception or whatever or download/upload speeds. so he cut off the 5ghz channel. now his Prime consistently gets same download speeds and range as his other devices. also wifi strength fluctuates no matter what device. there was times where my prime pulled alot faster download speeds than my Ipad.
I think this is a good test though to test reception strength. if other devices are android, you could easily just use wifi analyzer app to see n hear the strength of signal. remember though, eliminate all variables before just blaming the product. because network/router settings can have major impact on wifi performance.
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apps are great but nothing is more accurate then simple real world tests of where the WiFi signal totally drops out with another WiFi device then seeing if te Prime hits the same range. As far as variables and different routers etc I agree with you but my tests on 4 different routers have showed conclusively that my Primes WiFi range falls short of 5 different WiFi devices I tested (2 smartphones, 2 laptops, and a smartphone).
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apps are great but nothing is more accurate then simple real world tests of where the WiFi signal totally drops out with another WiFi device then seeing if te Prime hits the same range. As far as variables and different routers etc I agree with you but my tests on 4 different routers have showed conclusively that my Primes WiFi range falls short of 5 different WiFi devices I tested (2 smartphones, 2 laptops, and a smartphone).
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while this may prove true for your situation, your poll shows a far greater margin of people having NO wifi issues. in case you haven't noticed..lol
demandarin said:
while this may prove true for your situation, your poll shows a far greater margin of people having NO wifi issues. in case you haven't noticed..lol
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Id also be willing to bet my paycheck they didnt do the test properly if at all. People who are just voting based on the fact that they can connect to their WiFi network in their home with no problem and while the WiFi issue is not a very big deal because its only 10 ft or so range difference it still shows the aluminum backing is probably the reason for the slightly weaker WiFi signal not because ASUS found a problem with a perticular WiFi adapter and started putting different WiFi adapters in the Primes.
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Id also be willing to bet my paycheck they didnt do the test properly if at all. People who are just voting based on the fact that they can connect to their WiFi network in their home with no problem and while the WiFi issue is not a very big deal because its only 10 ft or so range difference it still shows the aluminum backing is probably the reason for the slightly weaker WiFi signal not because ASUS found a problem with a perticular WiFi adapter and started putting different WiFi adapters in the Primes.
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why is it always when something negative about the prime, people think they 100% correct or something? but as soon as we counter with the positives, its like oh No, we nor doing it right or testing it right. lmao. that's funny
I still think this a good real world test. its definitely going in favor of prime not having a wifi issue now
Shut up you made a poll people voted that it works you got a faulty device exchange it thread closed
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why is it always when something negative about the prime, people think they 100% correct or something? but as soon as we counter with the positives, its like oh No, we nor doing it right or testing it right. lmao. that's funny
I still think this a good real world test. its definitely going in favor of prime not having a wifi issue now
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Damn noobs on this forum do nothing but troll
tylermaciaszek said:
Shut up you made a poll people voted that it works you got a faulty device exchange it thread closed
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Damn noobs on this forum do nothing but troll
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Same for you. You're the one who is aggressive when someone says something about the Prime.
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Shut up you made a poll people voted that it works you got a faulty device exchange it thread closed
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I dont think you even bothered to read or understand what I am saying so I will rephrase it. The Prime does not have a WiFi problem it simply has a slightly lower range then other WiFi devices again this is not a concern people should be worried about stop getting your panties in a bunch.
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Same for you. You're the one who is aggressive when someone says something about the Prime.
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I'm not aggressive I'm just suck of these new people making the same threads and fighting about issues we already solved or know or unsolvable
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I dont think you even bothered to read or understand what I am saying so I will rephrase it. The Prime does not have a WiFi problem it simply has a slightly lower range then other WiFi devices again this is not a concern people should be worried about stop getting your panties in a bunch.
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I understood just fine what you were saying but others don't seem to have this problem now do they? and we have multiple wifi threads open this thread is useless
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I'm not aggressive I'm just suck of these new people making the same threads and fighting about issues we already solved or know or unsolvable
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I understood just fine what you were saying but others don't seem to have this problem now do they? and we have multiple wifi threads open this thread is useless
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care to provide a link to the thread that discusses specifically the WiFi RANGE of the Prime because I cant find it I think you just get butt hurt when you think someone is saying anything negative at all about the Prime.
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5-15 ft before other WiFi devices.
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Oh. My. God. Im so glad someone found this out before I ordered mine. That 5 to 15 feet is the difference of it working at my apartment complex pool. well, not the whole pool. It'll work at the chairs on the north end, but they get crappy sunlight after 3pm which is when I like to get my tanning in. if I cant get wifi at the north chairs, and only at the south chairs, im afraid this thing is just not worth the metal its made out of....
#FirstWorldProblems
p.s. this was almost entirely sarcasm.
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Oh. My. God. Im so glad someone found this out before I ordered mine. That 5 to 15 feet is the difference of it working at my apartment complex pool. well, not the whole pool. It'll work at the chairs on the north end, but they get crappy sunlight after 3pm which is when I like to get my tanning in. if I cant get wifi at the north chairs, and only at the south chairs, im afraid this thing is just not worth the metal its made out of....
#FirstWorldProblems
p.s. this was almost entirely sarcasm.
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You would be surprised how big of a deal this could actually be to some people it could be the difference between being able to use your tablet in your kitchen to being able to lay in your bed and use it obviously every situation is different but it would be very possible..... Luckily though they make things called range extenders and or repeaters that can be setup to repeat the WiFi signal to cover any deadspots you might have in your house..... I personally recommend the EnGenious range extender that can be found on Newegg for $40 if anyone is interested
I tested again today at a public WiFi hotspot from my car I think this confirms the backing is the reason the GPS doesnt work properly.
Well, my TF101 is really poor at getting signal from my router, much worse than any other WiFi device I have. f TF201 has even worse WiFi I'm glad I haven't bought it.
This sucks. I want to keep this tablet. I really do. They're just making it so hard to justify it. The GPS issue stinks, but I really don't care about GPS on a tablet, so I'm fine with that. The WIFI, on the other hand, is very important. I was in denial that there was really an issue with it, as general browsing in my small apartment is fine, but I got around to doing some tests today, and I am not pleased.
Using the speedtest.net app, I consistently get about 15-20 Mbps on my iPad1, 8-15 Mbps on my Galaxy Nexus, and about 3-5 Mbps on my Transformer Prime. Yuck.
In addition to that, I tested by transferring a large file over my home network from my PC to my devices using FTP, and it peaked at about 4 Mbps on the Transformer Prime and hit 8 Mbps on my Galaxy Nexus. YUCK.
I'm going to try and get to a buddy's house today to do some distance tests, and I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be pleased with the results.
I really do love everything else about this tablet, but this just really sucks. What good is a tablet with crappy wifi?
With the dock would android support any USB Wi-Fi adapters? just curious
Thought I'd share my tests for bandwidth, bluetooth and GPS using them with various test scenarios and comparisons.
Background info: I bought the Prime last week at Best Buy. I pretty much pulled it out of the box and ran all the OTA updates, so I have ICS and it's got the latest updates. Not rooted.
Serial: BCOKAS11**** (Gray, 32 GB)
Network: Ran the test at my house. I'm probably hitting my upload bandwidth on all the tests, so it may not be the best test for upload bandwidth. My average bandwidth on a computer is about 11.8 mbps down, 1.7 mbps up. I only run G Wifi at my house. I have an older N router, but it slows down my network overall... so I have it disabled.
The Speed test image below are the following scenarios (pictured from top to bottom):
- Wifi, GPS, bluetooth earpiece paired using Google Music
- Wifi, bluetooth earpiece paired using Google Music
- Wifi, GPS, bluetooth on
- Wifi and GPS
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As you can see, BT streaming kills about half of the bandwidth from wifi. This isn't great, but I can live with that.
Next test are for GPS. Sorry the pics are so big, I'll try to fix that later. These were done outside my house in a Michigan suburb with GPS Test and are picture in the following order (you can tell by the icons in the dock):
- All Radios on, connected to my Wifi network, Bluetooth using Google Music
- Wifi on connected to network and GPS on
- GPS only on
It took less than a minute to start picking up satellites, but no where near as fast as my phone. I am not too familiar with these read-outs.
I'm clearly picking up some GPS satellites outside. I seemed to be able to get some signal in my house.
Overall, I pretty happy with the tablet. It does have a few bugs that could be related to ICS like the slow browser issue and some FCs. I don't have any light bleeding, but my eye aren't that great either. I was really worried about this thing after everything I've read on here, but I think I must have got the keeper model.
I'm new to xda, so throw me a 'thanks' if this helps you! Thanks!
Links to your pictures dont work, guessing they are not in the public section of dropbox
Argh... standby. Guess that's why I'm still a 'Junior Member'.
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Links to your pictures dont work, guessing they are not in the public section of dropbox
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Can you see them now? It blew up the ones of the GPS screens after I did that. They weren't that big originally. Thanks for pointing it out.
I have the same tablet 32gb grey and mine is also BCOKAS11XXXX like yours.
Mine is perfect except wifi the wifi/bt issue.
So this batch is good , and mine confirms that the wifi/bt problem is hw related.
I'm afraid no firmware update will solve that, but I still hope.
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I'm afraid no firmware update will solve that, but I still hope.
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I heard that the same problem exists on cell phones, but I've never tried that for comparison.
Very weak signal compared to other devices, and this has come up a million times, yes it works. Yes it has a very weak signal.
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Very weak signal compared to other devices, and this has come up a million times, yes it works. Yes it has a very weak signal.
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Well, there are a lot of posts where people say they can't get a signal at all. So, I was just sharing my results with the serial numer I have since that seems to be trending info on the forum.
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Well, there are a lot of posts where people say they can't get a signal at all. So, I was just sharing my results with the serial numer I have since that seems to be trending info on the forum.
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Well yes, I agree it is working and usable for lets say photo tagging (in open air) or something but for example driving it most of the time will not work. But still it looks like you're lucky with your unit!
BTW: This is from the Galaxy S II
Can you tell me what the giant '0' is for on the GPS Test app? One test I ran had a '2'.
But yes, you definitely have more strength. I'm not implying its an amazing GPS device... but it's functional. It got my position to around 50 ft from every test according to the app.
Can we do some runs with WiFi please on a new C1 prime? I'd like to see a 250MB file transfer on a 2.5GHz N router connected to a ethernet wired PC and the transfer speeds associated with that transfer from various distanced.
I think what is happening is that people are reporting good Wifi using Speedtest because their DSL/Cable only goes as high as ~15mbps
For example, when I had both of my primes, my wifi was AWESOME with regards to Speedtests because my DSL line with verizon was only 7.1mbps down/768kbps up.
I never checked the LAN speed which would have accurately tested the maximum capability of my route/prime.
Who can help?
Pubnum said:
I think what is happening is that people are reporting good Wifi using Speedtest because their DSL/Cable only goes as high as ~15mbps
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Well, I only pay for 12 Mbps down at my house. And that's still faster than any free wifi I would be connecting to anywhere (or my phone). I could test at a friend's apartment... I think he gets around 35 down and 6 up on an N router. He has the fastest internet out of the people I know. Providers are kinda limited / expensive in Michigan because they are different in each city.
If I stop at his apartment this weekend, I'll take my Prime.
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Can you tell me what the giant '0' is for on the GPS Test app? One test I ran had a '2'.
But yes, you definitely have more strength. I'm not implying its an amazing GPS device... but it's functional. It got my position to around 50 ft from every test according to the app.
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Not my picture by the way, I'm not sure what that means, maybe someone else?
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Not my picture by the way, I'm not sure what that means, maybe someone else?
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Ah. I thought you just ran that test and posted the pic from the S2.
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Ah. I thought you just ran that test and posted the pic from the S2.
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Nope, I found it online. I can however see what my HTC Sensation does, that one also has a partly aluminium back cover.
JoeyLe said:
Nope, I found it online. I can however see what my HTC Sensation does, that one also has a partly aluminium back cover.
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Ha. I have the same phone. I will probably test it out later today out of curiosity... better comparison to test in the same location I did the Prime.
P.S. I'm rooted using the DarkForest ICS Sensation ROM... Version 5.1 flys and the hotspot functionality works.
*edit... with O/C kernel too.
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Can you tell me what the giant '0' is for on the GPS Test app? One test I ran had a '2'.
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Ended up figuring this out. It's the MPH. Changes if you move around.
OK So I've been told that the "Official ASUS Thread - Users with BT/WiFi Fallout Issues" is ONLY for BT + WiFi issues.
We need an official thread to address the weak WiFi issues! After tons of threads, posts, complaints and returns, will ASUS ever going to admit there IS an issue and have it fixed? I'm receiving my 3rd Prime this week. I'll continue returning until I get one that works.
***NOTE*** IF YOU THINK YOUR WIFI IS "FINE" PLEASE DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD. LET US USERS WITH WIFI ISSUES DISCUSS OUR PROBLEMS. THANKS!!!
I agree. Thanks for starting one.
My experience...I pre-ordered the TP as soon as it became available on BB.com. It came in on Jan 3rd. I returned it on Jan 14th. I noticed right away that the WiFi was weak. I checked other wifi devices in my house from the same distances and they were all fine. I downloaded a wifi analyzer app and checked the wifi signal and it was all over the place. It never got in the green and would drop the signal completely ever few minutes or so. So, I downloaded the same app onto my cell phone and the signal was fine. No drops and held steady in the green. All from the same spot in my house. Of course, in my game room right next to my router the signal would be fine.
I then paired my LG bluetooth headset and the signal got even worse. It would lose connection to my router all together.
I decided to return mine. I did alot of research on this problem and have seen ALOT of people with these same problems. But some people have said they have no wifi problems with some of the later serial numbers. So I decided to give it one more shot. I have one on order from BB and will post my experiences with it.
There probably isn't one because weak wifi is subjective to user opinion ans their personal network. So many different factors can influence network performance as no 2 networks are the same. Its alot more complicated to determine if someone truly has weak wifi or if its their network settings or if something else is interfering with signal that's unknown yet.
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There probably isn't one because weak wifi is subjective to user opinion ans their personal network. So many different factors can influence network performance as no 2 networks are the same. Its alot more complicated to determine if someone truly has weak wifi or if its their network settings or if something else is interfering with signal that's unknown yet.
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Well my Prime's WiFi is much weaker compared to two other tablets, Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer.
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Well my Prime's WiFi is much weaker compared to two other tablets, Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer.
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N my prime is on par or better than my Ipad or atrix. So its a wide range of performance that can be easily influenced by other things. Not saying yours doesn't have weak wifi, just making a point. I've extensively tested range n strength n speeds vs. My Ipad n Atrix 4g. Prime pulls fastest speeds of all 3. By a large margin also. Then for range they all about the same. As far as stability, my prime holds the signal very well. That's not to say others aren't experiencing this. Its just that a very controlled test has to be done to specifically pin point if prime in fact has weaker wifi performance. Or if its being caused by something else.
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There probably isn't one because weak wifi is subjective to user opinion ans their personal network. So many different factors can influence network performance as no 2 networks are the same. Its alot more complicated to determine if someone truly has weak wifi or if its their network settings or if something else is interfering with signal that's unknown yet.
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No complication here. Travel with a friend who has an iPad/Samsung/Etc tablet. Verify, like I did, that sometimes you are *not* able to use WiFi at airports, Hotels, Starbucks, etc, like your friend easily did with his tablet.
my wifi is weak. much weaker than galaxy tab 10.1 and original transformer. we need an official thread for this.
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No complication here. Travel with a friend who has an iPad/Samsung/Etc tablet. Verify, like I did, that sometimes you are *not* able to use WiFi at airports, Hotels, Starbucks, etc, like your friend easily did with his tablet.
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That's what I worry about. I've tweaked my router's channels and moved it closer to center of house, outside of a closet. All because of Prime's weak wifi compared to other tablets I have tested it against.
While I have good WiFi now inside my home because of the changes, I worry that when I travel I may get stuck.
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N my prime is on par or better than my Ipad or atrix. So its a wide range of performance that can be easily influenced by other things. Not saying yours doesn't have weak wifi, just making a point. I've extensively tested range n strength n speeds vs. My Ipad n Atrix 4g. Prime pulls fastest speeds of all 3. By a large margin also. Then for range they all about the same. As far as stability, my prime holds the signal very well. That's not to say others aren't experiencing this. Its just that a very controlled test has to be done to specifically pin point if prime in fact has weaker wifi performance. Or if its being caused by something else.
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Speed and signal strength at two completely separate things though. That spotted means nothing when you have no signal. Post screen shots of all three of your devices in the same spot with something that shows the strength of your wifi in dB.
The thing everyone is worried about is when they leave the ideal situation of their own home. This is why I am getting rid of my Acer a500. It constantly gets 25dB less signal strength when it actually gets a signal but when I go other places, I don't usually get signal unless I am close to the router.
So I was going to look at the Prime, but it appears it has the same problem. Most likely due to the aluminum back cover like my Acer.
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I think there has been enough post/articles on this site and many others to say that this is not a subjective issue. It may be an issue that is not affecting every TP made (I hope my next TP is one of those) but to those that have the problems it is a real wifi problem. I just hope Asus would finally admit to it and resolve it. I find it hard to believe that they don't know what the problem is yet. The guy on this site (the should I cut a hole in my TP thread) that took his TP apart found the antenna assy had a faulty PCB.
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There probably isn't one because weak wifi is subjective to user opinion ans their personal network. So many different factors can influence network performance as no 2 networks are the same. Its alot more complicated to determine if someone truly has weak wifi or if its their network settings or if something else is interfering with signal that's unknown yet.
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Weak WiFi is no more subjective than anything else if you're using proper measurement tools. "Bars" mean nothing, and I won't quote "bars" as any evidence. However, tools like Wifi Analyzer and Speedtest.net give objective, comparable numbers. I understand that a number of factors effect WiFi but that's the point -- a weak WiFi will have more problems accommodating these factors. It's not sufficient to say "you're not in the optimal environment" when that environment cannot be controlled outside of one's own house or (sometimes) place of business.
With that introduction....
I'm on my second Prime, and I can verify that WiFi PERFORMANCE has been generally lower on both Primes than my HTC Incredible and my HP laptop. At my house, D-Link 802.11G Channel 6, the phone is usually about 15 to 20% faster on Speedtest.net, and with the laptop it can be 40% faster. Additionally, as many other users report, at further distances from the router the dropoff on the Primes becomes substantial. In the farthest room of my house from the router (one floor down, two rooms away) my phone can pull 3000-4000k on Speedtest and my laptop pulls 7000k+, yet both Primes CONSISTENTLY drop to 1000k or below.
I tested at my brother-in-law's house yesterday during the Super Bowl to see how it would behave on a different network. Linksys router, 802.11G on Channel 11, my phone consistently got 5500-6500k down and my Prime never got above 2500. I was one floor down, one room over from the router.
Oddly, on WiFi Analyzer my Prime gets almost the exact same signal strength as my phone in all environments. That's the only hope I have that this could be a software issue and be fixable with a new firmware.
Again, I understand variance in network environments, but I think it's clear that for a significant number of users in varied environments, the WiFi on the Prime is delivering lower performance than other devices in similar conditions.
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Speed and signal strength at two completely separate things though. That spotted means nothing when you have no signal. Post screen shots of all three of your devices in the same spot with something that shows the strength of your wifi in dB.
The thing everyone is worried about is when they leave the ideal situation of their own home. This is why I am getting rid of my Acer a500. It constantly gets 25dB less signal strength when it actually gets a signal but when I go other places, I don't usually get signal unless I am close to the router.
So I was going to look at the Prime, but it appears it has the same problem. Most likely due to the aluminum back cover like my Acer.
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I have found that signal strength is comparable on my Prime to that of other tablets. (I just checked it again.) But at distances from my router, the Prime gets slower download speeds than the other tablets I've tested it against.
Wifi on my Prime is definitely far worse than on any other device I own.
At home, it actually works perfect, regardless of where I am in the house.
At work it is a whole different ball game. I drop my connection every few minutes, can't connect, etc. I have two different usable wireless networks and my own 4g wireless hotspot.
I can not stay connected to any of them. I assume it is due to the amount of interference floating mixed with the construction of the prime and its firmware.
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I have found that signal strength is comparable on my Prime to that of other tablets. (I just checked it again.) But at distances from my router, the Prime gets slower download speeds than the other tablets I've tested it against.
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You have other tablets in your home that you are comparing it to? When I compare my Acer a500 to my HTC Rezound (phone), my phone gets around -40dB signal strength and the tablet gets -65dB if I am lucky and that is sitting within 15 feet with direct line of sight to my Access Point (that I actually set up because the tablet was so crappy at getting a signal from my primary router).
My house is a pretty open ranch that is only 1450 square feet, so it is not like it is a huge house either (and it is all one floor).
EDIT: Wait a minute, what are you smoking? You have your own thread in this same forum complaining about your Prime being worse than your other two tablets and then you tell me it is comparable????
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EDIT: Wait a minute, what are you smoking? You have your own thread in this same forum complaining about your Prime being worse than your other two tablets and then you tell me it is comparable????
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I understood his post as saying that signal strength is comparable to other devices, but data throughput is lower. This would be consistent with what I've seen on both the Primes I've used.
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You have other tablets in your home that you are comparing it to? When I compare my Acer a500 to my HTC Rezound (phone), my phone gets around -40dB signal strength and the tablet gets -65dB if I am lucky and that is sitting within 15 feet with direct line of sight to my Access Point (that I actually set up because the tablet was so crappy at getting a signal from my primary router).
My house is a pretty open ranch that is only 1450 square feet, so it is not like it is a huge house either (and it is all one floor).
EDIT: Wait a minute, what are you smoking? You have your own thread in this same forum complaining about your Prime being worse than your other two tablets and then you tell me it is comparable????
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I said the WiFi Analyzer SIGNAL STRENGTH is comparable. The Prime's download speed are weak compared to other tablets, especially the Galaxy10.1.
Someone else reported the same thing, comparable WiFi signal strength, but slower Prime WiFi downloads.
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I understood his post as saying that signal strength is comparable to other devices, but data throughput is lower. This would be consistent with what I've seen on both the Primes I've used.
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Look at his thread, "Time to "Downgrade" to TF101?". He clearly states that the signal is weak (and much weaker than the Samsung).
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I said the WiFi Analyzer SIGNAL STRENGTH is comparable. The Prime's download speed are weak compared to other tablets, especially the Galaxy10.1.
Someone else reported the same thing, comparable WiFi signal strength, but slower Prime WiFi downloads.
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Very poor choice of words if that is indeed the case. Weak is the opposite of Strong, you should have said slower if you purely meant the speed. Anyway, post a screenshot of your tablets with wifi analyzer up and in the same spot. I am curious....
I am actually thinking of getting the TF101 as well FWIW.
Ok, this is my first day on this forum. I've been on Transformerforums.com since the Prime launch and I've participated in a number of discussions over there but I decided to participate over here because it looked like the technical quality of the discussions was a little deeper and more informative. Attacking another single user for his choice of words in describing a problem is not helpful and does not forward the discussion of the issue. I think we understood what he was saying and I agree with him. Let's keep this on topic and actually discuss the Prime, not someone language semantics.
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Ok, this is my first day on this forum. I've been on Transformerforums.com since the Prime launch and I've participated in a number of discussions over there but I decided to participate over here because it looked like the technical quality of the discussions was a little deeper and more informative. Attacking another single user for his choice of words in describing a problem is not helpful and does not forward the discussion of the issue. I think we understood what he was saying and I agree with him. Let's keep this on topic and actually discuss the Prime, not someone language semantics.
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I am not attacking by any means and I obviously did not understand what he was saying otherwise I would have not brought it up. I am an engineer so maybe I am more analytical than most so when I read weak, I associate that with strength not speed.
I would still like to see a screen shot of the comparison between other devices. It seems like there are tons of complaints about the signal strength (reported by wifi analyzer) is much lower for the Prime compared to other tablets and that is the issue I am having now with my Acer so I don't want to get in to that situation again.
Too often, people will try and "justify" their purchases when there really is an issue with the product. There has to be a reason the Prime is rated lower than the original transformer when on a spec sheet the Prime blows the original away.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479664
second post under mod section you'll see tons of testing and modding that should help you understand some of our issues
Now that I've had some more time to test it out, I've found that my WiFi is indeed pretty flawed.
First day, reached decent distances with decent signal. Today, three days after, I seem to get worse results.
This seems to go along with the idea that the pogopins aren't quite making a proper connection with the antenna. However, I do also see degradation in signal strength when changing whether my Prime faces the AP or away. So this goes along with the idea that the backplate is interfering.
I personally believe it's both, plus a third and maybe more issues.
Only time will tell, as I don't see ASUS doing so. We are the beta testers, and I believe we'll generally be the repairmen.
Turned on GPS..
If I stand at the furthest point in my house and do a speed test with GPS disabled I get
34ping 2.30Mb/s down 3.82Mb/s up
I enable GPS and do another speed test..
11ping 17Mb/s down 4.44Mb/s up
Although this has, for me, fixed my Wifi my GPS is non existent, I am yet to get a single satellite with GPS test while in the middle of my garden.
Let me know if enabling the GPS helps with Wifi speeds for any of you
Maybe this is why my WiFi seems OK. I just leave GPS on most of the time. (although I haven't tested my GPS as it is wintry here)
interesting, i will have to give this a try.....thanks for the info sir.
Was really hoping it would work for me since my wifi gets below 5mbps which sucks...
Did multiple test and nothing major changed..
Glad it worked for you..
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You're sure enabling GPS didn't simply make speed test select a more appropriate server?
It would be better if folks tested wifi speeds over their local network, I think.
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Turned on GPS..
If I stand at the furthest point in my house and do a speed test with GPS disabled I get
34ping 2.30Mb/s down 3.82Mb/s up
I enable GPS and do another speed test..
11ping 17Mb/s down 4.44Mb/s up
Although this has, for me, fixed my Wifi my GPS is non existent, I am yet to get a single satellite with GPS test while in the middle of my garden.
Let me know if enabling the GPS helps with Wifi speeds for any of you
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Interesting. Is this with the latest firmware? Play with Wifi Analyzer as well. Check your Wifi -db signal. See what is going on with that.
Odd that just enabling GPS and not enabling would get different results. Maybe something with the latest firmware.
I can't test because my prime is totally modded. External antenna etc.
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Although this has, for me, fixed my Wifi my GPS is non existent, I am yet to get a single satellite with GPS test while in the middle of my garden.
Let me know if enabling the GPS helps with Wifi speeds for any of you
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My GPS works (marginally) . Works better with the GPS fix mentioned in other threads. However, getting a GPS fix from a "cold start" sometimes takes a while. For example, Decided to try it on a short grocery trip. When I finally got the fix (already at the store), it said "2050 sec to first fix"....Once it got that first fix, it worked fine the rest of the way home.....Again with that fix applied....although I marginally see sats without the fix.
Another side note: I happened to notice while it was searching, a little info message appeared that said "Best results are obtained if the unit is horizontal".
But sometimes that first fix can be a bear to get.
Good luck,
Bob
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You're sure enabling GPS didn't simply make speed test select a more appropriate server?
It would be better if folks tested wifi speeds over their local network, I think.
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I am at starbucks was getting 11Mpbs for the last hour I enabled GPS and sure enough I am at 65Mpbs .......I work out of this starbucks and never connected at 65Mpbs........just saying what I've observed.
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I am at starbucks was getting 11Mpbs for the last hour I enabled GPS and sure enough I am at 65Mpbs .......I work out of this starbucks and never connected at 65Mpbs........just saying what I've observed.
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Lol which Starbucks do u go to? I'm lucky if I get 1mbps at any Starbucks in NY and Philly
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Pretty sure he's talking link speed, not actual throughput.
I live next to a Starbucks that is nearly always dead and with me sitting close to the registers, the speeds can hit 2 Mbps max. ****ty ATT internets.
Sorry for the noob question, but how do you enable GPS so that it stays on in other applications?
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Sorry for the noob question, but how do you enable GPS so that it stays on in other applications?
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Other than the check boxes in LOCATION Services, there is no other control. When you open an app that can use GPS, you'll see a little icon in the notification bar that says "Searching for GPS"
If the GPS system were totally working, you would never lose the signal...The only time you lose it is if it is marginal.
What is the impact of GPS on battery life, if it does not work and it keeps searching without finding anything?
Battery will be drained very very quickly. I am sure.
Think about it
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What is the impact of GPS on battery life, if it does not work and it keeps searching without finding anything?
Battery will be drained very very quickly. I am sure.
Think about it
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The GPS will only find your location if an app asks it to do so. So if the GPS icon isn't showing next to the clock the GPS is not in use.
Not sure any of you have noticed... Prime doesn't have a gps.conf file on it... I added it last night and got 8 of 13 locked... from inside... by the window. Check out system/etc/gps.......
One other thing I noticed.. in build.prop my wifi.country = is set to GB even though I bought the transformer in Canada... can someone check and see if they have anything different?
I've always wondered if the Wifi issue was a software problem. My wifi is "okay". The most annoying thing is it randomly completely disconnects from my school's wifi network and then it shows that there is no wifi available. The reason why I think its a software problem is because if I disable and re-enable the wifi it starts working again with me being in the exact same location.
Kind of odd...
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I've always wondered if the Wifi issue was a software problem. My wifi is "okay". The most annoying thing is it randomly completely disconnects from my school's wifi network and then it shows that there is no wifi available. The reason why I think its a software problem is because if I disable and re-enable the wifi it starts working again with me being in the exact same location.
Kind of odd...
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I saw this on previous firmwares, but never on the latest one. It also seemed, in my experience, to be related to the chrome beta. If I brought that up it would immediately stop any data being transferred over wifi and would then lead to a disconnect.
I never did uninstall the chrome beta to see if that fixed it entirely, but updating to the latest firmware did seem to stop the issue.
Suppose I'll hop on the bandwagon and give it a go.
It's hard for me to get any real speed degradation without actually dropping below the connection threshold with these rural speeds, but I'll try.
My wifi works pretty good after some build.prop tweaks, i would suggest that before modding the tf201. Basically, i added net.tcp.buffersize.wifi with some values and net.tcp.buffersize.umts with the same values 4096 ,87380, 256960, 4096, 16384, 256960
Of course you need to be rooted
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Hello everybody from Xda,
I'm looking for a new phone for my mother and I am really interested to know what the GPS is like. If the gps is any good I will join the Xiaomi army.
Why am I so interested in this?
Well my mother her navigation system just died and, I would like to install the tom tom app on her phone, I've got it currently on my oneplus one without internet and it's great. My mom will also have no data plan with her phone so google maps or anything isnt an option for her
So my question to you guys is, does anybody of you have had any ecperience with the gps.
Thanks in advance XDA,
Deameong
I am curious about the same thing. I use GPS without any Internet or even phone signal (normally on airplane mode to save battery). And I would like to know how reliable it is.
Attached a Screenshot, few Seconds (about 30) after switching GPS on. GPS receptions is really good, from my point of view.
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I am curious about the same thing. I use GPS without any Internet or even phone signal (normally on airplane mode to save battery). And I would like to know how reliable it is.
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Just recieved it now,
Using google map and waze, locking on me very fast,
Looks good and stable with great reception of the GPS...
Can you say how much time in seconds need to lock satellites?
Thank You
Thanks alot for the advice guys,
Going to order it tonight!
I've just come back from holiday and I used GPS extensively with the offline Co-pilot app. It worked almost flawlessly both in the car and when cycling. I can't begin to tell you how much better it is than older MTK eqiluipped phones. Lock times varied from four seconds to nearly a minute. One thing I noticed is that it was much faster to lock in Co-pilot when I was connected to the internet. Accuracy was great, though I never went into a big city with lots of high rise buildings.
GPS, Wifi and network signal 2-3 times better than on my Note 4.
GPS is sick, in my room after 2-3 sec.
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Hello,
Runkeeper with someone tried, I hesitate to buy the premium just because of that?
(avec Runkeeper quelqu'un a essayé, j'hésite à acheter le Prime juste à cause de ça?)
I really want to know about the gps as well. I use the gps so much. Now I have the lg g3, I would like to know if this one is around the same as g3.
Thanks
D.
Ill give uadvice gps locking depends onyour connection and area,i use gps in city with locking time vary from 10 -80 sec or more the signal was good but for gps signal its not good so it some time locks slower, this is qqualcomm 400 chipset ,newer version of mediatek might performs better and i have ever try gps with airplane mode one using gps test on aa mountain area and it lock 30 sec or less,the signal came out by it self with no connection so everything depend on your area and your xhipset ,newer chipset performs excellent on gps
I'd like to know more about how the GPS in this phone is faring for you because for me it's an endless horror story. Neither Google Maps nor Endomondo give even acceptable locations and tracking.
And the compass is so bad I wanna puke.
The phone is great in almost every other aspect, but GPS is fairly important for me and I'm starting to regret purchasing this phone. May it be fixed with better ROMs or is it a hardware fault?
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I'd like to know more about how the GPS in this phone is faring for you because for me it's an endless horror story. Neither Google Maps nor Endomondo give even acceptable locations and tracking.
And the compass is so bad I wanna puke.
The phone is great in almost every other aspect, but GPS is fairly important for me and I'm starting to regret purchasing this phone. May it be fixed with better ROMs or is it a hardware fault?
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I used it yesterday for half an hour in inner city traffic. The phone found the GPS signal in a few seconds with data connection, without it takes a minute or two. Navigation itself was worrisome. Went under a bridge and signal was lost for about 2 minutes. Then Google maps always thought I was going inside buildings or streets next to my actual route. Really weird.
Inside my room 2 - 3 seconds lock, the best gps on any of my past smartphones.
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Inside my room 2 - 3 seconds lock, the best gps on any of my past smartphones.
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
This device GPS should be good..
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
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I don't know what you're on about, but GPS Test uses the same API and sensor as any other app. I'm getting the same 5-7 second fix indoors from GPS Test and HERE Maps. Both don't jump around and show my correct position.
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
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Well we use diagnostic tools to know accurately if something is wrong or not, nothing wrong with that. With GPS Status we can know how many sat signal we got, how strong, what is the margin of error, etc.
And i don't have any problem in real life apps and GPS status confirmed that fact.
If you want positive info or help don't start with a negative.
Wheaton's Law - DBAD
China ROM GPS problem
But with china stable rom, the map apps is using Baidu, and if your GPS location is not available, the device will report your network location (wifi/3G), which is in simplified chinese to your requesting apps, that sucks, however, I can't deny the hardware GPS here in RN2 is the best I ever used.
I tried GPS in the city. High accuracy, pretty fast lock and it worked just fine, no problems. Accuracy is usually 3-5m, 17 satellites in use on average. I'm not exactly sure what kind of problems you're facing. However, I can tell you this. A friend has Meizu M1 Note, the GPS was at first very good. But somehow at some point after updating, the accuracy's became horrible, 80m+ and it kept losing connection, IF it managed to establish one. It's most likely not faulty HW, but a misconfigured gps config.
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