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Does anyone have any info/input on this?
I don't know the answer to this but this is what I'm thinking...
If 1. Both the Vibrant 4G & 3G are physically the same, 2. Hardware is identical, 3. Parts can be interchanged.
If these things are hypothetically the same, would it be possible to buy the "4G" part, and install it in a 3G to turn it into a 4G?
...the question then is, What makes the 4G a "4G"?
Software wise, I'm sure we can take a 4G ROM from the dev's and flash it in, then software will be running.
If this is at all possible, we could mod our 3G Vibrants and make it a true 4G phone and not have to pay for a whole new one!
Thoughts?
Yeah im curious about that too!
I'm pretty sure they aren't the same. I believe the radio is different. It sounded like the leaked 4G rom wasn't totally compatible because of this and some other things.
I assume that I'll need to call AT&T and give them the IMEI number of the GSII -- do I need to request anything special so that they provision the phone on their "4G" (HSPA+) network?
Do I need to tell them what model of phone it is?
I had an Inspire 4G in the past, but returned it in favor of buying this phone outright and avoid reupping my contract for a 'meh' phone in comparison -- I'm still grandfathered into the Unlimited data plan, and in the past when I had the Inspire 4G I was on their Unlimited 4G plan -- I guess do I just ask for the same?
Would it be easier to just take the new phone into the store -- I'm terrified of them molesting this new beauty.
Just trying to think ahead and be prepared for when this beast arrives (hopefully?) next week!
The area I live in does indeed have HSPA+ service.
Dont call atnt, ever. You dont need to in order to enable 3g. If your phone shows 3g (searches) and then switches over to 2g right off the bat in an area where you know you get 3g then you can figure you are on the euro bands. Unlikely but go into settings/wireless and see if you can toggle. Most likely you will need to root and then go to the hidden menu for the bands. Instructions for both can be found here in a search. Unless of course its working. lol If you see it staying on 3g run speed test if you dont mind. Regards report back, lots of folks want to have an answer with this one.
krabman said:
Dont call atnt, ever. You dont need to in order to enable 3g. If your phone shows 3g (searches) and then switches over to 2g right off the bat in an area where you know you get 3g then you can figure you are on the euro bands. Unlikely but go into settings/wireless and see if you can toggle. Most likely you will need to root and then go to the hidden menu for the bands. Instructions for both can be found here in a search. Unless of course its working. lol If you see it staying on 3g run speed test if you dont mind. Regards report back, lots of folks want to have an answer with this one.
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Gotcha. I've read lots of shenanigans that your IMEI has to be provisioned on their network for it to access HSPA+ -- I've also heard that you need a LTE capable SIM card to get on the HSPA+ network - which makes no sense, since HSPA+ is basically enhanced 3G.
You don't have to do anything, just pop in your sim card and go.
Do we have confirmation anyone using a galaxy ds2784 with att 3g yet?
I have read that the 4G LTE drains your battery much much faster than 3G does, so I was wondering if there was a way to force the phone to switch to 3G mode only. I thought it would be in setting, but I can't seem to find it. Maybe there's an app?
Plus I have noticed that where I live there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference between 4G LTE and 3G... at least in my area right now.
just like when i was on sprint the 4G radio drained much faster than 3g i agree
however i believe you cannot turn this off at this point
maybe we will when we get more roms n such
(but i think somebody said the Bell version has an LTE on/off,not for ATnT though)
It is avilable on custom roms like this one
You would think there would be an app that could do that. I see some for other phones in the market. Maybe one that works for the AT&T Galaxy S2/Skyrocket? Those are 4G LTE devices I believe. Those are the closest to the Note.
Nevermind it stopped
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Nevermind it stopped
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Thank goodness it stopped I dont think you were going to be able to handle anymore.
As to the OP, why oh why would you ever want to turn off LTE? So you can save some battery, come on stick a charger in it and charge it. You bought a 4G phoblet use it. Gotta love the 4G LTE speeds over 3G.
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Thank goodness it stopped I dont think you were going to be able to handle anymore.
As to the OP, why oh why would you ever want to turn off LTE? So you can save some battery, come on stick a charger in it and charge it. You bought a 4G phoblet use it. Gotta love the 4G LTE speeds over 3G.
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I can answer that question I already posted this in another thread, but I'll post here (also note I am not getting my Note until tomorrow or saturday, so this is secondhand assumption). I live around 45 to 60 minutes away from an LTE capable city but the LTE range doesn't reach my home. When I'm at home, I'd like to be easily turn LTE off, but easily turn it on when I'm in town.
I think that's where the OP is coming from, though what do I know?
shaolinx said:
It is avilable on custom roms like this one
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tjw345 said:
I can answer that question I already posted this in another thread, but I'll post here (also note I am not getting my Note until tomorrow or saturday, so this is secondhand assumption). I live around 45 to 60 minutes away from an LTE capable city but the LTE range doesn't reach my home. When I'm at home, I'd like to be easily turn LTE off, but easily turn it on when I'm in town.
I think that's where the OP is coming from, though what do I know?
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Follow the link in shaolinx's post, apparently the SauROM has the capability to toggle it with the Jkay mods that are included. If you're up for flashing ROMS, I think that would be an easy fix.
I have the same question about turning off LTE. I don't live in one of the few cities where LTE is offered. Can't I save battery by turning it off?
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I have the same question about turning off LTE. I don't live in one of the few cities where LTE is offered. Can't I save battery by turning it off?
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Read the thread, it has already been stated that SauROM has an easy on/off switch for this, flash the ROM and you'll be good.
On another note though, if you are not in an LTE city, it apparently doesn't affect battery life as it will not search for signal if there is not one present.
But if you want to be sure, flash the ROM.
The reason I asked this was because 4G LTE sucks where I am at. Speeds are roughly the same as 3G. I am guessing it is because I'm on the outer fringes of LA's 4G LTE range. Turning off 4G and keeping with 3G will conserve battery and probably give me a few more hours of juice.
I want to keep my device as stock as possible, so I don't want to go the root/rom route. Guess I'll have to wait till someone creates an app to do so. They have this sort of thing for other devices, so I think it is only a matter of time. The Note has been selling very well overseas as well as here... so I am sure there will be tons specific apps geared towards the Note.
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Read the thread, it has already been stated that SauROM has an easy on/off switch for this, flash the ROM and you'll be good.
On another note though, if you are not in an LTE city, it apparently doesn't affect battery life as it will not search for signal if there is not one present.
But if you want to be sure, flash the ROM.
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I did read the thread and I understand. Thanks. I plan to flash the ROM as soon as I get my Note.
You answered my question but how does the device know that there is no LTE unless it turns LTE on occassionally to check? And if it is turning it on\off\on to check, then that uses battery, right? Not trying to be arguementative. Just trying to understand. Thanks.
If you go to SETTINGS>WIRELESS SETTINGS> MOBILE NETWORK SETTINGS> NETWORK MODE> and click on GSM only that might just put you in 3G mode. Its worth the shot.
We don't have that menu option on the AT&T Note.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note
Sorry if this has been asked before, I could not find it anywhere...
With my Evo LTE, if I have no 3G signal, I get no data at all (not using wifi). Is there supposed to be 1x data? With my Epic, I would bounce between 3G and 1x while at work, getting about 60 Kbps (horrible I know, but at least it worked). Now with my Evo, I either get 3G or nothing. Most of the time I get an error that there is no network connectivity, where with my Epic I never got that, it just worked slower at times.
So, is it a configuration issue, does the Evo not support 1x, or could I possibly have a hardware issue? I have domestic data and voice checked.
Well, this EVO does not want you to know whether you are connected with 1x vs 3g. So, on stock it will ALWAYS show as 3g. This is why you are going from 3g to no connection whatsoever.
If you are rooted, install a custom ROM as they all have the option of including this modification. If you would like to keep your current set-up, there is a thread to walk you through the necessary changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688413
On a side note, the EVO also gets horrible reception in general. So although you will have a better idea of what your connection is, the fact of the matter is that your reception is probably not as good as it was with a previous phone.
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Well, this EVO does not want you to know whether you are connected with 1x vs 3g. So, on stock it will ALWAYS show as 3g. This is why you are going from 3g to no connection whatsoever.
If you are rooted, install a custom ROM as they all have the option of including this modification. If you would like to keep your current set-up, there is a thread to walk you through the necessary changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688413
On a side note, the EVO also gets horrible reception in general. So although you will have a better idea of what your connection is, the fact of the matter is that your reception is probably not as good as it was with a previous phone.
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Well, at least it makes me feel better knowing that it isn't a hardware issue. My voice reception seems better with this phone than my Epic, but data, not so much. Maybe LTE will magically fix all my issues? Other than a dead pixel, screen being a little washed out compared to SAMOLED, and reception issues, I still like my phone. Not sure if the SGIII would have better data reception where I'm at. Sucks that I have unlimited data, but just can't get at it.
I'm not convinced.
the first day our two after I got my phone, I had the same problem.
I tried changing from CDMA & LTE to CDMA only. That didn't help.
I then rebooted my phone. After that, data seems to work fine. My display sometimes shows bars with 3G, and sometimes simply bars only.
Before I rebooted, it never showed 3G.
I had even started a thread about it. But it seems to work fine now.
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I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
thanks
-noah
noahsarky said:
I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
thanks
-noah
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what are you talking about? There is no wimax 4g network. the network they call a 4g network isn't even a network. It's not even possible to drive a mile without losing your connection. look at your bars. any bars? Also didn't know your provider would actually support their fake network that they don't claim anymore. yeah. they won't repair any towers. they won't fix any issues with wimax. they won't do anything that helps and supports their customers. They don't care about you. they have never cared about you. Now if you want a 4G network. Go verizon. 50+M down. 12M up.
what do you mean runcool? Isn't wimax the standard used in our phones for ,4g (technology or network)? Is it no longer supported?
nvm. I did a read http://gizmodo.com/5847643/its-official-sprint-is-going-lte
Has wimax been shut down completely ? I still get connected to 4g here and there.
You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
Do a prl or profile uodate
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You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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Actually. it's called facts. There aren't any legit towers. Even if you're right next to a tower... you get the same speed with AT&T. lol There is no hate or ranting. It's just rolling eyes at another large company that doesn't care about it's customers anymore. then again. They're all that way these days. sadly. oh well It's 3G speeds... not 4G. I can get better speeds by Morse code. lol
Profile update or get 4g data fix in themes and apps brp
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runcool do you have sprint anymore?
did the msl thing, but i couldn't get the msl reader to work on my phone , i'll look aruond in apps n themes
thanks yalll
I don't know, wimax is faster than ever here in mpls. Thanks sprint.