I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
thanks
-noah
noahsarky said:
I'm rooted on ice cream sandwhich rom, sense 3.6
Basically my 4g connection is very poor, if and when it does work, its slow. It is probably related to my 4g coverage area, but I don't remember it being this bad. I went from an evo 4g, to an iphone 4, and now to the evo 3d, so I don't remember my previous 4g experience. Besides from coverage, can it be related to the rom I installed (cool ics)? Is there a way to fix or diagnose it?
thanks
-noah
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what are you talking about? There is no wimax 4g network. the network they call a 4g network isn't even a network. It's not even possible to drive a mile without losing your connection. look at your bars. any bars? Also didn't know your provider would actually support their fake network that they don't claim anymore. yeah. they won't repair any towers. they won't fix any issues with wimax. they won't do anything that helps and supports their customers. They don't care about you. they have never cared about you. Now if you want a 4G network. Go verizon. 50+M down. 12M up.
what do you mean runcool? Isn't wimax the standard used in our phones for ,4g (technology or network)? Is it no longer supported?
nvm. I did a read http://gizmodo.com/5847643/its-official-sprint-is-going-lte
Has wimax been shut down completely ? I still get connected to 4g here and there.
You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
Do a prl or profile uodate
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You might find a single tower that has their so called fake 4G network WHICH ISN'T 4G!.... But if it goes down. THEY WILL NOT REPAIR IT BECAUSE SPRINT IS CHEAP AND THE OWNERS OF SPRINT WOULD CARE LESS about you and I. Dishonest company. Refusal. I can see many issues with their LTE 4G network as well. So tell me.... Verizon can get 50M down 12M up..... why is that? why can't sprint do ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK!? Also why can't they just FLAT OUT ALLOW OUR PHONES to work like AT&T?!?!? meaning fix their 3G network! It would ONLY take a software update. lol. however, hint hint. the software update would make their 3G look like 4G lmao! because their 4G is so lame! hahahhaha
but to answer your question... wimax development/adding new towers/supporting has been shut down. they do not care about their WiMax and they never have cared about it. Yes I hope their CEO reads this comment! hope he reads makes changes in his crap company after reading this. BUT fact is that he doesn't care about you and I. he only cares about his own pockets. he would care less if he drags sprint into bankruptcy because he already made his millions on ruining a company.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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This is just hate speech and upset ranting. You make some okay points, but get over is what I think.
OP, you need to go to the dialer, type in ##DATA# and check your WiMax settings. If there is anything about vm or virgin mobile in the settings, that is probably your issue. If you know your msl, edit the settings (you can find the right ones for sprint somewhere on here) and that should make a difference. Also, there is a thread about 4G Hack in the Apps, Themes section. Check that out.
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Actually. it's called facts. There aren't any legit towers. Even if you're right next to a tower... you get the same speed with AT&T. lol There is no hate or ranting. It's just rolling eyes at another large company that doesn't care about it's customers anymore. then again. They're all that way these days. sadly. oh well It's 3G speeds... not 4G. I can get better speeds by Morse code. lol
Profile update or get 4g data fix in themes and apps brp
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runcool do you have sprint anymore?
did the msl thing, but i couldn't get the msl reader to work on my phone , i'll look aruond in apps n themes
thanks yalll
I don't know, wimax is faster than ever here in mpls. Thanks sprint.
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This is ridiculous. It's taking like 2 mins to load Google?
I've already done the proxy removal and I'm only getting like 100 kbps. What's going on here??
Welcome to sprint ...
Reboot
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Welcome to sprint ...
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i just connected just fine in a few seconds
Your actually doing better than me. I've been capping off at 79
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I have to use 4g to do any web browsing? This is terrible.
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Your actually doing better than me. I've been capping off at 79
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That's about right for Sprint 3G. It's within the 3G range for Sprint, anyway.
After removing the proxies I went from like 500kbps to 1.3mbps in my house...1-2 bars...sometimes 3....
Today I was in an area that was previously almost a deadzone, no bars but no roaming.....I got 1.5mbps-2.1mbps!??? It was phenomenal. The 4G in that area only netted my like 7mbps, even though 4g in my area (which I cannot get in my house) I've gotten up to 18mbps before.
Call sprint, report deadzones. If nobody tells them they won't do anything.
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If you live in the boonies.
It's fast in California.
I live in NYC.
Just did a speed test and got 11 kbps. Pretty sure NYC isn't in the boonies.
Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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322kbps in Philadelphia! Yeah 3g is terrible. Is there any plan on fixing this?
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Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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3G service when I had my Lotus and Moment were actually impressive for a mobile device...I was surprised.
3G Service the day I got my Evo4G was VERY impressive....and it just declined steadily from there. For a while I thought it was me screwing with the phone too much....but 2 and 2, etc....
The 3G speeds I get on my Evo3D are right in line with the Evo4G and the steady decline in service in my area (probably proportionate to some of the (now) 500,000 android activiations every effing day)....but the radio is like 1-1.5 bars lower than my Evo would average....which sucks. Performance isn't affected unless it's a fringe situation, like the bathroom at work...which sucks, I like to read CNN when I poop, but I digress.
I expect radio updates will help a lot, but, I ain't touchin' any of that until we have some action out of HTC or failing that one of our brilliant devs does what they are bound to do anyway...
...I've gotta admit, I've been F5ing the living fnck out of the two root threads in development and they are fascinating and at times exciting....I recommend it, it's better than the drunken 6-year-old mob mentality that has tended to coalesce in General lately--I haven't even bothered with Q&A....
Man I never thought I'd see the day where I'd salivate over 322 kbps.
If only Verizon would release better phones...
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Man I never thought I'd see the day where I'd salivate over 322 kbps.
If only Verizon would release better phones...
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So flash a verizon PRL and watch your usage....once you hit 300mb put back the sprint PRL...it's like you are throttling yourself, lol.
Seriously, if Verizon is that much better where you are do it....where I am Verizon has a stronger signal but they also have MANY MANY MANY times more customers than Sprint, so, their network is way oversold and over utilized....Sprint not so much....so Sprint has weaker signals and faster speeds on average.
In terms of voice, Sprint is the clear winner where I am but for some reason Data is just the worst.
How would I go about flashing a Verizon PRL? I have the PRL file but I'm unsure of how to actually flash it.
Did you try calling Sprint and getting them to reprovision your phone?
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In terms of voice, Sprint is the clear winner where I am but for some reason Data is just the worst.
How would I go about flashing a Verizon PRL? I have the PRL file but I'm unsure of how to actually flash it.
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My mistake for saying 'flashing', force of habit...
First thing you have to do is get your MSL, you can either call Sprint and ask for it or use the popular method (with CDMA workshop) that's currently around the top of the Dev section... I usually just called for it, but, for geekliness I had to rip it out myself and it was an effin' snap to do, so, just follow those directions to get it...
....then there is a thread floating around here (and/or the Evo4g forum) with a number of Verizon and Verizon/Altell hybrid PRL's.....download a couple...31337 is good I hear
then you punch in some ## codes, load the PRL file, reboot and ***POOF***, you are on verizon--still consuming roaming data and voice--but you aren't limited to 1x....
EDIT: Don't forget to hit "menu:commit changes" to reboot--or you won't make any changes.
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My mistake for saying 'flashing', force of habit...
First thing you have to do is get your MSL, you can either call Sprint and ask for it or use the popular method (with CDMA workshop) that's currently around the top of the Dev section... I usually just called for it, but, for geekliness I had to rip it out myself and it was an effin' snap to do, so, just follow those directions to get it...
....then there is a thread floating around here (and/or the Evo4g forum) with a number of Verizon and Verizon/Altell hybrid PRL's.....download a couple...31337 is good I hear
then you punch in some ## codes, load the PRL file, reboot and ***POOF***, you are on verizon--still consuming roaming data and voice--but you aren't limited to 1x....
EDIT: Don't forget to hit "menu:commit changes" to reboot--or you won't make any changes.
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Hmm thanks. I already have the MSL, but I don't see anything in the ##3282# to load in a new PRL. Is that the right code?
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OK whoa whoa! I got a nice 300 kbps just now. I changed a setting in that menu regarding EVDO. Changed it from CDMA only to Automatic. Lemme revert and see what happens.
Speedtest:
359 kbps
4821 kbps WTF?
Zorachus said:
Live in Chicago burbs, as I type this, roaming alert came on
On my.EVO 4G don't think I ever saw the roam alert. On this 3VO it roams few times a day. That NEVER used to happen.
3G service has hit the ****ter lately.
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I used to live in the Des Moines area of Iowa and the 3G was awesome...moved to Chicago and noticed its about dial up...don't know how you guys got/get by on just 3G. The EVO never went off 4G...
What's really sad is I could do speed tests on 3G in IA that are only slightly slower than my 4G tests here.
I'm gonna switch to sprint and I'm not sure what to buy. Right now I'm probably going to get the white evo 3d, I'm not sure though.
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If I were you I'd stay with whatever provider you currently have, you'll regret it believe me I did. Don't get me wrong they have probably the best phones, but the service SUCKS don't know how else to put it.
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Sucks as in....no reception, fickle reception, or slow connection?
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I whole heatedly disagree!!!! I have excellent service whether I am. I think I've dropped two or three calls in the last 7 years with sprint. Plus I'm getting 1-2.5mb/s on 3G. Moreover I think the Evo 3D is probably the best phone out right now (some will argue the GS2 but we have more features). Join us!
either the evo 3d, galaxy s ii, or the iphone 4s...imo the 3 best phones available on sprint right now
iphone 4s .... lol no I'm kidding. I would go with Samsung galaxy 2 or Evo 3d . However it really matters what you are looking for as the user. Are you wanting alot of apps on your phone? Great battery life? Small size? So I would say their really isn't a best phone out their. Just wants best for the user.
My Honest opinion would be to wait. The iPhone 4S, EVO 3D & Epic 4G Touch would be the best now.
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I honestly would recommend waiting until Sprint gets LTE capable models, which will be before you know it.
You could buy the Sprint iPhone 4S (It will have a high re-sale value) now & resell it for an Sprint LTE phone when one becomes available.
Personally, I say get the EVO 3D (see if you have good 4G within 14 days) and rock with us. I love this phone.
Seeing as you have the X2 Im going to assume you have Verizon . With that being said you are gonna see two camps on this forum . The Samsung Galaxy S 4G Touch and the Evo 3D . Me personally I will be leaving Sprint in the near future due to coverage issues that Verizon has no problem in providing . Under Sprint's service we are provided roaming on Verizon towers . Heres the kicker that I found out , you dont roam on all verizon towers , just certain ones . In my travels in verizon territory I will have access to some of their towers while other towers will not provide voice or data but show full signal strength . I have had my phone tested twice and settings checked several times everything comes out fine . So either there is a gap in verizon's roaming agreement or Sprint hasnt updated their PRL list for me to contact these towers . Second , the speeds of 3G in my area are laughable to say the least , yes we have unlimited data but due to data speeds in my area I dont even use have a gig mainly due to the fact I am on wifi most of the time (This might not apply to your situation I would speak to a sprint user in your area and get their honest opinion of how they feel about data speeds for your area) . Also mentioned earlier Sprint is moving from Wimax to LTE in the near future . This is also something to consider before getting a new phone . Depending on your are and how they excute the roll out of LTE you might be the first city to get it you might be waiting a year or more . Look at all the factors before you make your decision .
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If I were you I'd stay with whatever provider you currently have, you'll regret it believe me I did. Don't get me wrong they have probably the best phones, but the service SUCKS don't know how else to put it.
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This guy is a minority. Deciding on a Service Provider for your cell phone should mostly be considered on what kind of coverage and speed you get where you use your phone the most. I get great speeds and service at both my home and work. You might not get the same result and should look somewhere else. First question that anybody should be asking you is "why are you switching?".
On your questions about phones, it all depends on how you use your phone. Do you want something that always works, easy to use, don't really care about the development of a phone and ways of changing it? Get the iPhone4S. If you want to play with your phone, root and flash ROMS, get the EVO3D. These are my opinions and should be taken as such.
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Me personally I will be leaving Sprint in the near future due to coverage issues that Verizon has no problem in providing . Under Sprint's service we are provided roaming on Verizon towers . Heres the kicker that I found out , you dont roam on all verizon towers , just certain ones . In my travels in verizon territory I will have access to some of their towers while other towers will not provide voice or data but show full signal strength . I have had my phone tested twice and settings checked several times everything comes out fine . So either there is a gap in verizon's roaming agreement or Sprint hasnt updated their PRL list for me to contact these towers
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Prl 11115 (Sprint owned PRL) will connect to all VZW towers & 3G roam, however too much roaming will get you punted off of Sprint, ETF free.
So there is an possible smoother exit.
You can also gage how fast VZW will be beforehand.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/10/3011498/sprint-small-cell-deployment-lte-rollout
pretty interesting.
Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
I think more people are likely to buy a phone that is ready for what is coming(LTE) than a phone that is for what is leaving(WiMax).
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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Yep. The Thunderbolt didn't have LTE at launch if I remember correctly. Sprint has LTE running but has blocked users from connecting. I bet they will have the Atlanta market ready by release of the new Evo.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
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I hear ya knockin'. These days, phones become outdated fast....faster than when the OG Evo came out. I want the Evo LTE to succeed, but not having LTE out at this point in time doesn't make me want to upgrade to it and people from other carriers won't want to leave their 4G. And a few months from now, when LTE finally gets going, the Evo LTE will be considered old. Just my $0.02.
Good news that Sprint is going the extra mile to improve the LTE.
This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Sounds like a stall on the lte?
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Don't care how they do it, I just want the end result to be better than the Wimax. Which it will be.
Verizon did it pretty damned fast, AT&T is trying under extreme odds, Sprint doing it on their own should be inbetween.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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...if Sprint can do it without going bankrupt first.
This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Did it? Know how much money Sprint shoved into that network even though nearly everyone in the industry said it would never work? What do they have to show for it? A network that they will keep around for the next couple of years until they redo it with lte, what it should have been in the first place.
I'm glad you can use it and that it works good for you, that still doesn't replace the fact that it was a huge business mistake.
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Why are some people dying to get the EVO LTE when there is not LTE yet? From what I understand it will only work on the 3g and LTE network and for now the Sprint 3G sucks for the most part according to a lot of people. Didn't we learn from the Wimax fiasco? I live in Greensboro, NC and service here is really bad. We do have 4G if you can get it here and there so I would say we do not! I just don't see upgrading to a new technology phone when you can't take advantage of it for at least a year and some people 2-3 or more years. Yes, Sprint has to go to the LTE to survive but what if they don't and get bought out? No flaming just wondering. It is your money and you're free to choose the phone you like.
silly comment, dont buy it then, for some lte will be in there town very soon if not dont buy simple. its not all or nothing for all
this is a pointless thread
The phone is great without LTE. Also the wifi I'm around kills whatever LTE can do, Its gonna be a plus when its enabled.
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LTE is one of the things it can do great, the phone's hardware makes it one of the best out right now and thus makes me want it, to upgrade my old 3D and Nexus S
Many reasons to upgrade...
like mentioned before the phone itself is an upgrade without LTE!!
And for the comment, "...lets not forget the WiMax fiasco..." that was all on Clearwire not Sprint. Big difference. Yes Sprint has majority ownership in Clearwire but they do NOT handle the day-to-day decisions for them in any way. The rollout of LTE/NetworkVision is being done by Sprint and already well underway as the contractors have been assigned their areas and are on the ground doing the work right now across the US. Its happening whether people want to believe it or not.
Now, if you live in a well covered WiMax area and use WiMax a ton right now & are not in one of the cities set to get NetworkVision in round 1(link in my sig), THEN I completely understand NOT getting this device as you will lose your WiMax and be without any 4G use for a long period of time.
I am mainly doing it for the specs. It is easier to spend more money and have a phone last a couple of years with higher specs then it is to get a moderately average spec phone every year... If that makes sense.
I really would like to play with the NFC stuff though
Hey, I know that the phone itself is an upgrade but is it enough to make it worth the money and the 2 year contract? What if the roll out is not really fast? Sprint is a little short on money and people are going to Verizon or other services even though they are paying a little more every month. Heck, I am debating that move myself but I do not like Verizon customer service and I really really love my EVO 4G! Only phone I ever had for a full two years.
I would think that a new phone will be out in less than six months that will be better than the EVO LTE for a lot of us that do not have very good 3G service and some 4g service here and there. Like I said, I am not flaming anyone. I am just trying to understand the urge when most of us do not have the service to take advantage of the phone.
Data capabilities get too much attention. Who cares. I have Wifi and 3G. Hasn't bothered me yet having only them two.
You must be in an office situation must of the time. I spend about 6 hours or more everyday on the road. Data is very important to me.
typhoonikan said:
Data capabilities get too much attention. Who cares. I have Wifi and 3G. Hasn't bothered me yet having only them two.
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I was/will be there for you.
I have no problem upgrading to an LTE device, even if there is no LTE coverage in my area, I already know its coming to my area in the Round 2 rollout. Its time to upgrade my hardware to something better. The original EVO 4G was a game changer for the industry, and its successor will add to it - that is if it ever gets released in the country, and not permanently banned.
I'm getting the phone for the specs. 3g does all I need to do on the road and I honestly used 4g on about 3 times in my lifetime. Lte will be nice but I won't be seeing it around here for at least 18 months lol
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to the original poster you are absolutely correct the thing has no mobile data service on it. When the original evo came out (which i had and loved it) 3g at least worked ok so no wimax was no big deal. Now 3g is a joke. You want to poke fun at apple, think of the fools that bought an iphone on sprint, no mobile data there either. I really hope lte comes soon because without it sprint might not make it. If you test drive a phone anything like you test drive a car you will say no thanks and go to the next dealer down the road. Glad my evo3d has wimax in my town.
I have 4G in my town and I don't even use it now..And Sprint 3G is actually pretty good where I live.Over 1.2MB down stream.
Plus the phone is beast.
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Don't forget about those of us who don't even have access to WiMAX 4g anyway.
Outstanding phone - WiMAX - LTE > ok phone - WiMAX -LTE
Outstanding phone > ok phone
WOW!
If you get those 3G speeds than I can see getting the phone and and hoping for the new LTE coming. I barely get 150kbs if lucky(most of times between 5 and 70kbs) and if I get over 1Mbs is when I get on Wimax. My buddy's DroidX beats me almost each and every time especially on 3G. Heck, I check MSNBC a lot for news and sometimes it take more than two minutes just to load and sometimes I just close out of the browser because it is so slow. LOL
BrianBaker said:
I have 4G in my town and I don't even use it now..And Sprint 3G is actually pretty good where I live.Over 1.2MB down stream.
Plus the phone is beast.
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ejc1214 said:
Why are some people dying to get the EVO LTE when there is not LTE yet? From what I understand it will only work on the 3g and LTE network and for now the Sprint 3G sucks for the most part according to a lot of people. Didn't we learn from the Wimax fiasco? I live in Greensboro, NC and service here is really bad. We do have 4G if you can get it here and there so I would say we do not! I just don't see upgrading to a new technology phone when you can't take advantage of it for at least a year and some people 2-3 or more years. Yes, Sprint has to go to the LTE to survive but what if they don't and get bought out? No flaming just wondering. It is your money and you're free to choose the phone you like.
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Well for me personally lte in bmore is going live this month so it's perfect timing for me.
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I do not have wimax here and never will. I have a repeater at work and wifi at home along with an air rave. I want the device for performance, music and camera. I can happily wait for lte. Just give me the dam phone.
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Hey OP if you really want a HTC EVO LTE type on a fast network now. Complain to sprint so they can let you out of your contract then get a One X on AT&T.
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I moved out of a WiMax area over a year ago but my current area is getting LTE this summer. Even without LTE, I'm not losing speed and I'm gaining a much faster phone.
So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
woody296 said:
So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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Not really sure, however, Sprint offers unlimited data, Verizon doesn't, and Verizon is still the #1 in the U.S. So, what that says, is Sprint is lacking other major areas: spotty Wimax, no 4G LTE yet, poor phone line up. My experience is Sprint offers more for less, but, that's not enough to keep people from jumping ship.
I guess what I'm getting at, is how can this really hurt Sprint any more?
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
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I'd do the same, however, I'd blow through the data limit. I have no issues with my 3G service (although it's less than desirable in speed) or my reception (until I go in to Wal-Mart, lol!). 4G/Wimax sucks. I wouldn't be able to afford Verizon. My bill would easily increase by 50%.
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE.
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I don't think we have anything to worry about. Sprint can afford to keep unlimited data because their data speeds are 5 times slower than other carriers.
Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
I don't think Verizon's plan will harm us per say . I actually think that it will drum up a little business for Sprint with them finally having a good summer lineup of phones and being cheaper. However I believe the next year to year and a half will either make or break Sprint. I for one waited patiently for the promise of wimax now like 90% of Sprint subscribers I'm still waiting for Wimax and or waiting for LTE. There will come a time soon when I'll get tired of promises and ditch them for another network even if it costs more. I'm not a speed junky but the 2/3g towers are so overburdened it's a joke in the 12 states i've been to I've never EVER gotten more then 1.2 megs with wimax or 3g while my sister in law's crappy old og droid opens 2-3 webpages while I'm waiting on one.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
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I hope you are correct, the more i read about network vision and the different bandwidths etc the more confused i get
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I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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Ditto. According to the upgrade map on Sprint's site, every tower around my house has been upgraded, yet I still drop calls and get a max of 100kbps on 3g, even with full bars.
I am really struggling to find a reason to stay with Sprint. Sure it is great to have unlimited everything, but if I can't even place a phone call out of my kitchen, what's the value?
I'm waiting for the sgs3 to drop, if dev is the same for Sprint and Verizon. Then bye-bye Sprint.
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I'm glad im not the only one that feels this way. I pay $70/month for crappy service. I could be paying $80-85 and have great service. I think that's well worth the extra money.
Sprint has really dropped the ball. I got my evo 4g it was the best out. They followed with the evo 3d and was still good. Everything since then has been dissappointing. The new evo 4g lte is far from good enough to make me sign a new contract. They never even got the 4g working that well in my area, even though its supposed to be. Not signing a new contact in a few weeks when my old one is up for their broken promises
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Newklearx3 said:
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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i switched to the 0002 prl about two days ago and it's the best thing i've ever done lol
As mentioned their plan won't hurt us because we have a crappy network. Verizon can switch things up because their network actually performs. I can't switch because of those outrages prices and I'm pretty sure I would burn through a gig of data.
From the comments I read it seems like this move by Verizon may land Sprint and ATT some customers.
verizons plan will lose out on customers and bring more to other networks as said earlier in the thread. but it really depends on where you live, alltel and sprint have the better signals around here. plus you just cant beat unlimited data