StraightTalk on GalaxyNote(i717) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I am not a fan of contracts, especially since it cost ~$100/month(3GB/unlimited txt/talk) and $300 down ~ about $2,700 for two years for a galaxy note at at&t).
But... I really wanted a at&t's Galaxy Note. So here is what I did - I went to AmazonWireless and purchased an ATTi717 without contract for $700. After hearing about the low price for unlimited data/talk/text, I went to Straight talk and purchased a sim card with the 45$ unlimited plan(they have discounts for bulk purchases). This results in about $1,780 for two years without contract.
For some reason, I just couldn't get the data plan to work correctly(strange enough, youtube worked). After hours of research and being stuck without data, I decided to unlock, go root, flashed cwm, and flash various ROMs. Finally, I found one that worked that gave me full functionality.
Straight Talk APN Settings
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: n/a
Port: 80
Username: n/a
Password: n/a
Server: n/a
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 410
Authentication type: n/a
APN type: internet+mms
p.s. StraightTalk still uses at&t data network and they may still cap you
edit: i used wrong calculations first time. updated with right numbers.
edit2: read this post on the real reason why internet didnt work.

Can anyone COSIGN this....I am VERY Interested

you ended up saving 200 dollars over the span of 2 years. thats not worth it to me.
but others may see it as a plus.

It amazes me that at&t charges so much and yet you can get virtually the same service through a MVNO that uses their network for much less.

LMAO!! All that hassle to save $8.33 a month over 2 years! Oh well, guess it's worth it for some people.

the2rrell said:
you ended up saving 200 dollars over the span of 2 years. thats not worth it to me.
but others may see it as a plus.
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Actually, you can save up to $360 for 2 years if you buy the 1 year bulk from straight talk.
In addition, you are not locked into a contract. This is a BIG plus for someone like me who sells/buy/change Android devices all the time.
Galaxy Note hands down best smartphone tablet so far! Think I will stick with this one for a while.
highwayman1224 said:
LMAO!! All that hassle to save $8.33 a month over 2 years! Oh well, guess it's worth it for some people.
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Not really a hassle if you do it the right way the first time. Rooting/Flashing CWM takes about 10 minutes to do and flashing the right rom takes less than 5 mins. People will save time from my experience/pain

Can you pull a few speed tests for us? Prepaid carriers have always been kind of screwed with what they can do on the networks. The "use atts network" but they are relegated to the prepaid network which typically means less coverage, data speeds, and more likelihood of dropping calls in a high att contract area
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Nice find! I don't have that as a carrier, but the more things we find like this, the better! Great job.

Yea i think it's a hassle also, no lte makes it not worth it to anyone in an lte area and my understanding is that straight talks 3g is is about half as fast as att 3g, but my bill is also 90 a month and not 70
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Can you pull a few speed tests for us? Prepaid carriers have always been kind of screwed with what they can do on the networks. The "use atts network" but they are relegated to the prepaid network which typically means less coverage, data speeds, and more likelihood of dropping calls in a high att contract area
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First test on the list is with 4 bars, second is with 2 bars.
What speeds do you guys get on your LTE and/or 3G?

Where can I sign up for unlimited everything with AT&T for $70 bucs? I'm not talking about some plan thats not available anymore but a plan I can get now..
I went to AT&T.com and picked the Note with an unlimited minutes/texting/3gig data/insurance
The bill comes to $126.99 a month and thats not including all the BS fees tacked on at the end..So we'll just say $130 a month..
2 years = $3120
cost of phone= $150 (its 300 but hell ill cut a break here)
total = $3270
Straight Talk unlimited
2 years = $1080
cost of phone = $700
2 years insurance= $120
total = $1900
Yeah I'll save $1370 over 2 years and be able to sell the unbranded/unlocked phone for more at the end on ebay.

I love Straight Talk been using it on ATT phones since the Nokia Swap started I use about 7-8 gigs a month and it cost me 45 better then the att 2 gig cap

What would have happened if you had bought the Note for $149 during the promo period, buy out your contract after a month and pay $324? You could have had the phone for $473. That would be another $227 saved (plus the cost for 1 month of AT&T contract service) instead of buying it from Amazon at full price.
Sometimes you can save even more on the monthly if you buy the 6 month or 1 year prepaid cards from Amazon or eBay, which sometimes sells it less than buying it direct Straight Talk.

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What would have happened if you had bought the Note for $149 during the promo period, buy out your contract after a month and pay $324? You could have had the phone for $473. That would be another $227 saved (plus the cost for 1 month of AT&T contract service) instead of buying it from Amazon at full price.
Sometimes you can save even more on the monthly if you buy the 6 month or 1 year prepaid cards from Amazon or eBay, which sometimes sells it less than buying it direct Straight Talk.
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The total cost would be : subsidized $149 + activation fee $50 + tax $25 + 1 month of service($120) + ETF $324 ~ $620 and a hassled time to call AT&T to cancel it.

MrDSL said:
Where can I sign up for unlimited everything with AT&T for $70 bucs? I'm not talking about some plan thats not available anymore but a plan I can get now..
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I just went online and added AT&T Galaxy note with standard unlimited plan with 3gb data. I made a mistake and clicked on the 450 minute plan which resulted in $70. unlimited data with 3gb is about 100$ per month for individual
The total cost would be : subsidized $149 + activation fee $50 + tax $25 + 1 month of service($120) + ETF $324 ~ $620 and a hassled time to call AT&T to cancel it.
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Don't forget a major blow to your credit score. Everytime you sign up for a contract and fail to complete its service agreement of x-yrs(i.e. cancellation) your credit score goes down. Might as well open a chase checking account for the bonus rewards then close it if thats the case...

I just activated straight talk sim and got this and web and mms worked within 3 minutes of activation
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shaolinx said:
I just went online and added AT&T Galaxy note with standard unlimited plan with 3gb data.
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Hmmm the cheapest unlimited min plan I can find is $69.95 and thats not adding anything else..
Its safe to say that ST and buying unlocked is the cheapest way to go..Carriers aren't dumb and they know that locking you into contracts..

Got my unlocked euro Note on straight talk and i'm LOVING it! $45 a month for everythinh and peep these speeds

Twistedchild420 said:
Got my unlocked euro Note on straight talk and i'm LOVING it! $45 a month for everythinh and peep these speeds
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for some reason the speed test app does not work for me. I have the att sim. Does it work for everyone else?
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shaolinx said:
First test on the list is with 4 bars, second is with 2 bars.
What speeds do you guys get on your LTE and/or 3G?
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LTE caps at 50+ mb/s.
Kinda solves the debate of prepaid vs AT&T.

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[Q] sprint vs. verizon

Ok, I'm confused.....i hear a lot of complaints by Sprint users..
i'm a premium member(10yrs) living in Jacksonville and I am considering an upgrade from Hero to 3D but i need the 4g speed or it's pointless to upgrade.
Is Verizon really that much better for strength?
kinextions said:
Ok, I'm confused.....i hear a lot of complaints by Sprint users..
i'm a premium member(10yrs) living in Jacksonville and I am considering an upgrade from Hero to 3D but i need the 4g speed or it's pointless to upgrade.
Is Verizon really that much better for strength?
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Yes, Verizon LTE is the fastest right now.. but very expensive. I think they don't offer unlimited plan for LTE it will throttle you at 2 gig of data. But I'm not sure check their plan make sure you ask about unlimited LTE.
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Once the lte market finally gets a few more phones it will be slow like wimax but it will still have better penetration
epsix said:
Yes, Verizon LTE is the fastest right now.. but very expensive. I think they don't offer unlimited plan for LTE it will throttle you at 2 gig of data. But I'm not sure check their plan make sure you ask about unlimited LTE.
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Agreed.
I think there are other reasons to upgrade besides the 4G however.
In my opinion, the Evo 3D will be so much more than just a 4G phone. Even without 4G service in your area, the Evo 3D will deliver on all other aspects. My main reason I'm getting it is in the hardware alone. 1.2 Ghz dual-core with 1 GB RAM. Plus, it's the fastest CPU on the market to date.
LTE roll out has been halted by the feds due to interference with GPS and other services. So it may be a while.
Plus, speaking as a Verizon person now, you're way better off on Sprint. If I got the exact same plan I have now but with the addition of unlimited 4g data and an extra smart phone on Sprint, it'd cost me $140 less per month.
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In my opinion, the Evo 3D will be so much more than just a 4G phone. Even without 4G service in your area, the Evo 3D will deliver on all other aspects. My main reason I'm getting it is in the hardware alone. 1.2 Ghz dual-core with 1 GB RAM. Plus, it's the fastest CPU on the market to date.
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ok, thanks for all the replies........
so is 4G really as fast as comcast....because that is what a sprint dealer is telling me.
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ok, thanks for all the replies........
so is 4G really as fast as comcast....because that is what a sprint dealer is telling me.
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Everywhere speeds will vary like always. I can't speak on Comcast speeds but I've heard they're fast. On average Sprint's 4G is around 3-6 mbps, I may be wrong. It is however slightly slower than LTE.
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Once the lte market finally gets a few more phones it will be slow like wimax but it will still have better penetration
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thats what she said.
sorry.
carry on
Verizon's 4G is currently unlimited, and costs the same as their 3G data plans (no extra fee) contrary to prior posts in thread. All indications are that it won't be much longer though. The real kicker for anyone enthused for the evo3d is that no mention of a similarly spec'ed HTC device on Verizon at the moment...I'd give it 50/50 for appearing by late in the year.
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I'm sorry I must have missed it....whats the point of DeNiro?
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Have you seen goodfellas?
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If you want truly unlimited everything with Verizon, your total cost would be $119.98 before taxes or any other fees. That's $89.99 for talk and text, and another $29.99 for data. For the moment, they aren't charging any additional for 4G data on the T-bolt. But, they do cap all their customers at 5GB of data per month. It's all in the fine print.
"Verizon Wireless strives to provide customers the best experience when using our network, a shared resource among tens of millions of customers. To help achieve this, if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand. Our proactive management of the Verizon Wireless network is designed to ensure that the remaining 95% of data customers aren't negatively affected by the inordinate data consumption of just a few users."
You can choose a plan that gives you 900 minutes total, and unlimited calling to any 5 numbers you choose, along with unlimited text and data, for a total of $109.98. That might be the most comparable to the Sprint Everything Data plan. Which is 450 minutes total, but free calls to ANY mobile on ANY carrier, and also has unlimited text and data. The difference is, this is $69.99 from Sprint, with a $10 data charge, for a total of $79.99 before tax and fees.
And, Sprint is truly unlimited. Some users in the Evo 4g forum said that when they got to 35gb in one month, Sprint moved them to the slower connection speeds until a new bill cycle started. Verizon does this at 5gb.
Here is the pricing breakdown:
Sprint vs. Verizon
$99.99 vs $119.98 = Unlimited
$79.99 vs $109.98 = minutes, plus free calls to mobiles
Apples to apples is hard to compare, but for the price, Sprint is a lot more affordable. And the service will be comparable. When it comes to calling and 3g, Sprint roams on verizon towers anyway, and since you are unlimited, you can roam without penalties. I know this from experience.
My vote, stick with Sprint.
@ Bradleyw801.....actually i'm on the 69.99 450 minutes and unlimited everything else with the Hero...I dont want to pay more for Comcast high speed if I can upgrade $10 more with sprint to get 4G.
I think I'll stay with Sprint....thanks.
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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Do you know if everything plus referral program can be used in person at an authorized dealer? I'm porting my number to sprint when the EVO3d comes out and i don't want to have to ship my phone and be without service between the order and receiving of the phone.
osi13 said:
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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What is the russ.s.mcguire email and how do you get the discount????
osi13 said:
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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wow I didn't know they even offered Data-only, even if only for the deaf. Good to know...
aoaleman said:
Everywhere speeds will vary like always. I can't speak on Comcast speeds but I've heard they're fast. On average Sprint's 4G is around 3-6 mbps, I may be wrong. It is however slightly slower than LTE.
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I'm averaging 6-8mbps in downtown Chicago. I can't complain about that. Verizon's LTE is not much faster plus once their LTE coverage gets a little more saturated the speeds will come down. That was the same when Sprint first released WIMAX in chicago. We got very fast speeds from their first 4G data card until more devices started coming out. Either carrier has been good to me as far as service goes but it all comes down to Sprint being a cheaper option. I pay $81 a month, including taxes and fees, after my corporate discount on Sprint.

Thinking of switching to Straight Talk

I have been getting absolutely HORRIBLE service with T-mobile lately so I was thinking of switching to Straight Talk with an AT&T SIM card. I just unlocked my Amaze, and I saved the thread for unlocking my DH's Galaxy S4G. My daughter is getting an unlocked phone I won on eBay in a cpl days.
So my current contract with T-mobile is up in January 2014. That is 17 months. I have 3 lines on my family plan that I currently pay $240 a month for.
$240/month * 17 months = 4080 I would pay to finish my contract
3 * $200 = $600 ETF (Early Termination Fee)
$4080 left - $600 ETF = $3,480
$45/month (Straight Talk) * 3 lines = $135
$135/month * 17 months = $2,295
$3,480 - $2,295 = $1,185 savings
That's a whole lotta dough...
The only problem with this comes purchasing phones in the future.... I typically don't have $500+ to shell out for a new phone. Also I would no longer have the insurance on my phones.
Before I present this to my husband, I was wondering if anyone here has any input on it? Have you made the switch? What did you do to get a new phone when your phone was obsolete?
If you are getting poor reception in your house, then you can likely get out of your contract.
As for phones, the Galaxy Nexus from Google is only $349. Nice phone, no contract, unlocked, works with ATT and T-Mobile. Not sure what future phones from Google will cost, but it's a reasonable assumption that something near the $350 price point will be available.
Also read that if you overdo the data or tether, the SIM will be suspended. Its rare. But possible.
Also, if you use the Straight Talk cards, you got to do it the day your 30 days expire. Do it earlier, and you lose the time remaining on your previous card.
I believe if you have it automatically charge your credit card its easier. However every time you add your 45 Time Card, it resets your 30 days. Its only annoying part.
But seems the website makes it easier so that this doesn't happen.
I used this service. Personally was OK. Or you could go and use Straight Talk $40 unlimited talk text and data.
But.... MMS stopped working on me. Wouldn't send MMS after my 10th MMS message.
As long as you have a bunch of unlocked phones/spares and not afraid it will break/accidents you are good. Personally I've not had phones die on me. LG (Never again), HTC, Samsung. They are reliable all reliable. And if any of them do break is if I mess up when flashing/rooting.
What is your current plan. I'm a former Rep and I can probably save you guys a lot of money by giving you my suggestions.
I still get great phone service with T-Mobile. The crappy part is the customer service (phone services). You should walk into a T-Mobile store and have them look over your plan and see if they can make any adjustments to get your bill down. I only pay $145 for my 3 lines. You should also check if they offer a discount with your company.
hasoon2000 said:
What is your current plan. I'm a former Rep and I can probably save you guys a lot of money by giving you my suggestions.
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Classic Unlimited Talk & Text 5GB Web 2 lines
4G Web on daughter's line. It doesn't give a GB amount...
We also have the insurance on all 3 lines
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If you are getting poor reception in your house, then you can likely get out of your contract.
As for phones, the Galaxy Nexus from Google is only $349. Nice phone, no contract, unlocked, works with ATT and T-Mobile. Not sure what future phones from Google will cost, but it's a reasonable assumption that something near the $350 price point will be available.
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Nope... my house is the only place I get really good service. Its work and when I'm visiting my friend about 45min away that I get crappy service. I checked the map and it says 2G for her entire town. Maybe I should tell t-mobile I live there so I can get out of the contract LOL
My DH is the one who always loses his darn phone. Leaves it places LOL. The only time mine broke was when my little one thought it was a teething toy and got it all wet. My 15 year old goes through phones like clothes... I already put in a claim for her this year and got her a sidekick in which she cracked the screen shortly after. So now the adapter isn't working to charge it but I can't do a warranty exchange because the screen is broken and I wasn't about to shell out another $100 insurance copay for the POS sidekick so I bought her one on eBay for $30.
Nevermind you can't afford to go Prepaid option because there is no insurance.
Best you could do is threaten to port all your lines to T-Mobile prepaid service. When I did that, I got offered the 49.99 with Unlimited talk, text, and 2GB of data.
What my phone bill really is the $59.99 with a 10 dollar discount. Actually, my plan is the Value, meaning I can't get discount on upgrades. Need to pay full price for phone. I managed to add device insurance but I see it as waste since I haven't really broken any of my devices or damaged them by accident.
Just threaten to walk and you might get a better deal. Did that over a year ago.
Personally, I recommend going to the value plan. Much cheaper. You will save a lot in the log run. You can still add insurance to the phones but no discounts. Hell, I buy all my phones off of eBay and Craigslist. Much cheaper in the long run. Whoever's name is on the account may qualify for a discount program. Who's name is on the account and if they work at a company/go to school, you may be eligble to receive a discount on your plan ranging from 6% - 18%
I bought a year with my straight talk service. You prepay for eleven months and get twelve months service.
Straight talk offers:
CDMA phones = Verizon = 3G ^Cap Risk
GSM SIM = ATAT = 3G Lower
GSM SIM = T-Mobile = 4G Least risk
T-mobile sim will provide fastest data connection assuming you get equal or better signal and possibly true unlimited data!
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FutureAirways said:
Straight talk offers Atat, t-mobile sim cards for gsm phones right..but what you don't know t-mobile is the only company to get truly unlimited data on st. Also an this is big the t-mobile sim provides 4g service something the Atat one can't, because they have 3g , were t-mobile does not. But if you don't get service I guess it won't matter just food for thought. Same 45$ for 4g vs. 3g
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wat?
this entire post is confusing.
rachelm920 said:
I have been getting absolutely HORRIBLE service with T-mobile lately so I was thinking of switching to Straight Talk with an AT&T SIM card. I just unlocked my Amaze, and I saved the thread for unlocking my DH's Galaxy S4G. My daughter is getting an unlocked phone I won on eBay in a cpl days.
So my current contract with T-mobile is up in January 2014. That is 17 months. I have 3 lines on my family plan that I currently pay $240 a month for.
$240/month * 17 months = 4080 I would pay to finish my contract
3 * $200 = $600 ETF (Early Termination Fee)
$4080 left - $600 ETF = $3,480
$45/month (Straight Talk) * 3 lines = $135
$135/month * 17 months = $2,295
$3,480 - $2,295 = $1,185 savings
That's a whole lotta dough...
The only problem with this comes purchasing phones in the future.... I typically don't have $500+ to shell out for a new phone. Also I would no longer have the insurance on my phones.
Before I present this to my husband, I was wondering if anyone here has any input on it? Have you made the switch? What did you do to get a new phone when your phone was obsolete?
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Jeez, $240 for three lines seems really high. That's a car payment right there. We have three lines on AT&T, and our bill averages $160 month. You must have every possible option available.
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I would like to hear your suggestions sir. Im planning on making the switch to straight talk as well. I have one line at&t, and i go over my 3 gb of data a lot!!! So it seems smart to switch for 45 a month unlimited everything! Right? Thanks man!
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zounduser said:
Im planning on making the switch to straight talk as well. I have one line at&t, and i go over my 3 gb of data a lot!!! So it seems smart to switch for 45 a month unlimited everything! Right?
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This Straight Talk review seems to imply that their "unlimited" is really limited to 100MB per day and/or 2GB per month, after which you receive an excessive usage notification and service termination threat.
If you don't use allot of talk time, t-mobile's 5GB / 100 Min for $30 pre-paid may be a better deal.
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This Straight Talk review seems to imply that their "unlimited" is really limited to 100MB per day and/or 2GB per month, after which you receive an excessive usage notification and service termination threat.
If you don't use allot of talk time, t-mobile's 5GB / 100 Min for $30 pre-paid may be a better deal.
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Ya dont think imma do the straight talk thing now!!!! I piss 2gb everymorning!!! lmfao!!!!
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brainbone said:
This Straight Talk review seems to imply that their "unlimited" is really limited to 100MB per day and/or 2GB per month, after which you receive an excessive usage notification and service termination threat.
If you don't use allot of talk time, t-mobile's 5GB / 100 Min for $30 pre-paid may be a better deal.
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Please see my previous post, if you use a straight talk branded phone (verizon network) or the atat sim card there is a higher chance you will get a cap. Ive read reports of Tmobile sim card users going over 7GB in a month with no problems!! Obviously straight talk pays these companies, when your data is costing them more than 45 dollars a month you get cut off. The Tmobile sim provides the least risk for that as they are currently the cheapest network provider!!
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The Tmobile sim provides the least risk for that as they are currently the cheapest network provider!!
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The problem is that there is apparently no clear language from Straight Talk on this, for any of the networks they resell. The service may be called "Straight Talk", but just try to get a "Straight Answer" from them on their limits.
The 5gb prepaid you speak of. Do those mins count towards texting. ?
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The 5gb prepaid you speak of. Do those mins count towards texting. ?
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For t-mobile?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
The $30 "Unlimited Web & Text with 100 Talk Minutes" gets you 5GB data before being throttled, "unlimited" texts, and 100 min. talk time.

[Q] Convert VZW Note II to T-Mobile?

My wife and I are considering switching to T-Mobile when our Verizon contract runs out in June (tired of paying $100+ more a month for Verizon, especially since I have a funny feeling our grandfathered unlimited is on borrowed time). Right now I'm running an unlocked, rooted VZW Note II running CleanROM 4.5. Is there a way to permanently flash the phone over to T-Mobile (radios) if we decide? I really want the AWS bands so I'm not gimped with EDGE speeds as I am today (running the VZW radios/firmware).
So...is this possible?
Thanks!
No not really. You could try this link below. I've pmed the Dev (i pulled the Verizon qcn he needed) and he said it may work, but if not just restore the backup you make before.
Having said that I'm making the same switch and I've decide to sell my note, buy at mobile one under contract,(200 on there website right now) then pay the 200 to switch to a value plan.
So I'll pay 400 for a t mobile note and have the 50 unlimited plan. I can easily sell mine for 500 to 550 so I'll make 100 bucks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35933247
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I dont know were you are at but here in chicago t mobile is horrible and you have to keep in mind you get what you pay for
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boogief1 said:
I dont know were you are at but here in chicago t mobile is horrible and you have to keep in mind you get what you pay for
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South Carolina and they're fine here. Obviously not as good as Verizon, but i stay in the city 90 percent and on my wife's t mobile note they're great. In NC she had better signal then I did. On a plus side they're customer service is a million times better then Verizon could dream about being. I'd switch just for that
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No not really. You could try this link below. I've pmed the Dev (i pulled the Verizon qcn he needed) and he said it may work, but if not just restore the backup you make before.
Having said that I'm making the same switch and I've decide to sell my note, buy at mobile one under contract,(200 on there website right now) then pay the 200 to switch to a value plan.
So I'll pay 400 for a t mobile note and have the 50 unlimited plan. I can easily sell mine for 500 to 550 so I'll make 100 bucks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35933247
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Bid on a new Verizon Note II for $470. So how does the T-Mobile purchase & ETF work? As far as I remember you will need to pay tax over full price (not discounted) plus tax for ETF as well. Please let me know how it goes (actually money you'll need to spend for your plan). Thanks.
verizon's note II will accept a t-mobile microsim and work as a phone right away. you'll have to root it to add the proper apn for edge data, and you'll get t-mobiles 3g on the farmed 1900 bands.
here in SoCal, i get 3g about 70% of the time
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verizon's note II will accept a t-mobile microsim and work as a phone right away. you'll have to root it to add the proper apn for edge data, and you'll get t-mobiles 3g on the farmed 1900 bands.
here in SoCal, i get 3g about 70% of the time
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So aside from being locked into 2g if you aren't in a reframed 19900 band location does txt and mms work normally? Im primarily on wifi 95% of the time and switching out to TMO would save me over $100/mo for 2 lines I have with VZW. I popped in a TMO microsim but it wasnt an active one the network so all I got was the "welcome to tmobile" prompt for programming.
Using Jellybeans 13 with APN Editor hack. It picked up the GSM and correct APN from what I saw.
Yes it is possible to take your Note 2 from VZW to T-Mobile, Switched weeks ago
Yes it is possible, I've been running on a T-Mobile custom ROM now for the last 8 weeks and going back & forth between VZW and Solavei (T-Mobile).I have been running the Tweaked 1.5 and just recently it updated to Tweaked 1.6 both are for the T-Mobile Note2 sch-T889.
It has been flawless and I never pass up the opportunity to brag about this and show it off to both Verizon customers and T-Mobile customers
as well. The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is the best Android handset I've ever owned... It will a pretty Awesome Android handset to even come close to the Note2's abilities and excellent engineering.. So a huge Thank You to Samsung and hey "Verizon Suck It" your rule of consumer manipulation and robbery will come to an end one day.... Jerks
danielfeng said:
Bid on a new Verizon Note II for $470. So how does the T-Mobile purchase & ETF work? As far as I remember you will need to pay tax over full price (not discounted) plus tax for ETF as well. Please let me know how it goes (actually money you'll need to spend for your plan). Thanks.
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Oops missed this. I paid 278 plus tax at Walmart then 200 fee plus tax so like 500 for a brand new phone.
We did great for my wife. 278 plus tax, but got a50 gift card. Then 200 fee, but called them and they waived it. Something about a remorse wave. So 250 basically. I'm waiting for my bill with fee to see if theyll do it again.
By the way with my discount I pay 85 for unlimited everything! Coverage is no where near Verizon, but what do you expect. But the big issue is wifi calling. In the hospital I work no one gets service, but me!
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Oops missed this. I paid 278 plus tax at Walmart then 200 fee plus tax so like 500 for a brand new phone.
We did great for my wife. 278 plus tax, but got a50 gift card. Then 200 fee, but called them and they waived it. Something about a remorse wave. So 250 basically. I'm waiting for my bill with fee to see if theyll do it again.
By the way with my discount I pay 85 for unlimited everything! Coverage is no where near Verizon, but what do you expect. But the big issue is wifi calling. In the hospital I work no one gets service, but me!
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How did your wife get such a great deal? Could you please share some technique to let them waive the ETF? If that works then I'll definitely grab one or two. Thanks.
The gift card was just a promo Walmart was running. There fee there really isn't atip. When my first bill came in it had the 200 fee, and two months of service (done weird way it billed after getting my discount put on).
I just called and explained I switched from Verizon to save money and asked if they could discount some of these fees. I was hoping for activation fee waived and maybe a small percent off. Instead she said she could refund the 200
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The gift card was just a promo Walmart was running. There fee there really isn't atip. When my first bill came in it had the 200 fee, and two months of service (done weird way it billed after getting my discount put on).
I just called and explained I switched from Verizon to save money and asked if they could discount some of these fees. I was hoping for activation fee waived and maybe a small percent off. Instead she said she could refund the 200
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So do you need to be with TMO or you can switch to others? The $200 was for ETF?
APN for T-Mobile on version galaxy notes 2
cjk2010 said:
So aside from being locked into 2g if you aren't in a reframed 19900 band location does txt and mms work normally? Im primarily on wifi 95% of the time and switching out to TMO would save me over $100/mo for 2 lines I have with VZW. I popped in a TMO microsim but it wasnt an active one the network so all I got was the "welcome to tmobile" prompt for programming.
Using Jellybeans 13 with APN Editor hack. It picked up the GSM and correct APN from what I saw.
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Bid on a new Verizon Note II for $470. So how does the T-Mobile purchase & ETF work? As far as I remember you will need to pay tax over full price (not discounted) plus tax for ETF as well. Please let me know how it goes (actually money you'll need to spend for your plan). Thanks.
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Thank you for the information.
I took my phone to one of the repair store. They didn't have to root the phone and they are still able to add the new APN.
I can surf the web now. However, the picture text message is not working. Do you how to fix it? Can you please help?
Best Regards,
kintwofan said:
No not really. You could try this link below. I've pmed the Dev (i pulled the Verizon qcn he needed) and he said it may work, but if not just restore the backup you make before.
Having said that I'm making the same switch and I've decide to sell my note, buy at mobile one under contract,(200 on there website right now) then pay the 200 to switch to a value plan.
So I'll pay 400 for a t mobile note and have the 50 unlimited plan. I can easily sell mine for 500 to 550 so I'll make 100 bucks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35933247
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And the 50 dollar unlimited only gives you 500 mb data. Realistically unlimited talk, text, and data will be 70 a month. Or you can get 2.5 gigs of data for 60 per line. I just left t-mobile, be prepared that your service will not work indoors in a lot of places as they don't not have. Low frequency like Verizon and att. Plus you will run into a lot of dead zones if you travel. Otherwise it is a really cheap plan. I just can't stand paying for a phone and unable to use it for half a day.
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Even though this thread is like, 6 months old, I thought I would add my .02.
I recently purchased a GoPhone sim for AT&T prepaid. $60 month unlimited talk/text & 2gb data. I am getting HSPA+ speeds with my Verizon GN2. While it is NOWHERE near the LTE speeds I get on Verizon, it is also 1/2 the cost. plus, if needed, I can purchase extra data at $10 per gig. I average 2-3gb per month now, & my plan with unlimited data, 900 texts & 1000 minutes is $112.
If I sell my Verizon phone & buy a AT&T N2, I will get LTE with GoPhone.
Tried tmobile for 3 hours with a brand new note 2 and demanded refund. The service was awful... I mean horrible. Picked up a used note 2 and stayed with vzw. Worst phone experience ever. Run far away from tmobile.

Samsung Galaxy Gear S - Release and Price Breakdown

So excited hearing the news, Samsung Gear S Comes to ATT.com and AT&T Stores Starting November 7th. Below is the pricing breakdown chart I made for you guys, what do you think?
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Price: $199.99
Contract: 2 Years
Data: $10 per Month
2 Year Total: $439.99
T-Mobile:
Price: $349 outright, or $14.58 per month
Contract: Optional 2 Years
Data: $5 per Month
2 Year Total: $469.92
Sprint:
Price: $384 outright, or $16 per month
Contract: Optional 2 Years
Data: $10 per Month (Waiving Monthly Fee through December 2015 if you sign up for 20GB or higher Family Share)
2 Year Total: $504 / $384 (waived fee)
Verizon:
Price: UNKNOWN
Contract: UNKNOWN
Data: UNKNOWN
http://blogs.att.net/consumerblog/story/a7796337
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Sprint:
Price: $384 outright, or $16 per month
Contract: Optional 2 Years
Data: $10 per Month (Waiving Monthly Fee through December 2015 if you sign up for 20GB or higher Family Share)
2 Year Total: $504 / $384 (waived fee)
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Wonder if us on the Unlimited Family Sprint plan would qualify for the waiving of the $10/mo
I like the ATT price but I wonder if samsung will make a new version after a year. If the due I will be stuck under contract for another year. While I dont always jump and get the newest devices, I dont like the idea of being under a contract for 2 years. I may be ok and just may be over thinking it. Maybe I can just pay my way out of the contract if they do come out with a new version.
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I like the ATT price but I wonder if samsung will make a new version after a year. If the due I will be stuck under contract for another year. While I dont always jump and get the newest devices, I dont like the idea of being under a contract for 2 years. I may be ok and just may be over thinking it. Maybe I can just pay my way out of the contract if they do come out with a new version.
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I bank on samsung releasing another, and at the outright price this thing is coming out with ($3-400, I paid $300 for the original gear and feel comfortable around this price for these watches) I'll just buy the next one outright and swap the Sim, they can't force you to keep the same watch.
wow your right. I forgot all about that.
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Wonder if us on the Unlimited Family Sprint plan would qualify for the waiving of the $10/mo
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Sprint customers can purchase the Gear S for $0 down, and 24 monthly payments of $16 ($384 total), but will also have to pay an additional $10 per month on its Family Share Pack plan. However, Sprint is waiving the monthly fee through December 2015 if you sign up for a 20GB or higher Family Share Pack plan. However, the Gear S will use Sprint's 3G network, and not its LTE network.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-gear-s-pricing-availability,news-19852.html
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rfs830 said:
I like the ATT price but I wonder if samsung will make a new version after a year. If the due I will be stuck under contract for another year. While I dont always jump and get the newest devices, I dont like the idea of being under a contract for 2 years. I may be ok and just may be over thinking it. Maybe I can just pay my way out of the contract if they do come out with a new version.
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I believe once the S6 comes out March or so the gear S2 or whatever they call it will be released as well Samsung is working on another version already. Hopefully the new version will include a camera that can use front face camera for skype/tango ect (wishful thinking I know but a dreamer can dream)
Guys and Gals talking about AT&T... I think what you have to be interested in is adding the $10/month for 24-months...or forever, haha. Once you take that jump of paying $10 a month for a smartwatch, you'll probably never go back right?
Its just like adding a data play to a tablet. The phone will need data to be able to get calls so Im ok with that.
Hi all, the Gear S is a 3G/2G device, it does not support LTE, therefore it won't work on LTE bands.
joytest said:
Hi all, the Gear S is a 3G/2G device, it does not support LTE, therefore it won't work on LTE bands.
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Does anyone know if the mini opera browser will work just using bluetooth connection not with a sim card?
Verizon Customer support told me...
The unit would be available 11/7/2104.
$399 off contract
$349 with a 2 year contact
$5 dollars a month.
I don't recall what $5 a months gets you in terms of data sorry.
I think i'll grab one. I have a Note 3 and if I like the watch I'll go for a Note 4. If I don't like the watch i'll go with a Nexus 6 or less likely a Droid Turbo.
Take care,
Flip
Anyone talk to a sales rep in a Verizon store?
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Anyone talk to a sales rep in a Verizon store?
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I called a brick and mortar store. They said it was true that Verizon would have them on Friday (11/7/2014) but they did not know if their actual store would get any. They told me to call back on 11/7/2014 because they never know what inventory their are going to get until the same day.
Happy hunting!
If Verizon is 400 off contract price, I think ATT will be the same. All in all I think I may just get on contract.
I hope your source is accurate. I called several Verizon stores and tweeted the VZW news and they have not received a release date. Same song and dance at Best Buy. I considered buying a t-mobile watch but learned that the watches are carrier specific. Sux! I'll ring them again on Friday morning to see if they have them in stock. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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I hope your source is accurate. I called several Verizon stores and tweeted the VZW news and they have not received a release date. Same song and dance at Best Buy. I considered buying a t-mobile watch but learned that the watches are carrier specific. Sux! I'll ring them again on Friday morning to see if they have them in stock. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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+1 Verizon never releases on time with the other carriers AT&T & Sprint will release on Nov 7th T-mobile will release Nov 9th so my guess is Verizon will come a week later
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/30/samsung-gear-s/18197313/
NOOOOOOO! Stop being a kill joy!
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NOOOOOOO! Stop being a kill joy!
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LOL #FACTS
I suppose I need to take trip to my VZW store Friday and see. Unfortunately no money for the watch this month.
Just purchased my gear s from an Att store in Houston. Price is $299 w/o contract and $199 w/ 2 yrs contract. I chose the 2yrs contract as with my discount the line would $5/month on family share .

T-Mobile Plan Clarification [READ]

Hey everyone.
T-Mobile Pricing:
COMPLETELY Standalone Plan: $15/Mo (Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data)
Connected to existing plan: $5/Mo
Source:
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/samsung-gear-s-data-plan-bundle.html
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Hey everyone.
T-Mobile Pricing:
COMPLETELY Standalone Plan: $15/Mo (Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data)
Connected to existing plan: $5/Mo
Source:
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/samsung-gear-s-data-plan-bundle.html
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Complete standalone if you pay full price?
Pay just $5/mo. when paired with a compatible Samsung Galaxy smartphone on a qualifying Simple Choice plan*
Simple Choice for Wearables: Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data 15$ a Month
This plan includes:
No annual service contracts.
Just $5 monthly (after $10 monthly bill credit) when you also have a qualifying Simple Choice voice plan for a smartphone on your account.
Unlimited talk & text while on our network with no overages. Ever.
Up to 500MB of high-speed 4G LTE data.
Unlimited international data and text while roaming in 120+ countries and destinations and calls are just $0.20 per minute.
Music Freedom: unlimited streaming from great services like Milk Music™ that doesn’t count against your 4G LTE data allocation included at no extra charge with a Simple Choice Plan.
so if you don't have t-mobile paying full price
One-time Fees
Due Today 1 Due Monthly 2
Standard shipping is always FREE.
Tax and shipping3 will be added when the shipping address is provided.
$0.00
$359.92
$15.00/mo
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390.51 out the door including 10 sim kit and you pay 15$ a month
That's odd that they say LTE. The FCC says they tested only HSPA+ which t-mobile calls 4G.
Thanks for the post though! This is helpful. Straight Talk is more expensive.
There doesn't seem to be a price deduction for the phone with the $15 plan. Assuming I'm reading it correctly.
So 350+15 for complete standalone.
Not something I would personally get
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There doesn't seem to be a price deduction for the phone with the $15 plan. Assuming I'm reading it correctly.
So 350+15 for complete standalone.
Not something I would personally get
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You only get it if you are a current post pay customer. If you're not, you be better off buying it off AT&T.
I am also guessing the $30 Walmart t-mobile plans don't count?
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You only get it if you are a current post pay customer. If you're not, you be better off buying it off AT&T.
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Why would it be better to buy it from AT&T? AT&T also requires that it be part of their plan. Now sure you can buy it in full than take it to T-Mobile but then no AWS bands right?
The only one that seems to let people get it with a plan without having previous coverage is T-Mobile and Sprint. T-Mobile is $15 and Sprint is $10. Though T-Mobile gives you more stuff.
Alpha06 said:
Hey everyone.
T-Mobile Pricing:
COMPLETELY Standalone Plan: $15/Mo (Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data)
Connected to existing plan: $5/Mo
Source:
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/samsung-gear-s-data-plan-bundle.html
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BREAKING NEWS
I am official on the T-mobile GS Train. 256$ out the door with 15$ a month for the watch plan free texting/call 500MB a month on 4GLTE (Supposedly) and if I go over 500MB within the month I will be brought down to 2G the rest of that month Streaming music is free (Spotify, milk music ect.). So to make it clear I HAVE SPRINT Note 4 T-Mobile GS total cost for my phone& GS bill each month 70 a month. I returned the AT&T one as it would not benefit me in the end .
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BREAKING NEWS
I am official on the T-mobile GS Train. 256$ out the door with 15$ a month for the watch plan free texting/call 500MB a month on 4GLTE (Supposedly) and if I go over 500MB within the month I will be brought down to 2G the rest of that month Streaming music is free (Spotify, milk music ect.). So to make it clear I HAVE SPRINT Note 4 T-Mobile GS total cost for my phone& GS bill each month 70 a month. I returned the AT&T one as it would not benefit me in the end .
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How $256 out the door. I just got one & paid $35 out the door, but I did the financing. I have a Verizon Note 4 & T-mobile GS. If I could get the GS for. $256, is rather do that than financing...... SO how.
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How $256 out the door. I just got one & paid $35 out the door, but I did the financing. I have a Verizon Note 4 & T-mobile GS. If I could get the GS for. $256, is rather do that than financing...... SO how.
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I guess they felt sorry for me :angel: I don't know call it a managers discount. Maybe he felt sorry for me and really wanted me as a Customer per say.
did you get the 15$ plan? or just walk out with the GS?
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I guess they felt sorry for me :angel: I don't know call it a managers discount. Maybe he felt sorry for me and really wanted me as a Customer per say.
did you get the 15$ plan? or just walk out with the GS?
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I took the $15 plan with financing & $10 insurance since they told me I can upgrade for free when they release a new version after I was at least 1/2 done in financing.
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I took the $15 plan with financing & $10 insurance since they told me I can upgrade for free when they release a new version after I was at least 1/2 done in financing.
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They asked me about insurance I didn't know you could trade up. But I'll cross that bridge when it comes hopefully next GS will have camera and IR blaster like Gear 2. But we get 4G yeahhh
Uniquebarbee said:
BREAKING NEWS
I am official on the T-mobile GS Train. 256$ out the door with 15$ a month for the watch plan free texting/call 500MB a month on 4GLTE (Supposedly) and if I go over 500MB within the month I will be brought down to 2G the rest of that month Streaming music is free (Spotify, milk music ect.). So to make it clear I HAVE SPRINT Note 4 T-Mobile GS total cost for my phone& GS bill each month 70 a month. I returned the AT&T one as it would not benefit me in the end .
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Im confused how you are going to use spotify? Milk sucky service is on the watch but not spotify. Also LTE wont matter on such a small device. The one data app we can use is opera mobile. That hardly takes 3g to render fast images. Also you do know that the watch pan is waived for an entire year with sprint since thats whom you already have right? You dont have to pay a dime till Dec 2015. Im lost on your savings. Yes you saved $100 out right with tmobile by buying the watch up front but paying more in the end. Sprint i pay 0 down and $16 month for 24 months or till i pay $380. No service charges till at least dec 2015.
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Im confused how you are going to use spotify? Milk sucky service is on the watch but not spotify. Also LTE wont matter on such a small device. The one data app we can use is opera mobile. That hardly takes 3g to render fast images. Also you do know that the watch pan is waived for an entire year with sprint since thats whom you already have right? You dont have to pay a dime till Dec 2015. Im lost on your savings. Yes you saved $100 out right with tmobile by buying the watch up front but paying more in the end. Sprint i pay 0 down and $16 month for 24 months or till i pay $380. No service charges till at least dec 2015.
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I do not have a family plan I have unlimited myway I was told to get on the 9.99 plan with sprint or add to a family share plan of 20GB or higher. Sprint has spotify which I don;t use anyway
Picked mine up today. $349.92 outright purchase. $20.00 activation, $10.00 some card kit, $5.00 per month added to my bill! Pretty cool device.
dugryce said:
Picked mine up today. $349.92 outright purchase. $20.00 activation, $10.00 some card kit, $5.00 per month added to my bill! Pretty cool device.
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:good::highfive: welcome aboard

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