New ATT data throttle thresholds - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Looks like the LTE unlimited plan will not be throttled before 5GB. HSPA+ is 3GB.
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planoman said:
Looks like the LTE unlimited plan will not be throttled before 5GB. HSPA+ is 3GB.
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WIN!
Source: http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U

Nevermind...

So still not like Verizon, where the throttle is temporary based on location and load.
Yay.

Oh darn you beat me to it. But I dont read it as only hspa+ customers will be throttled at 3gb, I understood it as all unlimited customers.

SysAdmNj said:
Oh darn you beat me to it. But I dont read it as only hspa+ customers will be throttled at 3gb, I understood it as all unlimited customers.
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Negative. "If you have a 4G LTE smartphone and still have an unlimited data plan, the same process applies at 5GB of data usage, instead of 3GB."

so.. I'm confused. If i have an LTE phone in a market where there is no LTE --- is my threshold still 5GB? or is it 3GB?

randaddy said:
Negative. "If you have a 4G LTE smartphone and still have an unlimited data plan, the same process applies at 5GB of data usage, instead of 3GB."
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Where is that quote coming from? I dont see it in the announcement page. Damm, hope I dont need new glasses lol.
Update: Ahh, you clicked the "what you need to know" button. Thats cool I guess. Are they admitting lte phones eat up much more data?

Kind of have to take this news with a grain of salt. 5GB was the prior threshold anyway, so LTE users aren't gaining any extra bandwidth prior to being throttled. Non-LTE users are just getting less.

s1mpd1ddy said:
so.. I'm confused. If i have an LTE phone in a market where there is no LTE --- is my threshold still 5GB? or is it 3GB?
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Good question but I'm thinking depending of what unlimited plan is stated on your account setting.

SysAdmNj said:
Good question but I'm thinking depending of what unlimited plan is stated on your account setting.
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I would think it would be determined off of the actual data plan attached to the phone. For example, notes have lte data. Where original s2 has hspa+ data.
Just glad I don't have to freak out about going over 2gb now.
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scotty2hotty1125 said:
Kind of have to take this news with a grain of salt. 5GB was the prior threshold anyway, so LTE users aren't gaining any extra bandwidth prior to being throttled. Non-LTE users are just getting less.
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No it wasn't the previous threshold, explain all the users throttled at 2GB or less in January. Like me. This at least explains what "top 5%" means finally, and spells out when you will be throttled.

id10terrordfw said:
No it wasn't the previous threshold, explain all the users throttled at 2GB or less in January. Like me. This at least explains what "top 5%" means finally, and spells out when you will be throttled.
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That was confirmed ro be a glitch in the system... Those that called in were unthrottled
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s1mpd1ddy said:
so.. I'm confused. If i have an LTE phone in a market where there is no LTE --- is my threshold still 5GB? or is it 3GB?
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Do you have an LTE plan? I read it to mean if you have the plan regardless of whether you are in an LTE area. You could always travel to an LTE area and need more data...
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hiii_imkris said:
I would think it would be determined off of the actual data plan attached to the phone. For example, notes have lte data. Where original s2 has hspa+ data.
Just glad I don't have to freak out about going over 2gb now.
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Thats what I said though lol. There are 2 selections for unlmited plans, you can view them online as well under manage features. Smartphone personal unlmited and lte personal unlimited. When I had the note, yes I returned it..long story, I had the lte unlimited plan. This morning it automatically switched back to the smartphone personal plan which I guess I'll be throttled at 3gb instead of 5gb. I thought I may have been left on the lte unlimited plan. Either way this is a good step for us unlimited data customers but still not great.

id10terrordfw said:
No it wasn't the previous threshold, explain all the users throttled at 2GB or less in January. Like me. This at least explains what "top 5%" means finally, and spells out when you will be throttled.
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5GB was the unofficial mark for throttling last year until they lost their mind and started throttling unlimited plan users before 3GB even though we were paying the same as the tier plan for 3 GB. That is when ATT lost all credibility. I have never used over 2 GB but would have like to have seen a higher limit of like 8 or 10 GB.
At least we do not have a moving limit now we can plan accordingly.
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Thankfully the arent using previous billing cycle lol....i am like 12gb this month
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Still not satisfied with 5GB

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That was confirmed ro be a glitch in the system... Those that called in were unthrottled
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Not all of us.

Still bull****. They should be sued to death
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Related

What did they do to my account

What does this mean
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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I went through that during the time I activated my phone and I'm still clarifying some AT&T screw up on my account right now. Make sure that your grandfathered in data plan is transferred over and no "pro-rated" addition $10 is added.
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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You didn't notice. The unlimited deactivated is still growing while the new unlimited is still at zero. I will stop by att after work and see about that and the messaging color not changing. Ill see if it changes on the demo and request a new one if it works on that. Hate white background
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Figures, went to att and asked them about it. Tried it again as they looked thru system and it fixed durring the day today some how.
That's a lot of messaging.
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There's nothing wrong with any of that.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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That messaging is 5 phones on a family plan. 3 kids typing away
ifalldownalot said:
my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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My kids do the same thing because they have data blocked
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
nymviper1126 said:
How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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They say they start throttling but I've yet to go over that lately anyways, but there are ways around that too. I have no idea about what vzw users are doing to cheat the vzw system lol. I've thought about going back to vzw, but at the moment its like leaving one thief for another.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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It seems to be like how Comcast does throttling. They nab up a hand full of people and smack them down. Who knows. I've broke past the 4GB mark a few times.

New att throttle policy really not affecting my usage

after being throttle to .6 mb this cicle i have to say im not seing a difference in my usage
i currently am at 9gbs of usage this month and am able to still stream my nba games live at throttled speeds still.
i currently am doing my parctice were i use my phone a lot for video chat and photo taking for price checking and inventory.
I aint tryying to denfend att in no way in fact i did start a complaint here in puerto rico fcc equivalent when this whole five percent thing started to the point of having to talk to there customer service manager.
But is it really affecting you guys as much?
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I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
blazeplacid said:
wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
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That sucks. That almost happened to me this time when I changed my phone to GNote from Atrix. ATT tried to pull a fast one by charging me the same price for 3gb of data. It wasn't a difficult process but they did have to make a claim. Nowadays even supervisors can't change the plan... Thankfully, i keep a good eye on my usage.
I wonder if you guys can get the unlimited data plan back with the iPhone 2G (aka Original iPhone) trick. Get an old iPhone, activate it on iTunes and it will get you the unlimited data plan since that was the only plan available for the iPhone 2G. Don't know if that loophole was closed but some people have claimed they tried it in December and it was still working as of then.
EDIT: Looks like that loophole has been closed and no longer works
Beats getting overcharged i guess buat am able to use my phone normally so maybe now att is using there heads
or you can go the verizon way and have an 10gb plan (20gb if ya bought it at christmas time)
now theres a plan i dont think anyone will cross
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The new policy did say 4G LTE users would not be slowed down as much as hspa +/3G users, of course they did not specify speeds.
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OkNewMedia said:
I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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Im not tethering but i.dont have access to wifi also and i watch nba games all the time on my device and use google music as my main music player
gb of data will soon mean nothing with all the cool.stuff coming out for phones
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All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
lordbond said:
they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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00mred00 said:
All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
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Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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Vcolassi said:
What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
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i used 2gb after 10 days into billing cycle
all i do is play games / browse website
i didnt even tether / stream / youtube once
When I get throttled I just get myself unthrottled. The ImEi trick always works
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Change APN, don't get throttled?
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carhigh said:
Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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They've been doing it for months and its everywhere not just in select areas but most people wouldn't ever use enough data to get throttled.
The only real change is that now they've set the throttle cap at 3gb for HSPA+ phones & 5gb for LTE phones. Up until last month they were basing the throttling on being in the 'top 5%' of other users in your area, which resulted in people on 'unlimited plans' getting throttled under 2gb.
Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Well thanks for the thanks anyway lol.. I was always suspicious of how they were throttling but now that they've set some actual numbers in stone I feel a little better about it. I'm a little irritated though that I pay for two identical unlimited data plans (for the past 5 years) and now one gives me 3GB while the other gives me 5GB.. even though I pay the same for both.. Oh well, its better than randomly being throttled at 2GB I guess.
At about 6.5gbs (which is pretty low for my average monthly usage) and have not been throttled even after reviving notification.
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Well...it is true that they are supposedly trying to only throttle in areas that are congested
That could explain the lack of throttling of some.
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[Q]AT&T Throttle speeds

I received this text from AT&T today(see below)... Was wondering if they really do and how much they will throttle me.
The text
" ATT Free Msg: Your data usage on your 4G LTE smartphone is near 5GB this month. Exceeding 5GB during this or future billing cycles will result in reduced data speeds, though you'll still be able to email & surf the web. Wi-Fi helps you avoid reduced speeds. Visit www.att.com/datainfo or call 866-344-7584 for more info."
Thanks!
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Someone else posted that they were throttled to .6 mbps after hitting 5gb.
Were u on a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to an unlimited lte plan?
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Someone else posted that they were throttled to .6 mbps after hitting 5gb.
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.6 Mbps from what?
Because I get on average ~20-35 Mbps I might die if I got .6...
RMXO said:
Were u on a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to an unlimited lte plan?
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Yeah I was grandfathered unlimited plan and switched over.
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Yeah I was grandfathered unlimited plan and switched over.
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Shucks that sucks. Guess, I need to set my bandwitdh notification down from 9GB to 4GB.
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Shucks that sucks. Guess, I need to set my bandwitdh notification down from 9GB to 4GB.
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Hahaha I guess I should set mine to 4.99 just so I don't reach the cap.
Or would only 4gb be safer ?
Also what app do you use to track it anyway?
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Hahaha I guess I should set mine to 4.99 just so I don't reach the cap.
Or would only 4gb be safer ?
Also what app do you use to track it anyway?
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I'm using onavo personally. What about everyone else?
Unlimited grandfathered in plans get throttled at 5GB for 4G LTE data plans and I believe 2 or 3 GB for 3G & HSPA+ data plan.
If you have ICS, go to system settings then click data usage. You can set a data limit also. Its built in so you wont need to download an app.
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.6 Mbps from what?
Because I get on average ~20-35 Mbps I might die if I got .6...
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From whatever the theoretical max bandwidth available for their area. Once they hit 5GB of usage, their speed was capped at .6 Mbps.
This was only one data point though, so as always, YMMV.
I hit ten plus gigs a month. They throttle at five but it's very easy to get un throttled. Just look into the ImEi trick . Basically call and update your imei with a 4g phone. Then call back with lte note and update. You are un throttled. Don't let them limit your data Usage.
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I hit ten plus gigs a month. They throttle at five but it's very easy to get un throttled. Just look into the ImEi trick . Basically call and update your imei with a 4g phone. Then call back with lte note and update. You are un throttled. Don't let them limit your data Usage.
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I did a search but can't find it, do you happen to have a link?
Does this really work though?
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I did a search but can't find it, do you happen to have a link?
Does this really work though?
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This is from the infuse forum. More people should know about this. It is really simple. Lol people have pm me since I have always mentioned this on throttling threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22532530
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Anyone know an alternative to this IMEI trick because I no longer have access to my old infuse so I don't really have the ability to "update" my IMEI.
Thankfully my billing cycle just restarted today, I was at 4.8GB so I was nearing their 5gb mark.
I did some more research on this matter and found these three potential fixes, has anyone confirmed that it works on the Gnote?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406864
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342111
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http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/...rottle-4g-data-anti-throttling-trick-for-att/

LTE question

So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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You can call ATT to verify but I'm pretty sure you can use a normal data plan. Your account needs to be provisioned for LTE for it to work (and with the SIM iirc), but you should still be able to pull hspa+ with no issues.
I wasn't charged anything extra for having LTE provisioned on my account, but I'm also grandfathered unlimited.
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Yeah, it will depend greatly on the actual AT&T person who sets you up. Bottom line is that technically, you can use the Note without being provisioned for LTE. My girlfriend and I both had our Notes set up on our old data plan for a couple of months before a store realized the error while fishing in our account for other stuff.
Ok. I actually just called them.
The guy basically said that no matter what I get for data 3g/4g/LTE its all the same price.
It just depends on how much data she wants.
Can anyone confirm this?
She had a 2gb data plan from like 2 1/2 years ago. They don't offer that so they said regardless we are going to be charged more once we upgrade the contract.
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Yeah the 2gb plan is no longer available, it's now like 500mb for 20 3gb for 30 and i dint remember how much the 5gb plan was cause i went with the 3gb
The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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OK sweet. Thanks.
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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.
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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.
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I have sprint so I don't worry about it. But I always check for my gf. She is always so close to going over. Lol.
Then I'm like " No more internet". Haha.
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xshaftx said:
The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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Why do you say for the time being? Are they trying to do away with the grandfathered unlimited? Honestly...that's the only reason I stuck with ATT
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No i haven't heard that they will, but they can at any time. The way things are going its bound to happen at some point.
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Throttling

Any updated tricks to get around the dreaded AT&T throttling for unlimited users besides not using so much data? None of the APN settings I try work.
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I personally haven't seen any successful workaround for the throttling posted here on XDA.
Bsmith0731 said:
Any updated tricks to get around the dreaded AT&T throttling for unlimited users besides not using so much data? None of the APN settings I try work.
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I've been trying to figure this out since I had my Galaxy S3 with no luck. I don't think its really do-able. I'm about to break down and switch to one of the 10GB shared family plans as I'm the only one on my account that uses any data.
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I personally haven't seen any successful workaround for the throttling posted here on XDA.
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The old swapping of the APN used to work for me..
zacharyt86 said:
I've been trying to figure this out since I had my Galaxy S3 with no luck. I don't think its really do-able. I'm about to break down and switch to one of the 10GB shared family plans as I'm the only one on my account that uses any data.
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It's Almost pointless to keep unlimited. That throttle speed is horrible.
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Bsmith0731 said:
The old swapping of the APN used to work for me..
It's Almost pointless to keep unlimited. That throttle speed is horrible.
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Yeah it is. They have effectively made the unlimited plan useless, which is what I think they set out to do, when I'm being capped its something like 50kb/s, and that is just unusable.
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Yeah it is. They have effectively made the unlimited plan useless, which is what I think they set out to do, when I'm being capped its something like 50kb/s, and that is just unusable.
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I usually end my month right around 5 to 6 gb. But as soon as it happens you recognize it immediately!
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Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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Isn't that the truth
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w4itg said:
Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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The contract terms state quite the opposite, actually:
AT&T may reduce your data throughput speeds at any time or place if your data usage exceeds an applicable, identified usage threshold during any billing cycle. AT&T will provide you with advance notice of the usage threshold applicable to your data plan, or any changes to the applicable usage threshold either by a bill insert, email, text message or other appropriate means
And folks on AT&T aren't "paying" for 4G specifically. For folks where 4G is not even available, they pay the same price for their data plan.
Is this correct ideologically, or even from a logical/common sense standpoint? Its easily arguable that AT&T is in the wrong; and I would agree with you there. AT&T's policy can easily be seen as anti-consumer, and solely in AT&T's own interest.
But are they technically or legally in the right, its pretty debatable either way. AT&T can argue various points, such as the fact that the technology has changed, and the terms can therefore change also. The fact of the matter (in my understanding) is that AT&T, and all the carriers are having trouble keeping up with market demand for bandwidth. Smartphones are getting more and more data hungry, along with the way folks use these devices. The longer terms outlook for the networks to keep up with data demand is not good, to say the least. The carriers are going to be dumping a lot of money to upgrade their networks over the coming years/decades. And that money needs to come form somewhere. Its in the carriers interest to force customers onto tiered plans.
Unfortunately, ;egal action regarding throttling has only met with limited success, from what I can find on Google. One person won a small claims lawsuit and was awarded $850. Probably not an effort that most of us would be interested in pursuing. Class action has only been specific to the iPad 3G (from what I can fine), and won each owner a whopping $40. And class action lawsuit is actually prohibited by the . . . . (wait for it) . . . . present AT&T contract terms (and upheld by the Supreme Court)!

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