So I owned the Epic 4g Touch for about 6 months and then just last week traded down to the 3vo (along with some cash, to save up for the next Evo...gotta start saving now people!). The reason why, mostly, is because the dev section here is better and I miss Sense. AOSP fans, you can stop booing now.
So I've made some comparisons based on my 6 months with the Epic Touch and now my week with the Evo 3D (having it properly rooted, s-off and flashing some fun roms here and there).
Pros for the Epic Touch.
1. Beast chipset. Quadrant scores were amazing, but even for the benchmark haters the phone rarely lagged. Never lagged actually, unless you forced it to or you were using Google Voice (which will lag everything, I don't care what it is). Never a bump in performance in anything from Playstation Emulators to pinch to zoom. Watch review videos. Butter smooth.
2. Epic camera. Most people, like me, depend on their phone camera as their only camera because we can't afford to have a hobby like buying $600 cameras (because we already have an expensive hobby called Android phones) nor do we have a bag or pocket to carry said camera. The Epic Touch camera was awesome. Great pictures in any light, barely any fuzz or loss of focus for zooming into pictures already taken. Great settings, 1080p video shooting (which, when it worked, was phenomenal).
3. The big, gorgeous screen. I don't care for you little finger people complaining about it. I'm a 25 year old man and the guy who drills holes into my bowling ball says I have the fingers of a skinny teenage girl and that giant screen was nowhere near "too much" for me. It was big, beautiful, you could see it in sunlight, took up less battery life (if you set it up properly) and was just all around wonderful. 4.5" should be the industry standard, not 4.3". It really does make a difference.
Cons agains the Epic Touch:
1. Touchwiz is f*cking ugly and useless. No cohesion or synergy in Touchwiz at all. No messaging widget, no Social Hub widget, the calender, mail, weather and clock widgets all look like they came from wildly different themed ROMs. Social Hub didn't work for the first 2 months of the phone's life, the iPhone-style dock and app drawer lent no imagination or originality (no wonder they're getting sued left and right) and it was wildly scaled back from the OG Galaxy S 2. They keyboard was ugly as all hell. Hated the Touchwiz. Even the lockscreen was useless and stupid. The overscroll glow was blue and the battery indicator was green...who designs **** like that? Don't get me started on the 4g "dozing" feature. If you don't use 4g for 10 seconds, it goes to sleep and it is a ***** to wake up. You gotta open up an app like facebook or twitter, then go to your web browser. Absurd.
2. No developer support. The guy who did CM7 over there was a 15 year old who stole phones from people (no, really, he'd borrow a phone or propose a trade and a moron would accept and then wouldn't get their stuff...he also ripped off some people who wanted to donate a t-mo sgs2 to a developer for cm7...asshole). The custom kernels are all the same features with a slightly themed CWM recovery. Nothing original and all the ROMs are more or less the same with maybe one unique feature. Calk's rom had an htc keyboard, unnamed rom had themed icons...nothing really special. Since our AOSP devs are felons and, frankly, code thieves, we're stuck with Touchwiz over there unless you like MIUI...everyone else = boned.
3. The feel of the phone. The battery door was plastic. Not the super thick, awesome plastic like the battery door to the 3vo, but like flimsy child's toy plastic. The kind that shatters when you drop it. In fact, the whole phone minus the screen felt cheap and plasticky. I used to complain about it before I bought a samsung, now I've owned one and I can say from experience. Yeah, they're going for sleek and light, but how sleek can you feel holding a phone that's made with the same quality of plastic as a Barbie doll? When I did buy a case, the damn thing was too weak to keep it's own battery door on when I removed the case. Seriously, don't drop this phone on thick carpet, it might not work again.
Now for the Evo 3D. Pros:
1. HTC Sense is, as usual, beautiful. The applications, like friend stream, work like they should, the widgets are all cohesive and look like they belong together. With HTC Skins you have a plethora of theming options, you can customize the lockscreen to suit your needs (and the lockring idea is freaking awesome, admit it). The keyboard is nice and it works. HTC Sense may be giant and bloated, but all the pieces fit together in a synergistic manner that makes the phone feel more complete and that's not only hard to do, but a huge plus for Sense over Touchwiz.
2. The dev support here is better. The ROMs are actually different from one another and not just the same base with a few unique tweaks. MeanROM looks and feels completely different from Myn Warm (either one of them). There's Sense 3.0, 3.5. There's AOSP builds (3 of them, last I counted. 2 CM7 and a CM9...none work quite right yet but they're getting there). There's Sense 4.0 alphas out. There's kernels with characteristics that are different from one another. It is possible to have a more unique experience with this phone than the Epic Touch because with the Epic Touch, there's simply not as many good developers as there are here.
**note** I know development around here has been slowing down lately. Hopefully that'll turn around once they release kernel source for the latest Sense build. Plus, and this is minor, you can change the splash screen on this phone. You can't on a samsung device.
3. It's very well built. It's got heft, so you can feel it in your pocket. It feels and looks like it could take a drop or two before you start to worry (my cases are in the mail as we speak ), the notification light actually works and blinks often enough that I know I have a text message. There's a dedicated camera button. The hardware, the chipset notwithstanding, could whip the hardware on a galaxy s 2's ass any day of the week.
And the cons:
1. HTC and releasing kernel source. Seriously, I've spent maybe 33% of the time I've been an Evo owner (4g and 3d) waiting for HTC to release kernel source so we could get some custom kernels on newer builds before the devs got bored and jumped to a nexus s or a galaxy nexus. Looks like that's what's happening here too. Hopefully there's some adventurous people when it is released so we have those awesome kernel options like before.
2. The chipset is obviously inferior to the exynos. I love the evo series, i love htc, but you can't deny that. exynos is beast and whatever is in this phone doesn't stack up. While the lag isn't terrible (not enough to affect daily usage), it's still there and noticeable, which is kind of a bummer for a dual core device. Additionally, anyone else notice that data goes to sleep when the phone does? My google music sounds like a bad cd player when it goes to sleep so I have to leave it awake until it buffers the whole song or the song literally skips. That's kinda lame.
3. The camera, while better than the OG Evo, is much weaker than the Epic Touch. A lot of fuzz in low light settings and it just doesn't look like as high quality as the Epic Touch. Don't get me started on the 3D. I have taken one picture and shot one video. It gave me a headache, no more 3D for me. I would've traded in 3D capacity for the Amaze 4g's camera sensors any day of the week.
Overall, I do like the 3vo better. Despite it's shortcomings, it feels like a more complete device than an Epic Touch. The UI matches itself, you can customize without rooting (and even more after rooting), there's a stronger dev section and a more active IRC chat. It feels better in the hand weight wise and is built better materials wise (I still miss my giant screen to play video games with). Dedicated camera button ftw. There's more working features and fewer bugs than Touchwiz (google Epic Touch LOS...and start laughing lol). Both devices will eventually have ICS, so it's not like you can hold that against either one. I just hope our CMs get done eventually (i don't care about the 3D, but the other stuff kinda matters).
Sorry if this has been done already...actually no, no I'm not. It was fun to write.
Nice write up . Each phone has cons and pros. I like the amount of roms and root option on the EVO 3D hate bloatware
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Good job, sir.
It's always refreshing to read reviews this far along into a phone's release, especially with two phones such as these. Reason being, there will always be those who purchased a phone on or around the release date, and may have been swayed by pre-release reviews or initial release reviews. Months (or in some cases, days) later, the inevitable hint of flip-flopdom or regret sinks in, and the decision to buy another phone off-contract sets in. Additionally, there are those who bought a phone off-contract and are currently in their upgrade period; users such as myself who are holding out as long as possible for an LTE release rather than burning the upgrade on an older Wimax phone, for example.
These mid-release reviews help to quench or fuel the desire to ditch the current phone and toy around w/ the competition. Phones that have been out 6+mo typically get left out of the review mix as writers tend to constantly focus on upcoming models...understandably so. But I'm willing to bet there are good number of folks who appreciate reviews such as these when the antsy feeling sets in that a ROM flash just won't cure. Thanks again for the write-up!
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This is why this place is degrading rapidly.
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And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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Lol recognized developer is a application u fill out to get. Seen a few good roms from folks that don't have the thing. Just cause they don't have the label doesn't mean the rom is bad some just don't have time to fill a application out others are just happy pumping roms out..
Some roms are sweet lol. Tho some phones don't have a lot of dev support due to root support and phone popularity ..
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Lol too funny
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fpineda101 said:
And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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While there are far more Rec Devs for the Evo 3D, the point I was going for was that the ROMs here are more unique. MeanROM boats 3000 quadrant scores and high battery life, Myn's Warm boasts a beautiful theme with some improvement tweaks. There's Fresh ROM which (if my memory from the Evo 4g serves me right) is a stock ROM with nothing missing that's been lightly modded for a better experience. Then we have 2 CyanogenMod 7 ROMs (hopefully the bugs get fixed for those some day), a CyanogenMod 9 ROM (alpha), a Sense 4.0 preview, a couple stable Sense 3.5 Roms, MIUI, a couple of Sony Bravia/Xloud ROMs, etc etc.
For the Epic Touch, there's a CM7 I wouldn't trust to test (not even allowed on XDA), let alone use, there's MIUI but it's not complete (yet)...then you have a dozen or so ROMs that have almost exactly the same features but are themed slightly differently. Go look, they all have TSM Parts, Maddoggin's lockscreen Mod and/or an AIO mod done by crawrj. Then it's MAYBE one or two original tweaks or features (like calk's htc_ime keyboard mod). There's basically no difference between the ROMs besides the "light theming" so the experience is almost exactly the same between ROMs. I can't sacrifice battery life for more speed, they all have the same battery and speed tweaks. The last month I had the phone, I was using Team Nocturnal's Sony Bravia Port ROM, because it was the only one that was any different from the others.
/rant lol but yes, it is nice to have more "trustworthy" individuals devving for us here. I hope they stick around and release even more stuff once HTC catches up releasing the source for the kernel.
Sup college guy.
Agree on your rant. But still wanna get an e4gt.
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Haha. Lol.
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So I owned the Epic 4g Touch for about 6 months and then just last week traded down to the 3vo (along with some cash, to save up for the next Evo...gotta start saving now people!). The reason why, mostly, is because the dev section here is better and I miss Sense. AOSP fans, you can stop booing now.
So I've made some comparisons based on my 6 months with the Epic Touch and now my week with the Evo 3D (having it properly rooted, s-off and flashing some fun roms here and there).
Pros for the Epic Touch.
1. Beast chipset. Quadrant scores were amazing, but even for the benchmark haters the phone rarely lagged. Never lagged actually, unless you forced it to or you were using Google Voice (which will lag everything, I don't care what it is). Never a bump in performance in anything from Playstation Emulators to pinch to zoom. Watch review videos. Butter smooth.
2. Epic camera. Most people, like me, depend on their phone camera as their only camera because we can't afford to have a hobby like buying $600 cameras (because we already have an expensive hobby called Android phones) nor do we have a bag or pocket to carry said camera. The Epic Touch camera was awesome. Great pictures in any light, barely any fuzz or loss of focus for zooming into pictures already taken. Great settings, 1080p video shooting (which, when it worked, was phenomenal).
3. The big, gorgeous screen. I don't care for you little finger people complaining about it. I'm a 25 year old man and the guy who drills holes into my bowling ball says I have the fingers of a skinny teenage girl and that giant screen was nowhere near "too much" for me. It was big, beautiful, you could see it in sunlight, took up less battery life (if you set it up properly) and was just all around wonderful. 4.5" should be the industry standard, not 4.3". It really does make a difference.
Cons agains the Epic Touch:
1. Touchwiz is f*cking ugly and useless. No cohesion or synergy in Touchwiz at all. No messaging widget, no Social Hub widget, the calender, mail, weather and clock widgets all look like they came from wildly different themed ROMs. Social Hub didn't work for the first 2 months of the phone's life, the iPhone-style dock and app drawer lent no imagination or originality (no wonder they're getting sued left and right) and it was wildly scaled back from the OG Galaxy S 2. They keyboard was ugly as all hell. Hated the Touchwiz. Even the lockscreen was useless and stupid. The overscroll glow was blue and the battery indicator was green...who designs **** like that? Don't get me started on the 4g "dozing" feature. If you don't use 4g for 10 seconds, it goes to sleep and it is a ***** to wake up. You gotta open up an app like facebook or twitter, then go to your web browser. Absurd.
2. No developer support. The guy who did CM7 over there was a 15 year old who stole phones from people (no, really, he'd borrow a phone or propose a trade and a moron would accept and then wouldn't get their stuff...he also ripped off some people who wanted to donate a t-mo sgs2 to a developer for cm7...asshole). The custom kernels are all the same features with a slightly themed CWM recovery. Nothing original and all the ROMs are more or less the same with maybe one unique feature. Calk's rom had an htc keyboard, unnamed rom had themed icons...nothing really special. Since our AOSP devs are felons and, frankly, code thieves, we're stuck with Touchwiz over there unless you like MIUI...everyone else = boned.
3. The feel of the phone. The battery door was plastic. Not the super thick, awesome plastic like the battery door to the 3vo, but like flimsy child's toy plastic. The kind that shatters when you drop it. In fact, the whole phone minus the screen felt cheap and plasticky. I used to complain about it before I bought a samsung, now I've owned one and I can say from experience. Yeah, they're going for sleek and light, but how sleek can you feel holding a phone that's made with the same quality of plastic as a Barbie doll? When I did buy a case, the damn thing was too weak to keep it's own battery door on when I removed the case. Seriously, don't drop this phone on thick carpet, it might not work again.
Now for the Evo 3D. Pros:
1. HTC Sense is, as usual, beautiful. The applications, like friend stream, work like they should, the widgets are all cohesive and look like they belong together. With HTC Skins you have a plethora of theming options, you can customize the lockscreen to suit your needs (and the lockring idea is freaking awesome, admit it). The keyboard is nice and it works. HTC Sense may be giant and bloated, but all the pieces fit together in a synergistic manner that makes the phone feel more complete and that's not only hard to do, but a huge plus for Sense over Touchwiz.
2. The dev support here is better. The ROMs are actually different from one another and not just the same base with a few unique tweaks. MeanROM looks and feels completely different from Myn Warm (either one of them). There's Sense 3.0, 3.5. There's AOSP builds (3 of them, last I counted. 2 CM7 and a CM9...none work quite right yet but they're getting there). There's Sense 4.0 alphas out. There's kernels with characteristics that are different from one another. It is possible to have a more unique experience with this phone than the Epic Touch because with the Epic Touch, there's simply not as many good developers as there are here.
**note** I know development around here has been slowing down lately. Hopefully that'll turn around once they release kernel source for the latest Sense build. Plus, and this is minor, you can change the splash screen on this phone. You can't on a samsung device.
3. It's very well built. It's got heft, so you can feel it in your pocket. It feels and looks like it could take a drop or two before you start to worry (my cases are in the mail as we speak ), the notification light actually works and blinks often enough that I know I have a text message. There's a dedicated camera button. The hardware, the chipset notwithstanding, could whip the hardware on a galaxy s 2's ass any day of the week.
And the cons:
1. HTC and releasing kernel source. Seriously, I've spent maybe 33% of the time I've been an Evo owner (4g and 3d) waiting for HTC to release kernel source so we could get some custom kernels on newer builds before the devs got bored and jumped to a nexus s or a galaxy nexus. Looks like that's what's happening here too. Hopefully there's some adventurous people when it is released so we have those awesome kernel options like before.
2. The chipset is obviously inferior to the exynos. I love the evo series, i love htc, but you can't deny that. exynos is beast and whatever is in this phone doesn't stack up. While the lag isn't terrible (not enough to affect daily usage), it's still there and noticeable, which is kind of a bummer for a dual core device. Additionally, anyone else notice that data goes to sleep when the phone does? My google music sounds like a bad cd player when it goes to sleep so I have to leave it awake until it buffers the whole song or the song literally skips. That's kinda lame.
3. The camera, while better than the OG Evo, is much weaker than the Epic Touch. A lot of fuzz in low light settings and it just doesn't look like as high quality as the Epic Touch. Don't get me started on the 3D. I have taken one picture and shot one video. It gave me a headache, no more 3D for me. I would've traded in 3D capacity for the Amaze 4g's camera sensors any day of the week.
Overall, I do like the 3vo better. Despite it's shortcomings, it feels like a more complete device than an Epic Touch. The UI matches itself, you can customize without rooting (and even more after rooting), there's a stronger dev section and a more active IRC chat. It feels better in the hand weight wise and is built better materials wise (I still miss my giant screen to play video games with). Dedicated camera button ftw. There's more working features and fewer bugs than Touchwiz (google Epic Touch LOS...and start laughing lol). Both devices will eventually have ICS, so it's not like you can hold that against either one. I just hope our CMs get done eventually (i don't care about the 3D, but the other stuff kinda matters).
Sorry if this has been done already...actually no, no I'm not. It was fun to write.
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Cool story, bro
Nice article. I would however mention that the E4GT does get a decent amount of development, while not as much as the EVO 3D, it's still getting it. And even if Bubby made CM7, why's it hindering the E4GT development scores?
Thanks for sharing your experience. I always wonder what's it like on the SG2 camp.
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Sup college guy.
Agree on your rant. But still wanna get an e4gt.
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Hey dude! the guy I sold my e4gt to actually hates it. if you go to the documentation thread and find him, you might be able to get it back off of him (he's looking to sell it). Couldn't get used to it.
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Cool story, bro
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Winners post the pic IN the post, not as an attachment
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To fix your data turning off when you turn your screen off is to select 'Enable always-on mobile data' in Settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile Networks.
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Sweet thanks dude! That worked
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Nice article. I would however mention that the E4GT does get a decent amount of development, while not as much as the EVO 3D, it's still getting it. And even if Bubby made CM7, why's it hindering the E4GT development scores?
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Becuase Bubby didn't make CM7, about half a dozen people made CM7 and Bubby simply swiped their Git, made his own, compiled it and released it. Remember, it's not allowed on XDA for a reason Keep in mind I'm also an XDA Writer, and as such base my development scores on what's actually on XDA. Plus, I am not a fan of Rootzwiki. All the trolls go there and pretend like they weren't a part of the "XDA problem" they spend all day complaining about over there.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I always wonder what's it like on the SG2 camp.
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Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone...it's just a very... homogeneous atmosphere. A lot of the "same stuff" being re-released under a different name and theme. The phone is still very nice.
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Nice post , having both I would clearly say the epic is ahead of the 3d . Your right about the epic dev support not being as much as the 3d. IMO touchwiz isnt as bad as some people make it out to be . Its fast , clean , and I would prefer it right now over sense . Now that might change when sense 4.0 comes out ,but sense is just too slow . Build quality is superb on the epic, the 3d has a nice build also but IMO the epic wins that catigorty. Light isn't always cheap, Both are good phones!!!
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Nice write up
What about the screen on the E3D? You haven't commented either way, but couldn't praise the Samsung's screen enough.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
i have not played with the Sensation but I was surprised at how the phone feels in my hand, which is very nice. It has good weight but doesn't feel bulky. I came from the HeroC and was a little worried going from one that was small to one that was so big. But I have barely even noticed. As for day to day usage, I think it works great. I haven't had battery problems unless i sit and play some big game for a couple of hours.
It's great, size wise: the EVO 3D is chunkier (The version Europe will get could be thinner, our CDMA powered phones tend to be thinker, also battery life on your EVO will be better than ours & your Sensation, as it packs a bigger battery. The Sensation feels better in the hand but the EVO 3D isn't uncomfortable at all, its better in the hand than the EVO 4G was.
We have fewer hardware issues & our software issues were addressed fast, it could be HTC or Sprint, I'm not sure but updates have been pretty swift.
Again this could vary with the EUR EVO 3D.
The Developer scene is good, some minor things may be interchangeable now but once the bootloaders come loose, ROMs won't be interchangable with this section.
Thats not to say you won't get great development when it lands. Its a waiting game as it stands.
You'll like the dedicated camera button, bigger battery, the 3D, the Extra ram & the slightly better processor.
Vondafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
I so far love it. Feels good in my hand very solid feel. the haptic touch is very tight and screen is responsive to everything.
What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
I currently own the evo 3d, it is a great phone. Feels great, runs FAST, and the battery life is great for myself. You can't go wrong with it. The extra ram compared to the sensation is nice as well.
Thanks for all your responses so far, I really appreciate the feedback! I am strongly considering waiting for the Evo 3D, I think I may be able to bear the Nexus One for a few more weeks - it seems so tiny now
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What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
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I think the Samsung Galaxy S2 has quite a few very significant downfalls/design problems. While in theory a great phone (fast, very thin design) these did push my decision to buying a Sensation:
low display resolution: 800x480 is no longer enough for me - fonts get much crisper and more readable with qHD, websites display a much larger area, list views are better. The Sensations/Evo 3Ds higher resolution makes all the difference, improves the quality by a lot.
extreme colour banding: The S2s display shows an extreme amount of colour banding, apparent in almost all applications. Better black levels aren't worth such atrocious colour reproduction.
uncomfortable ergonomics: Yes, the design is very slim, but that comes at a price: The thin edges make the phone pretty uncomfortable to hold, long calls are awkward due to the sharp upper edge, very close to the speaker. The hand-feeling is very off, compared to the cushy Sensation.
TouchWiz is absolutely terrible: What Samsung did to Android is extremely sad - their launcher apes the iPhones launcher, including all of its faults (no sorting of apps by alphabet, unelegant). The TouchWiz stock-android-replacements (calendar, email, music) are all of atrocious quality, including glaring bugs or featuring terrible usability.
I cannot speak to the GS2, but coming from the Epic to the EVO 3D, I have a thought.
It seems that samsung makes some really great hardware, but their software/support is minimal at best.
HTC in comparison seems to have much stronger support in terms of apps, widgets, and just overall Android enhancement. Not only was touch wiz anemic as far as features go, but it seemed to lock out any other customization.
For example, i couldn't find any sort of lock screen app/widget/customization that would replace the stock locker. instead, it sorta came either before or after the samsung lock. The Epic just seemed hard to tweak/customize, and they offered no worthwhile widgets or apps of their own. Stock Clock? Weather Clock? The froyo update finally allowed some sort of location-aware weather, but that was barely functional at best.
It also appeared that, while samsung, on the surface, had the better hardware, the OS and apps did not seem to take proper advantage of the better CPU/GPU setup. Now, I did try the leaked gingerbread, and it was a significant improvement. However, there were stability issues that kept me away. Plus, i had no faith that the Epic would continue to get support and upgrades. I think that Samsung/Sprint would rather push the new hardware rather than risk cannibalizing new sales by upgrading previous products.
So, overall, samsung/sprint have left me very skeptical of any future purchases, not because of quality or hardware, but because of the policies and behavior of the manufacturer.
By the way, while this appears to be off topic, I should mention that I currently have an EVO 3D, which makes the epic look like an unpolished toy at best. And I think the Epic is great, but totally mismanaged/underutilized.
Well I think the gs2 is a nice phone.
However I both chose and love my EVO3d because...
I started android day 1 with g1. It was a work horse. Everything worked.
Eventually I went to the Samsung Vibrant. The damn phone had a great screen. But never worked right.
It never got updates. Took forever.
Moved on to the g2x. It had potential. But my phone would heat up to the point I had to take it out of my pocket. Once in a meeting and luckily my boss was willing to hear me out and felt it. She just said damn. You need to get exchanged.
My wife could not get hers to switch from data to WiFi . No matter the amount of resets. Ever.
Tmobile sent refurbished phones. The phones were 18 days owned. they tried to replace brand new 18 days owned purchased full out phones with refurbs.
We left to Sprint and got the EVO3d.
Mine is all love and good. Hers has a signal issue. Hers has to be returned.
We have issues. We went through wirefly. They need 250 to return a phone. Then they refund. We can't afford that. 4 kids.
So I'm worried wirefly just sold me a defective phone and I won't be able to get a working EVO
Sprint says hers has never connected right to the network. It doesn't stay connected.
It's a defective unit.
If it wasn't for that we would be as satisfied as we were with our g1's.
The phone is great.
I've played a plenty with the sensation. Pretty much the same. But when you power up the sensation its smooth for a little. The you open the internet. Or xda. It keeps that running in the background cache.
Then you see that jittery effect.
The EVO3d does not suffer the jitter type problem. Ever. It is just smooth.
Honest.
3d movies. Wow.
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Another Galaxy negative: As someone who always carries a spare battery and therefore exchanges it regularly (when needed), the flimsy SGS2 back cover was pretty unnerving to me - especially combined with the much worse battery life I experienced with that phone, compared to the Sensations pretty excellent runtime.
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Vodafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
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I am not all that exalted about HTCs decision to have a one-month Vodafone/A1/Swisscom exclusivity period before the unlocked release. But I will probably wait the wait for the SIM-free option.
Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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I have play with both phones, and owned a iPhone 4 for a good time, yet the LG phones has higher benckmarks but in reaility doesn't mean much , just to let you know gingerbread update wich is what is the EVO running is no taking advantage on the duel cores yet, been said that i think the EVO 3d is for you, HTC sense does take ablot space but is make for the new user in mind you won't have trouble at all coming from the iPhone , battery life in Android is no as good as the iPhone but the EVO 3D doesn't have a bad battery life tho, keyboard the comes with the 3d is really good multitouch but iphones still better by hair lol, and the browser is really good and matches to the iPhone as well, camera you will miss it, no for nothing.but the sensor on the iPhone 4 is the best one in the states, the screen being bigger you will ask yourself how come apple haven't done this yet, so much better to read and watch videos , and if you like browse the web in your phone you will love it, I think the 3D is a better customer experience and you will have a blast from it, I have some friends the I convince to get some great Android phones and they love it so far, apps are getting much better now that what it was a year ago and they take less space then ios apps do so don't freak out with 1gb of memory you still have a SD card to tansfer your apps too and can upgrade to 32 gb SD card , I hope this helps on your decision
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Ruki_Uki said:
The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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hmm can you take some photo's and see how many pixels they are so we know the resolution?
if you turn the 3ds all the way up, and look at a 3d game on your evo3d? wich has more depth? ofcource the 3ds got crap resolution, i already know that
Guess it depends on just what it is your looking for in a phone. Being as your coming frome a iPhone 4 I guess it comes down to Android/HTC Sense vs iOS. Because hardware wise you won't see any improvement. Actually it's really a downgrade from the iPhone 4 which has a better screen, better camera, and battery life. Also way more apps and a better gaming experience. Only thing the 3D has over it would be the larger screen and the 3D feature which is gimmicky IMO. The dual core doesn't come into play because Gingerbread nor any Android apps utilize it. Now OS wise I would have to give the edge to Android with it being more open and easier to customize than iOS which is why I love it. Now in the case of the 3D that openness won't be on display until it gets full root/S-Off/unlocked bootloader/custom kernels but that is coming eventually. So I guess you have to decide whether you want to stick with iOS or Android. The 3D while a great phone right now isn't the phone that really shows off what Android can do when compared to iOS. Now when they finally break the shackles that HTC/Sprint put on it and hang around here a little longer, than you will see what Android/3D really has to offer. Then again it looks like Apple stole a bunch of things from Android and put it into the new iOS 5 and from the rumors the iPhone 5 looks to be a beast spec-wise so maybe you should wait around for that to drop.
I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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*rolls eyes*
Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
klbjr said:
What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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i do like my iphone 4's screen ALOT. before the iphone 4 i had the 3gs wich was huge screen upgrade. but will since apple broke their routine of a new iphone each year at desame time, im looking at android. i didnt purchase to many apps so switching is not hard. but im wondering if the downgrade of the screen is going to be big? i mean i ofcource like my iphone 4's screen vs the 3gs. but the screen of the optimus and evo3d are also still alot better then the 3gs. i also like my ipad2's screen(dpi). if the evo3d and the optimus3d got a fair amount of more dpi i probaly dont really mind the downgrade.
Next the iphone4's camera. yes, i love the quality of colors ect this thing makes. but im a sucker for functionality. 3d photo's man...thats super cool. but i do like quality. if the photo's are somewhere near the iphone 4thats okay already. i just dont want pixelated photo's like the 3ds makes haha.
the thing i really am afraid of is the evo3d getting ****. ive heard alot bad stuff about it even on this forum...returned because of dead pixels, bugs, flaws...i also heard the optimus3d is faster because it has the cortex9 instead of the older cortex8.
Things i like alot about the evo3d is its sense menu...i loved that way back on my touch diamond(although the touch diamond is garbage), its design, its led for notification about email and texts, and ofcource its 3d.
but well everyone says i need to choose the optimus over the evo3d for its 3d screen. i dont really care about the 3d games and menu's right now because maybe the menu of the optimus3d can be ripped out in the future...but else i also believe the markerplace will be slowly filled up with 3d goodies. i want to know the sweet spot of the 3d games...can i use it with accelerometer driving, wont the effect be ****ty when i have 2 thumbs on the screen when playing NOVA...and it seems everyone thinks and says the optimus3d got more depth then the evo3d.
about the optimus3d i like that it seems to be alot faster because its a cortex9...it has 8gb memory build in wich is a nice extra, and well again...the 3d is better. and ofcource the menu...but i hope its going to be ripped sometime so the htc evo3d users can have it as well...
It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
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It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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Fair enough..everyone has a right to their opinion..but i do believe if u put sense 3.0 on the iphone 4 it would struggle and lag just like a lot of phones do..ios is streamlined and simple..if you enjoy that that's great..and if it doesn't change much the new iPhone won't really need extra power..
What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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If a developer ports a sense like ROM to the phone yes...
3D > iClone
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
3D > iClone
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
3D > iClone
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That's actually to male apps and it doesn't give you the base, is an sdk to make apps just like the one for ios the apple provides , cyanogen tweet it about that too
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Has sense been port/ripped to another non-htc android device before?
Maybe there are alternatives with desame look?
carrier unlocking
hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
HTC3400i_np said:
hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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Sorry but that would be a no. From my understanding Sprint uses CDMA & no SIM card so you just can't unlock & swap SIMs like you can with GSM phones. I heard they may be releasing a 3D or something similar, to European carriers, as seeing the 3D is supposedly a Sprint exclusive. You could try the Sensation, it is pretty much the same phone just minus the 3D capabilities & 768MB of RAM as opposed to 1GB in the 3D. The only carriers I've ever heard of people being able to port over to Sprint phones were Cricket Wireless & Metro PCS, but they are also US carriers.
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Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
Please, be positive, no flaming, no telling me I should spend hours/days using search to find outdated answers to my questions- this has the potential to help other people considering the device!
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Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
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See my signature. This phone suits my needs. The others have been good for what I needed them for (Sensation: similar but the Amaze has better everything; more RAM, better backlit illuminated camera, 2mp front camera, NFC, dedicated video/camera button), (Galaxy Note: has everything I needed, but camera was slightly slower and I have Tmobile and I couldn't handle the EDGE data only) I don't regret getting the Amaze. It is slightly heavier and thicker than the Sensation, but its solid.
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Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
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Battery life is not that great if you are a power user. I have 3 batteries and it gets me through the day. I usually do not need to use the 3rd battery. I use the phone for practically everything. Gaming: Shadowgun 30mins-45mins, texting: 30-50 msg, Netflix streaming: Yo Gabba Gabba 30mins, Music playing via bluetooth headphone 1hr at the gym, phone calls via car bluetooth for 30mins, regular phone calls 30mins-1hr, surfing the web 20-40mins, xda forum for 30-40mins. With all those things, I use 2 batteries. If I cut the activities in half, I can use 1battery and it will last me around 12-14hrs. (My rooted sensation did better at 16hrs, but I don't mind the 2hrs sacrifice)
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The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
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use the search button: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324177
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Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
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This phone is roughly a little over a month old. Don't expect the community to be brimming with new things, especially with the announcement of ICS. Most developers do not want to dev something that will last only 2 months and then have replaced by a totally new firmware (ICS). So there will be a slight lull during this couple of months. But there are some great developers like Xboarder56, NRGZ28, mike1986 and Revolution that is keep this phone relevant. I really appreciate these guys.
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Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
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The build quality is top notch (at least initially) for HTC phones. IMO it is definitely better than the current Samsung phones out now. The Galaxy Note was a nice phone but you can totally tell that it did not use premium material for the overall phone. The glass looked nice, but it did not have Gorilla glass.
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The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
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This phone DOES HAVE NFC. Check the specs. (Near Field Communications)
http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone#/Specs
Having come from the Vibrant:
Great battery life-QS1.5.1
Great build quality
Great camera
Easy to root
Easy to backup
Easy to flash
[CWMR]
you can't really brick this phone because we're stuck with s-on. Usually bricking occurs when you mess with bootloader and radio. However, with s-on we can't change that unless its through an OTA update.
Rooting takes a minute, recovery is done with CWM recovery, so it should be familiar.
btw the vibrant sucks balls.
however the gs2 is supposedly a huge upgrade to all their crappy predecessor so you can check that out too if you're afraid of the change from samsung to htc.
You can always invest in a mytouch 4g or sensation to see how it's like. They're both AMAZING phones har har but of course they lack in hardware specs, but they're both better than any other samsung phones out there except the latest ones.
Best T-Mobile phone going right now!
Let me start by saying I have been with Android since day 1. Started with the G1, then Mytouch 3g, the Nexus One, the Vibrant, the Mytouch 4g, and now the Amaze. I have not had a problem with any HTC phones and they are all still running today. The only phone I had any issue with was the one Samsung (also still running). I am not an HTC "fanboy" if something better came along I would certainly buy that.
The Amaze is the best phone T-Mobile offers right now. Compared to your Vibrant you'll be blown away with the quality of the phone the fact that everything works as it should.
HTC has a good track record of updating their devices OS's (Even the Mytouch 3g got Froyo before the Vibrant) and they do it OTA, no Kies. HTC's have always been quickly adopted by the development community for their relative ease of rooting and overall usage of "common" hardware that allows you to make ROM's for several different devices with very little modification.
Gingerbread is not a huge leap from Froyo. Most everyday users would be hard pressed to find a real difference. What will be different is going to HTC Sense from Samsung's TouchWiz interface. This will be a case of "It's up to you" totally depends on your own personal taste. I personally couldn't stand Touchwiz.
Battery life has been a little better than my MT4g was and seems to be about on par with or maybe a little better than my Vibrant. I have not owned a phone since my Palm Treo 650 that I didn't have to charge at least daily so I don't think there will be any surprise for you here.
Lastly, the screen. It is very nice and smooth. The resolution is higher than SGS2 therefore making it very crisp. It is not AMOLED, however, so you will not have the vibrance and deep contrast of the AMO screens. Your blacks won't seem as black and your bright colors will not jump out of the screen at you like the AMO screen does. Once again this is somewhat of a personal preference but compared to the Samsung devices this may be the only slight disadvantage.
This phone has the best camera ever offered in a smart phone. It has as much or more computing power of any phone on the market. The device is very solid, it just feels high quality and it has all of the bells and whistles that any smart phone out now has including NFC. I can't imagine this phone not exceeding any expectation you would have for a smart phone, unless you need a phone with a battery that lasts several days between charges, then you my friend have un-realistic expectations. Ha!
In a nutshell..
Good -
Sharp and Bright screen. Blacks levels are ok light bleed makes it worse. Still better than GS2 screen because of sharpness and IMO color accuracy.
Very fast camera. Dedicated buttons for camera and camcorder. They also wake the phone which is a huge plus IMO.
Eye pleasing . White model looks great IMO. If this were a super light/thin phone itd be a no brainer.
Bad-
Just big , heavy, and Fn bulky. Simply doesnt feel as good as other phones in the hand.
Lack of support. I give nothing but credit for wonderful work by Xboarder and others but take a gander at GS2 forums , or when Galaxy Nexus drops there forum. I just dont expect this place to ever be buzzing with the number of great tweaks , enhancements , and features other phones may get. ICS ROMS will likely be on other phones much sooner than Amaze.
Galaxy Nexus and its HD screen are going to be available soon. Just something to consider. HD screens will be more prevalent and the Amaze fast camera and gorgeous screen wont be as impressive by weeks end.
Love my Amaze
I've had a Nexus One for over a year (prior to that it was a Droid). I've also used the original Galaxy phone as well as the Evo.
I've been waiting patiently for a Galaxy Nexus for months as a replacement for my Nexus One. After seeing the camera shots - which are identical in shot quality to the (poor) camera on my Nexus One, I knew I could not possibly get a Galaxy Nexus. For me, camera quality is very important, since my phone *IS* my point-and-shoot, and the Galaxy Nexus camera simply blows. So I gave up waiting to get a GN.
I went into the T-Mobile store to play with the GSII side by side with the Amaze. Both are very good. For me, I went with the Amaze.
1. Build quality, IMO, is top notch. Yes the phone is heavy. To me it has a really solid feel. It's like comparing a S300 Mercedes to a Fiat - both may actually provide similar reliability, but the Mercedes feels far better built.
2. The screen is excellent. I suspect the GN will be better, but side-by-side with the GSII the Amaze had the better screen IMO. The GSII's AMOLED "pops" more but the improved resolution on the Amaze made the real difference.
3. The camera on the Amaze took better photos, and I liked the software better. The flash is amazing for a camera phone.
4. Battery life has been a huge improvement over my N1/Cyanogenmod phone. In normal use I go all day easily without charging. If you aren't playing games or heavily using Maps, I suspect you'll never need to "top up."
5. Great network performance. I haven't benched the speed, but the network feels 3X faster than my N1.
6. The new Sense is much better than TouchWiz IMO.
I want to say this is some great quality feedback, definitely hit everything I asked then some. I have a multitude of reasons for wanting to upgrade from my vibrant besides the "oh, shiney!" factor. Not a huge fan of touchwhiz, poor gps performance, lack of updates, no camera button, etc.. The biggest issue I have right now is price, I'm not willing to go contract with tmobile, and I don't want to pay the current full price like I did with my vibrant-- so if anyone decides they want to get a different phone and knock a fair chunk off of their amaze to get rid of it, bookmark me(I'm looking at you deleriousbb!)
The best points for me I've read about so far:
picture quality, I do want a good camera in my phone since it is the device I have with me always, who knows how many pictures I've lost by not having a dedicated button too..
I forgot it DID have a NFC- that was the original thing I was looking for when looking for a phone, trying to find one that is a little more future proof, this phone being the only one that I could find with hardware specs that sounded good.
Hell, it even has FM radio, something I wish I had a few times now..
Heavy- I actually LIKE this, my vibrant felt far too light, I want to have a solid feeling phone, and if it can double as a brick to be used for self-defense-- so be it.
Overall this sounds like a phone worthy of upgrading to(I really want to make sure I am upgrading) from my vibrant, more or less future proof.. the only thing it doesn't have that I see in the near future is a quad core processor, and those only interest me because of the battery savings they are supposed to offer.
I don't know about the s-on thing someone mentioned, that locks the radio too? That would be the only downside I've seen so far, changing radios has been the way I get the best battery out of my phone thus far, but I suppose I can deal(and have something to research). I also don't know much about how the qHD led screen compares to the vibrant, I was looking forward to better battery life because I know amoled screens use more power than most and using black reduced that..
I guess the only question that didn't get answered is if there is a phone out or coming out that people wish they had held out for? I am not impressed by the galaxy nexus- no external sd, no camera button, lower mp camera(yes I understand better quality sensor), and a few other things.. but I am a hardware guy, and this phone is superior in specs, and the feedback makes me feel good about that.
Also, is there anyone who thinks they may be trying to sell their phone anytime soon? I see myself buying this used rather than going contract(I hate contracts), so I am going to have to wait till there is a price I like more..
Thanks again everyone for the great info, besides everything about the phone that sounded so great, it sounds like you guys are pretty friendly, supportive, and overall helpful!
Check out XDA's market there are some pretty cheap phones there. usually range about $400 for amaze. So you can sell your vibrant for iono $150? on CL and pay $250 more for an amaze.. on contract you already pay $200?
So anyways I actually have a gs2 in hand right now so i'll add some things, although it is similar to what manmythlegend said.
the gs2's connectivity is actually on par with the amaze. I would say amaze's gps is slightly faster but gs2's wifi connectivity is a bit stronger and has quicker connection time.
amaze's camera is better, GS2 appears to have more options on the camera and has their own scenes to choose from, BUT it does not compare to the amaze's scenes at all. BTW I love how the amaze's dedicated button works even when phone is locked.
Screen. the super amoled compared to the amaze's screen reminds me of mt4g good and bad displays. gs2 looks awesome when you view it from every angle. Amaze reminds me of an old LCD when you view from different angles the blacks become like gray. However, I hate how gs2 looks all stretched out and it's not as sharp. think iphone 2-3 vs iphone 4. Amaze is defintely more uhh pretty, its like the UI and icons actually pop out at you compared to gs2' where everything looks blended in a bit.
Another factor, I do not like gs2's blue tint when viewing websites or anything with a white background, it actually feels bad for my eyes. oh and amaze's color seems to be more true.
But remember this, Amaze's battery right now is SO SO, so if you're a heavy user make sure to carry a spare or your charger around.
This may seem like a bias review, but I'm actually pointing out what I normally use on a daily basis that the gs2 would not do for me as the amaze would.
keypoints
1. CAMERA (love amaze's camera and its scenes)
2. Web browsing or anything that has to do with a white background (XDA APP ahem), blue tint is no go for me..
3. base on user preference. I like the weight of the amaze. It tells me that my phone is in my pocket and that it's sturdy to carry around. The amaze's curve body makes it feels better in my hand.
There's something about the gs2 that just doesn't feel right. probably the width or depth of the phone, not exactly sure. I have about an average adult male size hands and the width of the phone might be the thing that is bothering me or that it's actually too thin that makes it feel weird, idk grip both phones, you'll see what i mean.
things that will bother you on the amaze:
the light bleed from the bottom (fixed with screen filter or other ways) and possibly the mediocre battery life.
GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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the SGS2 uses CWM recovery to flash too, you only need odin to install the recovery, after that you're golden.
I'm testing out the sgs2 for the day, and i'll update my opinion on it by the end of the day... so far battery life is good, camera is definitely no comparison to amaze, camcorder seems better though. wifi and bt connectivity is definitely stronger and connection time is quicker on the sgs2. HD games, amaze is better (more details). anything with fonts/texts goes to amaze.
It does support NFC btw, and also AT&T 4G bands.
Screen resolution is great, and its better than the S-AMOLED of the SGSII (which has some discoloration issues it seems).
The SGSII S-AMOLED has a very bright and saturated screen so the colors are shot at you, but if you are a pro as I think you are, and not a "oh, shiny!" fella... You know that definition is better and more important than brightness.
Unless you don't care, then that's different.
4G on the phone is pretty fast, and so its installing apps.
The 1.5 dual-core does not score that high on quadrant as the SGSII (especially the Exynos) does, but you know that they are to be taken with grano salis, and in everyday usage its pretty fast.
Camera is amazing, period.
Video quality is great, but sound recording should be much better on a device like this.
The HTC phone itself however, does have downsides:
Reception (its fair, but not amazing).
Battery, with heavy usage on 4G, will last you few hours. On 2G, a bit more. Phone does get warm by the way. Its not something that should worry you, but it is bothersome when you are on the phone playing a video or what have ya, you get a phone call and have to talk to a distance of the device.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
The touchscreen is tricky. It seems pretty responsive overall, but I did have doubts sometimes. But overall no big issues for me so far.
The phone also does have an heft. It doesn't seem that big a deal, until you place this 4.3" monster phone in your pocket. Its bothersome, at least to me.
Final words: I am trying to sell the HTC Amaze 4G. It is a great media device, but an horrible communication device. This solely depends on you. I have been using a BB 9700 for the past two years and I went back to it after 8 days of impossible phone calls with the Amaze, battery that lasts nothing (on the Amaze of course), and I personally suck and can't stand typing on screens. Sure, the Amaze thrashes my 9700 on so many levels, but for what I need, the 9700 does a far superior job than the Amaze.
Hope this helped.
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The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
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Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
The reception on my amaze is light years ahead of my old samsung galaxy s 4g. I would have one bar on the highway to town and the amaze has a full signal. (2g) just amazing.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
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Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
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The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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You should have a minimum of 14 days to exchange it from where you purchased it. After that you might have to send it in to HTC for repair/replacement.
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GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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You have obviously owned a Nexus S. We don't use Odin. Anyone who uses Odin on any Nexus (from Samsung) is a moron. Rooting and flashing recovery is all performed via fastboot and then make a clockwork backup like normal. The Galaxy Nexus will be the same way. All you need is fastboot.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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Yep if you can't exchange at store anymore then call Tmobile to do an exchange.
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14 days are now gone guys...
And when I went back and told them, they said that I had to pay $50 dollars... which I found ridiculous... So I didn't do anything apart from trying to sell the phone.
There is a lot of 'My new phone has bugs' threads, and maybe rightly so, as with any new device... But I would like to make a positive thread about how we are loving our EVOs!
Love my screen size
The functionality that Sense gives me
My 64gb SD card
People ask what phone I have once they see the back design
Google wallet usage
I've had more comments on it's kickstand that I had with the EVO 4G's kickstand for some reason.
I love how thin it is (coming from an EVO 4G)
The awesome battery life (I'm seeing about 16 hours yeilds around 20% battery left the last few days
Happy to stay with Sprint and tether unlimitedly (within reason) hehe
I love having root and having the same features that my EVO 4G had when I left it
The MODs already available that I've applied
Looking forward to the ROMs that really turn me on. I haven't flashed any just yet. Waiting to see what gets cooked up.
I'm very happy with my phone.
Any noteworthy experiences you've had with it being out and about?
I'm pretty impressed so far.
+Battery Life
+Screen (way better than my Epic 4G and I compared it to a co-worker's ATT Galaxy II and there's no comparison).
+Fast, loading some apps tooks forever on my Epic 4G. Really see the shining power of an additional core and +500 mhz
+Faster 3G speeds, not by much but hey I'll take what I can get
+I much prefer Sense over TouchWhiz
+Kickstand, I place it right infront of my laptop at work and it doesn't budge
+Unlimited data, even if it's slow I don't see justifying an additional $20-50 for other data plans on Big Red or ATT (I use over 5GB a month normally).
-Google Wallet: not sure what Google's deal is here, maybe they're withholding due to Sprint's plans but I managed to fix it with the build.prop/SU workaround but for those who don't want to risk root/messing with files I can see how this is frustrating, especially if they have $10 burning a hole in their phone (not wallet, cwutIdidther?)
Neutral: Multi-tasking. I can see where people get frustrated at this but I don't have 4-5 apps I need open and re-opening them isn't a big deal to me. Sometimes I use Pandora and I like a song, pause it, do something else, then return to it and it re-loads and loads a new song. Kind of annoying but whatever.
I love the phone to. This is my first HTC. My last was a nexus s 4g. (great phone btw). I like the build quality and sence. The speed and battery are amazing.
I love when someone whips out their iPhone and my screen is as big as their entire phone.
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Loving NFC right now, holy crap where was this 2009 ago?
Digging the Camera that has put to death HTCs long history of $#itty white balancing. The instant shutter brings tears of joy to my eyes.
Finally nice to have some decent internal memory for once.
And the screen, the money maker, superb.
This will be the 1st phone I'll be holding onto for 2 years (or plan to anyway) since the.... well ever.
I'm enjoying it thus far. I had an HTC TouchPro, a TP2, the OG Evo, the Evo 3D, and now the Evo LTE. Not really an HTC fanboy, but the phones they've put out on Sprint have always met my needs, and there's always been an upgraded one available when I got the upgrade itch.
I love the battery life, the screen is awesome, and the camera is phenomenal, especially for a phone camera. On the whole I like Sense, and it's one of the better interfaces for Android I've played with in terms of integration and functionality that it adds. I don't like how buggy and laggy it can get, how it can slow down the phone, and how it has a few settings/features I wish were easier to turn off, but the positives definitely outweigh the negatives.
I can't wait until the dev community matures some more and we see some different variations/tweaks, a fully functional CM9, a wider variety of ROMs, and some themes to throw around.
Oh, and after flashing Freiza's kernel, a lot of my slow down/lag has dropped out. Add in the PKMN ROM with both cores, and it's a much improved experience with negligible impact on battery life. WIN!
Fantastic camera (for a phone).
Amazing screen quality.
Phone is solid, does not feel cheap.
Sense 4.0 is great compared to other Sense versions. It is nice to see a more "less is more" approach from HTC on this one. Of course it is still heavy compared to AOSP, but it is very light compared to older Sense versions.
Went from launch day EVO, to launch day EVO 3D, then to this. This phone feels very light (my 3D had a Seidio Surface case on it, so it weighed a bit more than normal). I love the camera features that come stock on this compared to the last two EVO phones.
(Everyone who posted so far got a thanks from me for the positive comments. It is nice to see a positive thread for once. Seems all people want to do is complain these days, not here specifically... I mean in general.)
The other day someone asked me if it was an iPhone, that says enough for me. Seriously though I am very happy with this device and sorry to see so many issues being reported. I don't have a single one.
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I love it almost as much as my wife. (but not quite)
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The other day someone asked me if it was an iPhone, that says enough for me. Seriously though I am very happy with this device and sorry to see so many issues being reported. I don't have a single one.
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No issues here either!
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- I love the screen, it's gorgeous. I thought the screen on my Epic 4G was amazing and this blows it away (and the screen on my Transformer). It's really fast, has a great camera and amazing battery life. My friend has the GS2 and I was wowed by that when he got it, I thought it was super thin and fast and the Evo makes that look like a dinosaur.
Oh yes I'm lovin it, can't wait until all the awesome new development starts to flow (MIUI) and any and all tricks and hacks.
this phone is already very nice and it will only get better, I love my new toy.
SD Card Size?
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There is a lot of 'My new phone has bugs' threads, and maybe rightly so, as with any new device... But I would like to make a positive thread about how we are loving our EVOs!
Love my screen size
The functionality that Sense gives me
My 64gb SD card
People ask what phone I have once they see the back design
Google wallet usage...
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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If you format the 64 GB card using the phone, it works. I have a 64 GB card in my Evo LTE right now.
Well I said it with the og EVO. And now ill have to re state that this is the best phone I've ever had. Solid. Smooth. And just works. I absolutely have no issues with it that occur any more than a 1 time thing. Don't and probably never will understand the issues others experience besides obvious user error because this thing is awesome. Now just waiting on sprint to make it more awesome with nv or LTE.
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Nice topic. This device has exceeded my expectations. Awesome, awesome, awesome!
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I was enjoying my Evo 3D again after finally getting it rooted and running MeanROM/SOS ROM, but I really wanted a better camera to capture pictures of the kids. The GS3 had some appeal but I didn't want to wait and decided to give this one a try first.
- Display: I'm addicted to it and don't think I could give it up. I sometimes prefer watching this than all but my newest TV.
- Kickstand: With this screen and all of the great apps now out for video, this actually is really useful, and the design of it is superb.
- Build: Design is nice, hardware feels super solid. I don't love the glossy plastic part but don't hate it.
- Camera: almost prefect for my use. It's so fast and the UI is very nice. At a kids birthday party over the weekend at a bounce-house, I caught a lot of decent photos and videos I would never be able to get before. I find my photos a tad over saturated, but it does give them a little "pop" that my family seems to like better
- Battery: I wasn't sure about the battery life at first but its great now. I don't mind the non-replaceable battery.
- Storage: With the on-board storage and a 32GB card, plus the 150GB of cloud storage I have among various services, I certainly have plenty of space. The storage configuration with MTP and partitions is a little goofy, but not a huge deal.
I have some gripes about it, but almost all are software (Sense bloat, HTC multitasking killing background music and downloads, the lame multitasking UI, the no-menu-button-3-dot-popup). Once I bite the bullet and root this thing, all of those problems go away.
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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You can go all the way up to 128GB
It supports SDXC, though it isn't advertised.
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Lovin' the dedicated shutter button and fast camera, battery life (compared to my previous HTCs), fast processor, and large screen size.
Lovin' how great the phone looks with a sanded top cover. I'm lovin' Charmeleon ROM 5.0 too.
I've received compliments from others on the super IPS display with wide viewing angle. They also love how thin the phone is.
Much love for this phone!
Image sense rules
Battery life and performance are killer
Form factor plus sense 4.0, sexiest phone ever
Seems like multitasking was better stock than on a custom rom. Currently on fresh 5.1.1
When LTE finally rolls out in LA, iphone fools will be drooling
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I have been on viper Rom now since yesterday with the menu mod.
I can definitely say this Rom is slightly more responsive, and I love the menu button 'fix'.
I believe this Rom brings out the best in what the stock was already making good. Oh, and i have seen improvement on multitasking. It's not perfect, as stated in the roms thread, but it is def better.
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I was looking to upgrade my OG Evo to the new LTE, but after playing around with it at the Sprint store, I'm not so sure.
Maybe people can give me feedback:
1. I really liked the dedicated camera hardware button; but I was hoping this would be a quick way to take a photo from sleep mode. Seemed to me it didn't operate until you turn on phone, unlock screen, etc. So it actually takes longer than the iPhone. Is there any way to make it shoot straight from sleep?
2. I was excited by the 'take stills while shooting video' thing -- but all 3 phones do this.
3. Switching from front to rear camera is a major pain, takes 3 steps. Samsung & iPhone it's instant.
4. Does anyone know of a place to see real-world photos from this phone side by side with iPhone? I know the lens is f2 (vs 2.4), but I have a feeling the optics are better on the iPhone.
5. Does it have a panorama mode? I thought that was already built in to ICS. I couldn't find it. The iPhone panorama is excellent.
Wow, that's a lot of camera-related questions!
6. What's with the "..." at the bottom of the screen in many places? Is that because there's no menu button? It looks odd and out of place.
7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available?
Thanks for any input! I'm having a really hard time with this decision ... Evo LTE vs iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3.
(The iPhone 'feels' like the best device BY FAR (in terms of build quality, design, screen & speed), but I HATE the narrow screen and the absence of a Swype, which I can't imagine living without.)
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ok, you had a lot of questions and most related to camera. so i will try to get you up to speed. before i start i'm in the same boat and need to choose between the iphone 5 (currently have) the galaxy S3 (just traded away from my S2), and the HTC evo 4g lte ( always been an htc fan boy ).
on #1, you're right the camera button does require the phone to be unlocked before use (for now).
#2, yes they all do some sort of pic in video mode. however the aperture on the HTC is the best of the three and the pics taken while doing vids will be better on the HTC...this should help cover #4 as well. as far as finding pics to match i could load a few but most aren't of the same theme.
#3, the switching between rear and front camera...lets be serious. how often do you need instant switching back and forth? but to explain, the camera of the htc is extremely powerful and so just as if you use a high end camera changin a few features may seem slow. trade off comrade, trade off...would you rather a slow focus and quick switch or quick focus and slow switch? also it really isn't that slow. as compared to the S3 it's on par, the iphone is faster but the front facing camera is a joke compared to those of the android counterparts. they all have a panoramic shot mode so dont fret on that, #5 dismissed.
While on the topic of cameras i will say the iphone 5 has an awesome camera compared to the iphone 4/4s but the focus and detail is failing when placed beside the S3 and evo LTE.
now to the fun stuff and why i got the iphone...
first #6, yes the "..." is the menu. no haptic button for the htc. no idea on the rooting yet, i like to test stock before i go tamperin...just seems fair to have a really good device before i make it the perfect one.^_^. . the iphone 5 is a spectacular device specially seeing any device i get right now (i'm a sprint user, *sigh* hopefully loyalty has it's advantages). IOS is a very stable OS and gives a ease of use unchallenged by many. if you've ever had an iphone more so the last three setting up your new iphone should be as easy as syncing to itunes or loading from cloud to have damned near everything loaded for you. . . .BUT it's old, and lame, and too stupid friendly. i make no jabs @ apple, i have both mac and PC and as i said got the iphone 5 and have had every other dating back to the original iphone (SN: anyone else notice how much the latest iphone looks more like the first more so than any other...victim of fashion i guess).
Samsung, oh samasung....i had the S2 and i have to admit, it became one of my favs. i didn't even want the damned thing, but my gurl made me do the "matching" thing. don't laugh, there are far worse options. -,-... back to focus, the S2 was large, beautiful, responsive and gave a so-so battery performance. the new version has all that and then some. it is loaded, wait let me clarify.....LOADED with goodies and features. all eye catching, all empowering, all really cool. and the way they have been presented on tv and web is about to make the next thing i say a shocker to some.... the HTC can do these things to. HTC started the trend of phone gestures on smart phones...back before android on this little known part of history called windows mobile 6. and they've kept it going all along. never really got the front face it deserved but it's had it and the evo is no different. no before i get blasted there are a few features unique to samsung and again why i emphasized on how many there are.
last but definately not least is HTC. they've been my fav for a loooo...insert coffee break here...oong time, since since my 8125 (see cingular). the htc is a thign of beauty in modest form. the power, the look, the camer, the kickstand....is just an awesome picture of what a phone should be. it works awesome as it's predecessor did, without the hellaciously horrendous battery life. it's that nerdy chic in class all grown up. but there inlies her problem...her focus has shifted. she's just as smart as before, smarter even. but she's gotten so shallow that like your "..." problem in #6 things that used to make her intelligence known are now hidden behind a pretty smile.
i've ranted long enough and hopefully helped fix some of your questions. i think i just solved mine. getting the htc tomorrow. glad i could help and thanks for yours.
Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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I'm not a big fan of taking pictures with the front camera. I always considered it as something important for video chatting, not so much taking pictures I actually intend on keeping. It's only 1.3 megapixels as opposed to the 8 on the back.
As for the phone, I like it overall. There are some kinks, but you would be foolish to expect there not to be any a few months after the device launches.
I'm having the contact ringtone not working - haven't gotten an update to fix it that should've been out for a week already. Also have had problems with swype force closing, and have had one glorious occasion where I was stuck in a boot loop. And I'm not even rooted! Ended up factory resetting and losing all my apps.
I really WANT to like it. The battery is awesome, the camera is nice. No ****ing LTE yet, and I'm in Los Angeles - one of the biggest markets in the US. No Jellybean yet either.
I'll wait it out though. I had the old Evo 4G and it was a great year and a half.
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5. Does it have a panorama mode?
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Yes. It's excellent. Up to 5 panes IIRC. I took some pics at the zoo last weekend. They were too big to upload to image shack. Turned out great but you'll have to take my word for it.
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7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available??
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Very easy. I did it with the one click method (it's noob proof). Rooted in about 15 minutes. I'm running the Mean Rom 4.5.1. It's super fast and not buggy. It's the best rom out there IMO. Lots of camera mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727167
Watch the video review in the second link. It shows all the bells & whistles. The new update has a 1.7 overclock kernel.
Read my post about my HTC Evo 4G on a thread I posted a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32045074
And...
Here is a little review of this phone: I wrote this on another thread.
Found a Great vs Review! Keep in mind this was in May! Plus I don't care much for the GS3. This is strictly for The Two Devices Listed Down Below. 
This sumed it up for me! Good thing it shows the differences between camera. I see that the Nexus camera is more of a square format then a wide format. So that right there is a no go on my end. But yea, they are both Superior devices. Wish I can own both...But oh well....
Check out this link for the full review!
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus_id3039/page/2
Posted: 21 May 2012, 07:05 , by Brian K.
Processor and Memory:
Samsung uses a 1.2GHz dual core TI OMAP4460 processor, while EVO 4G LTE is powered by a dual core Qualcomm S4. Both run on 1GB of RAM. The Samsung opts for 32GB of internal storage, whereas HTC only offers 16GB built-in but has expandable memory for another possible 64GB. HTC also partnered with Dropbox to give users activating an EVO 4G LTE 25GB of free cloud storage. Both run the OS quickly and fluidly, and in everyday use it is likely that you wouldn’t notice much of a difference. There is something to be said for the heavy graphical load of Sense 4.0 and how well the EVO 4G LTE handles it.
When it comes to benchmarks, however, the EVO 4G LTE mops the floor with the Nexus. Besting our previous scores, the EVO 4G LTE was able to achieve just shy of 5500 on Quadrant Standard, with the Galaxy Nexus topping out just over 2000 at its best. Nenamark 2 gave similar results, with the EVO 4G LTE topping out at 58.8fps and the Galaxy Nexus less than half that 24.9fps. On AnTuTu the EVO 4G LTE maxed out a few points shy of 7000, with the Galaxy Nexus far behind at about 5100 (with the rest of its scores down in the mid 4000s.) It is pretty clear that Qualcomm’s latest and greatest is up the challenge of some heavy computing.
Camera:
A reworked camera app was one of the selling points of Android 4.0, and we have to say we’re impressed with the instant capture feature that the Galaxy Nexus offers. The interface is better, but still clunky and worlds behind the HTC interface found on the EVO 4G LTE. The technology behind the Nexus’ camera is also lagging behind; Samsung opted for a 5 megapixel f2.8 camera while HTC went with an 8 megapixel f2.0 with backside illumination. Both are capable of producing some great shots, and at times the Galaxy Nexus bested the EVO 4G LTE, but the majority of the time the HTC outperformed the Samsung.
Colors were more natural with the EVO 4G LTE, details were crisper and tricky lighting conditions were handled much better. The Galaxy Nexus struggled with color saturation, backlight situations and light/dark contrast (such as shooting shadows.) The EVO 4G LTE bested the Galaxy Nexus especially indoors, where the latter had a tendency to lose details quickly, as evidenced by the pantry shot.
Conclusion:
These are undoubtedly the two best Android devices Sprint has to offer, and really are two of the best smartphones available today. Some of this is going to come down to preferences, for example Sense versus stock or AMOLED versus S-LCD. All things considered the HTC EVO 4G LTE was the better performer of the pair in our opinion. It offers a superior display, top notch performance, excellent call quality and has an inspired design. The Galaxy Nexus is not without merit, and we would certainly carry one as our everyday phone if one were handed to us, but given the choice the HTC edges out the Nexus in too many categories to call it even.
When it comes to cameras, I know wassup! This Evo 4G LTE is a beast comparing it to any iPhone! Android in general had panorama way back even before the iPhone had it. And to tell you the truth its on top of its game. Don't expect to take excellent shots with either or. Cause what you see on the commercials is not what you get in real life. It takes dedication & a Non-Moving subject for it to come out perfect. Like "landscape"
But yea, Im a big camera person. And for I to choose this camera over any other phone camera means a lot in my line of Hobby!
The only thing is, if you are planning to upload to facebook. There is something with facebook that it does not let it load its full resolution. The only way for it to upload full resolution of a photo is if you pass it over to your computer and upload it that way. Or I think uploading it through the App "google chrome" should do the trick. Facebook app sucks on Android! I have to admit that on Apple, facebook app its the best!
I know because I owned a iPhone 4 and my girl owns a iPhone 4S!
But yea, if you are not a fan of a little screen. The iPhone is not going to make justice.
Watching YouTube videos, movies, tv shows, playing a game on the Evo 4G LTE screen has become one of my best experience then doing so on a iPhone screen.
Keep that in mind!
One last thing about the camera between the Evo 4G LTE & any iPhone!
This camera shoots widescreen shots and keeps a aperture of 2.2 or I think 2.0 which is Heavenly good. The bigger the aperture the better the lens! It gives great depth of field, it also as on-board effects that I often play with. My favorite is "over exposed" which is a Black & white effect.
Here are some examples!
I posted nights shots for to see how great it captures light and night scenes! It may not look superb due to uploading with xda but on the phone it looks great!
Camera is about the same quality on all three phones.
You can add camera to lockscreen.
I'd pick the S3 (currently what I use, despite being a HTC fanboy).
Don't chain yourself to Apple.
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evo 4g lte beats every phone in speed.. i have tested it using every benchmark and quadrant app thats out and the evo wins in all of them :good:
Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
Good article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/08/30/hands-on-how-cyanogenmod-10-fixed-my-evo-4g-lte/
Does anyone know about this from the comments?
Rohan Mathur • a month ago
Just an FYI Liam, we are moving the entire HTC MSM8960 family from proprietary library files to an Open Source HAL for Camera. Guess what that means? Near perfect camera
My device (the One XL), the HTC One S, and your device, the Evo 4G LTE are all making the switch. The new camera libraries are working very, very well.
Should be merged either tonight or tomorrow. Big props to dzo from XDA for his flatout amazing work.
Track the commit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
And here is the commit for your device for building the opensourced Camera HAL: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
EDIT: Commit was merged last night, should be included in nightlies from now on.
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Sounds like someone from the CM dev team ... has anyone tried CM10?
It looks AWESOME .... does it now have all the camera functions?
(And it fixes the menu button issue.)
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Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Steven 1 said:
I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Don't doubt it cause its happening to me. I'm stock to the bone! And yes I am on 4.1 sense.
The only thing I could think being that you are stock is to try a factory reset.
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I'll try that.. but I'm not really in the need for a menu buttons. I guess I'll wait until.. One, I root my Evo or Two: HTC, comes out with JB.
Not really related but I took this awesome shot of the sunrise the other day.