There is a lot of 'My new phone has bugs' threads, and maybe rightly so, as with any new device... But I would like to make a positive thread about how we are loving our EVOs!
Love my screen size
The functionality that Sense gives me
My 64gb SD card
People ask what phone I have once they see the back design
Google wallet usage
I've had more comments on it's kickstand that I had with the EVO 4G's kickstand for some reason.
I love how thin it is (coming from an EVO 4G)
The awesome battery life (I'm seeing about 16 hours yeilds around 20% battery left the last few days
Happy to stay with Sprint and tether unlimitedly (within reason) hehe
I love having root and having the same features that my EVO 4G had when I left it
The MODs already available that I've applied
Looking forward to the ROMs that really turn me on. I haven't flashed any just yet. Waiting to see what gets cooked up.
I'm very happy with my phone.
Any noteworthy experiences you've had with it being out and about?
I'm pretty impressed so far.
+Battery Life
+Screen (way better than my Epic 4G and I compared it to a co-worker's ATT Galaxy II and there's no comparison).
+Fast, loading some apps tooks forever on my Epic 4G. Really see the shining power of an additional core and +500 mhz
+Faster 3G speeds, not by much but hey I'll take what I can get
+I much prefer Sense over TouchWhiz
+Kickstand, I place it right infront of my laptop at work and it doesn't budge
+Unlimited data, even if it's slow I don't see justifying an additional $20-50 for other data plans on Big Red or ATT (I use over 5GB a month normally).
-Google Wallet: not sure what Google's deal is here, maybe they're withholding due to Sprint's plans but I managed to fix it with the build.prop/SU workaround but for those who don't want to risk root/messing with files I can see how this is frustrating, especially if they have $10 burning a hole in their phone (not wallet, cwutIdidther?)
Neutral: Multi-tasking. I can see where people get frustrated at this but I don't have 4-5 apps I need open and re-opening them isn't a big deal to me. Sometimes I use Pandora and I like a song, pause it, do something else, then return to it and it re-loads and loads a new song. Kind of annoying but whatever.
I love the phone to. This is my first HTC. My last was a nexus s 4g. (great phone btw). I like the build quality and sence. The speed and battery are amazing.
I love when someone whips out their iPhone and my screen is as big as their entire phone.
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Loving NFC right now, holy crap where was this 2009 ago?
Digging the Camera that has put to death HTCs long history of $#itty white balancing. The instant shutter brings tears of joy to my eyes.
Finally nice to have some decent internal memory for once.
And the screen, the money maker, superb.
This will be the 1st phone I'll be holding onto for 2 years (or plan to anyway) since the.... well ever.
I'm enjoying it thus far. I had an HTC TouchPro, a TP2, the OG Evo, the Evo 3D, and now the Evo LTE. Not really an HTC fanboy, but the phones they've put out on Sprint have always met my needs, and there's always been an upgraded one available when I got the upgrade itch.
I love the battery life, the screen is awesome, and the camera is phenomenal, especially for a phone camera. On the whole I like Sense, and it's one of the better interfaces for Android I've played with in terms of integration and functionality that it adds. I don't like how buggy and laggy it can get, how it can slow down the phone, and how it has a few settings/features I wish were easier to turn off, but the positives definitely outweigh the negatives.
I can't wait until the dev community matures some more and we see some different variations/tweaks, a fully functional CM9, a wider variety of ROMs, and some themes to throw around.
Oh, and after flashing Freiza's kernel, a lot of my slow down/lag has dropped out. Add in the PKMN ROM with both cores, and it's a much improved experience with negligible impact on battery life. WIN!
Fantastic camera (for a phone).
Amazing screen quality.
Phone is solid, does not feel cheap.
Sense 4.0 is great compared to other Sense versions. It is nice to see a more "less is more" approach from HTC on this one. Of course it is still heavy compared to AOSP, but it is very light compared to older Sense versions.
Went from launch day EVO, to launch day EVO 3D, then to this. This phone feels very light (my 3D had a Seidio Surface case on it, so it weighed a bit more than normal). I love the camera features that come stock on this compared to the last two EVO phones.
(Everyone who posted so far got a thanks from me for the positive comments. It is nice to see a positive thread for once. Seems all people want to do is complain these days, not here specifically... I mean in general.)
The other day someone asked me if it was an iPhone, that says enough for me. Seriously though I am very happy with this device and sorry to see so many issues being reported. I don't have a single one.
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I love it almost as much as my wife. (but not quite)
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raiderep said:
The other day someone asked me if it was an iPhone, that says enough for me. Seriously though I am very happy with this device and sorry to see so many issues being reported. I don't have a single one.
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No issues here either!
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- I love the screen, it's gorgeous. I thought the screen on my Epic 4G was amazing and this blows it away (and the screen on my Transformer). It's really fast, has a great camera and amazing battery life. My friend has the GS2 and I was wowed by that when he got it, I thought it was super thin and fast and the Evo makes that look like a dinosaur.
Oh yes I'm lovin it, can't wait until all the awesome new development starts to flow (MIUI) and any and all tricks and hacks.
this phone is already very nice and it will only get better, I love my new toy.
SD Card Size?
typhoonikan said:
There is a lot of 'My new phone has bugs' threads, and maybe rightly so, as with any new device... But I would like to make a positive thread about how we are loving our EVOs!
Love my screen size
The functionality that Sense gives me
My 64gb SD card
People ask what phone I have once they see the back design
Google wallet usage...
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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If you format the 64 GB card using the phone, it works. I have a 64 GB card in my Evo LTE right now.
Well I said it with the og EVO. And now ill have to re state that this is the best phone I've ever had. Solid. Smooth. And just works. I absolutely have no issues with it that occur any more than a 1 time thing. Don't and probably never will understand the issues others experience besides obvious user error because this thing is awesome. Now just waiting on sprint to make it more awesome with nv or LTE.
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Nice topic. This device has exceeded my expectations. Awesome, awesome, awesome!
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I was enjoying my Evo 3D again after finally getting it rooted and running MeanROM/SOS ROM, but I really wanted a better camera to capture pictures of the kids. The GS3 had some appeal but I didn't want to wait and decided to give this one a try first.
- Display: I'm addicted to it and don't think I could give it up. I sometimes prefer watching this than all but my newest TV.
- Kickstand: With this screen and all of the great apps now out for video, this actually is really useful, and the design of it is superb.
- Build: Design is nice, hardware feels super solid. I don't love the glossy plastic part but don't hate it.
- Camera: almost prefect for my use. It's so fast and the UI is very nice. At a kids birthday party over the weekend at a bounce-house, I caught a lot of decent photos and videos I would never be able to get before. I find my photos a tad over saturated, but it does give them a little "pop" that my family seems to like better
- Battery: I wasn't sure about the battery life at first but its great now. I don't mind the non-replaceable battery.
- Storage: With the on-board storage and a 32GB card, plus the 150GB of cloud storage I have among various services, I certainly have plenty of space. The storage configuration with MTP and partitions is a little goofy, but not a huge deal.
I have some gripes about it, but almost all are software (Sense bloat, HTC multitasking killing background music and downloads, the lame multitasking UI, the no-menu-button-3-dot-popup). Once I bite the bullet and root this thing, all of those problems go away.
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Am I missing something? I thought the Evo 4G LTE could only handle a 32 GB card.
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You can go all the way up to 128GB
It supports SDXC, though it isn't advertised.
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Lovin' the dedicated shutter button and fast camera, battery life (compared to my previous HTCs), fast processor, and large screen size.
Lovin' how great the phone looks with a sanded top cover. I'm lovin' Charmeleon ROM 5.0 too.
I've received compliments from others on the super IPS display with wide viewing angle. They also love how thin the phone is.
Much love for this phone!
Image sense rules
Battery life and performance are killer
Form factor plus sense 4.0, sexiest phone ever
Seems like multitasking was better stock than on a custom rom. Currently on fresh 5.1.1
When LTE finally rolls out in LA, iphone fools will be drooling
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I have been on viper Rom now since yesterday with the menu mod.
I can definitely say this Rom is slightly more responsive, and I love the menu button 'fix'.
I believe this Rom brings out the best in what the stock was already making good. Oh, and i have seen improvement on multitasking. It's not perfect, as stated in the roms thread, but it is def better.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
i have not played with the Sensation but I was surprised at how the phone feels in my hand, which is very nice. It has good weight but doesn't feel bulky. I came from the HeroC and was a little worried going from one that was small to one that was so big. But I have barely even noticed. As for day to day usage, I think it works great. I haven't had battery problems unless i sit and play some big game for a couple of hours.
It's great, size wise: the EVO 3D is chunkier (The version Europe will get could be thinner, our CDMA powered phones tend to be thinker, also battery life on your EVO will be better than ours & your Sensation, as it packs a bigger battery. The Sensation feels better in the hand but the EVO 3D isn't uncomfortable at all, its better in the hand than the EVO 4G was.
We have fewer hardware issues & our software issues were addressed fast, it could be HTC or Sprint, I'm not sure but updates have been pretty swift.
Again this could vary with the EUR EVO 3D.
The Developer scene is good, some minor things may be interchangeable now but once the bootloaders come loose, ROMs won't be interchangable with this section.
Thats not to say you won't get great development when it lands. Its a waiting game as it stands.
You'll like the dedicated camera button, bigger battery, the 3D, the Extra ram & the slightly better processor.
Vondafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
I so far love it. Feels good in my hand very solid feel. the haptic touch is very tight and screen is responsive to everything.
What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
I currently own the evo 3d, it is a great phone. Feels great, runs FAST, and the battery life is great for myself. You can't go wrong with it. The extra ram compared to the sensation is nice as well.
Thanks for all your responses so far, I really appreciate the feedback! I am strongly considering waiting for the Evo 3D, I think I may be able to bear the Nexus One for a few more weeks - it seems so tiny now
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What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
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I think the Samsung Galaxy S2 has quite a few very significant downfalls/design problems. While in theory a great phone (fast, very thin design) these did push my decision to buying a Sensation:
low display resolution: 800x480 is no longer enough for me - fonts get much crisper and more readable with qHD, websites display a much larger area, list views are better. The Sensations/Evo 3Ds higher resolution makes all the difference, improves the quality by a lot.
extreme colour banding: The S2s display shows an extreme amount of colour banding, apparent in almost all applications. Better black levels aren't worth such atrocious colour reproduction.
uncomfortable ergonomics: Yes, the design is very slim, but that comes at a price: The thin edges make the phone pretty uncomfortable to hold, long calls are awkward due to the sharp upper edge, very close to the speaker. The hand-feeling is very off, compared to the cushy Sensation.
TouchWiz is absolutely terrible: What Samsung did to Android is extremely sad - their launcher apes the iPhones launcher, including all of its faults (no sorting of apps by alphabet, unelegant). The TouchWiz stock-android-replacements (calendar, email, music) are all of atrocious quality, including glaring bugs or featuring terrible usability.
I cannot speak to the GS2, but coming from the Epic to the EVO 3D, I have a thought.
It seems that samsung makes some really great hardware, but their software/support is minimal at best.
HTC in comparison seems to have much stronger support in terms of apps, widgets, and just overall Android enhancement. Not only was touch wiz anemic as far as features go, but it seemed to lock out any other customization.
For example, i couldn't find any sort of lock screen app/widget/customization that would replace the stock locker. instead, it sorta came either before or after the samsung lock. The Epic just seemed hard to tweak/customize, and they offered no worthwhile widgets or apps of their own. Stock Clock? Weather Clock? The froyo update finally allowed some sort of location-aware weather, but that was barely functional at best.
It also appeared that, while samsung, on the surface, had the better hardware, the OS and apps did not seem to take proper advantage of the better CPU/GPU setup. Now, I did try the leaked gingerbread, and it was a significant improvement. However, there were stability issues that kept me away. Plus, i had no faith that the Epic would continue to get support and upgrades. I think that Samsung/Sprint would rather push the new hardware rather than risk cannibalizing new sales by upgrading previous products.
So, overall, samsung/sprint have left me very skeptical of any future purchases, not because of quality or hardware, but because of the policies and behavior of the manufacturer.
By the way, while this appears to be off topic, I should mention that I currently have an EVO 3D, which makes the epic look like an unpolished toy at best. And I think the Epic is great, but totally mismanaged/underutilized.
Well I think the gs2 is a nice phone.
However I both chose and love my EVO3d because...
I started android day 1 with g1. It was a work horse. Everything worked.
Eventually I went to the Samsung Vibrant. The damn phone had a great screen. But never worked right.
It never got updates. Took forever.
Moved on to the g2x. It had potential. But my phone would heat up to the point I had to take it out of my pocket. Once in a meeting and luckily my boss was willing to hear me out and felt it. She just said damn. You need to get exchanged.
My wife could not get hers to switch from data to WiFi . No matter the amount of resets. Ever.
Tmobile sent refurbished phones. The phones were 18 days owned. they tried to replace brand new 18 days owned purchased full out phones with refurbs.
We left to Sprint and got the EVO3d.
Mine is all love and good. Hers has a signal issue. Hers has to be returned.
We have issues. We went through wirefly. They need 250 to return a phone. Then they refund. We can't afford that. 4 kids.
So I'm worried wirefly just sold me a defective phone and I won't be able to get a working EVO
Sprint says hers has never connected right to the network. It doesn't stay connected.
It's a defective unit.
If it wasn't for that we would be as satisfied as we were with our g1's.
The phone is great.
I've played a plenty with the sensation. Pretty much the same. But when you power up the sensation its smooth for a little. The you open the internet. Or xda. It keeps that running in the background cache.
Then you see that jittery effect.
The EVO3d does not suffer the jitter type problem. Ever. It is just smooth.
Honest.
3d movies. Wow.
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Another Galaxy negative: As someone who always carries a spare battery and therefore exchanges it regularly (when needed), the flimsy SGS2 back cover was pretty unnerving to me - especially combined with the much worse battery life I experienced with that phone, compared to the Sensations pretty excellent runtime.
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Vodafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
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I am not all that exalted about HTCs decision to have a one-month Vodafone/A1/Swisscom exclusivity period before the unlocked release. But I will probably wait the wait for the SIM-free option.
Title says it all... Now that we have had some time to use the Photon for a while, how are you getting along? I bought one over the Evo 3D and I am happier with my choice now than when I got it August 4th. I have tried the Evo 3D, as I picked one up on CL for a song and after giving it a full week to see if I liked Sense 3.0 / 3D goodness, I could not wait to get back to the Photon! I realise there are lots more options for customization on other phones, but the Photon is the 1st Android phone I am happy with after a simple root and wifi tether. This phone is FAST, has ample storage, and a feature set that is not equaled on any other smartphone from Sprint. Webtop is a great tool for being on the go, and getting some browsing done. The tegra 2 has a great selection of 3d games available. The business features this phone includes are also a godsend. Finally I can have conference calls dail automatically, and sign me in afterwards! Then we have the radios, which are without equal on any CDMA device I have used! Call quality is superb, and the speaker is loud enough for a boardroom full of people. The camera is much better than the Evo 3D as well, both for stills and video. The screen is fantastic, bright and easily viewable in direct sunlight. I don't think I have ever been so happy with an Android phone as I am with this one. What do you all think? TIA...
Oh no another thread on the Photon being great or crap
Anyways I can truly say I love the Photon to bitz beats all my other devices hands down and I've had the best, seven handsets this year alone which I can't be arsed to list again. Sound and call quality are great, looks great, feels great, root, unlocked bootloader. Just a fantastic phone
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Oh no another thread on the Photon being great or crap
Anyways I can truly say I love the Photon to bitz beats all my other devices hands down and I've had the best, seven handsets this year alone which I can't be arsed to list again. Sound and call quality are great, looks great, feels great, root, unlocked bootloader. Just a fantastic phone
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this but I'm not unlocked yet ... waiting for working CM7 first
I'm fine with it, although I don't need the reassurance from other people that many here seem to require.
it's way better than the evo 3d, that's for sure. i still liked my evo 4g better though. mainly cause of CM7 though. i think if the photon had CM7 it'd be better than the evo 4g, the evo 4g only winning with screen quality.
The only thing going for the evo3d is the development, adreno 220 and the qHD screen, photon IMHO is a higher quality phone all around, its just lacking in the screen resolution. If the photon had the evo3d qHD screen it would be the perfect phone.
I'm not sure how someone else feels about your phone choice has anything to do with this topic, but moving on. The adreno 220 is certainly more powerful than geforce in the tegra 2, but the cortex a9 seems to make up for it somewhat. The phone certainly doesn't feel slow in any way. You know how it is, once the "perfect" phone comes out, something better will surely be on the horizon.
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I'm fine with it, although I don't need the reassurance from other people that many here seem to require.
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Love the Photon, but loved the EVO 3D before that and the Evo 4G before that. And will love whatever's next. No phone is perfect, though of course by definition since I've kept it, I think the Photon is the closest so far. Some people do seem to have their self-esteem directly tied to whether you agree that you love their phone and that your different phone is clearly inferior. Don't think that the OP has that issue. Just following the previous poster's tangent....
But, back on topic ....
I quite like the Photon's screen outdoors and like that it has a SIM card slot. It was quite nice to slap a cheap Asian SIM card in my old (1 year ago LOL!) Touch Pro 2 and call the US for $0.06/minute instead of $2.99/minute. One of the reasons I bought the Photon, and hope that I am not wowed by the new Samsung (not likely, I think). And Photon so far has great radios - my HTC phones all struggled in my home, a bit of a Sprint dead spot.
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I'm not sure how someone else feels about your phone choice has anything to do with this topic, but moving on. The adreno 220 is certainly more powerful than geforce in the tegra 2, but the cortex a9 seems to make up for it somewhat. The phone certainly doesn't feel slow in any way. You know how it is, once the "perfect" phone comes out, something better will surely be on the horizon.
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Yeah - no phone is ever perfect, or remains the newest/best for very long. But, I'm quite happy with the Photon - no complaints or issues. Love the screen, radios and form factor (not just a rectangular slab). Feel like we'll continue to get good updates from Moto.
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The only thing going for the evo3d is the development, adreno 220 and the qHD screen, photon IMHO is a higher quality phone all around, its just lacking in the screen resolution. If the photon had the evo3d qHD screen it would be the perfect phone.
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We all have different eyes and corresponding perceptual differences. I was prepared to hate the Pentile display based on reviews - but when I went in the sprint store, was quite surprised to find that my eyes definitely prefer the Photon over my old (now wife's new) EVO 3d. To my eyes, the Photon is whiter, brighter, crisper and better in sunlight that the 3D.
Also, the 3d and Photon are the first phones where I feel I can just happily live with a rooted stock ROM. So community ROM development not important to me anymore. Just want the phone vendor to push Android fixes and updates to me; feel Moto will be #1, HTC #2, Samsung #3.
love the photon
just like a lot of you guys i love the photon, but also loved the htc evo 3d and before that the htc evo 3g....they all are great phones....the main reason i like the photon is that it has the capablities of the webtop feature and also has a lot more device orrientied accesseries which make the phone even better.....
Im reasonably happy with my photon. It for the most part gets the job done. Am annoyed with it rebooting a few times a day. Also I don't have the same feeling about it as I had when I had my nexus one. That phone was great.
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Got this phone last week, actually brought phone back to Sprint to exchange for the Epic 4g Touch then decided not to. Reasons are:
1. Even tho the ET has a bigger screen, the resolution blows even with the new amoled. The amoled makes things more 'vibrant' but it overdoes it. The pinks look red and whites look off-white. You can fix this by lowering the vibrance to 1/3 but that still makes it look off. The photon is more lifelike in pictures and color quality.
2. Holding the phones, the ET feels like a toy. Photon feels more like a premium phone.
3. Camera quality is equal.
4.Call quality and speaker quality is better on the photon.
5. ET has a faster processor and smokes the photon in quadrant tests. But in real word applications, they are both similiar speed.
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it's way better than the evo 3d, that's for sure. i still liked my evo 4g better though. mainly cause of CM7 though. i think if the photon had CM7 it'd be better than the evo 4g, the evo 4g only winning with screen quality.
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I agree on this one........ET got it right screen size IMHO. Great antenna here though and speaker
Guess I'm one of the insecure one, since this is my first Android phone. But I agree - the MoPho just works. Light years ahead of my Palm Pre, though it has its quirks. If the proximity sensor issue could be fixed, that would be nice. One I use bluetooth to make a call, I have to hit the power button, unlock and then hit the call end button just to end a call.
But in the scheme of things, it's a pretty minor annoyance. I am on my second bad headphone jack, though. Thinking of just going BT for headphones as well at this point.
But I love this phone.
I'm in love with this. Device what's not to like about it? Running blazing steady with great battery life at 1ghz dual core steady 3g and amazingly fast 4g where it's available of corse, and screen size is just right rooted for tethering when on the road couldn't be any happier with a phone I and the the build quality and design is great!!
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I'm fine with it, although I don't need the reassurance from other people that many here seem to require.
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These kind of threads are useful for people like me who are looking for info on (potentially) their next phone.
I started on Android with a Moto Backflip, which was not a bad phone with Motoblur removed. The idea of a Motorola Android phone with no MotoBlur is interesting. I am actually looking at the US Cellular version of this (the Electrify).
Really wanting to get one next month for sure on my birthday!
I'd have to say I'm very happy. It just works, both my pre and Evo 4g seemed to have issues that forced me to root to compensated. The Photon just seems like a solid device, its smooth and has great battery.
The only down side for me right now is the lack video chat, I'd like the Photon to enjoy the same support HTC has, but I have a feeling that eventually it will all get worked out.
Ultimately its the right phone for me, but the choice is becoming increasingly difficult with Sprints line up.
My Own Opinion
I mainly purchased the phone because I'm going to be traveling to China soon and wanted an international phone. The phone seems fast and I love the amount of internal memory, but I find the interface and screen lacking. It is a personal opinion and other may feel differently. I previously had the evo4g and ran Sprint Lovers, Myn, CM7, and many others. In the end I settled on Synergy. My wife currently uses the phone now. Eveytime I pick up the phone I miss the interface. I like the tabbed notification toggle and really miss the exchange sync with the ability to view all new messages in all folders from one view. I also can tell a big difference in screens.
I do have to admit after giving it some time the screen isn't as noticeable as when you first get it and I understand the reason behind it.
That being said I do like the phone. Battery life seems on par if not better and the phone itself feels much more sturdy. I think starting out HTC spoiled my view on the android interface as well as the ability to unlock. HTC has no "fuse" that I ever read about and seemed simpler.
I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet because I use the 4g and the 3g sucks by my work. As soon as that is done it will be unlocked.
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I mainly purchased the phone because I'm going to be traveling to China soon and wanted an international phone. The phone seems fast and I love the amount of internal memory, but I find the interface and screen lacking. It is a personal opinion and other may feel differently. I previously had the evo4g and ran Sprint Lovers, Myn, CM7, and many others. In the end I settled on Synergy. My wife currently uses the phone now. Eveytime I pick up the phone I miss the interface. I like the tabbed notification toggle and really miss the exchange sync with the ability to view all new messages in all folders from one view. I also can tell a big difference in screens.
I do have to admit after giving it some time the screen isn't as noticeable as when you first get it and I understand the reason behind it.
That being said I do like the phone. Battery life seems on par if not better and the phone itself feels much more sturdy. I think starting out HTC spoiled my view on the android interface as well as the ability to unlock. HTC has no "fuse" that I ever read about and seemed simpler.
I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet because I use the 4g and the 3g sucks by my work. As soon as that is done it will be unlocked.
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If you miss the HTC Sense UI (and I do a little), consider:
- a launcher like Launcher Pro (free, or Plus $3.50), ADW, Go Launcher; with
- Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets (about $2)
After a bit of research, I just last night bought the first one in each of the 2 lines above for total about $6. I find the stock Android a bit bland myself, and also was a bit spoiled by Sense.
Also - from reading other posts at other forums, there may be different HW revs of the phone floating around. One poster commented on the Photon store display model showing lots of pixelation, but the new out of box one he got did not have it. My store model and one I bought were both great. Maybe you need to swap. And maybe I'm fortunate that my eyes just don't see it - but after reading the Pentile reviews and sample screenshots, I am convinced that they largely fixed the problem in perhaps rev2 of the display/phone.
I've already unrooted mine, but am happy enough with stock (with a few 3rd party addons like mentioned above) that I doubt I'll ever unlock it a flash it. (And I spent a lot of time cooking WinMo ROMs in my own kitchen)
I also miss the EVO 3d's "all emails from all accounts" in one view!
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These kind of threads are useful for people like me who are looking for info on (potentially) their next phone.
I started on Android with a Moto Backflip, which was not a bad phone with Motoblur removed. The idea of a Motorola Android phone with no MotoBlur is interesting. I am actually looking at the US Cellular version of this (the Electrify).
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I checked out the ET twice this week definitely like the photon more. The photon screen is sharper and a lot brighter, and the photon seems to be more responsive, and has better download speeds.
At this point I don't understand why everyone loves the ET.
Photon has been rock solid for me.
I have the nexus but I miss sense. Had the 3d forever liked it but switched to Verizon and liked this phone but, I am so used to all the sense widgets and look. Just debating and looking for feedback on me trading out for rezound... all feedback helps....
These threads should cover it all for you:
Switched from a Nexus to a Rezound
Yet another traded my Nexus for a Rezound post (novel)
Made the Switch
Switching to the Rezound - a few questions...
May switch from nexus...have some questions
I'm about to go the other way. Started on the Rezound... Nexus is probably where I'll end up.
I have compared these two phones rather extensively. We have a VZ corporate account where I work & I am the head of it. We have close to 200 phones on the account & I set up every one of them.
I get my phones free & I can basically have any phone I want at any time. If I wanted a GN, I could have one this afternoon & we have probably 20 of them here on our account.
There is only one thing I like better about the GN(now that the Rezound has been unlocked) & that is the screen size. I like that a LOT, if I could get a phone with a 5" screen I would buy it today. That being said, there is absolutely nothing else I like about the GN compared to the awesome Rezound.
I have owned a TON of phones & the Rezound is by far the best phone I have ever used.
~John
I love my Rezound. When I came from Sprint I bought the Rezound, picked up a GN, and exchanged it after 24 hours for another Rezound.
You can get just about any senselike widget in the market for your gn. I just got rid of my nexus for the resound. It fits in my hand much better. I do miss the large screen, soft keys, aosp roms, and super active forums of the gn though. Other than that, the rezound is just more comfortable in my hand which is the main reason I returned my gn. Oh yeah and the camera sucked on the gn. The rezound has better battery life.
Switched from a Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks ago - still very happy.
I think ICS is a step backward and the GN felt cheap and clumsy to hold. Love the Rezound - just wish it had more game compatibility.
I have both phones. Each has their perks, but the Rezound is my #1.
nexus holds nothing to this phone, IMO. i sell much more of these than nexuses... or nexi. lol
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Yes, still very happy with the phone. Wish it had better game support though. Also, for having an HD screen the picture quality on my Netflix is awful. Would have expected it to be the same or better than my ipad or ipod but it's quite a bit worse. The occasional screen glitch when opening or closing apps is slightly annoying but that could just be an issue with my phone and not every one though.
Overall, very satisfied with this phone. There are some features I would love to have but you could probably say the same thing about any phone.
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Also, for having an HD screen the picture quality on my Netflix is awful. .
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Netflix does not display in HD on the Rezound, that is one place the Nexus is better if you care about that. I use Netflix all the time, but I have an ipad 2 for that so I don't really care.
On the other hand, I am a big time football fan & I absolutely LOVE the VZ NFL app & last I knew that app doesn't work at all in the Nexus.
~John
I was lucky enough to have both phones for several weeks to compare and contrast. I sent the Nexus back to Verizon yesterday in favor of the Rezound. The Nexus has hardware issues that I could not live with. Specifically, the radios, the camera, and overall cheap build quality. Firmware updates and modding will never fix these issues.
I get having the Nexus for true development activities, but in terms of "real-world" functionality, the Rezound is the better device.
well I'm pretty confident I'm gonna switch. I sure appreciate everybody's input.
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I just happen to stumble across this in a comparison of the Nexus & the Rezound. These are not my words, this is copied & pasted from a review online:
Advantages of the Rezound over the Nexus:
1) At first a gimmick, I really like the iBeats and software for casual listening as I travel
2) The camera is much better
3) The hardware (CPU, GPU, Screen) are better IMHO
4) I like the feel of the Rezound much better
5) MASS Storage is possible
6) I moved my Class 10 SDMHC 32GB memory card from my old phone to my new (48GB total)
7) The extended battery is about 500 mAh larger
8) My EVO 4G was very well supported by HTC
9) Highest DPI screen in a phone, ever...
Here are my thoughts on the rezound. I will preface this by stating that I was, prior to my journey to verizon, an iphone (since 2007) user, up to and I still have the 4s on AT&T. I have carried a Verizon mi-fi, 4g hotspot, droid charge (solely for hotspot and unlimited data).
I was waiting to pull the trigger on any phone until the gnex arrived. I was underwhelmed with the phone hardware. While I live in SoCal, I am surrounded by hills and Verizon coverage is weak. All signal indications aside, I couldn't hold a call or a data connection with the Gnex. Loved ICS, it was very smooth and felt "polished" to a large extent.
I finally gave up and traded in for the rezound, because I liked the specs. I also picked up a droid razr to play around with. I am having a hard time between the two. I am spoiled by the iphone's display and I think the Rez is every bit as good, if not better on my eyes. It really is like reading printed material. I like that. But, it is think and I seem to see it switching off more to 3g than the razr. I like the feeling of the razr in my hand. It feels like a mini-tablet, but yet still small enough to be a phone. (does that make sense at all). However, I don't think I can live with seeing the pixelation on the display. Just spent the last 1.5 years without it and I don't think I can go back.
The rez is a great phone, but may be too thick for me and I don't particularly care for sense. I am going to desense it and see if that solves some of my issues. I know enough to know that if I don't enjoy using the phone, I will find something else to complain about (in this case, the thickness).
Just my experience so far. These are simply my opinions, and everyone has different hot buttons.
FYI, I don't really play games or use my phone for much more than some specific apps, email, talking (yes people still do that), and browsing. The iphone did that just fine, but was getting a little long in the tooth from a UI standpoint and I just hate the AT&T network drops and dead zones.
-jason
Headed to Verizon to exchange. Thanks for the responses.
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I'm very happy with mi rezound! I bought the nexus the day it came out after lurking it forever!!!However the phone just didn't do it for me. I'm no developer or anything(never rooted before) so maybe that's why I didn't dig the nexus so much. The battery was horrid, speaker made crazy screeching noises, lost data throughout the day, screen was a bit big/grainy, pictures I took sucked though instant, and also had problems with it rebooting while charging. I miss the sweet notification light, and ICS..thats bout it. I feel like samsung didn't want this phone to be much of a beast like anticipated...look at the comparisons to the galaxy s2.
Funny story with HTC, first time I got a phone it was the motorola droid2...suckked. Being the DINC was out so long, I never even bothered to check it out...though when I returned the droid2 for the DINC I was blown away of how sick HTC is...sorta similar to my second experience when upgrading my phone.
The rezound is great, I like the smaller size and battery life(When I bike, I always put it in my gym short pockets and jam to pandora...this seems nearly impossible to do with the nexus due to its size and short battery life). Quality of pictures are outstanding! The durability of the rezound is also promising. Sense is sweet too though I mainly use goexplorer...The speaker on the rezound is great, goes so loud!(so much better than the DINC2 speaker btw). I was also surprised that the rezound comes with many features that the nexus has(e.g. ability to have no screen lock, panorama picture abilities, slowmo video taking, ability to take screen shots). Basically this phone is an DINC on steroids...or maybe after going through puberty?
Reading these posts makes me glad i got rid of my nexus.
Just installed an HD Netflix app and it works super.
~John
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Just installed an HD Netflix app and it works super.
~John
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where did you find that?
So I owned the Epic 4g Touch for about 6 months and then just last week traded down to the 3vo (along with some cash, to save up for the next Evo...gotta start saving now people!). The reason why, mostly, is because the dev section here is better and I miss Sense. AOSP fans, you can stop booing now.
So I've made some comparisons based on my 6 months with the Epic Touch and now my week with the Evo 3D (having it properly rooted, s-off and flashing some fun roms here and there).
Pros for the Epic Touch.
1. Beast chipset. Quadrant scores were amazing, but even for the benchmark haters the phone rarely lagged. Never lagged actually, unless you forced it to or you were using Google Voice (which will lag everything, I don't care what it is). Never a bump in performance in anything from Playstation Emulators to pinch to zoom. Watch review videos. Butter smooth.
2. Epic camera. Most people, like me, depend on their phone camera as their only camera because we can't afford to have a hobby like buying $600 cameras (because we already have an expensive hobby called Android phones) nor do we have a bag or pocket to carry said camera. The Epic Touch camera was awesome. Great pictures in any light, barely any fuzz or loss of focus for zooming into pictures already taken. Great settings, 1080p video shooting (which, when it worked, was phenomenal).
3. The big, gorgeous screen. I don't care for you little finger people complaining about it. I'm a 25 year old man and the guy who drills holes into my bowling ball says I have the fingers of a skinny teenage girl and that giant screen was nowhere near "too much" for me. It was big, beautiful, you could see it in sunlight, took up less battery life (if you set it up properly) and was just all around wonderful. 4.5" should be the industry standard, not 4.3". It really does make a difference.
Cons agains the Epic Touch:
1. Touchwiz is f*cking ugly and useless. No cohesion or synergy in Touchwiz at all. No messaging widget, no Social Hub widget, the calender, mail, weather and clock widgets all look like they came from wildly different themed ROMs. Social Hub didn't work for the first 2 months of the phone's life, the iPhone-style dock and app drawer lent no imagination or originality (no wonder they're getting sued left and right) and it was wildly scaled back from the OG Galaxy S 2. They keyboard was ugly as all hell. Hated the Touchwiz. Even the lockscreen was useless and stupid. The overscroll glow was blue and the battery indicator was green...who designs **** like that? Don't get me started on the 4g "dozing" feature. If you don't use 4g for 10 seconds, it goes to sleep and it is a ***** to wake up. You gotta open up an app like facebook or twitter, then go to your web browser. Absurd.
2. No developer support. The guy who did CM7 over there was a 15 year old who stole phones from people (no, really, he'd borrow a phone or propose a trade and a moron would accept and then wouldn't get their stuff...he also ripped off some people who wanted to donate a t-mo sgs2 to a developer for cm7...asshole). The custom kernels are all the same features with a slightly themed CWM recovery. Nothing original and all the ROMs are more or less the same with maybe one unique feature. Calk's rom had an htc keyboard, unnamed rom had themed icons...nothing really special. Since our AOSP devs are felons and, frankly, code thieves, we're stuck with Touchwiz over there unless you like MIUI...everyone else = boned.
3. The feel of the phone. The battery door was plastic. Not the super thick, awesome plastic like the battery door to the 3vo, but like flimsy child's toy plastic. The kind that shatters when you drop it. In fact, the whole phone minus the screen felt cheap and plasticky. I used to complain about it before I bought a samsung, now I've owned one and I can say from experience. Yeah, they're going for sleek and light, but how sleek can you feel holding a phone that's made with the same quality of plastic as a Barbie doll? When I did buy a case, the damn thing was too weak to keep it's own battery door on when I removed the case. Seriously, don't drop this phone on thick carpet, it might not work again.
Now for the Evo 3D. Pros:
1. HTC Sense is, as usual, beautiful. The applications, like friend stream, work like they should, the widgets are all cohesive and look like they belong together. With HTC Skins you have a plethora of theming options, you can customize the lockscreen to suit your needs (and the lockring idea is freaking awesome, admit it). The keyboard is nice and it works. HTC Sense may be giant and bloated, but all the pieces fit together in a synergistic manner that makes the phone feel more complete and that's not only hard to do, but a huge plus for Sense over Touchwiz.
2. The dev support here is better. The ROMs are actually different from one another and not just the same base with a few unique tweaks. MeanROM looks and feels completely different from Myn Warm (either one of them). There's Sense 3.0, 3.5. There's AOSP builds (3 of them, last I counted. 2 CM7 and a CM9...none work quite right yet but they're getting there). There's Sense 4.0 alphas out. There's kernels with characteristics that are different from one another. It is possible to have a more unique experience with this phone than the Epic Touch because with the Epic Touch, there's simply not as many good developers as there are here.
**note** I know development around here has been slowing down lately. Hopefully that'll turn around once they release kernel source for the latest Sense build. Plus, and this is minor, you can change the splash screen on this phone. You can't on a samsung device.
3. It's very well built. It's got heft, so you can feel it in your pocket. It feels and looks like it could take a drop or two before you start to worry (my cases are in the mail as we speak ), the notification light actually works and blinks often enough that I know I have a text message. There's a dedicated camera button. The hardware, the chipset notwithstanding, could whip the hardware on a galaxy s 2's ass any day of the week.
And the cons:
1. HTC and releasing kernel source. Seriously, I've spent maybe 33% of the time I've been an Evo owner (4g and 3d) waiting for HTC to release kernel source so we could get some custom kernels on newer builds before the devs got bored and jumped to a nexus s or a galaxy nexus. Looks like that's what's happening here too. Hopefully there's some adventurous people when it is released so we have those awesome kernel options like before.
2. The chipset is obviously inferior to the exynos. I love the evo series, i love htc, but you can't deny that. exynos is beast and whatever is in this phone doesn't stack up. While the lag isn't terrible (not enough to affect daily usage), it's still there and noticeable, which is kind of a bummer for a dual core device. Additionally, anyone else notice that data goes to sleep when the phone does? My google music sounds like a bad cd player when it goes to sleep so I have to leave it awake until it buffers the whole song or the song literally skips. That's kinda lame.
3. The camera, while better than the OG Evo, is much weaker than the Epic Touch. A lot of fuzz in low light settings and it just doesn't look like as high quality as the Epic Touch. Don't get me started on the 3D. I have taken one picture and shot one video. It gave me a headache, no more 3D for me. I would've traded in 3D capacity for the Amaze 4g's camera sensors any day of the week.
Overall, I do like the 3vo better. Despite it's shortcomings, it feels like a more complete device than an Epic Touch. The UI matches itself, you can customize without rooting (and even more after rooting), there's a stronger dev section and a more active IRC chat. It feels better in the hand weight wise and is built better materials wise (I still miss my giant screen to play video games with). Dedicated camera button ftw. There's more working features and fewer bugs than Touchwiz (google Epic Touch LOS...and start laughing lol). Both devices will eventually have ICS, so it's not like you can hold that against either one. I just hope our CMs get done eventually (i don't care about the 3D, but the other stuff kinda matters).
Sorry if this has been done already...actually no, no I'm not. It was fun to write.
Nice write up . Each phone has cons and pros. I like the amount of roms and root option on the EVO 3D hate bloatware
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Good job, sir.
It's always refreshing to read reviews this far along into a phone's release, especially with two phones such as these. Reason being, there will always be those who purchased a phone on or around the release date, and may have been swayed by pre-release reviews or initial release reviews. Months (or in some cases, days) later, the inevitable hint of flip-flopdom or regret sinks in, and the decision to buy another phone off-contract sets in. Additionally, there are those who bought a phone off-contract and are currently in their upgrade period; users such as myself who are holding out as long as possible for an LTE release rather than burning the upgrade on an older Wimax phone, for example.
These mid-release reviews help to quench or fuel the desire to ditch the current phone and toy around w/ the competition. Phones that have been out 6+mo typically get left out of the review mix as writers tend to constantly focus on upcoming models...understandably so. But I'm willing to bet there are good number of folks who appreciate reviews such as these when the antsy feeling sets in that a ROM flash just won't cure. Thanks again for the write-up!
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This is why this place is degrading rapidly.
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enko420 said:
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And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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Lol recognized developer is a application u fill out to get. Seen a few good roms from folks that don't have the thing. Just cause they don't have the label doesn't mean the rom is bad some just don't have time to fill a application out others are just happy pumping roms out..
Some roms are sweet lol. Tho some phones don't have a lot of dev support due to root support and phone popularity ..
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And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
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Lol too funny
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fpineda101 said:
And that's why you're on Boost instead of Sprint
OP, nice job done! I agree with pretty much everything you said. I looked over the roms in that section just last week. There are some nice looking ones but none of the devs are "Recognized Developers".
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While there are far more Rec Devs for the Evo 3D, the point I was going for was that the ROMs here are more unique. MeanROM boats 3000 quadrant scores and high battery life, Myn's Warm boasts a beautiful theme with some improvement tweaks. There's Fresh ROM which (if my memory from the Evo 4g serves me right) is a stock ROM with nothing missing that's been lightly modded for a better experience. Then we have 2 CyanogenMod 7 ROMs (hopefully the bugs get fixed for those some day), a CyanogenMod 9 ROM (alpha), a Sense 4.0 preview, a couple stable Sense 3.5 Roms, MIUI, a couple of Sony Bravia/Xloud ROMs, etc etc.
For the Epic Touch, there's a CM7 I wouldn't trust to test (not even allowed on XDA), let alone use, there's MIUI but it's not complete (yet)...then you have a dozen or so ROMs that have almost exactly the same features but are themed slightly differently. Go look, they all have TSM Parts, Maddoggin's lockscreen Mod and/or an AIO mod done by crawrj. Then it's MAYBE one or two original tweaks or features (like calk's htc_ime keyboard mod). There's basically no difference between the ROMs besides the "light theming" so the experience is almost exactly the same between ROMs. I can't sacrifice battery life for more speed, they all have the same battery and speed tweaks. The last month I had the phone, I was using Team Nocturnal's Sony Bravia Port ROM, because it was the only one that was any different from the others.
/rant lol but yes, it is nice to have more "trustworthy" individuals devving for us here. I hope they stick around and release even more stuff once HTC catches up releasing the source for the kernel.
Sup college guy.
Agree on your rant. But still wanna get an e4gt.
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So I owned the Epic 4g Touch for about 6 months and then just last week traded down to the 3vo (along with some cash, to save up for the next Evo...gotta start saving now people!). The reason why, mostly, is because the dev section here is better and I miss Sense. AOSP fans, you can stop booing now.
So I've made some comparisons based on my 6 months with the Epic Touch and now my week with the Evo 3D (having it properly rooted, s-off and flashing some fun roms here and there).
Pros for the Epic Touch.
1. Beast chipset. Quadrant scores were amazing, but even for the benchmark haters the phone rarely lagged. Never lagged actually, unless you forced it to or you were using Google Voice (which will lag everything, I don't care what it is). Never a bump in performance in anything from Playstation Emulators to pinch to zoom. Watch review videos. Butter smooth.
2. Epic camera. Most people, like me, depend on their phone camera as their only camera because we can't afford to have a hobby like buying $600 cameras (because we already have an expensive hobby called Android phones) nor do we have a bag or pocket to carry said camera. The Epic Touch camera was awesome. Great pictures in any light, barely any fuzz or loss of focus for zooming into pictures already taken. Great settings, 1080p video shooting (which, when it worked, was phenomenal).
3. The big, gorgeous screen. I don't care for you little finger people complaining about it. I'm a 25 year old man and the guy who drills holes into my bowling ball says I have the fingers of a skinny teenage girl and that giant screen was nowhere near "too much" for me. It was big, beautiful, you could see it in sunlight, took up less battery life (if you set it up properly) and was just all around wonderful. 4.5" should be the industry standard, not 4.3". It really does make a difference.
Cons agains the Epic Touch:
1. Touchwiz is f*cking ugly and useless. No cohesion or synergy in Touchwiz at all. No messaging widget, no Social Hub widget, the calender, mail, weather and clock widgets all look like they came from wildly different themed ROMs. Social Hub didn't work for the first 2 months of the phone's life, the iPhone-style dock and app drawer lent no imagination or originality (no wonder they're getting sued left and right) and it was wildly scaled back from the OG Galaxy S 2. They keyboard was ugly as all hell. Hated the Touchwiz. Even the lockscreen was useless and stupid. The overscroll glow was blue and the battery indicator was green...who designs **** like that? Don't get me started on the 4g "dozing" feature. If you don't use 4g for 10 seconds, it goes to sleep and it is a ***** to wake up. You gotta open up an app like facebook or twitter, then go to your web browser. Absurd.
2. No developer support. The guy who did CM7 over there was a 15 year old who stole phones from people (no, really, he'd borrow a phone or propose a trade and a moron would accept and then wouldn't get their stuff...he also ripped off some people who wanted to donate a t-mo sgs2 to a developer for cm7...asshole). The custom kernels are all the same features with a slightly themed CWM recovery. Nothing original and all the ROMs are more or less the same with maybe one unique feature. Calk's rom had an htc keyboard, unnamed rom had themed icons...nothing really special. Since our AOSP devs are felons and, frankly, code thieves, we're stuck with Touchwiz over there unless you like MIUI...everyone else = boned.
3. The feel of the phone. The battery door was plastic. Not the super thick, awesome plastic like the battery door to the 3vo, but like flimsy child's toy plastic. The kind that shatters when you drop it. In fact, the whole phone minus the screen felt cheap and plasticky. I used to complain about it before I bought a samsung, now I've owned one and I can say from experience. Yeah, they're going for sleek and light, but how sleek can you feel holding a phone that's made with the same quality of plastic as a Barbie doll? When I did buy a case, the damn thing was too weak to keep it's own battery door on when I removed the case. Seriously, don't drop this phone on thick carpet, it might not work again.
Now for the Evo 3D. Pros:
1. HTC Sense is, as usual, beautiful. The applications, like friend stream, work like they should, the widgets are all cohesive and look like they belong together. With HTC Skins you have a plethora of theming options, you can customize the lockscreen to suit your needs (and the lockring idea is freaking awesome, admit it). The keyboard is nice and it works. HTC Sense may be giant and bloated, but all the pieces fit together in a synergistic manner that makes the phone feel more complete and that's not only hard to do, but a huge plus for Sense over Touchwiz.
2. The dev support here is better. The ROMs are actually different from one another and not just the same base with a few unique tweaks. MeanROM looks and feels completely different from Myn Warm (either one of them). There's Sense 3.0, 3.5. There's AOSP builds (3 of them, last I counted. 2 CM7 and a CM9...none work quite right yet but they're getting there). There's Sense 4.0 alphas out. There's kernels with characteristics that are different from one another. It is possible to have a more unique experience with this phone than the Epic Touch because with the Epic Touch, there's simply not as many good developers as there are here.
**note** I know development around here has been slowing down lately. Hopefully that'll turn around once they release kernel source for the latest Sense build. Plus, and this is minor, you can change the splash screen on this phone. You can't on a samsung device.
3. It's very well built. It's got heft, so you can feel it in your pocket. It feels and looks like it could take a drop or two before you start to worry (my cases are in the mail as we speak ), the notification light actually works and blinks often enough that I know I have a text message. There's a dedicated camera button. The hardware, the chipset notwithstanding, could whip the hardware on a galaxy s 2's ass any day of the week.
And the cons:
1. HTC and releasing kernel source. Seriously, I've spent maybe 33% of the time I've been an Evo owner (4g and 3d) waiting for HTC to release kernel source so we could get some custom kernels on newer builds before the devs got bored and jumped to a nexus s or a galaxy nexus. Looks like that's what's happening here too. Hopefully there's some adventurous people when it is released so we have those awesome kernel options like before.
2. The chipset is obviously inferior to the exynos. I love the evo series, i love htc, but you can't deny that. exynos is beast and whatever is in this phone doesn't stack up. While the lag isn't terrible (not enough to affect daily usage), it's still there and noticeable, which is kind of a bummer for a dual core device. Additionally, anyone else notice that data goes to sleep when the phone does? My google music sounds like a bad cd player when it goes to sleep so I have to leave it awake until it buffers the whole song or the song literally skips. That's kinda lame.
3. The camera, while better than the OG Evo, is much weaker than the Epic Touch. A lot of fuzz in low light settings and it just doesn't look like as high quality as the Epic Touch. Don't get me started on the 3D. I have taken one picture and shot one video. It gave me a headache, no more 3D for me. I would've traded in 3D capacity for the Amaze 4g's camera sensors any day of the week.
Overall, I do like the 3vo better. Despite it's shortcomings, it feels like a more complete device than an Epic Touch. The UI matches itself, you can customize without rooting (and even more after rooting), there's a stronger dev section and a more active IRC chat. It feels better in the hand weight wise and is built better materials wise (I still miss my giant screen to play video games with). Dedicated camera button ftw. There's more working features and fewer bugs than Touchwiz (google Epic Touch LOS...and start laughing lol). Both devices will eventually have ICS, so it's not like you can hold that against either one. I just hope our CMs get done eventually (i don't care about the 3D, but the other stuff kinda matters).
Sorry if this has been done already...actually no, no I'm not. It was fun to write.
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Cool story, bro
Nice article. I would however mention that the E4GT does get a decent amount of development, while not as much as the EVO 3D, it's still getting it. And even if Bubby made CM7, why's it hindering the E4GT development scores?
Thanks for sharing your experience. I always wonder what's it like on the SG2 camp.
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To fix your data turning off when you turn your screen off is to select 'Enable always-on mobile data' in Settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile Networks.
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eyeisdasteve said:
Sup college guy.
Agree on your rant. But still wanna get an e4gt.
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Hey dude! the guy I sold my e4gt to actually hates it. if you go to the documentation thread and find him, you might be able to get it back off of him (he's looking to sell it). Couldn't get used to it.
justwonder said:
Cool story, bro
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Winners post the pic IN the post, not as an attachment
dastin1015 said:
To fix your data turning off when you turn your screen off is to select 'Enable always-on mobile data' in Settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile Networks.
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Sweet thanks dude! That worked
Overstew said:
Nice article. I would however mention that the E4GT does get a decent amount of development, while not as much as the EVO 3D, it's still getting it. And even if Bubby made CM7, why's it hindering the E4GT development scores?
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Becuase Bubby didn't make CM7, about half a dozen people made CM7 and Bubby simply swiped their Git, made his own, compiled it and released it. Remember, it's not allowed on XDA for a reason Keep in mind I'm also an XDA Writer, and as such base my development scores on what's actually on XDA. Plus, I am not a fan of Rootzwiki. All the trolls go there and pretend like they weren't a part of the "XDA problem" they spend all day complaining about over there.
poopymonster said:
Thanks for sharing your experience. I always wonder what's it like on the SG2 camp.
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Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone...it's just a very... homogeneous atmosphere. A lot of the "same stuff" being re-released under a different name and theme. The phone is still very nice.
enko420 said:
Too big of a post. Lost interest.
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Too much 420= loss interest.
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Nice post , having both I would clearly say the epic is ahead of the 3d . Your right about the epic dev support not being as much as the 3d. IMO touchwiz isnt as bad as some people make it out to be . Its fast , clean , and I would prefer it right now over sense . Now that might change when sense 4.0 comes out ,but sense is just too slow . Build quality is superb on the epic, the 3d has a nice build also but IMO the epic wins that catigorty. Light isn't always cheap, Both are good phones!!!
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Nice write up
What about the screen on the E3D? You haven't commented either way, but couldn't praise the Samsung's screen enough.
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Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
ckoadiyn said:
I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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