Found this on reddit/r/Android, might be pretty cool to try, and super cheap as well!
Basically you take any pen, stick a piece of paper in the tip, and wrap it with some anti electrostatic discharge plastic of sorts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&list=FL6aHtJ-9UTntwc8r_OO_TcQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
foboi1122 said:
Found this on reddit/r/Android, might be pretty cool to try, and super cheap as well!
Basically you take any pen, stick a piece of paper in the tip, and wrap it with some anti electrostatic discharge plastic of sorts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&list=FL6aHtJ-9UTntwc8r_OO_TcQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
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Seen it and tried it. Pretty lame, but that just may be me. The thing is, the digitiser on the Prime IS a piece of junk, sure the chip is great, but the actual capacitive layer is absolute junk.
I love my Prime, but my brother's iPad2 makes the Prime's touchscreen look like Fisher Price "my first tablet"
I have touchscreentune installed, which makes the screen actually usable, but I will look long and hard at specs when I eventually upgrade.
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but the actual capacitive layer is absolute junk.
I love my Prime, but my brother's iPad2 makes the Prime's touchscreen look like Fisher Price "my first tablet"
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any data to back that up? or just your opinion?
Of course not, he just want's to jump on the band wagon
I have had my prime now for 2 weeks. This is after having borrowed a friends prime for nearly a month and a half. I have used both an iPad, and iPad 2, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the Eee Pad Slider with windows 7... The digitizer on this works fine. It is no different than anything else save for it's processor can actually handle the input speed and response of 10 separate data points, and the fact that he fails to address that the primes digitizer will handle all 10 touch points without a slowdown in data processing tells you he has no idea what he is talking about. Stop propagating bull**** to make you seem "cool" like the whiny *****es who's "GPS doesn't work" oh my god! Who cares? really. I get a 5 Sat lock on GPS test and so far, my random reboots stopped after .15. I had a single issue with HDMI out, then I swapped the cable and moved it to a different input on my TV (i.e. not the one that has been pulled on by my kids, and not the micro cable that came with the atrix) Seriously. I know some have had issues, but I have 7 people that I work with who have primes, both C1 and C2, 3 more that I talk to in my old unit who bought them as well, biggest complaint? Reboots before .15 ... I think it was a quad core issue with ICS, it wasn't ready and Asus rushed it. Stop complaining, and realize you are just regretful you spent 5 to 600 you didn't have at the time and now you want your money back.
You are absolutly right IF .........
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I have had my prime now for 2 weeks. This is after having borrowed a friends prime for nearly a month and a half. I have used both an iPad, and iPad 2, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the Eee Pad Slider with windows 7... The digitizer on this works fine. It is no different than anything else save for it's processor can actually handle the input speed and response of 10 separate data points, and the fact that he fails to address that the primes digitizer will handle all 10 touch points without a slowdown in data processing tells you he has no idea what he is talking about. Stop propagating bull**** to make you seem "cool" like the whiny *****es who's "GPS doesn't work" oh my god! Who cares? really. I get a 5 Sat lock on GPS test and so far, my random reboots stopped after .15. I had a single issue with HDMI out, then I swapped the cable and moved it to a different input on my TV (i.e. not the one that has been pulled on by my kids, and not the micro cable that came with the atrix) Seriously. I know some have had issues, but I have 7 people that I work with who have primes, both C1 and C2, 3 more that I talk to in my old unit who bought them as well, biggest complaint? Reboots before .15 ... I think it was a quad core issue with ICS, it wasn't ready and Asus rushed it. Stop complaining, and realize you are just regretful you spent 5 to 600 you didn't have at the time and now you want your money back.
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You are absolutly right IF ............. you can post a picture of a straight diagonal line (45 degrees) drawn on the prime
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You are absolutly right IF ............. you can send me a picture of a straight diagonal line (45 degrees) drawn on the prime
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Would you be mad fi I used eskitch with bline straightening just kidding... I will post one inthe morning... im 7 boddingtons deep and enjoying my surf time haha
loveableterrorepic4g said:
I have had my prime now for 2 weeks. This is after having borrowed a friends prime for nearly a month and a half. I have used both an iPad, and iPad 2, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the Eee Pad Slider with windows 7... The digitizer on this works fine. It is no different than anything else save for it's processor can actually handle the input speed and response of 10 separate data points, and the fact that he fails to address that the primes digitizer will handle all 10 touch points without a slowdown in data processing tells you he has no idea what he is talking about. Stop propagating bull**** to make you seem "cool" like the whiny *****es who's "GPS doesn't work" oh my god! Who cares? really. I get a 5 Sat lock on GPS test and so far, my random reboots stopped after .15. I had a single issue with HDMI out, then I swapped the cable and moved it to a different input on my TV (i.e. not the one that has been pulled on by my kids, and not the micro cable that came with the atrix) Seriously. I know some have had issues, but I have 7 people that I work with who have primes, both C1 and C2, 3 more that I talk to in my old unit who bought them as well, biggest complaint? Reboots before .15 ... I think it was a quad core issue with ICS, it wasn't ready and Asus rushed it. Stop complaining, and realize you are just regretful you spent 5 to 600 you didn't have at the time and now you want your money back.
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U mad Bro?
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U mad Bro?
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nope my bro just got back from Afghanistan, haven't seen him sinceigtt out aftert i was ther, He is passed out after a fewpints, now imn getikng my XDA fix ha
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Stop propagating bull**** to make you seem "cool"
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I could say the very same to you. Everyone knows that the Primes digitiser is rubbish. You merely have to write something on it without using touchscreetune to see how awful it is.
I also have no issue with the money spent on my Prime as I didn't pay a penny for it, it was a gift, so get your facts straight before throwing around wild accusations of me being a "whiny *****" as you so eloquently put it.
loveableterrorepic4g said:
Would you be mad fi I used eskitch with bline straightening just kidding... I will post one inthe morning... im 7 boddingtons deep and enjoying my surf time haha
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How about the picture of a straight diagonal line???
OR
An apology
;-)
Will have to try that line out mostly use it as my Everyday web surfing, ebook , college and pr0n (until GF comes and I hit the home key fast)
Have no scratches on it and fully covered in protectors on screen and back so I consider it on loan and treat it carefully till the tf 700 comes out.
Anyway I can't even draw a straight diagonal line on paper... so my paper is broken too
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Will have to try that line out mostly use it as my Everyday web surfing, ebook , college and pr0n (until GF comes and I hit the home key fast)
Have no scratches on it and fully covered in protectors on screen and back so I consider it on loan and treat it carefully till the tf 700 comes out.
Anyway I can't even draw a straight diagonal line on paper... so my paper is broken too
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then better cut down on the drinking
:-D
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then better cut down on the drinking
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Cut down on drinking?? That's alcohol abuse!
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Really...you're gonna compare a tfp to a pos ipad 2? I have an ipad 2 for my 4 year old and he says "its for babies."
I'm not really seeing this "can't draw a diagonal line" issue either. Firstly, I can say that I have never EVER had the need to draw a straight diagonal line. I'm not sure if you have some sort of odd diagonal line art or something.
But the inquisitive side of me took hold and I opened up supernote so I could make an annotation of a diagonal line. I drew a straight diagonal line. Which any imperfection in the diagonal line was 100% my fault as I said before, this was my first time even attempting to draw a diagonal line. So *scratches head* this argument is only valid if 1. You're beneath the age of 4 and need an ipad or 2. You have a fettish for diagonal lines. But I don't get it nor do I see a difference.
Oh and btw I typed this out on my tfp keyboard. So I looked at my son and wondered why the ipad doesn't come with a keyboard dock....then i remembered
Toddlers can't type
There was an entire thread about how crappy the Prime's touch screen is on the Apps forum. You actually need a separate app, Touchscreen Tune (and be rooted) to use a capacitive stylus for anything other than drawing huge letters. If you can compare the Prime (not gonna start a flame war by mentioning the ipad), just compare it with the original Transformer. I have both and the original Transformer is so, so much better for writing.
Nobody cares that it can track 10 fingers at once. We do care that I can't write smaller than 1 inch letters, or can't draw diagonal lines without it being wavy. Maybe you don't need to draw diagonal lines but as engineers, math majors, people who like to write in chinese or japanese, etc etc, all need straight diagonal lines.
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Seen it and tried it. Pretty lame, but that just may be me. The thing is, the digitiser on the Prime IS a piece of junk, sure the chip is great, but the actual capacitive layer is absolute junk.
I love my Prime, but my brother's iPad2 makes the Prime's touchscreen look like Fisher Price "my first tablet"
I have touchscreentune installed, which makes the screen actually usable, but I will look long and hard at specs when I eventually upgrade.
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Maybe you got a bad one
Made this with my finger since I have no stylus available.
No enhancements here, just an Onscreen Screen protector:
The red lines have been drawn with the line tool, the black ones free hand.
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Made this with my finger since I have no stylus available.
No enhancements here, just an Onscreen Screen protector:
The red lines have been drawn with the line tool, the black ones free hand.
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Duhhh
The line created with the line tool has nothing to do with the digitizer. You just input a starting point and an end point and the prime calculates the image to show.
If you look at the freehand lines you see the wave patern.
Doesn't matter if you use a stylus or not. Actually with a stylus it gets worse.
Just take a book as a ruler and put it on the screen at 45 degrees. Then draw a line along the book (finger or stylus).
Wobbly lines ;-)
dingdonggggg said:
Duhhh
The line created with the line tool has nothing to do with the digitizer. You just input a starting point and an end point and the prime calculates the image to show.
If you look at the freehand lines you see the wave patern.
Doesn't matter if you use a stylus or not. Actually with a stylus it gets worse.
Just take a book as a ruler and put it on the screen at 45 degrees. Then draw a line along the book (finger or stylus).
Wobbly lines ;-)
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Mine is wobbly because i used my free hand to draw. But it seemed quite ok for freehand drawing because it looks like how i draw lines on paper too.
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I've been researching Tablets and i must be able to write notes with ease. I've read the best stylus is the Jot Pro which i've gone and purchased. I've also read that writing with a active digitizer is the best for taking hand notes.
i've yet to read about "active digitizer" in any of the specs for the TP so i was wondering how it would compair to a active digitizer screen? Also to what degree would it be better or worse?
MooreW said:
I've been researching Tablets and i must be able to write notes with ease. I've read the best stylus is the Jot Pro which i've gone and purchased. I've also read that writing with a active digitizer is the best for taking hand notes.
i've yet to read about "active digitizer" in any of the specs for the TP so i was wondering how it would compair to a active digitizer screen? Also to what degree would it be better or worse?
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Trust me, if you put conductive grease in your jot ball, you won't see any difference between using that on the TF or TFP and a tablet with digitizer.
Active digitizer has pressure sensitivity. Although it can be... less precise than Adonit (because some active digitizers are innacurate when holded on different angles).
Unfortunetaly Transformer doesn't have one. Adonit was supposed to show active digitizer for all tablets on CES. I wonder what they will make.
Thanks. I ask because i was watching a video smackdown between the TFP vs. Motorola Droid XYBoard and she specifically made a point that Active Digitizer screens are better for note taking.
She did not mention how much better these screens are and with all the people here saying the Jot Pro is amazing with the TFP, it can't be that much better.
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Thanks. I ask because i was watching a video smackdown between the TFP vs. Motorola Droid XYBoard and she specifically made a point that Active Digitizer screens are better for note taking.
She did not mention how much better these screens are and with all the people here saying the Jot Pro is amazing with the TFP, it can't be that much better.
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I know what video you're talking about. Reviewers are not gods. They know a lot of official stuff, but they don't know **** about real life stuff. Most reviewers still say the ipad2 is much much much better than the tf. The tf has been out for how long? Most reviewers still criticize the tf keyboard for not being able to disable the touchpad. Hint, its a shortkey on top somewhere.
Reviewers are good at giving you first impressions. But they suck at telling you about real life applications.
If you'd rather put your trust in reviewers, then you should get a motor xyboard. I'm telling you from real life experience. You won't notice a difference.
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I know what video you're talking about. Reviewers are not gods. They know a lot of official stuff, but they don't know **** about real life stuff. Most reviewers still say the ipad2 is much much much better than the tf. The tf has been out for how long? Most reviewers still criticize the tf keyboard for not being able to disable the touchpad. Hint, its a shortkey on top somewhere.
Reviewers are good at giving you first impressions. But they suck at telling you about real life applications.
If you'd rather put your trust in reviewers, then you should get a motor xyboard. I'm telling you from real life experience. You won't notice a difference.
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Wonderful. I really didn't read to much into it. I watch/read to get a good overview per say. As someone with zero experience with tablets that is why i come here, to the people with them, to ask these questions not answered in these reviews.
Thanks again
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Wonderful. I really didn't read to much into it. I watch/read to get a good overview per say. As someone with zero experience with tablets that is why i come here, to the people with them, to ask these questions not answered in these reviews.
Thanks again
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Yeah, people tend to trust those with authority these days. Somewhere along the line, people lost their trust in real life experience.
Take my g/f's dad, for example. His win7 computer stopped animating the windows when he move them around. It bothered him so much that he called in a geek squad guy. The geek squad guy said there was nothing he could do but reinstall win7 OS. Wanted to charge him $200 for it. My g/f and I happened to walk in at the time. My g/f told her dad to let me try fixing it. He hesitated (because I wasn't a geek squad... and geek squad knows everything, right?), and said sure why not. It took me a whole 2 minutes to fix his problem. All I did was went into the windows animation settings and reset the damn thing.
Think about it. He came this close to paying $200 for a geek squad know-it-all to re-install windows for a settings problem.
To this day, I still write to reviewers every time they got something wrong. What's disappointing is after I've written my lengthy correction, they still get it wrong in their next review. The TF keyboard is a perfect example. Back in May, reviewers were all criticizing the TF keyboard for not having the option to disable the touchpad. I promptly wrote to every one of them informing them of the 4th button from the left top row. The same reviewers are now *****ing about the prime keyboard not having the option to disable the touchpad. It seems like these guys picked up the TF, xoom, or whatever, used it for a whole 5 minutes, and then declare themselves experts of all things tablets. It's effing annoying as hell reading their reviews. They get so many things wrong!
In addition, most of the tech industry have been taken over by apple fanboys. Take a look at the following article written just a few days ago.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/01/ces-tablets-redemption/all/1
Notice that the transformer was not mentioned at all in that article. Instead, the writer pointed to all the failed tablets (xoom, touchpad, etc.) declaring them to be the only examples of non-ipad tablets. As a matter of fact, even as the prime is being rolled out, reviewers continue to ignore the asus TF/TFP. Despite the fact that the TF is now the most successful android tablet, reviewers still want to pretend like it doesn't exist and that the game really is about between the ipad2 and the xoom.
But I guess I'm just a nobody and they are reviewers so they must know everything there is to know about these devices.
Its called ignorance
So about taking notes with a pen like the JotPro, is it cool? I mean would you guys go into a semi important meeting with just the prime and no paper?
And is there a note taking app that lets you rest your hand on the tablet in any way while writing (some dedicated space would be fine i guess)?
->nevermind this, just found that in another thread:
(5) Writepad stylus - note taking app with palm rejection, meaning you can rest your hand on the screen and still be able to write. Can save your notes as pdf docs.
Had the jot pro, disliked it enough that I returned it this morning. Half of the time it missed the lines I was writing. I switched to a targus and it works much better. I think the JOt Pro has such a small surface that it just lost connectivity with the screen. I tested it on a screen with no protection on it btw. It probably would have been worse with a screen protector.
I have not found a note taking app that does good with hand rejection. I just use the hover above method.
That being said, I do only take the Prime to meetings, no paper, and take notes all the time. Works great.
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Trust me, if you put conductive grease in your jot ball, you won't see any difference between using that on the TF or TFP and a tablet with digitizer.
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I Googled "conductive grease" and found around 20 different options on the first page of websites plus the dude at bestbuy never herd of it. If you could give me a link to a product to look for that would be fantastic. By chance do you have a screen protector on your tablet?
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I Googled "conductive grease" and found around 20 different options on the first page of websites plus the dude at bestbuy never herd of it. If you could give me a link to a product to look for that would be fantastic. By chance do you have a screen protector on your tablet?
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(1) I just talked to the entire tablet department of bestbuy and none of them knew the tegra 3 had a 5th core.
(2) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BODU66/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
(3) I don't use a screen protector. Been using it since may. Not a single scratch on my screen. And I don't even have a sleeve for it.
Can anyone enlighten me on the performance of the screen digitizer.
I have been testing several note taking applications on my TFP. Although I have lousy handwriting the TFP makes it even worse. At first I blamed myself and the rather clumsy big tipped stylus and to improve the results I downloaded Touchscreen Tuner. A nice application but minimal improvement.
Then I also noticed it is impossible to draw accurate on the TFP.
A straight horizontal or vertical line is possible but when you try to draw a straight diagonal line it becomes a wave line. Now I really got worried. Maybe my drinking habits had given me this unsteady hand. So I got out a ruler and drew a diagonal line along it. I was relieved that I could continue drinking but what a shock to see the result. Again the diagonal line turned out as a wave line. (See the screen shot)
It turns out the grid of the digitizer is much too widely spaced. I estimate the distance between grid points at about 5 millimeters. And apparently the algorithm to interpolate between the grid points is so insufficient that a contact on the digitizer between two grid points is regarded as a contact with the nearest grid point. The algorithm doesn’t calculate a point in between.
Another way to see this is when you pick up an icon on the home screen and slowly drag it diagonally across the screen. It will not follow your finger or stylus smoothly but it will sway from left to right and stay behind a bit and then catch up again.
A big plus for the TFP for me was the possibility to accurately draw and take notes while working in the field.
As it is advertized and showed by Asus in promotional videos.
That is also what the Notes application was designed for.
Again I am afraid that Asus has (next to GPS, Wifi/BT issues, performance and screen faults) promised us to much goodies to be true.
Does anyone have a solution to this shortcoming or maybe can test if they can reproduce my findings. Maybe it is a malfunction in my TFP.
Please let me know your solutions or findings.
By the way. I also tested a HTC Sensation, a HTC HD and an Ipad 2. On these devices it is perfectly possible to draw a perfectly straight diagonal line.
Seems the behavior is the same on my TFP, except that I tried drawing the diagonal with my finger and it came out a lot straighter than your screenshot. Not nearly as straight as horizontal and vertical lines though, but less waves that what you're showing.
I used a Belkin stylus.
To draw the line I used the edge of a magazin.
I tried to apply equal presure and speed while drawing.
The issue is best seen in a diagonal line under 45 degrees.
There is an app on the market to tune the touchscreen for this and Galaxy Tab, it helps a ton. Touchscreen Tune I think its called.
It is $5 though but with the app, good freewriting application and a decent pen, handwriting is a lot easier.
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Seems the behavior is the same on my TFP, except that I tried drawing the diagonal with my finger and it came out a lot straighter than your screenshot. Not nearly as straight as horizontal and vertical lines though, but less waves that what you're showing.
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It largely depends on the speed you draw it. If you go really fast its pretty straight. Go really slow and its wavy as hell
Maybe I am drunk....
The finer the stylus the wavier the line. Used my finger, no waves.
Use the application mentioned above....
I had a jot pro with a similar problem, except my writing varied greatly based on pressure. If I pressed down hard enough it would write like you would expect, but otherwise it did some crazy stuff. Might just be that particular stylus though
oblomov said:
There is an app on the market to tune the touchscreen for this and Galaxy Tab, it helps a ton. Touchscreen Tune I think its called.
It is $5 though but with the app, good freewriting application and a decent pen, handwriting is a lot easier.
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Use the application mentioned above....
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redandblack1287 said:
I had a jot pro with a similar problem, except my writing varied greatly based on pressure. If I pressed down hard enough it would write like you would expect, but otherwise it did some crazy stuff. Might just be that particular stylus though
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I've got the same experience with the Wacom Bamboo Stylus.
I've had no trouble writing in supernote or 7notes (the keyboard part), ditto for Sketchbook Pro except I naturally draw crappy. My handwriting with the Jot is fine though.
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Spidey01 said:
I've had no trouble writing in supernote or 7notes (the keyboard part), ditto for Sketchbook Pro except I naturally draw crappy. My handwriting with the Jot is fine though.
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I am not asking if people have proper handwriting.
I think the grid spacing is to wide.
But maybe it's my Prime.
Can you post a screenshot of a perfect diagonal line made in Supernote.
This is a well known and well documented issue. It is present on loads of devices. There have been a few threads about this already.
Here is an image from a test that was done quite some time ago.
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I realize that it's an old picture and really this should have been eliminated by now, but unfortunately it is what it is.
I see what you mean in supernote, tried uploading both an export from supernote and Sketchbook Pro but Tapatalk isn't quite working for it :/
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I have the same issue and have logged a call with Asus support. I suggest anyone who has this issue also does the same.
I have two primes and they both do this. 32gb champagne gold, both C series serial numbers.
Wow, a bunch of newbies giving advice to each other. Here's what my regular notes look like. Tf101 with adonit jot. Tf101 and 201 have same screen.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38673648/pictures/writepad_stylus_sample.pdf
If you don't know how to adapt, then don't try.
That was rude.
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You are wrong on this. Touchscreen definitely has different chip in TF201 (Atmel)!
Also isn't your handwriting done while zoomed in?
So obviously you don't have a TF201.
And obviously the hardware (and also the screen) is totally different.
But if you are willing to help us out and explain to us what we are doing wrong we would be gratefull.
If not then i think you should get back to the TF101 forum.
It is of no use posting an image of what you can do on your TF101.
I can post multiple pictures of the complicated things I can do with pen and papier.
;-)
But that is not the reason why we bought a TF201.
I hope there is someone out there that can help.
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So obviously you don't have a TF201.
And obviously the hardware (and also the screen) is totally different.
But if you are willing to help us out and explain to us what we are doing wrong we would be gratefull.
If not then i think you should get back to the TF101 forum.
It is of no use posting an image of what you can do on your TF101.
I can post multiple pictures of the complicated things I can do with pen and papier.
;-)
But that is not the reason why we bought a TF201.
I hope there is someone out there that can help.
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What you are doing wrong is you're not adapting. You're trying to use it like pen and paper. When the tf101 first came out, there were many whiners who came to FDA whining that the tf doesn't feel like a laptop.
Imagine people trying to use pen and paper like chisel and hammer on stones. Or imagine people trying to use the desktop like a typewriter.
The jot on tf doesn't feel like pen on paper. Why? Because its not pen on paper. Adapt or move on. Imagine flying an airplane like driving a car. Complain about that.
Added by edit.
The point I was trying to make is this. Yeah, I zoom in when I write. So? It gives me the freedom to draw out more details than I can with pen on paper. I can also change colors at will. Don't have to carry around all the notebooks and stuff. It took me may be 2 note taking sessions to get use to it. I don't even think about it anymore. And I can just print out the pdf of my notes whenever I want.
Stop trying to use this like pen and paper. Zoom in, do whatever you need to to adapt. Our ancestors adapted from chisel and hammer to pen and paper. And now you're trying to use a stylus on tablet like pen and paper? Why not complain that a car doesn't ride like a horse? Or a train doesn't ride like a horse pulled ferry?
Do what you need to to adapt. If you can't adapt, move on. No need to get stressed out by it.
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What you are doing wrong is you're not adapting. You're trying to use it like pen and paper. When the tf101 first came out, there were many whiners who came to FDA whining that the tf doesn't feel like a laptop.
Imagine people trying to use pen and paper like chisel and hammer on stones. Or imagine people trying to use the desktop like a typewriter.
The jot on tf doesn't feel like pen on paper. Why? Because its not pen on paper. Adapt or move on. Imagine flying an airplane like driving a car. Complain about that.
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The point I was trying to make is this. Yeah, I zoom in when I write. So? It gives me the freedom to draw out more details than I can with pen on paper. I can also change colors at will. Don't have to carry around all the notebooks and stuff. It took me may be 2 note taking sessions to get use to it. I don't even think about it anymore. And I can just print out the pdf of my notes whenever I want.
Stop trying to use this like pen and paper. Zoom in, do whatever you need to to adapt. Our ancestors adapted from chisel and hammer to pen and paper. And now you're trying to use a stylus on tablet like pen and paper? Why not complain that a car doesn't ride like a horse? Or a train doesn't ride like a horse pulled ferry?
Do what you need to to adapt. If you can't adapt, move on. No need to get stressed out by it.
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Your notes look good, would you mind giving some tips or maybe starting another thread with some tips on how to take notes using a stylus and what not. For example, are you writing in portrait mode or landscape? It looks like portrait but I don't know of that's due to formatting. Any tips would be appreciated. I'd like to be able to use mine for notes on occasion even though my livescribe pen handles notes just fine.
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I don't know if ASUS is listening, or they fixed problems that have been plaguing early adopters.
But I unboxed today my new Transformer Prime Champagne Gold 32GB model. Inspected the box and the box had a few scratches on it but I'm not surprised. I open it up, and there is a beautiful piece of machinery sitting right in front of me. First thing I notice is the sticker in the bottom right. I don't know if this was really needed but the sticker changed. It had new icons, for the Tegra 3 promo etc.
Second thing I did was inspect if for any scratches. And happy to report there are none! Every Transformer Prime I got into the office had the slightest of scratches somewhere on it. Well, none of this one. Phew!
Third, I take the plastic of the Prime, and try to turn it on. Not surprised, it came with little power, and had enough to tell me to connect to the charger. After flipping though the manuals to get to the charger, I noticed the manual was updated to reflect Ice Cream Sandwich OS. Sweet!
Fourthly, I notice the power button is slightly easier to press. It isn't bigger, but it defiantly didn't take as much force as my other Prime did.
Fifth, since the Prime was nearly dead, I went to go grab for the charger. I then noticed the cleaning cloth. ASUS took the cleaning cloth and x2 the size. There is also a new cardboard image the shows the Prime WITH a keyboard dock, and how to clean the screen, and back of the Prime. So thats new.
And finally, it came with Ice Cream Sandwich on board, with the latest update OTA that was released yesterday (today?). Does that mean new models are finally shipping with Ice Cream Sandwich and issues fixed? I hope so.
Now the Prime is thrown on its charger for its first charge, and here is a screenshot to show its a C1. I tested my Prime with a bluetooth headset and never lost Wifi, or dropped any speed. I hope to have screenshots later after the Primes very first charge has completed.
Thought I update all of you, THERE ARE GOOD PRIMES COMING! DON'T BE WORRIED WHEN PURCHASING! My company made the right decision to purchase Transformer Primes for app development and I hope you make the great jump.
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EDIT: These were ordered from Amazon last week. I recommend ordering from Amazon, since the new models seem to be arriving in that location. Others may have too, but this the first I have ever seen this.
Today was my last return day for mine at BB. They are sold out & not selling any due to so many returns at the moment. I checked my local Staples online for stock for the hell of it. It said they had some in stock!
I quickly called & the guy checked and said they just a few in today. He held one for me & i ran to BB returned & took my money over to Staples.
I also got a C1 model & seems to be performing alot better. Wifi seems to be very good so far. I was only getting 2-3mbps on my living room. With my C1 i am getting upwards of 11-12. I am a happy camper right now!
Glad to hear the good news. Be Warned though. OTHERS will come n claim you're lying. They'll try to make you feel you not testing it right..lol. they'll try to make you show proof... you are in an Elite club now. Welcome! We've been waiting for you lol
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Today was my last return day for mine at BB. They are sold out & not selling any due to so many returns at the moment. I checked my local Staples online for stock for the hell of it. It said they had some in stock!
I quickly called & the guy checked and said they just a few in today. He held one for me & i ran to BB returned & took my money over to Staples.
I also got a C1 model & seems to be performing alot better. Wifi seems to be very good so far. I was only getting 2-3mbps on my living room. With my C1 i am getting upwards of 11-12. I am a happy camper right now!
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They changed something, and thank god it was for the good!
Seems like nothing you listed it really worthy or earth shattering of a change to make the claim "THERE ARE GOOD PRIMES COMING!"
The things your "wowed" by hardly matter.. a bigger cleaner? ICS in a manual? ICS preloaded? none of this is... well, not that big of a deal
Nothing you said talks about the issues that plague people like ad hoc, gps, wifi, etc.. you hit on real, real low level surface things.
When they start shipping TF201 with a modified plastic strip back cover, youll see me pulling out my credit card and buying another prime and testing her out once again.
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Seems like nothing you listed it really worthy or earth shattering of a change to make the claim "THERE ARE GOOD PRIMES COMING!"
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Especially since s/he hasn't even turned it on yet. Well, at the least the cleaning cloth is twice the size!
its a sad sad situation...
I bought mine and every thing is perfect except for the wifi..my connection speed is of 5mbps and i need to be at 1 feet from the modem for it to be usable also cant return it to BB simply becouse im very far from where i bought it so thanks asus! do something nice with my 703.60 dollars now i cant even sell it.
thanks a lot.
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Seems like nothing you listed it really worthy or earth shattering of a change to make the claim "THERE ARE GOOD PRIMES COMING!"
The things your "wowed" by hardly matter.. a bigger cleaner? ICS in a manual? ICS preloaded? none of this is... well, not that big of a deal
Nothing you said talks about the issues that plague people like ad hoc, gps, wifi, etc.. you hit on real, real low level surface things.
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He's simply trying to prove that there are newer, improved Primes coming because the newer ones are packaged differently. Obviously if he had gotten one of the "defective" ones, it would have come packaged exactly the same. But now he got a different one and it seems to be a little better. Doesn't mean it's COMPLETELY OMG AMAZING SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME, but it's better so far.
Now to return to pooping on his party.
I am definitely going to take mine back this was wifi in living room by router!!!!
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Lock-N-Load said:
Seems like nothing you listed it really worthy or earth shattering of a change to make the claim "THERE ARE GOOD PRIMES COMING!"
The things your "wowed" by hardly matter.. a bigger cleaner? ICS in a manual? ICS preloaded? none of this is... well, not that big of a deal
Nothing you said talks about the issues that plague people like ad hoc, gps, wifi, etc.. you hit on real, real low level surface things.
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Especially since s/he hasn't even turned it on yet. Well, at the least the cleaning cloth is twice the size!
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Ah y'all funny. Always making me laugh. Let he/she enjoy his/her prime..lol. I want the x2 cleaning cloth
A pig in a new dress is still the same pig!
I love the cleaning cloth. I would take a x2 cleaning cloth. Nothing cleans the glass as good.
Hahaha at the cleaning cloth. I kept mine from the one i returned and have one from the keyboard dock. So i have 3 total. I spread them around as i hate smudges on my primes glass! Haha.
i received my TFP from amazon on 01/27. it's also a C1, but didn't come as the OP described and with honeycomb still installed.
Doesn't C1 simply mean produced in Jan 2012? Many Primes have been delivered as C1 and did not have the changes the OP posted, so C1 does not say a lot...
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Fifth, since the Prime was nearly dead, I went to go grab for the charger. I then noticed the cleaning cloth. ASUS took the cleaning cloth and x2 the size.
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It looks like we have nonbelievers.. as the two above posters have c1.
Can you take a pics of the x2 cleaning cloth and post them?
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It looks like we have nonbelievers.. as the two above posters have c1.
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No, I'm not a non-believer, I'm only saying a serial number starting with C1 does not identify the new prime. I'm actually curious to see what else has changed (less bleeding, less dead pixels, better WIFI?) - but most of that can only be evaluated when a lot of people get those new primes.
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No, I'm not a non-believer, I'm only saying a serial number starting with C1 does not identify the new prime. I'm actually curious to see what else has changed (less bleeding, less dead pixels, better WIFI?) - but most of that can only be evaluated when a lot of people get those new primes.
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Ok maybe the OP forgot to add the following Alpha-numeric that follows C1 to may specify the new primes. But wouldn't you still like to see a picture of the 2X cleaning cloth?
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Ok maybe the OP forgot to add the following Alpha-numeric that follows C1 to may specify the new primes. But wouldn't you still like to see a picture of the 2X cleaning cloth?
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Of course! But please, with the original as a reference!
Okay- I've been pretty into android for awhile- have a nexus one and LOVE it- but have an iPad 2 and like it quite a bit. I prefer android to iOS5, and have a sudden windfall of about 800 bucks, and am looking at updating to a new tablet.
I was pretty dead set on the Transformer Prime- from its reviews it looked breathtaking- but then I decided to check XDA- and- wow. Problems everywhere, wifi dead, dead pixels... wow.
So- now I'm unsure. I know the HD will fix a lot of the problems- but there is always the possibility it'll be laggy with the higher resolution- plus I cant STAND dead pixels. And, as I use my tablet full-time- that would not be ok.
Is this all overblown? Should I get the HD when it comes out? Honestly, really not trying to troll, but the fruity tablet has no problems, and this one appears to have a whole bucket of them.
Can a user who wants a tablet to use full time, with no dead pixels, use the prime or the prime HD?
Thanks!
My Prime has only one flaw: the GPS. Other than that, I have no light bleeding, no dead pixels, the wi-fi works well, etc.
You may want to read the following article to get some perspective:
edit: Apparently I am too new on this forum to provide you a link. Do a Google search for "cnet putting the transformer prime in perspective" and you'll get the link to the article.
In the end, I would suggest that if you really want the Prime, go ahead and buy one from a vendor with a good return policy. If you end up not liking it, simply return it.
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Okay- I've been pretty into android for awhile- have a nexus one and LOVE it- but have an iPad 2 and like it quite a bit. I prefer android to iOS5, and have a sudden windfall of about 800 bucks, and am looking at updating to a new tablet.
I was pretty dead set on the Transformer Prime- from its reviews it looked breathtaking- but then I decided to check XDA- and- wow. Problems everywhere, wifi dead, dead pixels... wow.
So- now I'm unsure. I know the HD will fix a lot of the problems- but there is always the possibility it'll be laggy with the higher resolution- plus I cant STAND dead pixels. And, as I use my tablet full-time- that would not be ok.
Is this all overblown? Should I get the HD when it comes out? Honestly, really not trying to troll, but the fruity tablet has no problems, and this one appears to have a whole bucket of them.
Can a user who wants a tablet to use full time, with no dead pixels, use the prime or the prime HD?
Thanks!
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Unfortunately it is plagued with issues. What proves this is the many people that have had multiple tablets all with the same problems. I've had three alone myself, all displaying BT/Wifi issues.
I dont use GPS at all- Ha- one reply telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, one exactly what Im dreading. I really dont know what to think.
I love mine. (Yes I have an iPad 2 to compare it to). Only issue is GPS. It works but not consistently. Other than that its perfect. Wifi is the same if not better than my Droid x. And can't ask for a nicer screen, especially for outside
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I suppose my biggest worry is screen issues- whats the chance I can get a perfect screen? I mean- does anyone have a flawless screen?
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I suppose my biggest worry is screen issues- whats the chance I can get a perfect screen? I mean- does anyone have a flawless screen?
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I'm an N of 1 but my Amazon.com Prime was riddled with issues. Most notably several groupings of bright white pixels on the panel that were unforgivable defects. I returned it for a full refund and grabbed a cheap used TF101 w/dock (locally) that I love. There's nothing it can't do compared to the Prime. I am 100% happy using it for a while as I sit on the sidelines to see what shakes our over the next 6-12 months. Its pretty awesome.
I reccommend doing the same. If you are intoxicated by the Prime you'd better make sure you can return it for a full refund just in case.
Best.
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I dont use GPS at all- Ha- one reply telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, one exactly what Im dreading. I really dont know what to think.
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I returned mine today, both TFP and the dock.
I am into technical adventures, especially when it goes against mainstream.
I own a Zune HD - it is a great device, and there is probably nothing better if one is after an MP3 and Video player.
But this is not why I got it - it was supposed to be an all-in-one device, similar to iPod Touch,
but it never became that - after 2 years of disappointing support and mediocre updates Microsoft just killed it.
Let's call it an unfulfilled promise
I also own a G Tablet - and it is a great device too, viewing angles aside,
but what makes it great is (1) being a very solid in terms of hardware and (2) unbelievable support from XDA and other forums,
from the online community.
The manufacturer - well, it is not really manufactured by Viewsonic, it is pretty much Malata ZPad with a Viewsonic logo on it
- so the "manufacturer" turned its back on it within a year or so after the "release".
Let's call it another unfulfilled promise
I am happy with what I learned about Android while NVFlashing this thing back and forth,
but I would be just as happy having a fully functional and supported device and a whole set of accessories and updates
- even a dock for it I had to order from China.
I purchased TFP because I told myself - no more experiments; I want something from a well-respected company
- for as long as it is not Apple, because that would be too mainstream
- something well designed and well executed, and functional, working fine right out of the box, and TFP seemed to be it.
I have heard about the GPS issue, but I thought that either it was a minor software bug that would be taken care of soon, or those unfortunates got faulty chips, and I would be luckier.
Well, I was wrong - while beautiful and with a lot of great functionality, the device has a number of hardware and/or software issues,
namely GPS, WiFi versus BT, playing 1080P - I named those my tablet had, but others complained about battery life, sleep of death, reboots and lockups.
What is upsetting is not even a number of issues but perceived weakness of ASUS to identify, admit, and PROPERLY FIX them.
For example, I never had WiFi versus BT thing on OTA .13, but I started having it as soon as I upgraded to OTA .14.
The same upgrade killed GPS completely and worsen 1080P video playback.
This tells me something is wrong not just with hardware and software, but also with ASUS development/QA/release management processes.
And the fact that the development community cannot really develop ROMS for the device because of the locked bootloader is not making things easier.
Yes, ASUS promised an unlock tool, but when will we see it?
And even then - so we will rely on the online community not just for getting brilliant ROMs to play around in leisure, but even for basic necessities the manufacturer is supposed to take care of?
I do believe that at the end ASUS will fix all the bugs and the signal strength aside will make it into a bulletproof device.
I just do not want to be a beta tester once again, I do not want to add another unfulfilled promise to my collection.
So as soon as I see that TFP is stable - I will buy it again... or that newer 1080P version with fixed GPS ASUS recently announced.
Hope this will help,
Okay- so- its looking like the TP isn't going to be my tablet of choice- I suppose I'll continue fruity choices!
Thanks for your help, I guess *dissapoint*
I have a prime right now...and it's not usable......I would say "wait"
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Okay- so- its looking like the TP isn't going to be my tablet of choice- I suppose I'll continue fruity choices!
Thanks for your help, I guess *dissapoint*
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Remember, selection bias. People who have problems with their prime are 1) more likely to be on XDA searching for solutions and 2) more vocal in their opinion.
From that CNET article, about .5% of primes have been returned for some reason.
I haven't gotten mine yet, but I have heard from lots of people who have a Prime and love it.
+1 on love my prime, no issues getting great wifi and my gps locks fine.
Love my Prime. Rooted and laid out with the Hubs Nav. Works great. Wifi is sometimes spotty but other than that it's quite excellent. Got the dock too, never looked back.
I leave my laptop at home now.
Dunno, maybe I just got lucky but I don't really see the issues that others do. Screen is flawless. There is a -slight- light bleed on the right side upper corner but not so noticeable that it's offensive or anything.
Overall I love my Prime, it's a great piece of engineering.
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Okay- I've been pretty into android for awhile- have a nexus one and LOVE it- but have an iPad 2 and like it quite a bit. I prefer android to iOS5, and have a sudden windfall of about 800 bucks, and am looking at updating to a new tablet.
I was pretty dead set on the Transformer Prime- from its reviews it looked breathtaking- but then I decided to check XDA- and- wow. Problems everywhere, wifi dead, dead pixels... wow.
So- now I'm unsure. I know the HD will fix a lot of the problems- but there is always the possibility it'll be laggy with the higher resolution- plus I cant STAND dead pixels. And, as I use my tablet full-time- that would not be ok.
Is this all overblown? Should I get the HD when it comes out? Honestly, really not trying to troll, but the fruity tablet has no problems, and this one appears to have a whole bucket of them.
Can a user who wants a tablet to use full time, with no dead pixels, use the prime or the prime HD?
Thanks!
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Buy Ipad 2 if you want a good working tablet, buy ATP if you want the best working tablet.
had my prime for 3 weeks now.
never had any wifi or gps or screen issues.
rooted fine, battery life with the .13 firmware was a little iffy but .14 is
much much better.
a very happy ATP owner.
(I had won an ipad and still gave it away to pay for prime tablet. best thing I ever did tablet wise.)
I agree with thenuge.
I've had a Prime for over a month now and I'm absolutely in love with it. I don't think I can go back. I should probably give a little background -- I've owned an iPhone since first gen through to the 4S. Owned a 4S for about a month but, after being sickeningly disappointed in how slow iOS is evolving, I took the plunge over to Android and bought the Galaxy Nexus (custom ROM / kernel, etc)... I had been waiting for ICS before making the switch (for both tablet & phone).
The prime replaced my iPad 2 within a few hours (the LiveWallpapers, I'm a sucker for them... especially the Phase Beam one!) and the Galaxy Nexus had my iPhone up on eBay within about a week.
When I first got the Prime, I upgraded to ICS right away. I then waited a week thinking I could do without rooting, but, like an addict, that commitment didn't last. Rooted, threw on Sixaxis, bought a mini-HDMI cable, and now I play a lot of games on the TV... and, sadly, at work.
There have been many days where I've been sent to different sites for 8-11 hours and, with the dock, I'll come home after literally the entire day with the screen on doing something, with 0% dock and ~30% prime battery levels. This thing is an absolute beast.
My prime just has a lack of GPS, which doesn't bother me... That's what my Nexus is for. I never purchased a tablet wanting GPS, so... I guess it's just a waste of a chip in there.
At any rate, that's my positive story for the device.
When I'm at home, my MBP often sits unused as the Prime does a lot just as well... especially browsing or laying around watching TV episodes.
Obviously, it doesn't have Skyrim, Saints Row, etc. on it, but as that sofa computer where you can sit with your gf and read the news (News360 is epic, btw... so is Pulse), it can't be beat.
Also, I agree -- I'm a little bit weirded out about a tablet with a higher resolution than my computer's monitors (1080p) -- yet with far less hardware to move those pixels. I think I'll believe it when I see it running smoothly in a game like Infinity Blade, until then, I have this sneaky feeling something's going to need to drop (like hq shadows or hq reflections and the like) in order to maintain 24-30fps in high quality games. I wonder if an iPad2 will still look better than the iPad3, in some cases (obviously not stills)? Nothing worse than lag.
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I just wanted to add one thing: The aspect ratio. Coming from an iPad2 to the TP, I was really kind of... eh, about using it in widescreen or with such a slim portrait. However, in the last month (my gf still has an iPad2), I've found myself actually very much enjoying the 16:10 ratio. Even in portrait, I find it easier to use.
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Okay- I've been pretty into android for awhile- have a nexus one and LOVE it- but have an iPad 2 and like it quite a bit. I prefer android to iOS5, and have a sudden windfall of about 800 bucks, and am looking at updating to a new tablet.
I was pretty dead set on the Transformer Prime- from its reviews it looked breathtaking- but then I decided to check XDA- and- wow. Problems everywhere, wifi dead, dead pixels... wow.
So- now I'm unsure. I know the HD will fix a lot of the problems- but there is always the possibility it'll be laggy with the higher resolution- plus I cant STAND dead pixels. And, as I use my tablet full-time- that would not be ok.
Is this all overblown? Should I get the HD when it comes out? Honestly, really not trying to troll, but the fruity tablet has no problems, and this one appears to have a whole bucket of them.
Can a user who wants a tablet to use full time, with no dead pixels, use the prime or the prime HD?
Thanks!
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Mine works fine, even GPS isn't an issue. No random reboots. no manufacturer flaws. C10K serial # if that helps.
Take a look at this n you'll easily see most don't suffer from issues or more than satisfied with device:
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Also look at this thread. All various testimonials of happy Positive prime owners. People with issues can't muster up these kinds of numbers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409910
Answer easily clear what's the best out right now.
I love my prime. I'd recommend it to anyone. But you should ask yourself what you want to use it for. The prime really shines in gaming (full gamepad support) also with fully working Emulators. It's also totally awesome for watching videos, with the perfect screen size and format (16:10). You can also watch high quality flash streams...
And then there's the dock, which takes it to a whole other lvl. I use it as a full laptop replacement, even able to use it for presentations with the HDMI-VGA adapter.
But if you just want to use some dedicated tablet apps and some browsing i guess the ipad will suffice.
About the issues? I have none. GPS is not the strongest but i always got a fix when i tested it. WIFI/BT are fully working and i got max speeds on my network. Screen is perfect as well. No bleeding or anything.
+ Asus is very fast with updates! + Bootloader is gonna be unlocked. I dont see any tablet being better than the Prime.
What does screen bleed look like? I got my new C3 serial model and I see white coming out on the sides when the screens all black? Please don't tell me that's it on my 2nd friggin prime!!!
Yup, thats bleed.
Since you have a C3, have you tested your Wifi/BT speeds at the same time? Just curious how yours is performing.
I haven't tested **** yet because I finally got it updated to 21. I'm so pissed. I can't believe I have to send yet another prime back. Are u ****ing kidding me
Is it really bad? Possible to take a pic for us?
Mine has some along the right side but since everything else works on mine cept GPS I live with it.. C3's are supposed to be good batch but looks like they're like the others as well..
Mostly on the right side.
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Once you posted these pics, I had a look at mine too. I too have a screen bleed ( I think two of them) on the right end of the screen. Now I can nitpick, rant and rave and all as much as I want, saying that I payed $500 of my hard earned cash that it better work 100% well. But guess what, its been a month since I got my device and so far I have never, ever noticed this. I watched a couple of movies too, but never noticed it. So, though technically there may be some flaws in my device, for all practical purposes it is unnoticeable and okay. I believe screen bleed is due to the screen being screwed a bit too tightly, so it is technically not a hardware issue, it is just a slight fitting issue which can be fixed if you open your device and tinker.
Similarly, my prime has 2 bright pixels (dead pixels that is). Still, I have never been bothered by it. Now, I may obsess about the screen bleed for a few days (because I just discovered a new "defect" in my prime thanks to you! nah, I'm joking, it's cool! ) but still I'm not gonna notice it.
Now your screen bleed seems benign too! If you notice it often, return it else keep it! As simple as that, bro!
\m/ Btw, my prime is a C1... Peace!
Sorry to see that man, that definitely looks worse than mine..and with a C3 you def got a right to be upset
You know, I lurk on ipad forums a lot. There's no question that almost all if not all ipads out there have back light bleed to some degree. And yet, ipad users don't really care about it since most people don't notice it until someone else points it out to them.
And yet on this side of the fence android users would cry bloody murder and make it out like it's the end of the world just because in a completely dark room with a device that is showing a completely black picture you can see some light coming from the corners.
For those who think backlight bleed is the end of the world, please do us all a favor and get a normal lcd display tablet. Or go get the ipad.
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What does screen bleed look like? I got my new C3 serial model and I see white coming out on the sides when the screens all black? Please don't tell me that's it on my 2nd friggin prime!!!
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90% of all LCDs have some form of screen bleed. TVs, Laptops, LCD monitors, iPads, etc. The reality is that it is just a consequence of the technology.
Unless you have incredibly prominent screen bleed that is distracting when the screen is not all black, or distracting enough to notice while watching dark movies, I wouldn't worry about it much.
From the photos you posted I don't think you have much to complain about.
goodintentions said:
You know, I lurk on ipad forums a lot. There's no question that almost all if not all ipads out there have back light bleed to some degree. And yet, ipad users don't really care about it since most people don't notice it until someone else points it out to them.
And yet on this side of the fence android users would cry bloody murder and make it out like it's the end of the world just because in a completely dark room with a device that is showing a completely black picture you can see some light coming from the corners.
For those who think backlight bleed is the end of the world, please do us all a favor and get a normal lcd display tablet. Or go get the ipad.
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I remember seeing this post on tf101 forums
goodintentions said:
You know, I lurk on ipad forums a lot. There's no question that almost all if not all ipads out there have back light bleed to some degree. And yet, ipad users don't really care about it since most people don't notice it until someone else points it out to them.
And yet on this side of the fence android users would cry bloody murder and make it out like it's the end of the world just because in a completely dark room with a device that is showing a completely black picture you can see some light coming from the corners.
For those who think backlight bleed is the end of the world, please do us all a favor and get a normal lcd display tablet. Or go get the ipad.
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I have an ipad2 and the new ipad with no lightbleeds. But the early primes I bought 3 of the 5 primes had definite light bleeds on more that 1 area and 1 had dead pixels. This is from my experience. Maybe I just have the worst luck with the prime like a few of the members here.
junrider said:
I have an ipad2 and the new ipad with no lightbleeds. But the early primes I bought 3 of the 5 primes had definite light bleeds on more that 1 area and 1 had dead pixels. This is from my experience. Maybe I just have the worst luck with the prime like a few of the members here.
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I have a tf101 32gig model and just bought a prime. It's got absolutely no light bleed whatsoever. It locks onto the gps in about 30 seconds and always sees at least 8 sats, sometimes 10-12, at any given time. Neither my transformers have any light bleed at all. My 16gig model did have some light bleed, though. Last year, I bought an ipad and ipad 2 and they both got light bleeds.
There have been plenty of articles regarding light bleeds on the ipads and that chances are if you got light bleed and want to exchange for another you will get another with light bleed.
All ips display devices are prone to backlight bleeds. Most people don't care about it because it's hardly noticable. Only a few people like yourself think it's the end of the world.
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ickkii said:
I remember seeing this post on tf101 forums
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You got me LOL.
I am now officially a proud owner of a prime with a fully working gps, strong as hell wifi signal, and no back light bleed whatsoever. Can't wait for the dock to arrive.
yeah my wifi works too and my gps is fine for the most part, was on my first unit too - this unit has a tiny bleed but it's barely worth mentioning compared to the amount of bleeds the tf101 had. Alot of people around here really can't appreciate how much better this tablet is over the original transformer.
Do you really notice that bleeding with normal use? Mine had this:
Which really has those bright spots, but this seems pretty gentle, however it shouldn't be there..
That screen bleed from the op doesnt look bad at all...
Room looks pitch black, and thats all you see. I can guarantee you can't see that during normal operation.
Op: your screen bleed actually is not that bad. I would not take another chance sending it back because you might get worse.
It took me 3 times before I got one that was tolerable. But then I opened my prime and fixed it by loosening some screws.
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monkey10120 said:
Op: your screen bleed actually is not that bad. I would not take another chance sending it back because you might get worse.
It took me 3 times before I got one that was tolerable. But then I opened my prime and fixed it by loosening some screws.
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how do you open it, and is it hard and/or dangerous?
chugger93 said:
how do you open it, and is it hard and/or dangerous?
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Here is a link to the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479664
pbelcomp said:
Here is a link to the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479664
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yeah it is very easy. Just follow instructions on some forums on xda. Also some say to insert tie prying tool at the to release. But I recommend the right side if the prime by the headphone Jack. Much easier.
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