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I just had to post this question because whenever I go to the development thread its like christmas with all these roms. Now, it seems as though none is being worked on except for "workshed, tenzo, tazz" and some others. but roms like "xtrsense, tenzo xtrcmix, zenexp, energyexpress" nothing have been done for a couple of months.
I know its hard work and definitely appreciate all the work that goes into the building of these roms. I hope to see updates soon.
ROM developers are people too!
After a while they decide to get new phones, and they start doing dev work on those phones. Or maybe they lose interest in the whole scene. Some of them continue to do dev work even after they no longer own the phone (hip hip, hurrah!). Over time though, there are fewer of them because no new folks are buying the phone.
All things considered, it seems that ROM devs stick around when they get positive feedback and develop a community of internet friends; they don't seem to be here just for the coffee - but they probably wouldn't mind a beverage every so often!
Send your favorite ROM dev some love today!
I also think that the state of Eclair and Froyo are relatively stable these days. That said, Zach.xtr has promised a coming upgrade to xtrROM in that thread.
As for Froyo, I am guessing a lot of the energy of the CyanogenMod team are directed at Gingerbread, so here's hoping that there are some exciting new things coming in the next several weeks or months.
I have nothing but respect for the work the devs are doing for the benefit of us Eris users, and I'm so thankful to all of them that I'm not stuck with stock Eris right now.
I am thankful to that I am not stuck with a stock eris, not that anything is wrong with stock but being that I have my eris til June its nice to be able to enjoy it.
Well most of the dev's can't really do much after a point. Once a ROM is fully working... where do you go? Gotta wait for Google to release updates.
Trust me, when 2.3/30 are full released the forum will be very active again.
I see. Seems like everyone is stuck on the gingerbread thing. Its cool. I like my eris and now with all these phones coming out seems so tempting to move on. But, The stock eris was boring but thanks to launcher pro we can mod and change things. so its almost not necessary to root, but I love the roms with different UI's.
Lots of thanks goes out to these Devs for creating these roms that can run on the little Eris.
I was hoping "energyexpress" would be updated. but its ok.
Hi!
I am a NOOB here..(yes my post will prove it) but I know from what I have read online and from other sites that someone here may be able to help me.. I know once this is read someone will want to post"Why didn't you search first?" Well I did and came up with a ton of threads(some relevant and some not but none really were what I am looking for I think) I am constantly travelling with my company and really do not have the time that some here may have to search all the posts for what I am looking for..plus I suffer from severe adhd which unless it is laid out step by step I get distracted and wander..like I am doing now lol... So please be gentle and I hope someone here can find the time to answer my question.. And again thanks
Here goes!!-
Been a lurker for awhile but been away(overseas) came back and had a great deal( I thought) on a viewsonic gtab cross my desk for 125.00...so I took the plunge from casual reading on net that I could root etc.. I have never owned a tablet so this is my first..
HELP ME LOVE MY GTAB!!!
Now I didnt know which subforum this belongs and if the mods have to move it so be it.. but I need help..and this is the help I am looking for-
I hate the tapntap..I want to root but do not know which rom to go with..I game alot and watch videos alot and grooveip alot... I hope that helps people in the suggestions for which rom I should use. I am computer savvy and follow instructions well...so please point me to anything that might help..I of course would love to have the latest (ics) but hear there is some limited functionality..if I am incorrect in this and some of the limitations in gingerbread please feel free to correct me.
I like to tinker...any cool tinkering/hacks I can do to this tab(that wont completely brick it lol) any sites to suggest..sites for people that love their gtab etc
Basically I just want to feel I got a good deal and I want to root but dunno which one to go to..and I want to keep my camera (for now) but if I see I am not using it much I may flash to something else later...but guys give me all your advice on which rom I should go to first that is the most stable and will suit the needs I outlined earlier... thank you for letting me be long winded..
BTW I love the site but feel overwhelmed with this..which is why I posted..so don't hate..appreciate that I look to your knowledge lol
Hi Bro!
Like you I was kind of lose with all this information about Gtab. My poor english made of google translator do not help me. But if you read a lot, perhaps you can reach something.
Did you know that site? http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
Well, that name isnt encouraging, but you will found good and easy information in this site. You know, easy steps, everything explained. Good to begin with.
Currently I am using this rom :Beasty/Clemsyn Ultimate Froyo Combo - Simply THE BEST (1.2 bootloader only)
Very fast, good for everything and all things are working, I guess.
Well, read a lot, read again and try something. As always, If you brick your gadget, all responsability is your. Let us know if something go wrong. If you reach success, let us know too. Is good substantiate, your problems can help other people in future.
As I already said, sorry for my poor english.
Good luck Dude.
I agree with jonnybr. Beastly-Clemsyn is my favorite rom when it comes to the stability and speed, at least for me, nothing else has matched it. Everything works, camera, hardware accel., even newer versions of most Gapps and most games work with no problem at all. Only exception is that if you use a USB mouse with your tablet, the orientation will be messed up but that's the price you pay for Skype to work.
If you are quite savvy and enjoy tinkering, maybe try a few different roms and see what you like best. Some of the others that are great are FrankenTab, CM7 (runs great but no HW accel.) and of course ICS (no camera yet and still a Beta build), but if you are looking for a working camera, low risk of problems and stability your best bet is to try one of the Froyo roms like Beastly or FrankenTab.
Funny, I started messing around with mine when I first got it to add functionality and make this thing actually useful and enjoyable. Come to find out, I get more use and enjoyment out of tinkering and messing with it than I do actually using it for it's intended purpose!
I have to agree with jonnybr as well. We were all noobies to at one point, but you made a well worth investment on the tablet. This tablet is virtually brick proof with the NVflash method. If it where me I would stick with a 1.2 boot loader, you can get the NVflash file from the link posted by jonnybr. That boot loader is ultimately the best for stability and reliability. Beastly rom is the best for a froyo rom. For visual pleasure I would lean towards VeganTab. Granted HW accel. is not the greatest, its a hacked version, but it is a 2.3 Gingerbread rom. A lot of potential with that particular rom. For me I currently am using DRH ICS since I don't really use my camera for anything special. This thing is more or less my touch screen netbook. Happy hunting.
Remember when this came out on fire sale and everyone was so pumped up to root the touchpad and get Cm 9 running? What's happened, it seems like it's slow down so much! I guess Cm 9 was mostly completed no thanks to HP, and they did a great job. what about jelly bean? We got a preview about a month ago and that's pretty much it. I know Oats have done a few things here and there, but compared to what it used to be, it just seems like this tablet is dying in terms of new development. Is that just the way the cookie crumbles? Should I sell my touchpad and get something newer? Like I said, cm 9 works great I'm just a little disappointed that people moved on so quickly, it's still has great specs for what it is, and for what most of us paid for it. In all honesty, I get scared to pay a donation to devs now, because I feel like they use the money to buy the next great thing and move on, when that is not the intention of the donation. The intent is to thank them for developing and improving roms, not to buy another tablet or phone and move on. Does anyone else feel this way, are my thoughts misguided?
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Yes, things do seem a little slow around here. I kind of just figured because the weather is nice outside that people are just not on XDA as much right now.
I imagine it would be hard to think about Developing when the sun is shining outside.
I think the intention of donations is to thank them for this ROM, today, not to guilt them into developing a future ROM. But by the way, I think CM10 is still being actively developed. There are links to the development updates at BBQLog in the CM10 thread.
I think the nexus 7 happened.
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I think the nexus 7 happened.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
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Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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because it was made clear they would be weeklies instead of nightlife and if there was no significant change directly related to the touchpad there would be no weeklies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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CM-10 for the touchpad is not ready for a nightly yet because many things still do not work (sound, video, mic etc). Under the TouchPad Development forum there is some info on a CM-10 build by Light n Tasty. I am a "junior", so no link posting for me, but the title is:
[ROM] OaT's Light n Tasty: CM9 (07/29), CM10 (08/19)
Once I downloaded the ROM I couldn't flash it in TWRP until I renamed the .zip to match the CM naming convention. If I remember correctly I named it to:
cm-10-20120819-unoffical.zip
I'm just as anxious to get JB going on my TP and Droid3, both of which are progressing very slowly. I have to keep reminding myself that it was indeed months before things were up and stable on either of those devices when ICS came. I am hoping for the best and good things will come to those who wait. Not to put pressure on anyone, but I suspect great things will happen in a couple weeks or so.
Along the lines of the Nexus 7, I think that the general price point for Android tablets (7" and 10") has dropped to the point where the TouchPad isn't the crazy deal that it was, even at $200-250 resale prices. Add to that the fact that TouchPad ICS is basically rock solid aside from the camera driver and there's just not a need for the level of activity we saw in the past when GB and then ICS were first being brought to the device. JB is obviously still a work-in-progress, but it's not the significant leap that ICS was relative to GB where it was an actual tablet-oriented OS instead of a handset-oriented OS running on tablet hardware.
Anyway, I'm not knocking it at all because the TP is a fantastic device with ICS installed, but it makes sense to me that it would slow down as the work has become increasingly more complete and newer, higher-end hardware has reached a competitive price point.
ima disagree yet again. i think dropping interest in a device because something new and shiny comes along makes for a bad development community. and these forums are about keeping devices alive as manufacturers and carriers are so quickly dismissive with their out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new money making attitudes. i dont think we should pose a defeatist withdrawl, defending lack of development by saying "welp, this ones good enough, and the next versions not that big a leap anyways". its a real shame dalingrin isnt as interested in this device any more, and that development seems dead. hopefully there will be a regroup and a few brave men with the skills and talent can kick start it up again. ill be looking forward to the day that this device, which still has a very large market share, gets the interest it deserves.
To be fair the craze wasn't that much on development when the fire sale happened. We only had dalingrin working on it. I'm still surprised jelly bean hasn't moved forward on the touchpad. I thought it was a small jump
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Im sure jcsullis is still working on the touchpad but thats it. From the start we just had a few developers working on the touchpad and those few had more problems "fighting" each other, instead of working together. For example the classicnerds, instead of group up with dalingrin and co. and try to improve what already was there (cyanogenmod), they just created something new with the same bugs -> over-all-progress = 0%.
Very interesting discussions. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. Jack, I hope someone steps up as well. This still has respectable specs for the $$.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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Agree 100%. Love running CM9 on my TP. If JB comes to it, great. If not, no complaints here.
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They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Somebody is working hard on cracking the camera here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16347-dev-ics-camera-hd-video-hw-acceleration-fix/page__st__160
After having a good look around I agree there is a huge gap in development here... with AOKP no longer supporting us and now OaT gone too that has left us with just the CM9 weeklies...
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well, they are supposed to be nightlies. but it doesnt get built every night. not even every week at this point. im thinking it may have official support dropped soon.
Yes yes, this is a life story thread, but I want to chronicle how far we have come in the last few months, and the incredible teamwork this community has.
Around march, I got my Galaxy Player for the first time. With the galssy eyes of a techno geek unwrapping his new gadgets, I tore open the box, and beheld my shiny new toy, something, which I did now know at the time, that would take me far beyond my wildest dreams of technical success. Of course I bricked it withing the first 3 hours, "accidentally" deleting ALL the dalvik control settings from build.prop, and not having adb installed at the time, or even knowing what the heck Odin was, spent a merry 7-8 hours trying to get my prized posession back to it's stock state. I probably repartitioned and flash over 50 times that night, which was also when I flashed the INTL bootloader off of zaclimon's thread (little knowing that I would have a healthy partnership with him in just a few months), and thet next morning, I was back in business.
Of course I crack-flashed ALL the rom's there were for the 4.0 at the time. Klin's klassic, steve's, rooted stock, whatever I could find. I just couldn't help but feel slightly depressed that there wasn't really much of a dev presence for my new device, and I was more the enviously eyeing the 5.0's ICS builds. So I lurked for a few months, pondering whether I should even activate my dormant XDA account, scared that I was just too much of a noob to actually get help.
One day though, I took the plunge. I decided that I was going to try and get my feet wet in this "xda" thing, and maybe browse general, helping the occaisonal user in distress. Just 1 day later, I posted my first contribution thread, without even having 10 posts! The tweak guide for the Player, how proud I was of it. All the nice tweaks I had enjoyed on my TF and had discovered for my Gplayer, all there for my own personal quick applying.
2 days after that, I began asking klin1344 about ICS, as reading through some threads, I thought I heard some rumours about a secret underground build that may have been surfacing, as well as whether or not SGS (what is that?) tweaks can be used on our player. He pleasantly responded with the fact that no, there was no ICS, and he had never considered using SGS tweaks. Would I like to be his dev partner?
I will not lie to you, this FLOORED me. Little me, the noob who had maybe had is Gplayer for 2 weeks, and barely knew his way around the terminal, being asked by a dev to help him? Easily one of the proudest moments of my XDA career. I signed up immedately, we began discussing, and ended up coming to a mutual agreement that partnering may not be the best idea, as we both had differing opinions on what should constitute a ROM. He was going to let me support Klassic (my favorite rom), and he was going to start a SGSII themed rom (which turned into ICY fusion.
With joy in my heart, I learned the basics I needed from him (such as DD) and began applying all the tweaks I had from my tweaks thread into this rom. I decided to rename it "stratusrom", and include multiple releases. One beta, one weekly, and one stable. This was nixed completely as soon as I learned how hard devving could be, and after a few false starts that long time forum members will remember, and renaming it "stratusrom" and eventually "etherealrom" (hence the celestially-named projects that I am related to, if you guys wanted to know), I began devving. Not much happened here, I released a few iterations, guiding hands such as daniel644 and the dev zaclimon provided their amazing help to the poor little dev who could (me), trying to make a decent rom. At one point, I had a falling out with Klin (whcih I am sure most of you remember, that was a scary night for me, the little dev, being whaled on full-force by a senior-class dev, with both us us threatening to remove our work), but let's not dig up old bones. Long story short, I rethemed my rom, made it not-klassic, and just worked on it until about mid-july.
In the meantime, I was releasing a whole slew of threads documenting my research. Who knew that SGS roms could be easily ported, and that rom creation wasn't scary? I had a blast finding all of these things out, and even gained a small following during this time, as most development had died off, with klin never really getting his heart back into 4.0 development, tdm leaving, and Balor leaving his kernel for good.
Then it happened. I decided to spearhead an ICS initiative (as at the point, while I didn't even know what a compiler was, thought I was knowledgable enought to start something like that), to finally get it working. Ah, the good old days. Me, neyodmiun and zaclimon, swapping ideas, with the occaissonal user popping in to offer advice or to comment on our progress. Around this time, I also began getting support questions, and as I answered them nicely, and genuinely tried to help them beyond the normal "find my help post" and no response afterwards, and ended up getting a reputation as being someone who wouldn't blow off noobs (not that I am accusing anyone of doing so, but I know that some devs do not take users seriously at all). zaclimon offered up the idea of hiring a freelance dev, and that was ultimately accepted as our plan. Enter Oisis.
This is where most of you guys will know me from. With Oisis on board, we booted ICS on august 13th, and were in business after that. I formed a team aptly named "TeamSuperNova", and got to work learning what the heck GCC was, and where the vendor folder went. What's github again?
Not much to tell from here, as the rest is just history.
I want to thank everyone on XDA for making this journey possible. From klin1344, and zaclimon, to goldflame, and all the other users to have taken on the excellent role of support, so that we can work on what really matters, I think I, no WE have accomplished what we wanted. While our entire community is very small, we are all united as a TEAM, working together like clockwork. Some new user has an issue with cm9? The support team is on it right away, and we normally have their issues sorted out in a few hours. Someone wants to start development? Zaclimon, me, or any of the other devs quickly pop in and give them some advice on where to start, and some resources to use. Any PM that I get, however noobish or "silly" it seems, I answer, and most of the time I actually get it resolved. So don't be afraid to speak up and give your opinion or ask for help. That's what we all are here for. To help, and contribute, as much as we can.
Thank you XDA, users, and everyone for making all of this possible. Now that my speech is over, feel free to put up your own personal story, or just discuss.
Where did you actually start to learn to dev? I've been wanting to start and I asked Meticulus (if you remember him, he was part of the old dev family) and all he told me was "Read a lot " Not the best answer.
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You are a great example of what xda members should be like, I also would like to try to follow in your footsteps as I just got my sgp two weeks ago to !
thank you hanthesolo for all your great work!
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Where did you actually start to learn to dev? I've been wanting to start and I asked Meticulus (if you remember him, he was part of the old dev family) and all he told me was "Read a lot " Not the best answer.
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Well quite honestly, I just picked it up here and there. Devving isn't really something you "pick up overnight", or read a how to on. Essentially the best way to learn how to dev, is to do something horrible to one of your devices, and then try to fix it . I can't tell you how much I learned when I bricked my player for the first time. What's Odin? You mean cwm installs WITH the kernel? Just take you're time, try and Google anything you may have questions about, and ask devas anytime you have a problem (hopefully in pm). Other than that, my ROM creation guide may help you get started (although I really need to clean it up), and once you feel confident enough to start compiling, pop me a pm, and I will be happy to guide you through any questions you may have.
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You are a great example of what xda members should be like, I also would like to try to follow in your footsteps as I just got my sgp two weeks ago to !
thank you hanthesolo for all your great work!
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Thanks for the compliment! I HATE it when devs get a superiority complex over their users, and basically refuse to talk to them/help them, or do so in an extremely condescending way, which hurts the community more than it helps, especially a small one like this.
To start revving, just refer to my response above, and pop me a pm whenever you need any help .
I've hard bricked my Player twice and I guess I know how to recover from any situation, I know all the things and headaches associated with bricking a player and such. But thanks for your reply!
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The Samsung update has been itemized and posted on numerous news blogs. Each details all the fancy new features.
Well has anyone actually been able to use them?
Isn't this already 10 months after JB was released?
Why are there more blogs about the features 4.1.2 is supposed to include, and not more about how none of them are actually there?
I have read a few posts about the features being activated "at a later date". Why is this necessary? I have come to the conclusion that the Note I717 is officially obsolete.
No mutli view.
No page buddy.
No "increased preformance" from butter.
no fun.
Ok this rant is really just to see if everyone else feels the burn. Maybe all our internet rage can make the developers realize they should stop pushing out lack-luster performance! Not that we keep things stock, I would like a better foundation to build something amazing onto though!
I dunno, I really like the release. I am happy we got it.
Nice first post. Now, maybe you should spend a little more time researching and you will find that when JB was released to our phone....the source code should not be far behind.....and the source code is what is exciting and needed for the devs!
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I for one am over the moon that Samsung came good for this update. I now have a fully functioning Google Now experience on a rom that is stock stable.
I went for a 12km run this morning using sporty pal to track my distance and listened to tune in radio the whole way...for fun, I whipped out my camera and took a few pics along the way. All this with decent battery stats.
Any other rom I have used would have crashed at some point doing all those three things at once.
Thread closed. Appreciate the angst and anxiety being discussed, but this is a development site.
Why not contribute to said development versus complaining about "stuff"?