[Q] Question About Rooting - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi,
Sorry i am a newbie here ..so asking this stupid question.. I Rooted my Galaxy S2 using shorfuse program. Can someone tell me if rooting replaces the stock ROM, baseband or kernel? The triangle that appears on boots shows that i have indeed ROOTED my galaxy, how can i restore it to the original condition it was?
Samsung KIES is currently offering an upgrade, is it for the ROOTED (if it changes the rom) or the original ROM?
Sorry again. Will appreciate the help

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Update will revert u to non rooted, and if u didn't rom it it should be on stock kernel and rom
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Xxxdevilxxx said:
hi,
Sorry i am a newbie here ..so asking this stupid question.. I Rooted my Galaxy S2 using shorfuse program. Can someone tell me if rooting replaces the stock ROM, baseband or kernel? The triangle that appears on boots shows that i have indeed ROOTED my galaxy, how can i restore it to the original condition it was?
Samsung KIES is currently offering an upgrade, is it for the ROOTED (if it changes the rom) or the original ROM?
Sorry again. Will appreciate the help
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First rooting does not replace the stock ROM and the baseband . The kernel might be replaced , i can only tell about CF-Root kernel . This method replaces the stock kernel with CF-root kernel. No idea about shorfuse sorry.
You have to note your android software version , kernel and baseband before rooting .flash back all to stock. In SuperOneKlick root programm is a button called "Unroot" . Your phone will be unrooted.
Kies offers you a stock samsung rom. If you updated you will loose root.

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Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry for the noob questions again, can you give info on the following
Basic Questions:
1- What is a baseband version?
2- What is the Build Number?
3- What is the Kernel Number and how does it differentiate from the build number?
4- Now After Rooting which of the above mentioned are changed?
5- Why does a triangle appear if i still have my Stock ROM?
Thanks again

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dont ask any questions or you will be laughed at by idiots

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Maxomix0 said:
First rooting does not replace the stock ROM and the baseband . The kernel might be replaced , i can only tell about CF-Root kernel . This method replaces the stock kernel with CF-root kernel. No idea about shorfuse sorry.
You have to note your android software version , kernel and baseband before rooting .flash back all to stock. In SuperOneKlick root programm is a button called "Unroot" . Your phone will be unrooted.
Kies offers you a stock samsung rom. If you updated you will loose root.
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i didn't note the version before rooting. Is it still possible to find out which i had? and the update Samsung is offering does Samsung checks which kernel do you have and propose an update accordingly or is it different?
The UNROOT button does it replaces my CF-Kernel with something else?

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tonybhoy said:
dont ask any questions or you will be laughed at by idiots
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Tht's how the world works no? You ask ppl laugh at you and then they ask and you laugh back..but all in all everything is good if you do help with the questions they ask while laughing at them

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Xxxdevilxxx said:
i didn't note the version before rooting. Is it still possible to find out which i had? and the update Samsung is offering does Samsung checks which kernel do you have and propose an update accordingly or is it different?
The UNROOT button does it replaces my CF-Kernel with something else?
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First, i don't laugh at people who are new in the Rooting/ROM section here on XDA. I remember my first Rooting
No you can't. But if you want to go back to stock ROM just update the update kies is offering. You will loose root and you will be on stock rom. Samsung KIES will never offer you a Custom ROM update. It offers all the time samsung stock roms. If the unroot button changes the kernel i don't know , sorry .

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Basic Questions:
1- What is a baseband version?
2- What is the Build Number?
3- What is the Kernel Number and how does it differentiate from the build number?
4- Now After Rooting which of the above mentioned are changed?
5- Why does a triangle appear if i still have my Stock ROM?
hi mate ill try and break it down for you.
1- go into settings, scroll to the bottom, click on about phone, look under baseband version. the latest baseband im aware of is i9100xxlph, if your on gingerbread it will be an earlier version, if so you can use a usb jig, about 2 quid on ebay to remove the yellow triangle.
2- build number is simply the name the given by the manufacturer ( or custom rom builder ) to the rom that is on your phone, it might include the date and time when it was compiled.
3- kernel number will be called kernel version, this will tell you which kernel you have on and you can change this to one you please, something like cf-root, siyah kernel, red pill, theres loads to choose from
4- when you simply root your phone you wont change any of the above other than the kernel, you have simply enabled yourself super user access, you should have superuser and hopefully clockworkmod recovery ( cwm ) and busybox, with the root applied to your phone you can then choose to download a custom kernel to enable things like overclocking, removing stock bloatware ( mediahub, readers hub, apmobile and all the other crap thats not really any use to anybody) and with cwm you can download rom zips directly to your phone to enable you to customize it with what ever you want.
5- you have a triangle because you have an insecure kernel, ( a rooted one ) and you used a pc or other comp, and a program like the one you used or odin, to put it on your phone, this tells samsung should you put your phone in for repair that you have rooted it, your binary counter will show up as 1 and will void your warranty, ill tell you if your interested in how to remove that once you understand what ive said in this post, if you want to know anything ill help you anyway i can mate.

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wezza1979 said:
Basic Questions:
1- What is a baseband version?
2- What is the Build Number?
3- What is the Kernel Number and how does it differentiate from the build number?
4- Now After Rooting which of the above mentioned are changed?
5- Why does a triangle appear if i still have my Stock ROM?
hi mate ill try and break it down for you.
1- go into settings, scroll to the bottom, click on about phone, look under baseband version. the latest baseband im aware of is i9100xxlph, if your on gingerbread it will be an earlier version, if so you can use a usb jig, about 2 quid on ebay to remove the yellow triangle.
2- build number is simply the name the given by the manufacturer ( or custom rom builder ) to the rom that is on your phone, it might include the date and time when it was compiled.
3- kernel number will be called kernel version, this will tell you which kernel you have on and you can change this to one you please, something like cf-root, siyah kernel, red pill, theres loads to choose from
4- when you simply root your phone you wont change any of the above other than the kernel, you have simply enabled yourself super user access, you should have superuser and hopefully clockworkmod recovery ( cwm ) and busybox, with the root applied to your phone you can then choose to download a custom kernel to enable things like overclocking, removing stock bloatware ( mediahub, readers hub, apmobile and all the other crap thats not really any use to anybody) and with cwm you can download rom zips directly to your phone to enable you to customize it with what ever you want.
5- you have a triangle because you have an insecure kernel, ( a rooted one ) and you used a pc or other comp, and a program like the one you used or odin, to put it on your phone, this tells samsung should you put your phone in for repair that you have rooted it, your binary counter will show up as 1 and will void your warranty, ill tell you if your interested in how to remove that once you understand what ive said in this post, if you want to know anything ill help you anyway i can mate.
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Tell me please how i can remove the yelllow triangle without jig please

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Maxomix0 said:
First, i don't laugh at people who are new in the Rooting/ROM section here on XDA. I remember my first Rooting
No you can't. But if you want to go back to stock ROM just update the update kies is offering. You will loose root and you will be on stock rom. Samsung KIES will never offer you a Custom ROM update. It offers all the time samsung stock roms. If the unroot button changes the kernel i don't know , sorry .
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Thanks bro ... The ROOTING was easy now just wanted to look at the after effects..hehe.. So samsung kies probably doesn't check the kernel version to offer update!

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first i need to know that your baseband version is, look in settings and post it on here

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wezza1979 said:
Basic Questions:
1- What is a baseband version?
2- What is the Build Number?
3- What is the Kernel Number and how does it differentiate from the build number?
4- Now After Rooting which of the above mentioned are changed?
5- Why does a triangle appear if i still have my Stock ROM?
hi mate ill try and break it down for you.
1- go into settings, scroll to the bottom, click on about phone, look under baseband version. the latest baseband im aware of is i9100xxlph, if your on gingerbread it will be an earlier version, if so you can use a usb jig, about 2 quid on ebay to remove the yellow triangle.
2- build number is simply the name the given by the manufacturer ( or custom rom builder ) to the rom that is on your phone, it might include the date and time when it was compiled.
3- kernel number will be called kernel version, this will tell you which kernel you have on and you can change this to one you please, something like cf-root, siyah kernel, red pill, theres loads to choose from
4- when you simply root your phone you wont change any of the above other than the kernel, you have simply enabled yourself super user access, you should have superuser and hopefully clockworkmod recovery ( cwm ) and busybox, with the root applied to your phone you can then choose to download a custom kernel to enable things like overclocking, removing stock bloatware ( mediahub, readers hub, apmobile and all the other crap thats not really any use to anybody) and with cwm you can download rom zips directly to your phone to enable you to customize it with what ever you want.
5- you have a triangle because you have an insecure kernel, ( a rooted one ) and you used a pc or other comp, and a program like the one you used or odin, to put it on your phone, this tells samsung should you put your phone in for repair that you have rooted it, your binary counter will show up as 1 and will void your warranty, ill tell you if your interested in how to remove that once you understand what ive said in this post, if you want to know anything ill help you anyway i can mate.
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Thanks mate this was really helpful!!.. One last question though if i upgrade the firmware using Samsung KIES will it reset the counter? (Doesn't matter coz my warranty isn't in anyway effected by it) just curious question? Read about a USB jig a few seconds earlier than your post, i would have to use that to reset the counter wouldn't I? And if i dont edit the binary counter now when i am on 2.3.3 i can't do it after i upgrade, since USB jig has known issues with 2.3.6 and above, no?

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wezza1979 said:
first i need to know that your baseband version is, look in settings and post it on here
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Here's the Info:
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100XXXKF1
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100JPKG2-CL342890
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.JPKG2

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Xxxdevilxxx said:
Thanks bro ... The ROOTING was easy now just wanted to look at the after effects..hehe.. So samsung kies probably doesn't check the kernel version to offer update!
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Np mate .. i can recommend CheckROM Revo v6 + ICS Domination 2.0.3 Theme.. these guys who made it are amasing. Check it out. Yes, KIES wants that you are using a Original Samsung rom and not any other custom made

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Xxxdevilxxx said:
Thanks mate this was really helpful!!.. One last question though if i upgrade the firmware using Samsung KIES will it reset the counter? (Doesn't matter coz my warranty isn't in anyway effected by it) just curious question? Read about a USB jig a few seconds earlier than your post, i would have to use that to reset the counter wouldn't I? And if i dont edit the binary counter now when i am on 2.3.3 i can't do it after i upgrade, since USB jig has known issues with 2.3.6 and above, no?
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It won't reset the counter. You need the jig to reset the counter and remove the yelllow triangle.

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no mate if you update via kies it wont reset the counter, and you dont have to use the jig to reset it, have a look at this thread by intratech ( hes ****hot)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
find your baseband in the list and download the stock kernel from it, flash this through odin, use 1.85, flash it in the pda section of it, it will get rid of your triangle but keep your root. its not the fact that its 2.3.6 that makes it redundant exactly, its that it uses the new bootloader, you can download the old bootloader and flash it through odin in the bootloader section and use the jig to reset it and then if you want to but not required flash the new one over the top of it, if your interested in using a non official icecream sandwich ( im currently using cyanogenmod 9 nightlie ( which is awesome ) you canuse chainfires triangle away program, a zip file you can flash with cwm and that gets rid of the triangle also but it only works on ice cream sandwich as far as i am aware.

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Maxomix0 said:
Np mate .. i can recommend CheckROM Revo v6 + ICS Domination 2.0.3 Theme.. these guys who made it are amasing. Check it out. Yes, KIES wants that you are using a Original Samsung rom and not any other custom made
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Will do but i have to admit i am one of those obsessive ppl whining over the delay of ICS so gonna upgrade to that when it comes out and if not satisfied then gonna try all the custom ROMS out there lol

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wezza1979 said:
no mate if you update via kies it wont reset the counter, and you dont have to use the jig to reset it, have a look at this thread by intratech ( hes ****hot)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
find your baseband in the list and download the stock kernel from it, flash this through odin, use 1.85, flash it in the pda section of it, it will get rid of your triangle but keep your root. its not the fact that its 2.3.6 that makes it redundant exactly, its that it uses the new bootloader, you can download the old bootloader and flash it through odin in the bootloader section and use the jig to reset it and then if you want to but not required flash the new one over the top of it, if your interested in using a non official icecream sandwich ( im currently using cyanogenmod 9 nightlie ( which is awesome ) you canuse chainfires triangle away program, a zip file you can flash with cwm and that gets rid of the triangle also but it only works on ice cream sandwich as far as i am aware.
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Thanks man that clears everything up!! And the thread you forwarded me too is awesome , now i dont have to worry about getting my stock kernel back !!. and how is CM9? Is it better than stock as in does it provide more features or sumthing like that or just visually pleasing?

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and how is CM9? Is it better than stock as in does it provide more features or sumthing like that or just visually pleasing?
cm9 is excellent, it has the new ics camera, with paneramic mode and the video camera mode works unlike the others ive tested, its not fully complete, the theme functions arent in place yet, but it runs sweet as a nut, never crashes and i use rom manager, paid 3.99 for it well worth the money, and you can download roms straight to your phone though it its a great bit of kit, they post all the updated roms on it too for the one you have installed. gotta dash man if you need help with owt give me a shout. oh dont forget the thanks button if i helped!!