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was wondering if this could be possible cause i was reading the forums and found someone that did it by flashing the ap to the verizon razr if you could help me out that would be great thanks
It's not possible. Verizon uses CDMA, EVDO and LTE. AT&T uses GSM and UMTS. Completely different technologies. However, if you can get an XT910, a GSM version of the RAZR, you can use it on AT&T (this is what I have).
Ginzls1 said:
was wondering if this could be possible cause i was reading the forums and found someone that did it by flashing the ap to the verizon razr if you could help me out that would be great thanks
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im actually looking into this because my cousin has just left Verizon for att and it is possible they use sim cards and people have reported it working im not sure on many details of it yet but its out there just google "verizon droid razr on at&t"
look here http://blog.laptopmag.com/ics-world-phone-capabilities-come-to-verizons-droid-razr-and-razr-maxx
You cannot do that after the ICS update. With ICS, you can roam onto global GSM networks but many people have reported that you cannot change the default network from Verizon.
From everything I've heard the xt912 has the appropriate radios to connect with at&t cell towers but the usage of this feature is being blocked by vzw. Now I don't know if a custom rom like cm9 would allow for this or not.
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Try going to the dial pad. *#*#4636#*#* you should be able to set your radio to gsm
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glantern620 said:
Try going to the dial pad. *#*#4636#*#* you should be able to set your radio to gsm
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I believe the open is talking about using an at&t sim card on an at&t plan, not just roaming on their bandwidth
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563
There are people working on it but it's not yet possible.
RAZR on AT&T network
Yes it is possible. I did it. The only thing is that I only use the phone for calls and texts and WiFi for data. In the bionic forum, they tell you to download Radiocomm. I did not do that. AlI did was just change the setting to gsm/utms network and placed the AT&T sim card and waited for 15-30 minutes for the phone to connect
Btw, I'm on ics.
Well,I tried to attach pic but admin won't let me
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Pic with data on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804388
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***UPDATE 6/26/2012***
Ok, not all the info that I got before was 100% correct. It looks like RAZR / MAXX is unlocked only for Global(GSM) use which is outside of USA. The Tmobile and ATT sims are not fully working as of right now.
We have couple amazing Devs which are working to resolve this issue.
Please PM me if you want me to update the OP.
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On the Bionic forum people found a way to activate disabled feature of couple 4g verizon phones to be able to use it on GSM networks.
Can someone test it please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714
***UPDATE***
Follow this steps to make it work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25967009&postcount=118
Amazing...no one here has any interest in this? maybe you should have posted in the development section. This is great news if it gets working on the razr.
I posted this earlier...as far as I know it's still a work in progress but very cool nonetheless.
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Welp the Bionic can't do it for sure. Doesn't have a GSM radio... at all.
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Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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I stand corrected. Well played.
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I was under the impression that we just needed the unlock code. Once we have it from say...att, then we put the sim in,enter the code and good to go...maybe its not that easy but on YouTube it looks pretty close lol.
As far as I know it's not that easy due to the fact that the GSM modem itself is disabled. Unless your talking about roaming onto the LTE network. Though ATT uses different frequencies.
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I was really surprised that people did not accept this news well. I was extremely happy to hear that we can use our phones with GSM providers since I am planing to travel soon.
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Actually if you have read the whole thread in the OP link. People are successfully using their phones in Brazil.
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Yeah. No thought about lte if I had to use GSM. I feel dumb as that's the entire point of the maxx being called a global phone lol. There's a video and it is really easy to do.
i just did it and is working perfect
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
This is good news been wanting to try a maxx on att
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i just did it and is working perfect
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I think people will highly appreciate if you provide more detailed information, because there should be some differences in this hack between RAZR and Bionic.
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
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Can you share that knowledge in your tech head with us too.
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this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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lrrc29 said:
this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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Thank you I will follow it later on.
this could get interesting
Okay so, here's my predicament..I'm currently using an Atrix 2 with a regular sized SIM card and wanted to test this out on a busted VZW Razr I got from work (there's a huge crack in the screen and it was just collecting dust). If I went into an AT&T store and bought a micro-SIM, would it work?
The only reason I'm confused is because all I know that AT&T uses the micro-SIMs for is the iPad; I don't know if the structure of the SIM card changes to accomodate just data, or if voice will be able to be transmitted as well.
Att SIM card works on Verizon RAZR! Just needs little modification. Does not even require root! Thanks to the bionic forum
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Att SIM card works on Verizon RAZR! Just needs little modification. Does not even require root! Thanks to the bionic forum
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does data work ?
what "little modification" are we talking about
write up ? link ?
The procedure...
Data does work because I get an "H". But i choose to turn off data because i do not want to be billed.
I am on ics.
This is what I did (modified from the bionic forum)
- got an att sim card activated with a basic gsm phone
- turned off razr
- replaced the Verizon sim card with att Sim card
- turned on phone. You will get an "unknown sim card" error. Press ok
- go to system setting>more> mobile networks> select GSM/UMTS
- click back button, select access point names, select AT&T US (wap.cingular)
- press *#*#4636#*#*
- go to phone information, select WCDMA preferred, below it, turn off radio then turn it back on, exit by pressing home
- turn off data sync in the mobile data networks. Also turn off wifi.
- wait up to 30 minutes or more to let the phone connect to the network
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I've heard of people getting AT&T text and calls to work on a XT912 but to date, I've not read of anyone getting data to work. Can you confirm that you have working data (without wifi obviously lol)?
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Wish mine would cooperate so easily. It's been set like that for several weeks and never connected.
Anyone else successful? I got nada trying this.
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I've heard of people getting AT&T text and calls to work on a XT912 but to date, I've not read of anyone getting data to work. Can you confirm that you have working data (without wifi obviously lol)?
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I turned on data then I lost the signal. It would not come back even though the phone reads the access point name. I think either AT&T or Verizon saw that I'm using an unauthorized sim card and disabled the signal.
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My RAZR gets Mexican signals roaming but would not connect to AT&T.
Got the signal back!
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I just left it on and waited for almost a day. I did not do anything special from the previous posted steps.
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What about on data only, no wifi?
SHVR MAXX
Turning on data breaks/loses my signal with AT&T
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Turning on data breaks/loses my signal with AT&T
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That's what I figured. Cellzealot is working on a hack but it doesn't look very promising - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563. They do have a hack for the Bionic to use 3G on AT&T. I set my little bros phone up a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, the hack seems to only work on GB and not ICS. Most Moto global phones can be unlocked for AT&T but since the Razr wasn't officially released as a global phone and they basically only announced global support because they couldn't patch it on ICS (my opinion, not confirmed), the Razr is different.
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I heard that you only lose data when in U.S., when overseas your (overseas) SIM will work with data.
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That's what I figured. Cellzealot is working on a hack but it doesn't look very promising - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563. They do have a hack for the Bionic to use 3G on AT&T. I set my little bros phone up a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, the hack seems to only work on GB and not ICS. Most Moto global phones can be unlocked for AT&T but since the Razr wasn't officially released as a global phone and they basically only announced global support because they couldn't patch it on ICS (my opinion, not confirmed), the Razr is different.
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From the bionic forum is where I saw that moto phones will work if the GSM radio is installed and enabled. Being updated to ics, Verizon enabled Gsm radio to have used as a global phone.
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mc732 said:
Wish mine would cooperate so easily. It's been set like that for several weeks and never connected.
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Are you using an AT&T SIM card?
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I heard that you only lose data when in U.S., when overseas your (overseas) SIM will work with data.
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I haven't followed it as closely as I once did, but the Droid 3 is completely hackable because AT&T has a similar device. So I purchased the unlock code, flashed the GSM radio and it was done. TBH created a hack for the Droid Pro that would unlock it (old file, not recently updated) similar to the unlock file that works for the Bionic. They also have a Razr unlock file that I believe changes some settings to GSM (I don't believe it's a true hack just setting changes) but it doesn't unlock data in the US. It only allows data overseas. One user in the thread I linked to reported picking up data in the US but only because he's close to Canada and AT&T was roaming to Canadian towers. That's further proof that Verizon and US GSM networks have enabled some sort of block that is yet to be cracked. Cellzealot is a pretty smart guy. If I had to guess (that is IF it can be hacked), he'll be the guy to do it.
A general consensus across the board is that ICS has changed the radio handling which has made sim unlocking much more difficult and patched previous hacks. Again, I'm just paraphrasing what I've read from Cellzealot. He's your guy for more information.
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Are you using an AT&T SIM card?
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Yeah. I've messed around with this for a while and never gotten any gsm service. I'll trade you phones lol.
I wonder why this works for some and not others..
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Yeah. I've messed around with this for a while and never gotten any gsm service. I'll trade you phones lol.
I wonder why this works for some and not others..
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Are you on ICS? Wont work on GB. Some users report that it shows no service but they can still make calls and texts.
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Are you on ICS? Wont work on GB. Some users report that it shows no service but they can still make calls and texts.
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On ICS now but I've tried it on GB too. Never have gotten anything to work. Have done the NV edit and various patches, roms, settings.
I hope cellzealot has an epiphany.
I have a Droid X2 laying around and was wondering if I was able to switch this phone to a Verizon prepaid or any other pay as you go service?
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I have a Droid X2 laying around and was wondering if I was able to switch this phone to a Verizon prepaid or any other pay as you go service?
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I'm pretty sure it will run on pageplus. They use Verizon's system so the coverage and service would be the same. As long as the esn is good on it.
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I'm pretty sure it will run on pageplus. They use Verizon's system so the coverage and service would be the same. As long as the esn is good on it.
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Phones legit. When got this phone as a replacement I decided to just activate my old BlackBerry. PagePlus another type of pay as you go?
Pag plus cellular does indeed work. (Sending from mu dx2 on PP)
Its a good deal. 55$/month unlimited voice/text and 2GB data
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Pag plus cellular does indeed work. (Sending from mu dx2 on PP)
Its a good deal. 55$/month unlimited voice/text and 2GB data
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Whats needs to be done to the phone before attempting to activate on PagePlus?
basically just filled out the account stuff here: http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Online Store/Activate.aspx
once that was done I had the activate phone thing come up and dial out with verizons horrid music..
But I bought mine used lil over a month ago, from cowboom for 150$. (might not be a great deal, but was with AT&T before, 2g towers locally = max of about 150MB used a month, and miserable lol)
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Pag plus cellular does indeed work. (Sending from mu dx2 on PP)
Its a good deal. 55$/month unlimited voice/text and 2GB data
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You are using a Droid x2 on Page Plus Cellular? I've been looking to go prepaid but most prepaid networks that allow you to bring in other carrier's phones (the X2 is Verizon's) require that it be a GSM phone so you can use the new carriers SIM card. The X2 is a CDMA phone, and they don't make a GSM version. I'm curious how you got it working, because Verizon is driving me nuts and I'm looking to switch.
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I did a ton of research on trying to bring my X2 to a prepaid network, and on all the networks I checked it couldn't be done. Then again I've never heard of Page Plus so maybe they can. I looked at Simple Mobile, Boost, and Straight Talk and they all require a GSM phone if you want to bring in your own.
page plus resell only verizon services. so cdma only.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/default.aspx
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/364-Page-Plus-Cellular
I think your phone has to be rooted for this to work
I'm on page plus too. Root isn't needed nor any flashing involved. Just activate on their site or call in. Doesn't even need clear esn.
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Mickyyy said:
I'm on page plus too. Root isn't needed nor any flashing involved. Just activate on their site or call in. Doesn't even need clear esn.
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Thats awesome. Thought I was going to have to ditch the x2.
Running mine on page plus with no issues
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Can confirm dx2 on page plus no flashing needed but I do think it has to have a clear ESN.
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Can confirm dx2 on page plus no flashing needed but I do think it has to have a clear ESN.
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I was told they don't use Verizon blacklists so the esn doesn't matter.could be wrong though!
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Will confirm that tomorrow have a bad esn phone coming in.
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I'm on page plus too with the DX2. been with them for 4 years. No root or flash needed, just a clean ESN.
I was able to get PagePlus working on it...thanks for all the replies.
I use my x2 on prepaid and I pay $95 a month and I have unlimited data.
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I'm on page plus too. Root isn't needed nor any flashing involved. Just activate on their site or call in. Doesn't even need clear esn.
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Definitely has to have a clean esn in order for any vzw device to be on PagePlus.
I gave my X2 to my roommate so he could set it up with page plus. He's coming from straight talk. They couldn't get the X2 to activate. Do you guys think the problem could be from the X2 or more likely from somewhere else?
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Ok..was playing around with apns on my phone today. I was able to receive but not send. I'm now able to receive and send on the stock app for messaging on ICS.
THIS IS FOR STOCK ROM BUT LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS ON CUSTOM ROMS OR JB. I'm currently using 4.0.4 while i did this on a stock ROM.
So here is what you need to
1. Dial ##program & then enter the spc(all zero)
2. Go to the apn control then select apn config edit.
3. Then select the apn called ALU TEST SIM INTERNET.
4.you don't need to change all the other settings just do this.
MMSC=http://mms.mycricket.com/servlets/mms
MMS PROXY = wap.mycricket.com
MMS PORT =8080
5. Press menu then save. Now restart phone.
You should now have working (send/receive) mms on the stock Android app for ICS.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS WORKS FOR YOU ON JB OR CUSTOM ROMS. THIS IS ON THE STOCK ROM.
Also found out editing the ALU CBS apn with the same above helps also.
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Google Voice
what is apns? I'm looking to do this same thing with google voice?
APN is what allows you to connect to the network. it connects the MMS for you. Someone else might have a better explanation but thats mine..lol.
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what is apns? I'm looking to do this same thing with google voice?
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It would be awesome if this can be figured out... since Verizon has locked out GSM, I can't use my Straight Talk service anymore (sad, considering that most other phones would come with US unlocked) and I really don't want to pay over 100 bucks a month for Verizon...
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It would be awesome if this can be figured out... since Verizon has locked out GSM, I can't use my Straight Talk service anymore (sad, considering that most other phones would come with US unlocked) and I really don't want to pay over 100 bucks a month for Verizon...
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Didn't know you could use gsm on the RAZR? I'm using the xt912 version. So far i know this works on atleast 4 different RAZR phones I've tested. 2 of mine and 2 people from the cricket store where my friends work. Both mine are on stock roms, 1 from the store was on stock and the other was on an Eclipse rom. Looks promising but I'm not Gunna count my chickens until i know for sure this is a good workaround.
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Didn't know you could use gsm on the RAZR? I'm using the xt912 version. So far i know this works on atleast 4 different RAZR phones I've tested. 2 of mine and 2 people from the cricket store where my friends work. Both mine are on stock roms, 1 from the store was on stock and the other was on an Eclipse rom. Looks promising but I'm not Gunna count my chickens until i know for sure this is a good workaround.
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XT912 is locked out of using US GSM but overseas works fine with a microSIM.
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XT912 is locked out of using US GSM but overseas works fine with a microSIM.
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Didn't know that..lol. Maybe I'm lost also but how would this help with unlocking it?
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Didn't know that..lol. Maybe I'm lost also but how would this help with unlocking it?
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It doesn't but it gives me a cheaper option than Verizon for service if I can't wrangle in my minute usage and keep it under 450 anytime... lol. I was just pointing out that if I had (insert almost any other Verizon 4G LTE phone here), I would be able to keep my 45 dollar StraightTalk plan and use one of their microSIM cards... Getting MMS working on Cricket on the RAZR would give me a slightly cheaper option than Verizon but more expensive than my StraightTalk was.
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It doesn't but it gives me a cheaper option than Verizon for service if I can't wrangle in my minute usage and keep it under 450 anytime... lol. I was just pointing out that if I had (insert almost any other Verizon 4G LTE phone here), I would be able to keep my 45 dollar StraightTalk plan and use one of their microSIM cards... Getting MMS working on Cricket on the RAZR would give me a slightly cheaper option than Verizon but more expensive than my StraightTalk was.
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Ooh..i get ya. Yea well unless someone here helps out its Gunna be a slow process. I can only do this when my friends at the cricket store get a RAZR in to flash.
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anyone else got this working this way?