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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
Thanks and regards
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Sadly, there is no FM Radio, however, I cannot coment on the others because I have not checked them out.
FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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No it isn't implemented I think because of its huge size need bigger vibrator
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another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I think the galaxy tab playback is much better, at least out of the box. All of those codecs and such are built in and the player itself is much better!
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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And, the nice thing is that Samsung got their Hummingbird SoC DivX HD certified which means it can play mkv files natively out of the box as long as they are encoded to within blu-ray spec (no higher than level 4.1 for 1080p video).
But, the Flyer is no slouch when it comes to 720p video and it looks great on the 7" display. You can always use Handbrake or DVDCatalyst to reconvert video unless your computer isn't powerful enough to do so.
The dual-core Snapdragon is able to do 1080p playback as vague as that sounds.
I recently aquired the Flyer and I'm really dissapointed with the playback functionality. All of the 720p-res videoclips I've tried are choppy as hell (using Mobo, since the stock player is crap). It doesn't even play some .avi-files! Do I need to tweak something?
Have you tried Real Player? I have more or less tried just about every player in the market and have found RP to be the best.
Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
Thank's guys for your tips on video players! I'll try them out.
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Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
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Dice player is awesome! Good tip! Well worth 3$ or so.
Has anyone tried playing any HD MKV's through the Rezound? If so, does it handle it better than Tegra 2 and utilize the screen well?
i've got a bunch of 720P .mkv files i've tried out. for the most part they play fine, but occasionally there's a slight "out-of-sync" issue. it seems the 2 best apps to use for playing these files are Dice Player and MX Video Player. the weird thing is, sometimes when a sync issue occurs, for instance if it's in MX, i'll try playing in Dice instead and it'll play fine... but there's times it'll happen the other way around to. of course, considering that the OS isn't really designed to take advantage of multi-core CPU's + the b.s. Sense & bloatware on the phone don't help either.
I have seen the same type of files play on the Galaxy Nexus as well(but through the stock player) and the GN had similiar issues as well though.. so... hmmm.. !!
Theyplay fine with moBo player for me
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What's your video properties? I just tried to play Transformers: Dark of the Moon and it stutter forever.
I saw the videos in the gallery that come preloaded on the device and they look amazing. I want to be able to take my HD MKV's and have then look good and play as fluid as the pre-loaded ones. Any suggestions for that or conversion?
There is a vlc media player beta floating around in the nook color threads. It works pretty fing good, mobo seems to do the job as well. I have found that it depends on how, or what it was encoded with. I will try and post a link to the vlc file in awhile. Good luck.
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ok here's one that'll play slightly "out-of-sync":
Regular Show - 309 - House Rules (720p).mkv
MPEG4 video (.H264)
1280x720 23.98fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch
Any video players with tegra 3 support?
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BIG EARS!!
Bsplayer in hw(Bsplayer engine), mode works great.
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I have found, at least with my media collection, that Diceplayer works better across all types of codec configurations.
I normally use BsPlayer, since it has built in samba client and therefore no need to use ex file explorer to start dice player. If BsPlayer does not cut it, then I switch to Diceplayer.
Mx video player does not currently decode all formats i hardware on the prime, so wait a little while with that.
I am finding the default video player after the ICS update to be quite capable. Haven't had to download any codecs, or anything.
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I am finding the default video player after the ICS update to be quite capable. Haven't had to download any codecs, or anything.
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Yes, I also have been impressed by the built in player but it has had problems with playing audio on many of my files.
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I don't believe there are any of yet. I currently use Dice Player which has played 99% of my videos on HW. For the other 1%, MX Player seems to have the fastest SW decoder. I know Dice has a Tegra 2 plugin (tried it on my Prime to no avail). I wouldn't be surprised if we see Tegra 3 optimized decoding before long. I can't imagine it would be too difficult to do, but since Tegra 3 is so new, there just haven't been any attempts yet.
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Yes, I also have been impressed by the built in player but it has had problems with playing audio on many of my files.
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I agree. The video playback is much better but do not have sound on many MKV 720p high profile. DICE Player is the best for me so far with BS Player second.
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I am finding the default video player after the ICS update to be quite capable. Haven't had to download any codecs, or anything.
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I find that the default ICS player is bugged out. Instead of a menu for play,pause and stuff it just shows colored squares (looks like my screen is melting form the inside out) and is obviously bugged out, it doesn't play half the stuff dice player does.
mx player has been treating me the best since I can select hardware or software for the video and the audio separately, allowing me to play 1080p videos and for those that the audio isn't working I can select software decoding of audio. Also MX player is so far the only player that has been handling multiple audio tracks and multiple subtitle tracks well.
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OK, sorry, I stand corrected. Just tried out an .mkv on the built-in player which gave no sound at all! Ugghh...
i no this is a bit random
does any one how i can open the default layer app without going through gallery, because am having problem finding my video files through the numerous files on the gallery, thanks
Use the videos app and select the option for personal videos on the top left tab
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No players are perfect, I keep four players and usually one of them will work.
I thought there wouldn't be a problem playing any video with this device. Disappointed it's such a pain in the ass.
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No players are perfect, I keep four players and usually one of them will work.
I thought there wouldn't be a problem playing any video with this device. Disappointed it's such a pain in the ass.
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Same thong here. These are like browsers. You have to keep an arsenal of them just in case one isn't cutting it. I have MX player, dice player, n mobo player
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Use the videos app and select the option for personal videos on the top left tab
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in the applist their is no video app, i can only open video app by clicking on a video in gallery, and while using it this way he video app dont appear in recent app???
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I thought there wouldn't be a problem playing any video with this device. Disappointed it's such a pain in the ass.
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Which videos are not playing with Dice or BSPlayer?
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Which videos are not playing with Dice or BSPlayer?
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Everything is playing, but not everything is playing well. I still get some lag and audio problems with 1080p mkvs.
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Everything is playing, but not everything is playing well. I still get some lag and audio problems with 1080p mkvs.
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Can you upload a sample? I have different kind of mkvs and i have no problem.
There are a few encoding settings with make problems (like 10bit) but overall i didn't found many h.264 mkv videos which are not playing.
As the Razr Cannot play all formats like the Galaxy S which i previously Owned , Right now i am using the MX Video Player which plays all format but it sometimes cant play the bigger with ease , the fps seems to be low and not smooth.i.e there no smoothness in running video..I know a Dual Core Phone should handle big video files with ease.So is there problem in the App or are there any alternatives ?
For Examples If i am playing a 700mb AVI file it seems to be little laggy :|
I've played bigger files that are in the range of 1.7 GB each and they're smooth using Software Decoder (Fast mode).
I believe it's got something to do with the decoding and isn't an issue with the phone itself. Compatibility is a major pain for Android.
Edit: Used MX Player for the above. I've tested out others and MX Player seems to be the best for now. No codecs installed too.
I might be wrong but I believe that the galaxy s supports more formats natively than the razr (and transformer). I was testing some videos I had on my transformer tablets (on the razr) and discovered the stock player could not handle them (black screen with audio) so I gave mx a try and it was handling the decoding in software. These streams are relatively low resolution (dvds) with different encodings (mp4, mp2, ...) and different containers (avi, h.264, ...).
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I could see that with higher resolutions there might be issue with the software encoding. Also, you might check the bit-rate your sd card can handle (or try using internal storage) if there is stuttering (i.e, the issue might be read-rate as well as software decoding).
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Anyways the two players I have traditionally used (beyond stock) are mobo and mx. I generally favor mx (which you had issues).
Yez if not MX, then use mobo, software playback seems smoother in mobo player.
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I use MX and its great. Super smooth.
I like the finger swipe to fast forward/rewind and the zoom feature
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I've played bigger files that are in the range of 1.7 GB each and they're smooth using Software Decoder (Fast mode).
I believe it's got something to do with the decoding and isn't an issue with the phone itself. Compatibility is a major pain for Android.
Edit: Used MX Player for the above. I've tested out others and MX Player seems to be the best for now. No codecs installed too.
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Yea right The MX Video Player With S/W Decoding Enabled Everything runs smooth be it in fast mode or not .
Now i can play bigger files with ease. Damn i need to work hard to get acquainted with motorola. Used Galaxy S for 2 yrs
MxPlayer the best
720p on S/W (not fast) runs very smooth RAZR natively supports 1080p .mp4 files, mxplayer has much trouble with playing it in S/W mode. But in H/W runs great
So can RAZR play xVid/AVI format files natively? (like my Samsung Fascinate can). I am assuming if not the MX player mentioned above can????
MX certainly plays AVI fine on my Fascinate. I used to have Act 1 video player on my Droid (1).
Drooling over RAZR MAXX!
I'm using MX player ans so far everything i've tried running, runs without any problems including subtitles.
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I've been using buzzplayer, it seems to handle almost anything, and it can stream video from SMB shares.
I've always used MoboPlayer. Not come across much it couldn't play.
I didn't like MX.. I use mVideoPlayer. Works great. Can't explain why it's so much better. Just try it out and see. It's all preference though.
Mobo here. No complaints.
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I'm trying MX out right now and it's struggling to load my .avi files. Does it just take a long time to start? I know the files are good because I used them on my Droid 2.
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I didn't like MX.. I use mVideoPlayer. Works great. Can't explain why it's so much better. Just try it out and see. It's all preference though.
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went to market to try it and not there... for fascinate anyway (which I am still on)
Hi,
I am trying to find out following: I would like to find out if I can use Galaxy Tab 10.1 to play video on my HDTV (Full HD via HDMI adapter). However almost all the apps that I have seen seem to produce dropped frames or problems with sync with audio/video during playback for number of mkv/mp4/avi media files. Only few full HD videos played properly while most of 720p/1080p had poor playback. So I am looking for an advice:
1) Will updating to ICS/JB (now only custom roms available) as compared to original HC help with video playback?
2) Are there any apps that you found that can play most of full hd videos? Friend of mine have tried almost all the popular ones but could not get any of them to play properly most of the full HD videos?
3) Will overclocking help with decoding? I saw several posts that indicate that some custom roms support overclocking. In some cases I got SW based playback to give almost good playback (HW based decoding did not work in all cases).
4) What is proper approach for mounting external drives that are in formats such as NTFS/exFAT? I am looking at this as some files might be bigger then 4GB limit of FAT32.
5) Is there a device that I can stream to 1080p from Galaxy Tab 10.1? Of course assuming that Galaxy Tab 10.1 can stream 1080p...
6) Do you have any other advice?
Kind regards,
Bo
This device does not have the processing power to play back most HD videos smoothly. By most videos I mean the HD x264 mkv/mp4 files which people watch these days. Overclocking will help but it's not guaranteed to make it play most HD videos smoothly.
Now there will be posts saying "Well I can play HD videos on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 just fine". This may be true but these people are likely not watching sufficiently high bitrate content that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 can't handle. On top of that they probably have overclocked the device as well.
Don't forget the term HD has become a broader and broader definition. So one person saying they have no problems with HD playback could be referring to HD Youtube app videos which are crap quality. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 can most definitely play this content just fine. On the other hand this device will struggle with most of the x264 HD television and movie files. The truth is most of the decent HD content out there today is beyond the capability of this device aside from the low bitrate and low quality stuff.
This device will not suit your needs if you plan on watching HD x264 mkvs or mp4 TV / movie files. You will not be able to play most of these files without having to re-encode them. I don't use any of the streaming services so I can't comment on that. Maybe it does work fine with Netflix, Hulu or what have you.
Decatf hits all of the key points. For taking HD content with you to play back anywhere your best bet is going to be encoding your files in such a way as to ensure smooth playback. You can play back 720p files that are encoded with the proper settings (basically as has been said the decoding capability of the Tegra 2 is limited) but don't expect to play back any HD file you download off the net perfectly. There are threads on the forum that talk about the proper settings in Handbrake to ensure smooth playback.
I haven't tried it but for playback at home perhaps a WD Live Media Hub would be a suitable companion whereby you control the device using their remote control application available in the Play store. Reviews on both the app and the device itself seem to be hit and miss so I'd carefully weigh them given your circumstances before buying (for example some reviews state that NAS support of the WD Live Hub is not great).
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Only thing you have to be careful in case of h264 files is that they MUST be encoded in Baseline profile. This is a limit of Tegra 2!... I play very smoothly Full HD mp4 movies with this setting. In order to check the profile level, you can use the tool MEDIAINFO you can download freely from Internet.
Bo... said:
Hi,
I am trying to find out following: I would like to find out if I can use Galaxy Tab 10.1 to play video on my HDTV (Full HD via HDMI adapter). However almost all the apps that I have seen seem to produce dropped frames or problems with sync with audio/video during playback for number of mkv/mp4/avi media files. Only few full HD videos played properly while most of 720p/1080p had poor playback. So I am looking for an advice:
1) Will updating to ICS/JB (now only custom roms available) as compared to original HC help with video playback?
2) Are there any apps that you found that can play most of full hd videos? Friend of mine have tried almost all the popular ones but could not get any of them to play properly most of the full HD videos?
3) Will overclocking help with decoding? I saw several posts that indicate that some custom roms support overclocking. In some cases I got SW based playback to give almost good playback (HW based decoding did not work in all cases).
4) What is proper approach for mounting external drives that are in formats such as NTFS/exFAT? I am looking at this as some files might be bigger then 4GB limit of FAT32.
5) Is there a device that I can stream to 1080p from Galaxy Tab 10.1? Of course assuming that Galaxy Tab 10.1 can stream 1080p...
6) Do you have any other advice?
Kind regards,
Bo
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Try overclocking the tab. A1 Kernel for example, has a bit GPU overclock and you can set CPU at 1,6GHz, try it at this freq and performance-cfq (governor-iosched) temporally.
Try the hw + option in Mx player
As per below in Mx player.
How to play HiDef movies/video on the Tab 10.1:
Install Handbrake
Download and install XOOM profile found here
https://sites.google.com/a/dibona.com/www/www/filestorage
or this one:
http://jccorporation.net/downloads/All 720p HD.plist
Rencode with this profile
Play
(rince, repeat)
Yeah as the above posts mentioned... It is the limitation of the tegra processor. I use my tab for watching movies. I had the same problem with the hd videos. Spending so much for a device like this and it wasn't able to play a good hd video.
Now I'm using Cm10 jelly bean build. Seriously man this is serious sh*t. Now I'm able to play almost all the 720p videos and this is more than enough for me. When a 1080p comes, I just avoid it....
Try flashing the jb rom. But with the latest build, you won't be getting the mic to work.
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4) What is proper approach for mounting external drives that are in formats such as NTFS/exFAT? I am looking at this as some files might be bigger then 4GB limit of FAT32.
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for NTFS you can use Ntfs Mounter, which can also mount Ext2/3/4 partitions on your tablet. You can also use Paragon NTFS & HFS+ or some other app to mount NTFS partitions but I don't remember the name
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Yeah as the above posts mentioned... It is the limitation of the tegra processor. I use my tab for watching movies. I had the same problem with the hd videos. Spending so much for a device like this and it wasn't able to play a good hd video.
Now I'm using Cm10 jelly bean build. Seriously man this is serious sh*t. Now I'm able to play almost all the 720p videos and this is more than enough for me. When a 1080p comes, I just avoid it....
Try flashing the jb rom. But with the latest build, you won't be getting the mic to work.
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Yes, it is the limitation of the tegra processor, so the solution could be, as I said in previous post, in freeing the limitation by overclocking the tab. 1,6GHz with performance governor youtube HD videos works fine.
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Yes, it is the limitation of the tegra processor, so the solution could be, as I said in previous post, in freeing the limitation by overclocking the tab. 1,6GHz with performance governor youtube HD videos works fine.
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Is it that worth to over clock the tab to 1.6 GHz just to watch a video? Long overclocking can the fry the chipsets ryt? 1.6 GHz is bit too much for the tab and battery to handle I think when combined with online streaming of YouTube HD videos.....
Just felt so...
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kishorsidu said:
Is it that worth to over clock the tab to 1.6 GHz just to watch a video? Long overclocking can the fry the chipsets ryt? 1.6 GHz is bit too much for the tab and battery to handle I think when combined with online streaming of YouTube HD videos.....
Just felt so...
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I have my tab overclocked to 1,4 24h since 2 years ago with no burning or smoking problems. When i need puntually more performance as reading ebooks or pdfs, or playing some games, i set to 1,6 woth no problems.
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Thread resurrection!
Is there a way I can get the tab to change the max cpu when I load YouTube and then drop back afterwards ? Maybe by using tasker or similar?
It's a real pain to keep manually changing the cpu speed.