Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
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Figures are not definitive but just a observation. I have a friend who is a district manager for a few Sprint stores in the Tri-State area of PA, DE & NJ where I live. Not corporate stores, but those authorized retail stores. A few of his stores reside in some of the more popular shopping malls in the area. Anyway I was at one of the stores yesterday picking up a new battery for my Epic & I asked how the 3D was selling compared to the Evo 4G & he said they weren't selling anywhere close to how the OG Evo did last year. Not even that many people coming in asking for it. He said a couple of the stores still had original stock from release day, where as last year they couldn't keep them in any of the stores. He also said that he has seen more returns for the phone also. Not for the locked bootloader but other reasons. So that magic number of 10%, that people around here keep tossing around as the percentage of people who actually want a unlocked bootloader may be actually higher when you factor in that the phone isn't selling like Sprint/HTC thought. Like I said in the begining, none of this is definitive, just a observation from a friend who is in the know, at least at the 10 or more stores he oversees.
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I dont think the bootloader has much if anything to do with it. The reason is simple really.. when the Evo came out last year it was the first and only of its kind. There werent any other 4G phones out with the massive screen. It took the other carriers a while to catch up but now you have Tmobile with its own Sensation, Verizon with its own Thunderbolt, Charge, Iphone and soon to be Bionic. AT&T with its own Infuse, Inspire, Atrix, Captivate, etc. So the Evo doesnt really have anywhere near as much luster now as it did a year ago. Add to that the fact that a ton of people are still locked into contracts and there's your answer.
I knew they didnt expect sales to be big when they allowed employees to get the phone only 3 days after it released so im really not surprised and I dont think they are either.
If anyone actually thought the 3d would sell better then the og EVO is dilusional.
The 3d wasn't as heavily marketed and hyped like the OG EVO also. And yea the EVO was first of its kind.
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I dont think the bootloader has much if anything to do with it. The reason is simple really.. when the Evo came out last year it was the first and only of its kind. There werent any other 4G phones out with the massive screen. It took the other carriers a while to catch up but now you have Tmobile with its own Sensation, Verizon with its own Thunderbolt, Charge, Iphone and soon to be Bionic. AT&T with its own Infuse, Inspire, Atrix, Captivate, etc. So the Evo doesnt really have anywhere near as much luster now as it did a year ago. Add to that the fact that a ton of people are still locked into contracts and there's your answer.
I knew they didnt expect sales to be big when they allowed employees to get the phone only 3 days after it released so im really not surprised and I dont think they are either.
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I totally agree. Back then the Droid and EVO where really the only ones that stood out...now the rest of the others played catch up, and the field is scattered with selection of phones that are nearly identical to the OG EVO. Now we have a huge selection of them AND we still have the OG EVO. Sales are good..nbut not nearly the amount of the original. Also...how many really have the cash to upgrade. If they do not have full upgrade? I mean...contracts are 2 years and many of them still have another year or so to go. I still have mine left with 14. Months to go. I paid cash for. mine and after I sell my OG EVO still cost me money. But I did not use a upgrade..beings I do not have one. My 2 cents worth
The EVO was under produced. That's why everyone was sold out...
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I hate to finally admit it, but my 2 3D's are going back tonight. I love the phone, We are taking them back simply because the data from Sprint in the Buffalo area is unusable - Web pages take minutes to load, cant stream radio, etc ...
All Sprint can tell me locally is 4G towers should be up by the end of the year - but by that point Ill be locked into a contract and if they fail to upgrade, Ill be stuck.
I hate that the return will reflect on the phone due to a return, but its not the phone in our case.
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I totally agree. Back then the Droid and EVO where really the only ones that stood out...now the rest of the others played catch up, and the field is scattered with selection of phones that are nearly identical to the OG EVO. Now we have a huge selection of them AND we still have the OG EVO. Sales are good..nbut not nearly the amount of the original. Also...how many really have the cash to upgrade. If they do not have full upgrade? I mean...contracts are 2 years and many of them still have another year or so to go. I still have mine left with 14. Months to go. I paid cash for. mine and after I sell my OG EVO still cost me money. But I did not use a upgrade..beings I do not have one. My 2 cents worth
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Sprint would have given you an upgrade if you would have asked for one.
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Don't forget that alot of evo4g users are in a 2yr contract and probably weren't aware of the option to upgrade to the 3d for a limited time. Also the evo4g may be enough phone for a lot of people as well.
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Consider also the fact that those who got the 4G are still on the 2 year contract. Those who actually lurk these boards may have taken advantage of the upgrade reset.
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Sprint would have given you an upgrade if you would have asked for one.
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I did....many, many times...at corporate stores..private ones and online. Then I figured...it was not worth to lose it. And the upgrade was just as expensive as to purchase one...400 for the evo 3d..subtract 250 for my old evo...150 dollars. I started with sprint nov of last year. 150 was just right to get me in.
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Don't forget that alot of evo4g users are in a 2yr contract and probably weren't aware of the option to upgrade to the 3d for a limited time. Also the evo4g may be enough phone for a lot of people as well.
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My thoughts exactly.
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I hate to finally admit it, but my 2 3D's are going back tonight. I love the phone, We are taking them back simply because the data from Sprint in the Buffalo area is unusable - Web pages take minutes to load, cant stream radio, etc ...
All Sprint can tell me locally is 4G towers should be up by the end of the year - but by that point Ill be locked into a contract and if they fail to upgrade, Ill be stuck.
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Where are you having trouble with the service? I moved from Buffalo not too long ago and I got great service from Sprint there. I used to live just off Hertel near Military and never had any issues. Really the only places that I didn't get good service were east of the zoo, and out past Amherst.
Anyway, on topic... Of course they didn't sell as well, as everyone else has stated, they just aren't as "wow" as they were last year. Many people also just simply don't have the full upgrade yet, and aren't willing to pay the extra money.
Your friend who is in the know? Lol. Does he go around to the stores? Or does he just tell the managers what to do? Try asking someone who spends a lot of time in the stores...
I have to disagree on some of those points. I never said the bootloader had anything to do with it. I said that the supposed number of 10% of people who want a unlocked bootloader is a lot larger when you figure in that the phone hasn't sold a lot of units. I don't think people being locked into contracts had much to do with it. The Hero and Moment were big sellers and a lot of people upgraded from those phones to the Evo which came out barely a year later. (Hero - Oct. '09/Moment - Nov. '09/Evo 4G - June '10) And if you don't think that HTC/Sprint anticipated this being a big seller you are being foolish. What company doesn't bank on following a successful phone with another one? You think Apple goes into production assuming that the next iPhone isn't gonna sell at least the same amount if not more than the previous version? If that was the case why spend the money to develop and put in a new processor, GPU, screen, 3D camera, more RAM....Why even call it the Evo? You include all of those new features and call it the Evo hoping to bank on the name and success of the OG Evo IMO. I mean I'm no business major but that sounds like good business to me.
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Your friend who is in the know? Lol. Does he go around to the stores? Or does he just tell the managers what to do? Try asking someone who spends a lot of time in the stores...
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Actually he does a lot of travelling. I usually call or text him when I have a problem to see which store he is gonna be in and what time. If he is gonna be out of the area he usually lets the tech/sales person at the store nearest to me to expect my visit.
this is true bc i was conversing, friendly btw, with the girl at the sprint store i went to. long story short, i asked about reservation amounts. She said the Evo tore this phone apart in first day sales, not even close. Anyways to add a funny note, she goes okay im going to update your phone with this OTA. Im like no i dont want it thank you. Shes like why are you going to root it? I was like oh man if only my girl was interested in this stuff lol, na jk. But it was pretty cool to meet someone like that.
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Actually he does a lot of travelling. I usually call or text him when I have a problem to see which store he is gonna be in and what time. If he is gonna be out of the area he usually lets the tech/sales person at the store nearest to me to expect my visit.
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I need a friend at a Sprint store. Any Sprint employee's in NC want to be my friend
So he doesn't sell... he does a lot of traveling... spends his time in a care or whatever he uses to travel. He looks at reports and goes around to make sure people are in uniform, the stores are clean and addresses any concerns with employees. I'd say less than 10% even know what a bootloader is... you're wrong, he's wrong, stupid thread that has nothing to do with anything. You just think you're right because you think he's "in the know"... Come on now...
There are more returns on the 3D? False.
4G outsold the 3D in mass numbers? True.
So let's say 30 - Evo 4G's were sold in a month and let's estimate that there is a 1 in 9 return rate... do you're at approximately... 3. So around 10%...
Let's say 10 - Evo 3D's sold in a month... and to be honest, I'm making these numbers up. But I can personally say that I've never seen one returned... So that makes it 0%. Maybe 1 might be returned in the next week and a half... but there's nothing proving that there are more returns...
No one in this thread, including myself has provided any sources for numbers. Everyone is pulling numbers out their asses.
Not a single 3D has been returned at the store I work at. That's a actual number. 0.
How many went out, I can't say. But I can say release day stock was sold out and fulfilled by pre-orders within a hour of store opening.
We've been lucky to keep 1-2 in stock.
I am considering going and trading in my Evo for an Evo 3D with Sprints buy back program. I saw that it will be $49.99 after trade in. Is there anything I should know if I go do this? Should I ask them not to update then phone when I go? Just wondering because I know that the new Evos have updated 2.3.3 on them and there is no root yet.
Any advice would be appreciated.
What are you waiting for, get to it. The phone is a BEAST.
The phone comes with 2.3.3 and regardless you can only get temp root, the minor update won't change or block that. Devs are working on a permanent root & S-off solution that might be available in the next few weeks.
Just go & get it
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I would recommended you to upgrade. If you want you can try selling your evolution yourself over Craigslist for example and get some more money. One thing I would strongly recommend is buying your new phone at the sprint store, I have seen many minor flaws on those, probably because they are new (dead pixels 3g speeds and other issues) if you buy at a sprint store it will probably be easier for you to exchange it within your 30 days then online retailers, or lets say radio shack. Just from my experience though.
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I just did this yesterday and I am glad I did, this phone is awesome. Also, they said that they are not sure how long the buyback will be at that price so if you are thinking about it, go for it.
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Definitely worth it. Even if you dont care for the 3d, the hardware upgrade is worth the 50 bucks.
I was one of those people upgrading for the hardware coming from a Hero and thought of the 3D capabilities as a "gimmick." But NOW, I enjoy simply browsing YouTube for any 3D videos. Awesome technology
When I noticed that my girls speedy was doing circles around my evo when we both had cm7 I knew then It was time. On stock this phone pwns the speedy and the supersonic.
I would also recommend the upgrade.... And don't listen to the trolls.... There always something about a device that u may not agree with.... None of of em are perfect..... But id say go for it.....
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Love my 3vo. From my cold, dead hands.
I am in the same situation. The main thing holding me back is that I keep hearing that the call quality is no good. I think I can get used to the lack of kickstand, although that little feature of the 4G has really grown on me.
Can anyone give a real evaluation of the call quality? It is a phone, after all.
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I am in the same situation. The main thing holding me back is that I keep hearing that the call quality is no good. I think I can get used to the lack of kickstand, although that little feature of the 4G has really grown on me.
Can anyone give a real evaluation of the call quality? It is a phone, after all.
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no doubt about it man..The call quality isn't the greatest but I think im getting used to it..It is still a phone and performs fine but for the amount of $ we spend on these phones I would have expected something better(call quality)..Still a fantastic phone for me though.
I would hold off until they get an updated line out. There are a bunch of issues it seems with version 0001 and 0002. Just my thoughts after doing a ton of research
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I have been through a few phones now..think uneasy a victim of a bad batch..I got one now from a different shipment and its great ..hardware 002 but there are noticeable differences..the power button is more tactile and I have no problem with call quality..most of my complaints are with the network not the phone
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I have been through a few phones now..think uneasy a victim of a bad batch..I got one now from a different shipment and its great ..hardware 002 but there are noticeable differences..the power button is more tactile and I have no problem with call quality..most of my complaints are with the network not the phone
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id be inclined to say its the network but when i have an OG Evo and an Evo 3D together making the same calls the Evo 3D is a lot worse in call quality..It is the phone but I think its how the phone handles the network its connected to...Its not horrible but its also not what it should be.
i mean seriously,why when making a call does the ring volume fluctuate? Loud for 1 ring then a lot lower on the second ring,then back to loud for the 3rd ring...I think this can be fixed with a software update to the phone.
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id be inclined to say its the network but when i have an OG Evo and an Evo 3D together making the same calls the Evo 3D is a lot worse in call quality..It is the phone but I think its how the phone handles the network its connected to...Its not horrible but its also not what it should be.
i mean seriously,why when making a call does the ring volume fluctuate? Loud for 1 ring then a lot lower on the second ring,then back to loud for the 3rd ring...I think this can be fixed with a software update to the phone.
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Now every one of.my e3d has that fluctuating ringer for reason ..it doesn't do that during the calls though.
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I am considering going and trading in my Evo for an Evo 3D with Sprints buy back program. I saw that it will be $49.99 after trade in. Is there anything I should know if I go do this? Should I ask them not to update then phone when I go? Just wondering because I know that the new Evos have updated 2.3.3 on them and there is no root yet.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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At that price you should do it. There is a temp root out.
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I've never done a trade in so I don't know that once you do its done or you can switch back. If you can't switch back I would find a friend that owns one. Ask to swap phone for one day. It's hard to tell if everyone's problems will become one of yours. For me I can't stay connected to 4g for very long. I have a tower 2 blocks away and my 4g is 1 bar. 3g is 200kb or less. Better for you to see if that's an issue (or any others) for you before crossing the line and not being able to get your old phone back.
It is a great phone. It seems every day I find something new I like and something i don't. Definately a love hate thing going on for me. Ultimately its going to be, can you live with its flaws whatever it happens to be for you. Is it a deal breaker. And your not going to know before you leave the store.
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Hello,
I cannot think of a more cost effective upgrade in any arena than the worst case 50 Dollar difference for the 3D.
Even if you could care less about 3D, the aforementioned Dual Core Processors, far greater amounts of Internal Storage, DLNA Connectivity, etc really make it a no brainer.
If your 4G is in excellent condition and you have a decent number of Accessories, you could get far more than 150 by selling it on Craigslist. I got $300 Dollars for mine. I did include 2 Otterbox Defender Cases and an HTC HDMI Dock as well.
Even now, due to the guy I sold it to going to Sprint to Activate the 4G and walk out with 2 3D's instead, I have been helping to sell the 4G again and have someone ready to buy the 4G for 250 Dollars today.
Cheers,
JJ
OK... I'll be a data point. I got two on launch day. Both had crooked screens but the wife doesn't notice nor did she care when I pointed it out. So I left hers alone but my screen was the most crooked (actually to the point that the lower left corner was up under the blackout) so I exchanged it. We live in a fringe area where the phones typically bounce back and forth between a Sprint tower and roaming. My Evo 4G never once dropped a call in the year I owned it but my first 3vo (yes, that's the accepted name ) dropped a call a couple of times here at the house. I got maybe 1 drop in every 20-30 minutes here, so I categorized my new 3vo to be worse than the old Evo 4G at keeping a call. The new (exchanged on with straight screen) has had no dropped calls yet so it seems better.
And as for the actual call quality while you are in a call, I've never been quite sure what people are talking about because my Evo 4G was horrible for sound quality. The earpiece had the common earpiece rattle and the volume on the new 3vo is much louder. I actually think my calls are clearer with the 3vo than the old Evo 4G.
YMMV.
Mike
My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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The battery life is about middle ground as far as Android high end phones. You can get a full day out of it if you need/want to. The phone, IMHO, still has plenty of life left in it. It fits great in your hands. And watching 3D videos on YouTube is awesome. I know people will say it is/was a gimmick, but I completely disagree. It is just an extra feature on a phone that sets it apart from the other ones. I think once the iPhone comes out with 3D, everyone will rush to get one and other phone makers will make it a standard feature on all phones. It was just ahead of its time on the Evo 3D. With hardly any other phones to share 3D images with, it makes it hard to show off how awesome 3D images and videos are without being next to someone and showing them on your phone.
I can understand people wanting to have the next generation of bigger and better phones, but just because a newer model is out doesn't make the Evo 3D magically stop working or cease to have a dual core processor with 1GB of RAM...which still runs every app and game, still makes phone calls, and send texts with ease.
This may or may not affect you, but could...the Evo 3D uses WiMAX and will that network will still be support for a few years in places where it is operational. Such as my little city. I have WiMAX and I use it as if my life depends on it. Sure, I could get the newest phone with LTE, but until Sprint gets it in my city, I'm stuck with 3G. And once you go 4G you can't go back.
I vote get the Evo 3D. And enjoy! I know I have enjoyed mine and will continue to...I am eligible for an upgrade, but I'm not sure I can do it yet because I love this phone and 4G data.
-Ken
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It's a great phone at $100 off craigslist if you are already on sprint or can flash it somehow for another carrier. To pay $300 for it would be an incredible waste of money. Sprints wimax is worthless if you are moving and only ok if you are not. If your house is right next to a wimax tower you might be ok. I thought it has been said it has a few problems out of the box with sprints\virgins version of ics so be ready to flash\root it right away to make it work better. A lot of work for a $300 phone. The 3d part is really just a gimmick, kind of a add-on for the kiddies. These are the realities of this phone.http://voices.yahoo.com/3d-devices-smartphones-causing-headaches-eye-8858717.html
I love my Evo 3D now with ICS, but I wouldn't buy a new one now. Phones get old fast, your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest and it may last 2 years.
Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
Everybody gets the latest and greatest because that's how manufactures control the market. I don't think any other phone for this price is even comparable.
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The battery life is about middle ground as far as Android high end phones.
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Those must be the magical unicorn Android phones...
I'm averaging 50% remaining charge after ~36 hours with everything enabled except 4G. You can get 2 days out of the EVO V easily with Harmonia 3 (a cleaned up stock ROM):
http://www.vmroms.com/index.php?topic=157.0
I can't report on stock battery performance because frankly I rooted and installed Harmonia 3 about an hour after I got the phone.
Of the smartphones I've owned (Palm Pre, EVO 4G, Optimus V, Optimus Slider) and used, the EVO V is by far the best all around. This phone with a no-contract Virgin plan is just about perfect (for me).
I suspect those reporting atrocious battery life are leaving 4G on.
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Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
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There is a LOT of issues with flashing it to Virgin, he'd be better off flashing to Boost but regardless of which carrier it would involve cloning the MEID/ESN of a donor phone and I wouldn't suggest it unless you know a lot about phones and have a backup in case it takes you a while. It is worth it though even at $300, the specs are just as comparable to today's phones and over the time she would have the phone a couple of years it would have paid for itself several times in comparison to getting it on contract at a subsidized price. I would DEFINITELY suggest it, the phone's specs as I said are comparable to phones coming out today (even higher specs than some new phones) and whether or not it remains supported it'll still remain a good phone for a time to come.
Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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Not to hate on HTC... but I would wait for new galaxy to drop in price. I think that is going to be the best phone out this year and honestly you will be good for atleast 2 years.
Battery is amazing if you are using a MEAN rom. Otherwise, so/so. Also... I would say the biggest concern is the crappy hardware. You are taking a chance at having a blown earpiece or failing digitizer. These are common issues and I suffer from BOTH.
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Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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lol it does when the carrier doesn't allow flashing Work at radio shack? I've actually flashed phones so I know Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile blocks MEIDs/ESNs that are not in their database. It's not like flashing to Cricket or Metro PCS because of this fact. You could flash to Boost or Virgin without changing it but you won't be able to put it on your account Go to Virgin or Boost and just try and activate an account with an ESN/MEID not in their database, it won't work and customer service won't do it either lol (nor will they add it)
The only and I mean *only* way to get a non virgin or boost phone working on a virgin or boost account is by flashing and changing the ESN/MEID.
Also, I HAAAAATE when people say "I work for Radio Shack" or "I work for Best Buy Mobile" or "I work for geek squad" and use it to say (hey I'm an expert) not to diss on any of these (in fact I'm sure a lot of them are very good), but the vast majority of people I know at these jobs know very little and only know what's part of their official training etc. Again not all of them but pleeeaaassseee don't be so sure in something you obviously don't have experience in and giving a user HORRIBLE advise in which they will likely regret it if they try and follow it In fact you probably shouldn't give advice on a subject unless you've tried it (which you obviously haven't lol)
Since Sprint and HTC don't officially acknowledge the problem with switching and staying connected to "weak" LTE signals on the Evo, do you think they will ever release a fix? I am frustrated with the horrible 3G speeds in Houston while being in locations with a LTE signal - I sporadically connect to 4G at work and home but it never lasts.
I really like the EVO 4G LTE and various roms like MeanROM, but I am about to give up on Sprint due to not being able to use my phone except for on wi-fi (3G speeds often at 0.15 Mbps or below, only improving in the early to late evening). If the radio was at least fixed to properly connect to LTE then I could at least better evaluate the situation before calling it quits, but as it is right now I have no hope of ever using LTE on a consistent basis. The only reason I stayed with Sprint in the first place was knowing that Networkvision would go live in July that would supposedly improve 3G speeds and enable LTE. 3G speeds have nearly been unusable during mid mornings/afternoons for over a year now and NetworkVision didn't do anything for me yet.
for what i pay im happy with sprint
and ive experienced 4G at some parts here in the Bronx and its pretty fast to me
maybe its just your area. if i would ever switch i would go prepaid
Its more of a sprint issue, I have to do the airplane trick on all the lte phones in the house and as far as I know the gs3 and iPhone 5 don't have handoff issues like the evo does
This issue was known of before the phone was even released. Sprint has tried to fix it, according to their updates atleast, obviously it hasn't happened. At this point only time will tell. I wouldn't worry about it too much, if your that mad with sprint, switch carriers.
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cm10ed 3VO
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What lte issuws
cm10ed 3VO
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905007
Read this thread, it will explain pretty much everything there is, relating to LTE issues. It's been an on going problem since the phone was released. Trust me, no EVO LTE is exempt. The people that say they have no issues, haven't witnessed it first hand against another phone.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, if your that mad with sprint, switch carriers.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but if you did a little research, you would have known this phone was being released with LTE issues. It really just comes down to patience. Unfortunately, there are a few users that just can't grasp the concept of patience.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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You can easily go I'm and have it swapped out for an SGS3...many have done it...
And I dunno where you guys get the whole "...sprint and HTC don't acknowledge the problem..." as they have said its being worked on many times already and its still an open issue in their system... So please drop the bs speak like they are acting like it isn't an issue...they may not be doing a good job fixing it, but they have done anything BUT act like its a non issue..
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You can easily go I'm and have it swapped out for an SGS3...many have done it...
And I dunno where you guys get the whole "...sprint and HTC don't acknowledge the problem..." as they have said its being worked on many times already and its still an open issue in their system... So please drop the bs speak like they are acting like it isn't an issue...they may not be doing a good job fixing it, but they have done anything BUT act like its a non issue..
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Will they actually swap it out for me?
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but if you did a little research, you would have known this phone was being released with LTE issues. It really just comes down to patience. Unfortunately, there are a few users that just can't grasp the concept of patience.
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Well, since I bought my phone as a pre order, that would have been a bit difficult.
Not to be a ****, but I love when people think they know everybody's personal experience.
Sprint touted this phone as being an advanced LTE capable phone, and promised their network was just around the corner.
They then published a schedule stating that los Angeles would go live in September. After I bought it they changed to October. It's November. If not for xda, I still would not know LTE was even here yet.
My experience with AT&T does not leave me with much confidence Sprint would swap me out with a GN3, especially since I actually bought the thing from Wirefly.
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I preordered my Evo LTE and it was not well known at the time to have lte issues as no one even had the phone. And when it came out no LTE network went live until July. So how was I supposed to magically know to avoid this phone and wait 2 months for the Samsung s3?
Also Sprint isn't exactly acknowledging the lte issue, they certainly didn't do so when I called to complain. In fact all that has been offered so far is to exchange my phone for a refurb LTE which won't be any better and possibly worse. They weren't receptive to exchanging to a Samsung galaxy s3, they probably will only do so after a lot of effort and multiple exchanges of the evo for crappy refurbs. Even then I have no idea if the 4g network on Sprint is even worth the effort in my city as the evo doesn't give a proper representation of coverage.
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Will they actually swap it out for me?
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Go to a corp store and explain the issue show them in store the sgs3 with signal and urs without it if need be or possible... It might take them replacing ur EVO once before they do the swap for sgs3 but I've seen many do it easily.
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I preordered my Evo LTE and it was not well known at the time to have lte issues as no one even had the phone. And when it came out no LTE network went live until July. So how was I supposed to magically know to avoid this phone and wait 2 months for the Samsung s3?
Also Sprint isn't exactly acknowledging the lte issue, they certainly didn't do so when I called to complain. In fact all that has been offered so far is to exchange my phone for a refurb LTE which won't be any better and possibly worse. They weren't receptive to exchanging to a Samsung galaxy s3, they probably will only do so after a lot of effort and multiple exchanges of the evo for crappy refurbs. Even then I have no idea if the 4g network on Sprint is even worth the effort in my city as the evo doesn't give a proper representation of coverage.
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You called and spoke to an entry level CS rep.... You could call again and get them to tell you WiMAX rollout is going on still on your area...
It's documented on sprints side and many reps if they have a clue know exactly where to pull it up at stating such...
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It seems in areas where LTE is rolled out and covers well, the transfer or handoff works somewhat well. In areas where LTE isn't completely rolled out, the handoff fails at times, hence the airplane mode switch seems to work. Sprint acknowledged an issue with the handoff in their own forums. I will say, with the newest CMX, I have less issues than with any sense base, for me anyway the handoff almost works every time from LTE to 3G. just my opinion
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I'll sell the phone if it becomes an issue for me. I wouldn't even give a second thought to it. Since i have no LTE for most likely a very long time I will probably have moved onto my next device. I know s4gru says October for the first LTE sites in MN but I suspect they are way behind target of that. I did the whole toggle wimax garbage for two years with my evo shift. While it was more to save battery than for signal issues I don't want to do that again. I want my phone to work as it should without having to toggle stupid switches. Every time you do that you have to wait for the switch to take place and any data connection that is happening seems to get dropped and you have to reload.
I highly doubt Sprint will ever officially confirm the existence of the flaw because they can very easily blame it on the network. Since LTE will not be fully rolled out for a very long time I have a feeling the EVO LTE will be long in its grave by the time they would have to admit anything.
I've talked to many Sprint reps and beyond 1st level. I haven't found any reps that state the problem is known. I've called HTC, they state there is no problem and offer to check the phone (w/ a fee if no issue is found). The Sprint reps various choices of BS are that it's the new network or different phones handle it differently due to signal optimizations for balanced loading. I go to Houston quite a bit in the evenings and weekends now and see the issue all the time since there is usually an S3 user with me as well. Unfortunately I can't go to the Sprint store while I am there, so I take it to my corp store where I bought the phone. They tell me to take it to the repair store (affiliate), repair store shrugs their shoulders says its maybe the new network, laughs, thinks I'm nuts, tells me to take it to the corp store to get it swapped, and.... well you get the picture.
The evo lte i had gets no 4g and 56k 3g speed all the time. Chicago has no 4g yet. I got a Samsung galaxy s3, and rocking lte all over Chicago. Sprint lies and htc ffffed up this phone and wont admit it. But at least I got both phones for free.
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Your completely right. I'm in San Antonio and at first when lte was getting deployed I would get it sporadically, but now I get it constantly and its consistent.
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You guys that don't have problems, hang on to those phones and don't touch that firmware as you don't want to mess up the special firmware that HTC sent to your phone with the issue fixed.
Let me start off by saying I'm an EVO/HTC fan, and not an employee of HTC or Sprint...
After years of no 4g for Original EVO, 3D and now the LTE in a large city in South Florida, I finally get fed up enough to call HTC USA, because if I'm not getting 4g, I at least want to JB. After stopping several support individuals and managers from reading from their script, I finally got an answer that floored me. Do to the different processor and chipset in our phone, HTC has not even released a JB source to Sprint. While the agent was VERY careful to never use the word NEVER, he basically said they have no current plans to release JB for the dual core USA/Sprint model, which is why we were left off the upgrade list in the first place.
Other models of the One series have already received at least a prep download for JB. If Sprint doesn't at least have the initial download to prepare our phone for JB, it doesn't look too good for us.
I think Sprint and HTC have no intention to release JB to us, and we need to accept it. I hope I'm wrong, but it was the most info I have ever received from HTC.
Lucy, you have some splaning to do!
They find the MSM8960 different? The rep may have stopped reading his "script", but may have made up a new 1.
I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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there currently is LTE coverage in the Lauderdale area according to Sensorly. The airport is covered in it, sections of I-95, Broadview Park. Just give it time, deployment isn't that quick.
I keep saying the Evo LTE is still a different product line to HTC and Sprint, no matter how many similarities there are with the HOX. From a project and product management perspective, each device will have it's own requirements, development schedule, deliverables, etc. Then each carrier adds another set of differences. We can never expect to have everything the HOX gets. The HOX and HOS are their global handsets, and we're off in our own little US/Sprint only/Dual core/LTE world. I'll be glad if we ever get a JB upgrade, but we better not hold our breaths because we're just going to turn purple.
This doesn't make any sense...
F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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I still got mine
So bc there is no leak you think they don't have a prep build they are working on?..... Come on use some logic bud, we are getting JB.
Locking this thread btw as xda is not a place to come and just have a complain fest like this will turn into, esp while there is a JB thread already.
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