Could this be true?
Verizon and authorized dealers are almost hiding the Rezound from customers. I have been in a number of stores where the Rez was either not on the sales floor or was over powered by other phones like the Razr or Gnex.
I always wondered why Verizon would do this considering the power of the phone and the millions that went into promoting the Rezound before launch.
Could the reason be because Verizon is pissed that HTC took the ONE series to another provider and left them high and dry? Also there is no HTC phone coming up at Verizon (I could be wrong about that so don't kill me).
What do you think?
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What millions in advertising are you talking about? I think I saw maybe one commercial about it and nothing on their website. There was no marketing campaign.
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Commercials:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ySI7-_O0s
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meh probably because nobody makes good money on them.. on even the best plan, I make almost nothing on a rezound.. it's as bad as selling an iphone. the price point was crap on it, so who knows, maybe they're just forgetting about it now
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i doubt htc would leave verizon without one phone that runs sense 4.0...just look at the leaked pics of the droid inc 3
Yes! Verizon is SUPER PISSED OFF at HTC cause they unlocked the bootloader.
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^Verizon when HTC unlocked the Rezound's bootloader.
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Yes! Verizon is SUPER PISSED OFF at HTC cause they unlocked the bootloader.
^Verizon when HTC unlocked the Rezound's bootloader.
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^ this, lmao too true
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Commercials:
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That second commercial gave me goosebumps
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There's the HTC fireball that keeps popping up on Verizon documents...here
not every verizon store has pulled the rezound from the displays. they still have them in stock. the problem is neither the rezound or the gnexus sold well. i chalk it up to virtually no advertisement. 98% of any commercial ive seen was for the razr.
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. the problem is neither the rezound or the gnexus sold well. i chalk it up to virtually no advertisement. 98% of any commercial ive seen was for the razr.
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I'm not sure its lack of advertising so much as the Rezound & the Nexus are not really what the average Joe Schmo customer is looking for.
I recently ran into a couple really smart, really rich guys I have known for years & both where using iphones. One guy lives on Cape Cod (in a 3 million dollar house) & I stay with him for a week every Summer. When I was there, him/his Wife/his son & his daughter where all using iphones.
When I asked him what the appeal was, he said "I just want it to work & the iphone has never let me down. It also has great battery life & does everything I need it to do"
Both guys could care less about customizing/unlocked bootloaders/custom ROMs etc. Heck, none of them had changed anything but the wallpaper in their phones & they LOVE them.
Users here would NEVER be happy with the restrictions of an iphone, but we ARE NOT the typical average VZ customer by any means. We are a tiny fraction of actual users.
Without a doubt VZW is forcing every sales rep to push Razr's. Everytime I had to visit a retail store in the last few months the rep would go out of their way to recommend or suggest that I look at the Razr.
Sales representatives are just manufacturer lobbyist now, most can't tell you the specs without looking at the data sheets.
you know why we're forced to push the razr? they offer a spiff. it adds more money to what we make every time we sell, and Motorola has a website where you register sales and win prizes for selling them. honestly, I'm liking the razr more and more each day. my boss got the razr maxx and loves it.. came from the Inc 2 with extended battery. the maxx is thinner than the rezound! lol.. either way, that's why we push the razr. thing is, i've got four rezounds in stock that i can not get rid of because we can't sell them at 199 because we'll be negative for each phone. verizon really screws us with these constantly changing prices
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you know why we're forced to push the razr? they offer a spiff. it adds more money to what we make every time we sell, and Motorola has a website where you register sales and win prizes for selling them. honestly, I'm liking the razr more and more each day. my boss got the razr maxx and loves it.. came from the Inc 2 with extended battery. the maxx is thinner than the rezound! lol.. either way, that's why we push the razr. thing is, i've got four rezounds in stock that i can not get rid of because we can't sell them at 199 because we'll be negative for each phone. verizon really screws us with these constantly changing prices
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i won't lie, as much as i like the rezound id take a razr maxx in a heartbeat.
Only reason I'd take a Razr Maxx is the fact the battery is superior.
The battery issue is starting to resonate.. I've been thinking of the Razr a lot lately..
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The battery issue is starting to resonate.. I've been thinking of the Razr a lot lately..
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yeah same here, the rezounds battery life isn't very good at all. funny thing is i could slap a rezound battery in a thunderbolt and go 24hrs+ but on this device im lucky if i get 12hrs.
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yeah same here, the rezounds battery life isn't very good at all. funny thing is i could slap a rezound battery in a thunderbolt and go 24hrs+ but on this device im lucky if i get 12hrs.
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This. My wife rocks the TB and it kills me how much better the battery life is. I think there may have been some kind of hardware flaw baked into the rezound. Eating up 800+ mA just from turning on the screen is crazy! (Although, the screen is so sick!)
I still dig the phone, but I feel like its going to be a long 2 years when its all said and done. Having to be constantly plugged in is a *****. This post just cost 3% LOL!
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not every verizon store has pulled the rezound from the displays. they still have them in stock. the problem is neither the rezound or the gnexus sold well. i chalk it up to virtually no advertisement. 98% of any commercial ive seen was for the razr.
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I think you're right. I cant remember seeing any verizon smartphone commercials other than their annoying droid razr commercials every 5 seconds all day long. I dont know if its verizon or motorola footing the bill for that advertising but its got to be expensive.
It seems weird that for such a great phone, I had to walk to the back of the store to find it (after another store in town didn't carry it). Verizon also had the iPhones in the back corner, actually further back than my gem of a phone. I love the Rezound and love that HTC has made leaps and bounds past their older models (former EVO 4G owner). The battery life is much better than before, but I know it's still not perfect. I can't complain though with 20 hour battery life with listening to music 5 hours straight and using the navigation for a half hour, along with constant email/messaging/data usage.
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I posted this in the Thunderbolt forum(as I still have a TB until Monday), but thought you guys would get a laugh out of it to.
This was the line for the RAZR launch this morning at my local Verizon. This pic was taken 10 minutes before they opened(They decided on 11:11AM for the launch).
Btw, that lady wasn't there for the RAZR... she just wanted a new battery for her phone and was upset that Verizon wasn't open yet.
A RAZR launch is always the best day to go to the VZW store if you need to , because it is never crowded.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
Jay... You still sticking with the rezound over the nexus? I gotta make a decision soon.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
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Lol yeah I went down to play with the RAZR thinking that I had to stand in line to do so, but the freaking store was pretty much empty. I asked one of the sales reps about how the RAZR was selling and he said that they only sold two. The funny part is that they had balloons, posters, banners and all for the RAZR, all in vain.
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Jay... You still sticking with the rezound over the nexus? I gotta make a decision soon.
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yup! 100% for the rezound, not even thinking twice. i don't want stock android; i want sense. i love how the rezound is shaping up, especially the video camera and the camera, they look great! i'm getting it tuesday when our store gets them in stock
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Lol yeah I went down to play with the RAZR thinking that I had to stand in line to do so, but the freaking store was pretty much empty. I asked one of the sales reps about how the RAZR was selling and he said that they only sold two. The funny part is that they had balloons, posters, banners and all for the RAZR, all in vain.
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i know, right? sad part is, in our verizon website, they said that employees couldn't activate the razr on launch day, much like the iphone 4s, because of the overwhelming demand. LOL. what demand? hahaha
2 Issues, there are so many Android phones, those who WANT these new phones can't get them because they just got the last 9 phones that came out in the last couple months, lol. iPhone fanboys only get 1 phone every 12+ months, easier to build up demand when there isn't something else similar coming out. Not to mention, people KNOW the Nexus and Rezound come out in the next few days.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
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Hell I went into a store with my Rezound to buy a case because I heard they were there. When I pulled out my Rezound to put the case on all the employees were like how did you get it early. Told them I preordered it on Wednesday got it Thursday. Even the few customers put down the Razr's to see my Rezound Then most of them were asking about the beats by dre phone. Pretty funny!!!!!Razr Launch fail!!!!
Verizon can't run a marketing campaign to save their lives. It's embarrassing.
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Hell I went into a store with my Rezound to buy a case because I heard they were there. When I pulled out my Rezound to put the case on all the employees were like how did you get it early. Told them I preordered it on Wednesday got it Thursday. Even the few customers put down the Razr's to see my Rezound Then most of them were asking about the beats by dre phone. Pretty funny!!!!!Razr Launch fail!!!!
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Beautiful!
The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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i was frolicking about in the mall today and saw one on display in Best Buy Mobile(there were people in the store, but no one seemed to be paying any attention to it). i decided to pick it up and it just felt all fragile and seemed like if you didn't hold it just right it might slip out of your hands. i didn't really play with it much but did try to see if i could experience the lag and kept constantly switching back & forth through windows and it did slow down. a salesperson was just watching me and probably thought i'm "disturbed"(which isn't far from the truth).
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Verizon can't run a marketing campaign to save their lives. It's embarrassing.
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Seriously?? Have you forgotten that because of Verizons "terrible" marketing 99% of people refer to all Android phones as "Droids." Coming from someone who has "sent from my DROID Bionic" as his sig just makes you saying that, that much funnier.
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i was frolicking about in the mall today
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^lol
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Zytryx said:
The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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In photos, the hump looks pretty big. In reality, it doesn't feel nearly as intrusive. You might still hate it, of course. I'm just clarifying that as far as how the phone feels in hand, the hump is the most minor concern for me.
I played with one at one of my Verizon stores... I just can't get over Moto's failed Blur. The locked BL nonsense, I mean.... No reason to ever go back to another Moto, their track record ruined it for me. (I may change my opinion if Google does successfully acquire Moto).
On a side note, if they would quit having these damn release parties and just had teaser commercials, and NOT let people know that a better phone is coming out 3 days later, and subsequently 7 days again after than. AND, if they didn't tie people to asinine contracts, AND, if there were not choices, AND.... You get the point. You can't hype something that is overpriced and isn't changing anything in the world. How many people do you think will show up at a car dealer to see a new hybrid?
Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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And a lot of those very same people have one of these phones (smart phone of some sort) in there hands. Just sayin'.... should I give my phone money to them for food instead?
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And a lot of those very same people have one of these phones (smart phone of some sort) in there hands. Just sayin'.... should I give my phone money to them for food instead?
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not true ^
I'm around a lot of people who are legally considered poor, most have POS dumbphones with hardly known cell providers, the ones that have smartphones still are having problem affording rent and whatnot but they're not as bad off, and they get their smartphone for free or for something like $50, and again with POS providers that are hella cheap.
It's hard to live in this society without internet or cell phones, and there's ways of getting those things without having to pay a lot.
If someone can afford to blow $300 on a phone but they say that they can't afford food, then they can, they're just dumbasses or lying to your face.
anyway way off topic, just wanted to rant.
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Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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dude.. that's what food stamps and homeless shelters are for. why spend your own money on food. LOL
Just took it apart and seems to be an easy fixable phone for replacing broken LCD or digitizer. I also checked there is 1 led per soft touch key on bottom so thats good, usually they would do one for every 2 buttons. The status led indicator seemed well placed, so i assume brightness of it maybe would be able to be adjusted in programming rather then hardware. Here ya go..
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Thanks for being the brave one. And it's good to hear that each of the soft-lit key are powered by an individual LED, rather than just 1 or 2 which would often mean uneven lighting.
If I attempted to dissemble my Rezound I might just pop an ulcer in the process.
lol no problem, i guess now im just going to wait untill the full root comes through so i can start looking to see if the led's can be set to be brighter and if the speaker can be louder
Awesome man, thanks for the research! You're quite brave haha you must know what you're doing
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HOLY **** that thing looks clean. Ive opened everyone of my HTC Phones and none of them looked that organized LOL. I dunno, its just looks very different compare to past HTC Devices. thanks for the tear down. Pretty interesting
Do we know who makes the display yet??
Wow, and you got it all back together with no issue? I am already pleasantly surprised with the quality and quantity of Devs over here! The DX and DX2 had ****! Phones been out what, 6 months, no one dared take it apart lol. They are just now getting someone to try to port MIUI, he bought my old phone from me to do it.
ya i take all the phones i use apart and put them together again. I had a disassembly of the Droid X on droidfroums while back. Should be exactly same with DX2.
No one was nice enough to show us here in the X2 forum. The x2 was the red headed step child.
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No one was nice enough to show us here in the X2 forum. The x2 was the red headed step child.
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I don't understand why anyone would continue to buy moto products.
The DX1 was locked the hell down and didn't get any "new" roms until 2nd init was discovered. I don't know why anyone would make that mistake twice with the X2.
Then the Bionic? Who in the right mind would buy that phone after it came out so late? How can you support a company that can't get their **** together for months?
The Bionic was an attempt by Moto to take $$ quick off the publicity before the RAZR came out, lol.
But yea, I didn't do **** with my X1 the whole time I had it, I just started to get involved in the Dev world in August.
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The Bionic was an attempt by Moto to take $$ quick off the publicity before the RAZR came out, lol.
But yea, I didn't do **** with my X1 the whole time I had it, I just started to get involved in the Dev world in August.
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And you'd think with the extra time they had they would at least release a solid product. SMH.
hahah very true! They held onto it to make changes from user feedback, if my mind serves me correctly. Guess the users had ****ty suggestions?
yup, that's why i stick to HTC for my smartphones. my first was the eris, second was the inc, and now it's the rezound. i've used PLENTY of motorola/samsung products and damn i can't stand them lol
honestly guys i love moto phones more than htc. First off the thunderbolt pissed me the hell off with its heating up issues and battery issues and all that crap was so annoying, u dont keep a phone to use as a heater. When the samsung charge came out i jumped on it, loved it for the reason that it didnt heat up AT ALL even if i used the net for a long time. But it suckkkked software wise. The bionic was really good liked it a lot but still wanted a more detailed screen so when the htc rezound with the smoothness in software came out i loved it. So far with this rezound im happy, made me think good about htc again, but ya motorola has always been loyal to me
Eh, to each their own. I've never had any problems with htc so that's why they're ok to me! Lol
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Blur is ****, plain and simple. And the Bionic/X2/RAZR are all garbage phones for more reasons than not.
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honestly guys i love moto phones more than htc. First off the thunderbolt pissed me the hell off with its heating up issues and battery issues and all that crap was so annoying, u dont keep a phone to use as a heater. When the samsung charge came out i jumped on it, loved it for the reason that it didnt heat up AT ALL even if i used the net for a long time. But it suckkkked software wise. The bionic was really good liked it a lot but still wanted a more detailed screen so when the htc rezound with the smoothness in software came out i loved it. So far with this rezound im happy, made me think good about htc again, but ya motorola has always been loyal to me
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Thats crazy, I've been using my thunderbolt instead of the bionic because the bionic is so freaking awful.
Yea, my buddy is having so many LEGITIMATE issues that today Verizon finally agreed to warranty replace with the Rezound. He just texted me the good news. They said they have a "fix" due in December, he said that is not good enough. Which, he is right, we don't pay for these devices to not be able to use them to the full effect. Bad news for him though, he fell for the accessory package, they don't reimburse you for those.
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Yea, my buddy is having so many LEGITIMATE issues that today Verizon finally agreed to warranty replace with the Rezound. He just texted me the good news. They said they have a "fix" due in December, he said that is not good enough. Which, he is right, we don't pay for these devices to not be able to use them to the full effect. Bad news for him though, he fell for the accessory package, they don't reimburse you for those.
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That's bull****. Verizon told me they would exchange my bionic for a thunderbolt or a stratosphere. Why the hell would i want to trade the bionic for the 8 month old phone i replaced with it!
I have a Rezound and love it except for the battery life. Verizon is offering me a Certified Pre-owned phone of my choice without signing a contract. The Bionic looks like the best one available, for $149.99. It uses the same size 4G sim card as my Rez? I can just swap back and forth if so. Would this be a solid backup phone? It has a couple cool things like a dedicated hdmi port and the lap dock option. Worth the buck fifty?
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No stay away from that pos. That's what I came from.
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I have a Rezound and love it except for the battery life. Verizon is offering me a Certified Pre-owned phone of my choice without signing a contract. The Bionic looks like the best one available, for $149.99. It uses the same size 4G sim card as my Rez? I can just swap back and forth if so. Would this be a solid backup phone? It has a couple cool things like a dedicated hdmi port and the lap dock option. Worth the buck fifty?
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It has had some updates to fix some of the issues, my suggestion would be to check the bionic forums and see how people feel it is working now. So how did you work that out to get offered another phone without contract plus keep the Rezound ? Curious, because I would love to have another phone to mess around with myself
I bought the Rez used, and the Verizon rep put insurance on my account when he activated my sim card. Turns out that is not an option for used phones, so I whined and moaned about not having a warranty on a 3 month old phone, and they offered me the CPO device. I can use it whenever, too! Might just wait for a Nexus to show up and sell it
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def keep the rezound... with the right settings i get great battery life
I had a Bionic aswell and it is a piece of junk. Battery life is about the same, screen is horrible, and the camera is pathetic.
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def keep the rezound... with the right settings i get great battery life
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Not to steal the topic.. what type of settings do you use for battery ?
p.s. Nexus would be fun , but seems like it has issues as well
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Not to steal the topic.. what type of settings do you use for battery ?
p.s. Nexus would be fun , but seems like it has issues as well
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well there is a few... i have 4g off mostly and enable mobile data always "off".. i set wifi scan to 3 mins (find a app to do this its in the build prop). And im using an app https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUucG93ZXJzYXZlciJd
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but now its going down faster so i think i have an app thats using my battery now
I've heard horrid stories about the Bionic, stay away from it, get about any other newer phone other than it if you really want something other than the Rezound.
I had a bionic shortly, if there has ever been a bigger POS I'm not sure what it would be (although the nexus is close)
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I had a bionic shortly, if there has ever been a bigger POS I'm not sure what it would be (although the nexus is close)
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The downfalls of the nexus made it worse IMHO and I had the bionic for two months...kept the Gnex 2 days.
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Stay far away from the Bionic. Girlfriend has one and nothing but trouble. Even with root and tweaking it is no where close to my stock Rezound.
Pos heheh
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Had the Bionic for 6 hours before returning it for the Rezound. Wasn't impressed at all. Plus, I thought I read the Bionic went on sale for $99 today. Still wouldn't buy it.
The Bionic is garbage. I mean, its plenty fast, but the screen is very washed out, and the camera is just sooooo bad. Plus I really hated the shape of the thing. It was uncomfortable to talk on for more than a couple minutes, and even uncomfortable to hold for long periods. Why anyone would put sharp edges on a phone is beyond me!
Hey this is the OP, thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like the Bionic is basically a big deuce, a pos, a stinker to be killed with fire, but...I still want it to tinker with...ugh, can't decide.
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I get pretty good battery life with my Rezound, and that's with the stock battery.
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Hey this is the OP, thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like the Bionic is basically a big deuce, a pos, a stinker to be killed with fire, but...I still want it to tinker with...ugh, can't decide.
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I came from the bionic, it took me 2x3 hour phone calls with verizon for them to exchange that piece of crap for my rezound.
The bionic is a piece of **** there's nothing to tinker with..There's no unlocked bootloader, data drops every time you turn off your screen, there's about 3 developers for the bionic who are inactive.
Stay away from that piece of ****!
stay away from the bionic lol. keep the rezound.
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Well, it's official now per the Motorola Android Software Upgrade page: the X2 will STAY on the GB kernel (v2.3). No ICS for us.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
This, coupled with Verizon's attempts to shoo me away what with killing the "New Every Two" program, charging a $30 fee for "free" upgrades, and now taking away the grandfathered unlimited data plan and you can bet once ALL the contracts are up on my Verizon plan, I'm switching to Sprint.
Verizon and Moto can flounder for all I care. I'm going either HTC or Nexus. Luckily, the Nexus is on Sprint so I can get an unlocked bootloader which will be nice.
Honestly, who saw this coming? Typical Motorola. Yet more reasons not to buy Motorola. F'em!
If Sprint would cover our area like VZW does I'd switch in a heartbeat. Living in the sticks sucks.
"Droid X2 - Will remain on Android 2.3" That is until Dragonzkiller gets done with it. lol
Thats why I feel nothing good will ever come from carriers and manufacturers. They give us the device and service and it is the GREAT DEVELOPERS that give us the good stuff.
jsgraphicart said:
"Droid X2 - Will remain on Android 2.3" That is until Dragonzkiller gets done with it. lol
Thats why I feel nothing good will ever come from carriers and manufacturers. They give us the device and service and it is the GREAT DEVELOPERS that give us the good stuff.
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iBolski said:
Well, it's official now per the Motorola Android Software Upgrade page: the X2 will STAY on the GB kernel (v2.3). No ICS for us.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Verizon and Moto can flounder for all I care. I'm going either HTC or Nexus. Luckily, the Nexus is on Sprint so I can get an unlocked bootloader which will be nice.
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Stay away from HTC. I have had two of their devices. never got an update beyond a minor maintenance. Locked bootloaders and all the baggage from Sense tagging along in the kernels and framework usually keeps them from getting useful updates or custom work even from 3rd party. ANd they are bleeding red ink and going down in quality as well as customer support. Notice their flagship phones no longer even have SD card slots.
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Stay away from HTC. I have had two of their devices. never got an update beyond a minor maintenance. Locked bootloaders and all the baggage from Sense tagging along in the kernels and framework usually keeps them from getting useful updates or custom work even from 3rd party. ANd they are bleeding red ink and going down in quality as well as customer support. Notice their flagship phones no longer even have SD card slots.
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I'm guessing you've never heard of an HTC ONE X, or the HTC EVO 4G LTE??? Beats Audio, 4G, huge screens, amazing cameras, AND the SD card slots are under the battery genius -_-
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Not surprised at all, I knew this phone was doomed when it took so long to get it up to 2.3.4.
Oh well, now we wait for CM9 (and I wait for another upgrade)
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"Droid X2 - Will remain on Android 2.3" That is until Dragonzkiller gets done with it. lol
Thats why I feel nothing good will ever come from carriers and manufacturers. They give us the device and service and it is the GREAT DEVELOPERS that give us the good stuff.
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As I said before, it's sad that a single hobbyist can do what an entire development team cannot. They're doing this solely so that people upgrade to their new phones.
The Droid X2 isn't even a year old. This is completely ridiculous. I am never buying another Motorola phone again.
It'd be nice if they'd be honest and just put "Lazy/can't handle the bloatware."
Also, Q3 for everything except the newest phones...disgraceful.
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It'd be nice if they'd be honest and just put "Lazy/can't handle the bloatware."
Also, Q3 for everything except the newest phones...disgraceful.
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Yep. As said, I'm just pissed that the X2 isn't getting ICS even though it's ONLY ELEVEN MONTHS OLD.
Any recommendations for a good phone company that unlocks their bootloaders and supports their phones?
I'm not too upset I suppose. This confirmation just means that this X2 is the last Motorola phone I'll ever buy.
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Yep. As said, I'm just pissed that the X2 isn't getting ICS even though it's ONLY ELEVEN MONTHS OLD.
Any recommendations for a good phone company that unlocks their bootloaders and supports their phones?
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SAMSUNGG
Jayydude_SGP said:
I'm guessing you've never heard of an HTC ONE X, or the HTC EVO 4G LTE??? Beats Audio, 4G, huge screens, amazing cameras, AND the SD card slots are under the battery genius -_-
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Beats audio .....LMAO, that sak-o-$ht that HTC spent $300 mil on? That 's one of the reasons they are losing money and their stock is tanking... genie...
Guessing that you have never seen this?
HTC One x and One S specs.
No MicroSD card slot and non-removable battery. Is that cheapo or what?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-series-comparison
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Hopefully they stepped there game up. When I got the brand new Samsung Eternity, we NEVER got any support for our phone lol. Samsung practically forgot about us. That WAS probably over 2 years ago now, so.....
It is now time for you guys to flip off Verizon and Motorola by showing what a single dude accomplished which several of their so called software engineers failed to accomplish or are unwilling to accomplish!!! Off to Verizon and Motorola twitter feeds!!!
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Beats audio .....LMAO, that sak-o-$ht that HTC spent $300 mil on? That 's one of the reasons they are losing money and their stock is tanking... genie...
Guessing that you have never seen this?
HTC One x and One S specs.
No MicroSD card slot and non-removable battery. Is that cheapo or what?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-series-comparison
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The GNex doesn't have an SD slot either. A lot of phones seem to be doing away with them.
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The GNex doesn't have an SD slot either. A lot of phones seem to be doing away with them.
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A key reason for doing away with them is so as to avoid lags due to the sd card... that is what google themselves said...
This thread can be closed (jk) we have ICS now thanks to DzK!!!
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You should put that on twitter..dragonzkiller would get a kick out of that one
How upset would you be?
So my DNA screen took dump not sure what caused it for sure but at one point my phone did get extremely hot when charging it. Soon after the screen blacked out and never came back. OK no biggie called VZW CC/Support. After a few mins, Rep suggested warranty replacement with over night shipping. Got the phone package the next day. Open it up. It was the Droid incredible. ??? Ok called VZW back. They said that's what we replace if you had the Thunderbolt. Well of course I corrected them. I told them that was what I had before the DNA, they said sorry. Just send the phone back and we will send you the DNA but sadly I would have to wait till Monday. NO PHONE FOR THE WEEKEND. I asked if I could use the DInc till I get my DNA. NOW mind you I was being very nice considering it was there mistake.
This Rep suggested I use the Dinc and try it out and if I liked it you can use it instead of them sending me a new DNA. I was a lost for words. Then 8 Million questions started to pour in to my brain. I took this one.... I said ok give me my 600 hundred dollars back that I paid for the DNA. She asked why would you pay $600 for your phone. I told her that was the price I had to pay to keep my Unlimited Data. Then the Rep switched on her Sales pitch and started to say.... well can I look at your account data usage maybe we can see if I can get you a better data package.: My anger level went from 2 to 2 million.
I stopped her. I told her with my very very nice voice. You need to get your supervisor or you are about to hear the worst foul language ever in your life time....
OK long story short ( too late) I talked to a the Rep Super. I will be getting my DNA Monday and I will be using the Dinc till I get my DNA replacement.
Thanks for letting me vent.
I wouldve tried to back hand her through the phone
The people working for verizon are idiots. I still have my unlimited data after paying the 200 to upgrade to the DNA hahaha. Im not complaining.
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You Lucky sob
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Very lucky sob I lost mines for it
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I know how you feel, this is what verizon had sent me to replace one of my devices
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Now how the **** is that "like new"?
Needless to say i have another one coming to me next day shipping to be here monday.
Don't worry when I work for Verizon I'll value my customers.I went BS when my droid x messed up. Terrible inspection,I seen better like news on eBay.
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I wouldve tried to back hand her through the phone
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hahahaha. Yea, Verizon really just has a monopoly in United States...Verizon is the only carrier from which i can get 4g or good 3g in my area. Thus, i have no choice but to use Verizon for whatever price they ask and such...plus their customer support isn't too great i.e. your experience ...really sucks. At least you're getting your DNA replaced.
So why is vzw customer service always rated #1? Everyone has a bad experience now and again, but overall vzw is THE best in the biz. And if Verizon is all that works in your area how would you know how Verizon is comparatively if you javent tried the others.
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Always expect the worst anytime you deal with Verizon about any kind of issue. That way you will never be disappointed. Also plan to waste a lot of time.
In all fairness this was my first negative customer care Interactive. There is always that 1 bad apple.
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In all fairness this was my first negative customer care Interactive. There is always that 1 bad apple.
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Nearly every time I've had to call them I've been fed bs, attitudes, and rudeness. I've had like 2 people that were descent to deal with, one guy actually helped me. The other guy didn't do anything (so he was still useless) but at least he was pleasant. I just stopped dealing with it :-\
At least some people don't have bad luck with CSRs
Wow, no charging port cover.
That's not cool.
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I work at an indirect vzw store so I have to call customer care multiple times a day... It's really hit or miss with the reps... Some of them will bend over backwards to help and others will just blow you off... If you get a bad one just call back or ask to speak to a supervisor... Customer care can pretty much do whatever you want them too... You just have to get the rep that's not lazy.
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Ya don't say?
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Nearly every time I've had to call them I've been fed bs, attitudes, and rudeness. I've had like 2 people that were descent to deal with, one guy actually helped me. The other guy didn't do anything (so he was still useless) but at least he was pleasant. I just stopped dealing with it :-\
At least some people don't have bad luck with CSRs
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When you get people like that just call back.
I was having signal issues with my galaxy s3 and I had been through a few replacement devices. I finally asked to be moved to a different phone.
Tech guy I was taking too said it was impossible, that they would need to come to my area and do tests, I'd have to submit a service call.. Wait a few weeks, and then, only if they found a problem, they might consider it. But it would be a razor or something.
I said I wasn't happy with that, and I had been swapped devices in the post. He said no, this was their policy. (I wanted the dna).
I said thank you and hung up.
I called back 3 min later. Talked to another tech. Told her the same thing. Bad signal, 3rd replacement and she, on her own, not more than. 1 min into the call said "want me to send you a dna?"
She sent it overnight, entire call took less than 5 min, other guy had me on the line for 20.
Just goes to show you.. They Can do stuff for you, you just need to weed out the a-holes who lie and say "nope.. That's impossible sorry"
I've also noticed that the time you have been a customer seems to matter. Newer customers seem to get less in the way of good help. They have special policies for "tenured" customers which might explain some of the differences between personal experiences. I have been a customer for 10 years
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That's probably it, I've had Verizon before but it was quite a while ago. Only been with them now for about a year and a half. Seems silly to me that they do that but I guess people get phones then sell them or whatever pretty often. I'd imagine they don't like that. As long as their service stays the best I'll keep them, even if their CS is a joke... I just hope I never have to call them again lol.
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That's probably it, I've had Verizon before but it was quite a while ago. Only been with them now for about a year and a half. Seems silly to me that they do that but I guess people get phones then sell them or whatever pretty often. I'd imagine they don't like that. As long as their service stays the best I'll keep them, even if their CS is a joke... I just hope I never have to call them again lol.
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You guys gotta think about all the BS calls the reps get on a daily basis. For every person with a legitimate issue with their phone, there are probably 4 just calling in trying to get an early upgrade, or get their phone swapped because they did something to it. If they just allowed everyone to swap phones whenever they wanted then the whole subsidized system just goes out the window.