I just saw a review of the Xperia S saying the screen is amazing but pictures have an awfull color banding!
Is that true?
If yes can you try ''wallpaper set and save'' app? It's the only app to set wallpapers without banding due to software
vegetaleb said:
I just saw a review of the Xperia S saying the screen is amazing but pictures have an awfull color banding!
Is that true?
If yes can you try ''wallpaper set and save'' app? It's the only app to set wallpapers without banding due to software
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I think it's utter nonsense. Nobody else has mentioned it in their reviews (just the contrary actually) and I've never seen it myself on any of the videos.
I've seen a video where they compare the screen of the Xperia S and (I think) the Galaxy Nexus, and it showed all the different colour gradients, and the Xperia S was miles better. I can't find it now that I'm looking for it though!
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I think it's utter nonsense. Nobody else has mentioned it in their reviews (just the contrary actually) and I've never seen it myself on any of the videos.
I've seen a video where they compare the screen of the Xperia S and (I think) the Galaxy Nexus, and it showed all the different colour gradients, and the Xperia S was miles better. I can't find it now that I'm looking for it though!
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Yep have the same feelings here, but not every reviewer is capable of reviewing ;-)
Here's the infamous review
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/5/2841547/sony-xperia-s-review
We definitely need owners to share their thoughts about this possible issue, this is a potential deal breaker if real.
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Here's the infamous review
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/5/2841547/sony-xperia-s-review
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Thanks for sharing, it was good and I liked the shots very much. Nice videos.
I had color banding on both Nexus 1 and sgs2, obviously with wallpapers having blue sky.
It was a software bug because as I said with ''wallpaper set and save'' the banding disapeared on N1, on sgs2 it was a custom rom that solved it.
The key problem is that some versions of stock ''Gallery'' are coming with 65k colors instead of 16M. Dunno why they are still doing this mistake...
I just got the Xperia S and no pictures of mine has color banding or other issues like my OLD nexus
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We definitely need owners to share their thoughts about this possible issue, this is a potential deal breaker if real.
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I recently replaced my Xperia S due to yellow tint issue. This new one has no yellow tint but has colour banding issue on some things like on the front page of the XDA app. Will post pics if peple wanna see it.
Mine is being repaired at the moment for the yellow tint issue as well. I have a loaner HTC wildfire s for the moment. The xda app splash screen just is banded. It's exactly the same on this phone.
Some other apps seem to have a little color banding, but imho it's usually just because they are optimized for lower resolution devices. The situation will propably change a bit since more devices with hd screens are being released.
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I checked out the XDA app's slash screen, and holy smokes that is some serious banding. But that's not the fault of the phone, as I presume the image is actually banded like RiotRick says.
Places I found banding is for example on the News and Weather app on the tabs, the gradients of gray are clearly visible. On my old HTC Hero it is not noticeable in the 65k colours.
But I'm skeptical to push the fault on the screen though - I'd say it's far more likely that the app itself using images that weren't rendered for 16M colours and the xhdpi. I can safely say that it DOES NOT colour band the static timescape wallpapers (it is silky smooth), so just by that I do not think the screen or software is at fault.
Alien987, if you really are on the fence due to screen deal breakers, I would be more concerned of the colour renditions of the LCD screen at off-center viewing angles. Personally, it doesn't bother me as I'd be looking at it from the center when I use it, but my cousin pointed it out when she was trying to watch the game I was playing when she was sitting beside me (she uses an iphone 4, so I guess she is acute to how nice screens look? =S) (oops sorry I went sorta off-topic)
To be clear the screen on the Xperia S exhibits no colour banding with images 16bit and over just like most other screen types, the reviewer clearly doesn't know what they are talking about and goes into zero depth to try and justify the claim.
Colour banding only happens when the on screen image is of a lower gradient then say 16bit, most images in applications deliberately have a lower gradient (8bit) for lower memory usage in their apps so u will see this banding since a lower colour pallet is used.
Mobile screens these days even pentile, don't have an issue with colour banding as they are of a high quality.
Check a 24bit image on the screen and you will see zero colour banding in all colours.
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Ah, excellent explanation, smc! I had a hunch, and you definitely much more sense of it
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Theverge is a bunch of samsungsold fanboys tbh
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Honestly, I think the verge review is biased.
They seem to be more interested in the One X than Xperia S.
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Does anyone eleses yellows and Greens look off esp the yellows they seem to be very dull and off and almost orange
I agree, the market icon look Olive-colored on Atrix 4G
A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
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But the color does not feel as good as my laptop screen...
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No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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Qhd is not a screen technology, its a resolution.
And the problem with the colors isn't that they're dull or unsaturated compared to a super amoled., that's to be expexted. The problem is that the colors are just wrong compared to just about any screen you want to compare it too, load up some websites on the phone and a well calibrated desktop monitor and you'll easily see the difference.
Compared to my captivate im really happy. That thing made skin tones green or orange.
It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
Ok, saying this again. We (at least I) am not saying this in comparison to a samoled screen, the colors on a regular LCD will obviously never look like that, the colors on the amoled are completely wrong. However that doesn't mean the atrix has them right, just look at the screen compared to a well calibrated computer monitor.
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It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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Bumping this to get some attention on this issue.
I'm considering returning my Atrix because of how bad yellows and blues look, compared to OTHER LCDs, not compared to Super AMOLED screens.
I lined up my Captivate, Atrix, iPod Touch 4, and my wife's HTC Evo Shift and fired up Words with Friends on all of them. While it's clear that the Captivate is oversaturated, if you take that out of the equation, the Atrix's colors just look bad compared to the other two LCDs. The yellow tiles look "dirty" like they have a brown or greenish tint to them. The light blues in the tabs on the home screen of Words with Friends look like they have a greenish tint as well.
I've seen a lot of people say that they think it's one of the greatest displays ever, up there on par with the iPhone 4. If that's true, I really hope mine and other people seeing this just have defective models that can be exchanged.
I'm going into my AT&T store sometime tonight or tomorrow in hopes of putting two or more Atrices side by side to compare.
If anyone else seeing this problem could do the same, it would be very helpful. Especially as it seems likely that a random one pulled out in store could have the same defect.
Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
If you go to a verizon store and play with a motorola droid x you'll see that its screen looks the same as well, it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
The screens also look just like the motorola droid x's screen, so it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Thanks for the reply, mjgunn, as sad as it makes me
Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye. The iphone is also much smoother when using the pinch to zoom feature. With the Atrix having a dual core processor, I thought it would at least be on par with the iphone, but for some reason it's definitely not as smooth.
Oh well... just my 2 cents.
So I went in to an AT&T store last night and compared my Atrix with their demo unit.
The colors seem a little bit better, but interestingly, the demo unit's display didn't seem as bright as my Atrix, and it may have had slightly higher contrast.
I got one of the associates to look at it and agree that mine had a slight color cast to it. They said they would do a replacement for me if I came back with my paperwork from my online order, so I said I would do that today or Saturday.
I went straight home and compared my Atrix again to my wife's HTC Evo Shift. In doing that, I still felt like the color on her screen was significantly better than on mine, and in seemed better than I remembered the store's demo unit, as well.
So, I think I need to get my phone and her phone both in there, side by side with the demo unit, and see if I could live with the screen if it was exactly the same as the demo unit. I think probably yes, given the other major advantages of this phone (qHD resolution, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM), but as a graphic designer, bad colors are hard for me to take. And colors that are off in the way the Atrix's screen is off are a graver sin to me than oversaturating a la Super AMOLED.
Bottom line, I'm still on the fence. Has anyone else done any other tests?
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye.
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Wait, so now the iPhone's IPS LCD is oversaturated too? Let's face it: Atrix is weak on colors -thanks to the RGBW PenTile display, where they tried to prolong its life by replacing some Blue tiles with White tiles -which makes colors pale.
It does look great with flesh tones though. Ill give it that.
People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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Or they got an Atrix with a defective display, like me. Ony my Atrix, there's no getting around the fact that yellows look dirty and brown, and that certain shades of blue look greenish.
I Brought the Atrix but i have some doubts about it.
First, its the second time i got and Device with the screen a little bit Yellowish, when compared to the white from the notebook, First was the Ipod touch that compared to my brothers one, looked yellowish, then i compared to an iphone then the iphone looked more yellowish than mine. and now Atrix.. Is this normal?
And I have some problems with colors, i dont know if its Android that has less colors or else
take a look at this screenshot:
can you see the "layers" in the wallpaper? in the Pc Screen it Look perfect. Who guilty for this problem? i dont remember seeying this problem on my ipod.
Thanks
Check to see if there is an option for "high quality drawing" in this launcher. Better, unninstall launcher and see if that happens on stock too.
About the colors, yes, it's yellowish. Many cellphones are, unfortunately. Thats a bit of detail Nokia always gets right and no one notices or talks about it.
Hahah Oi Viamonte, tbm so brasileiro, mas vamos manter o ingles. Ok ill try those methods
Tried the High Resolution Drawing, didnt helped =/ is this normal in other phones like samsung galaxy S2?
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Tried the High Resolution Drawing, didnt helped =/ is this normal in other phones like samsung galaxy S2?
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Those tend to be to blue.
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The banding is most likely caused by the fact that the Atrix actually has a full 24bit screen and most other phones hop along with 18bit (dithered). On top of that most applications like the Android Gallery only display in 16 bit colour (Moto probably didn't bother to fix it either). Since there's no dithering on the Atrix (as it isn't required) you end up with banding. Just assign the wallpaper using another app which does it directly (there's a few on the market). Or, if you run CM7 you can force dithering the performance menu. Until more 24bit apps come out the CM7 dithering trick is probably the way to go.
The yellowish tinge is likely because most other screens actually fall on the reddish side (especially AMOLED pentile types).
The Atrix screen is beautiful. Try getting the black wallpaper from the market. Some people say movies look bad. People play the wrong movies. Get Moboplayer and a hi res 720 movie. The screen and colors are again beautiful. The only issue with the screen is it is not good in daylight. Set the brightness to 60 or 70....this phone amazes me every day.
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Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
Now the question is can we use a app like voodoo screen tuner and make it even better =p lol
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Did it come with the cool sample HD video that shows off the screen like the Intl. has?
As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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What do you mean by hatching?
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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It's not a matter of color reproduction; it's the physical subpixels that look a bit off. It's a subtle diagonal hatching pattern that is visible regardless of brightness. It's not horribly obvious at normal distances but I can see it. Honestly it isn't that much worse than being able to see the square pattern around individual pixels on my GS2--I was just hoping at this resolution/pixel density I wouldn't be able to see it at all.
Color reproduction isn't too bad. It's slightly different from my GS2 but I am not that picky about it, since I don't do serious photography or other art. AMOLED screens all have oversaturated colors anyway.
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What do you mean by hatching?
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It's sort of like there is an overlay of tiny black dots in a diagonal pattern. As I mention above it isn't obvious especially at more than a foot or so away, but it is visible.
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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I hope it doesn't seem like I'm freaking out.
I'm saying this having used the phone a bit; I have it sitting right here. No argument here, it is way better than the PenTile on the RAZR or any other Moto phone I've used. And yes, I'm pretty sure you're right about the technical limitations preventing proper RGB layouts for this resolution/size, probably something to do with how small they can physically make subpixels, since it is clearly possible to have a 1280x800 Super AMOLED+ display in a 7.7" form factor. I ALSO agree that a screen this large would be awful at 800x480, and I definitely prefer the PenTile 1280x800 over RGB 800x480 at this size. I am definitely NOT saying the screen is bad, but I am disappointed because it isn't as good as I hoped it would be.
So we mostly agree. I am just more irritable I guess.
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Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
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I had a Skyrocket before this and the difference is stunning. My wife has an ip4s and says she can't stop staring at it over my shoulder because it looks so good.
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
Just tried looking at my iPhone 4 and it looks like all the color has been sucked out....this really is a great screen!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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Where is the post that says ICS fixed this?
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How does the screen work in direct sunlight? I am not wanting to watch a movie, but need it when working outside to read e-mail and use the phone. On my current HTC Tilt 2 I have to find shade to see anything on my screen. I have read that the Super Amoled+ screens are better. I am hoping this will work where I do not have to put on my reading glasses.
One thing is for sure, the screen definitely is an attention grabber. All of my co-workers were amazed and how sharp and clear the screen was.
This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
Skyrocket does it too
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This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
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The screen is beautiful period. Better than my infuse or skyrocket.
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Does anyone experience "moire effects" on the display when browsing dark text on a light background - ie. on Internet Explorer on in an Email account -?
The problem is notified on Nokia EU and Nokia USA but no response from nokia; I thinks it's a matter of display technology, the PENtile matrix is so crappy and this is one (bad) behavior.
Does anyone is affected by this problem?
nokia reference threads:
****://discussions.europe.nokia.***/t5/Nokia-with-Windows-Phone/Lumia-800-Moire-effect-when-displaying-dark-text-on-light/td-p/1266269
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Yes, it's because of the PenTile matrix, my Nexus One was the same, as is the Desire I have next to me.
ok, thanks for yoir reply. i will force myself to fall in love with pentile display
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You'll never fall in love with it, you just tolerate it.
Yes, specially if, like me, come from an iPhone 4.
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Yes, specially if, like me, come from an iPhone 4.
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I know what you mean. I came from a 4S to a Nokia N9 (same pentile screen) and had alot of doubt concerning that type of screen. Now i don't notice it and really like the vivid colors it gives. In the beginning it was a bit harsh on my eyes but that is all gone. When i see my wifes 4S screen the colors looks washed out compared to the clear black on my N9.
I don't love the screen (then it should've been an amoled rgb matrix clear black), but it's grown on me and I've come to like it alot and think it looks good.
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I can't find any moire effects. Maybe I am not looking closely enough.
I really like the display though.
I guess it's only noticeable if you came from a phone with a better display. My last phone was a SEw995i so the screen looks flawless to me
Coming from an HTC Mozart I really like the display. If I compare this to the HTC Mozart, it's much better, the dark theme now looks really dark, instead of washed out black (more gray).
There's no moire effect on mine at all. Just some line bleeding with black text on white background. But line bleeding and moire are two totally different things and I can tolerate the occasional line bleeding as I hardly ever notice it.
The screen is awesome and I've gotten used to the pentile. Things like the clearblack and the response time of the display is the best I've seen. Things doesn't smudge very easily when they are moving on the display as they often do on RGB displays.
Now I almost prefer a pentile display because of it's positive sides. The colors are very true too. When I compare photos on it right next to my 30" Eizo SX3031 wide gamut display which is a display for graphics/photo editing they look pretty identical to each other.
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Now I almost prefer a pentile display because of it's positive sides.
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The colors looked washed out. hey, I just got my z ultra from singapore and everythin seems too bright and washed out.
I'm on version .510
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The colors looked washed out. hey, I just got my z ultra from singapore and everythin seems too bright and washed out.
I'm on version .510
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defected unit.
Yeah, the screen definitely doesn't look washed out on a properly working unit.
Must be a lemon.
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The Ultra's screen is nothing short of breathtaking, you've got a defective unit.
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Turn off that optimised backlight under display then you'll see how good the screen can be!
You know, I went back and forth numerous times between having the optimized backlight off and on, and I could never tell any difference. I'm convinced it's the placebo effect making people think they see a difference.
If you're coming from Samsung, then you will see a difference, this screen has much more natural colours and it takes a little getting used to.
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You know, I went back and forth numerous times between having the optimized backlight off and on, and I could never tell any difference. I'm convinced it's the placebo effect making people think they see a difference.
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I agree with you, no difference at all on my unit.
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If you're coming from Samsung, then you will see a difference, this screen has much more natural colours and it takes a little getting used to.
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I agree with you 100%, I am from Samsung Note2 and the screen does look a bit dull especially with white backgrounds in SMS app or others.
One strange thing that the center "horizontal" area seems to be perfect white while the top and bottom of the screen have a brown / yellowish shade to it. This has been irritating me and I am trying to ignore it
I got mine just last night and absolutely love it other than this small issue with the screen. I wonder if I need to take it back to Sony CS for a comparison with another set?
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The colors looked washed out. hey, I just got my z ultra from singapore and everythin seems too bright and washed out.
I'm on version .510
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I agree. Was comparing iPhone 5 and samsung note 2 with z ultra. The z ultra seems pale in colors and doesn't have good contrast/black.
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The colors looked washed out. hey, I just got my z ultra from singapore and everythin seems too bright and washed out.
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after some comparison
I found that it's washed out indeed,, but ONLY IN GOOGLE PLAY
(compare the green button "apps" to some green app icon on home(exp Line) back and forth,,, it's really easy to see that the green in Google Play are washed out)
I dont know what kind of tweak sony done to google apps but after some test and comparison,,, it seems to be the case
anyone agree?
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ok,,,,after messing around with it now i found not not only Google Play is washed out
other google apps are also washed out like gmail and such,,,,,,
Now that you mention it, the Gmail app on mine does seem to be a little...I don't know that I'd say "washed out," but for sure the text looks less contrasty. Images don't seem to be affected, though, and the display is brilliant everywhere else.
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Now that you mention it, the Gmail app on mine does seem to be a little...I don't know that I'd say "washed out," but for sure the text looks less contrasty. Images don't seem to be affected, though, and the display is brilliant everywhere else.
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after some further comparison between the same pic file displayed on different displays(including my desktop;screenshot'ed the google play interface on different phones and compared it on my desktop;etc)
i found, at least this time - -! , i think rather than the tweak by sony,, it's actually that our eyes got too accustomized to the over saturated green on samsung AMOLED devices,,, the green of google play/gmail/etc compared to samsung device did look washed out,, but thats becasue that's the accurate color google initially intended,,
Thing is, I've never owned an AMOLED phone. :/ Anyway, it's the text on mine, not images.
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Thing is, I've never owned an AMOLED phone. :/ Anyway, it's the text on mine, not images.
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id admit im obssessed with this problem and till now done many comparison,,
(detailed in the thread i made: ,,,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472114)
and got to the conclusion,,the screen is indeed wased out , and colors are "light"/less vibrant,, but it wasnt due to defect but rather intended by sony
Just some food for thought.
I am sure you all realise that you are trying to compare different types of screen technology? Let me give an example to help perhaps?
Plasma V LCD or LCD-LED TV's. What produces 'the best' picture? Non of them, they are different. Since the LCD TV has been introduced it was supposed to be the demise of the 'old plasma' screens. Not the case at all and many top brands still make plasma screens that are superior in some aspects to the newer LCD- LCD-LED group.
I am afraid to write that it will come down to choice and preference. I went from Samsung screens to Sony and back to Samsung in terms of phone. I didn't want to as I have a preference for the type of screen Sony produces. I shall be keeping my Xperia 10.1 tablet as the screen just amazes me. The screen on the Note 3 that I now own is back to these over saturated colours and odd definition and contrast. No choice for me as the Ultra is just too big so I had to go back to Samsung but....
Its rather folly to even try and compare an apple with an orange just the same with different screen technology. One can purchase a lemon in any brand. I think to write that the ultra screen looks "washed out" is difficult as it could be a lemon. In general the new screens coming from Sony are very vibrant and more importantly realistic in colour reproduction and tone.
Choice will be ones buying strategy. Manufacturers have been trying to kill of Plasma screens for years but cant as they have something other screen don't.
Regards
I have to disagree. Those tech are replacing older ones cause they obviously produces more correct representation of colours and faster refresh rates. Except plasma which still produces one of the est colour, but unfortunately cant be made in higher resolution because of its inherent limitation. I have to say my preference has always been about correctness. I was hoping someone would say its a defective unit and the good unit would produce display similar to iphone or samsung. But i guess my upgrade have to wait until i am aure the display is at least as good as the IPS-LCD which iphone uses.
Ryland Johnson said:
Just some food for thought.
I am sure you all realise that you are trying to compare different types of screen technology? Let me give an example to help perhaps?
Plasma V LCD or LCD-LED TV's. What produces 'the best' picture? Non of them, they are different. Since the LCD TV has been introduced it was supposed to be the demise of the 'old plasma' screens. Not the case at all and many top brands still make plasma screens that are superior in some aspects to the newer LCD- LCD-LED group.
I am afraid to write that it will come down to choice and preference. I went from Samsung screens to Sony and back to Samsung in terms of phone. I didn't want to as I have a preference for the type of screen Sony produces. I shall be keeping my Xperia 10.1 tablet as the screen just amazes me. The screen on the Note 3 that I now own is back to these over saturated colours and odd definition and contrast. No choice for me as the Ultra is just too big so I had to go back to Samsung but....
Its rather folly to even try and compare an apple with an orange just the same with different screen technology. One can purchase a lemon in any brand. I think to write that the ultra screen looks "washed out" is difficult as it could be a lemon. In general the new screens coming from Sony are very vibrant and more importantly realistic in colour reproduction and tone.
Choice will be ones buying strategy. Manufacturers have been trying to kill of Plasma screens for years but cant as they have something other screen don't.
Regards
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Guzprom said:
I have to disagree. Those tech are replacing older ones cause they obviously produces more correct representation of colours and faster refresh rates. Except plasma which still produces one of the est colour, but unfortunately cant be made in higher resolution because of its inherent limitation. I have to say my preference has always been about correctness. I was hoping someone would say its a defective unit and the good unit would produce display similar to iphone or samsung. But i guess my upgrade have to wait until i am aure the display is at least as good as the IPS-LCD which iphone uses.
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You begin by disagreeing then write exactly what I have written
No problem.:highfive:
I have to say, I never had an AMOLED device, but I love the colors of the XZU.
It doesn't look washed out at all, the colors are indeed a lot like the colors on my IPS PC-monitors in color-boost modus (which means the colors are even more colorful than they are normally).
There are devices where the colors look washed out, e.g. the Nexus 4 and 7, but definitely not on the XZU.
If you think the colors are looking washed out you either got a defective unit or you have a very strange impression of what colors should look like.
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You begin by disagreeing then write exactly what I have written
No problem.:highfive:
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Thanks, i guess. Lol.
Lets just say if the display unit I was comparing was 80pc like an iphone in color and depth of black. Or like a plasma tv. I would have bought it already. Ill wait and see for now.. cheers