Why doesn't the dev section require approved topics? It would really help clean the place up. Apparently people are f'ing retarded and just post all their questions there.
Or maybe rename this subforum "ASK QUESTIONS HERE".
Agreed. how about this. To start a thread in dev section you must X amount of thanks. That way n newer people can still comment on preexisting threads.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
At some point it is just too hard to monitor, especially with volunteer staff.
And yes, there are a lot of people who post in the wrong sections, but the majority are the NOobs, so they get on tract eventually
My take is requiring people to pass a reading test, that would solve most of the problems.......
i don't think its THAT much of a problem its just a few threads, and as the guy above me stated, they figure it out within that same day because they get flamed in that thread, and they learned their lesson.
Noobs will be noobs, i'm sure you've done it once too.
da_dragon2k3 said:
Agreed. how about this. To start a thread in dev section you must X amount of thanks. That way n newer people can still comment on preexisting threads.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Back in the G1 days devs like cyanogen and haykuro started as new members. The next game changing dev could be just lurking and not posting.
Ppl just need to learn how to read and have forum etiquette.
Hi Moderator,
Don't take me otherwise. While I am surfing this forum, I can see hell lots of stupid things floating around. Some Rom threads are filing with stupid personal arguments. Lots of threads need to be close as thread's purpose has resolved. If you want I can point it out for you. we know you are doing your job and believe me you are good at it. What I request you is do some initiative to avoid these silly stuffs.
Senior Members,
it's kinda hard to maintain a forum for anyone. As our device a budget phone yet powerful, so we are having hell lots of user and their queries. So
Urge you please give some suggestions so that we can avoid spaming, can also be beneficial for new and senior members.
Aside to new users,
Guys keep your queries thread specific.
Thank you
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
+1 man. There should be an all in one frequent asked question sticky thread. Most users of the O1 are first time rooters so I don't blame them as much because I had my share of questions.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App
If the devs could moderate at least their own threads, it would be a different story altogether. Those ROM/kernel threads could be shrinked 80% in size and only useful stuff left.
(Still would not solve the useless junk elsewhere but one could ignore it.)
Dear moderator, could you kindly go through the major development threads (current ROMs, franco kernel) and wipe all the bloody noise outta there.
I will not use a report post function because about every second post is off-topic n00b crap that plain does not belong there, so your PM inbox would get full soon. Not to mention that apparently noone cares about the crippled "report post" function that was discussed in xda-general.
This forum is becoming seriously harmed by useless noise. Some action, please!!!
doktornotor said:
Dear moderator, could you kindly go through the major development threads (current ROMs, franco kernel) and wipe all the bloody noise outta there.
I will not use a report post function because about every second post is off-topic n00b crap that plain does not belong there, so your PM inbox would get full soon. Not to mention that apparently noone cares about the crippled "report post" function that was discussed in xda-general.
This forum is becoming seriously harmed by useless noise. Some action, please!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will vote for this..it's true that new members are so curious to know new things. But they should understand what to ask and at-least where to ask.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
I have created a FAQ thread here. Please give your inputs
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App
sweetbinodray said:
Hi Moderator,
Don't take me otherwise. While I am surfing this forum, I can see hell lots of stupid things floating around. Some Rom threads are filing with stupid personal arguments. Lots of threads need to be close as thread's purpose has resolved. If you want I can point it out for you. we know you are doing your job and believe me you are good at it. What I request you is do some initiative to avoid these silly stuffs.
Senior Members,
it's kinda hard to maintain a forum for anyone. As our device a budget phone yet powerful, so we are having hell lots of user and their queries. So
Urge you please give some suggestions so that we can avoid spaming, can also be beneficial for new and senior members.
Aside to new users,
Guys keep your queries thread specific.
Thank you
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 dude... the forum needs a nice and gud cleaning....
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App
I know there are a lot of talented and knowledgeable people in this forum. Won't somebody please make a better app than TapaTalk? The search function in this app is awful. Search a subject and the every post where the subject is somewhere hidden, comes up. Why did I pay for an app that I have to resort to Google's search engine to do a better job than the app for it's supported forums?
Surely some talented dev, wants to make some serious money?? How often do they update this app anyway?? How many of you guys and gals, do this for free and are constantly working on improving and updating your work?
This app is prime for a take down! The best thing about this app is that makes the forum easier to read on mobile devices. Heck, small businesses get local developers to make a site that will work on smaller screens?
How many thousands of people use this app? I personally don't know anything about the technical side. I do have a good ear for business and I'm hearing ching, ching.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
I agree. I don't like the way handles photo attachments.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
.
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
orb3000 said:
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OMG, the first rule is search before posting. That's the whole point of trying to get a developer to create a forum tool with a more effective search function! That's it you got me! I'll ban myself from posting here. You all are just too important!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules. Everyone knows that developers that do all they can to break code and contact rules abide by the rules they make with a 2 strike your out mentality.
It's ok...next time you waiver they will fluff themselves up and give you an infraction, he might even explain why in a non robotic voice.
---------- Post added at 05:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:56 AM ----------
zelendel said:
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And...not so much any more.
back on topic..
he is right..
Tapatalk search function sucks..
we give newies a hard time for posting the same question time and time again
in a rom yet..tapatalk is one of the prime tools used to access these same forums..
the XDA app has been crap for ages.. so I havent looked back at it.. maybe I need to..
But Search and Tapatalk before you post a question.. null and void..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
I agree D...and if there are other threads with the same topic the mods should close it and not flame it.
zelendel said:
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
dgcruzing said:
I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
zelendel said:
Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Zelendel, you have been around for a while..so we both know there are a lot of great minds at work on here ..
not driven by any dallor value..Not debateable..
But the facts of this thread is to open debate that maybe' just maybe...
the main mobile forum readers used at present are not as good as they are cracked to be.
tapatalk and even the xda website search functions are not well designed..
They both lead to complancy by posters both mobile and online..
And there is room for improvement..
If this comes from a $$$ driven developer then so be it.. if he had restated it as a bounty..(monetary incentive) I am sure you wouldn't take offence to this
Back to topic, As an example of a good search function on a forum site is on
Hotcopper.com.au,
its a stock site but the accuracy and narrow searches allowed make it a breeze to find current and past posts on topic, stocks, or posters
This should be compared to what is available on xda to see if there could be improvements made..
Also xda could ask the tapatalk developers ever so nicely to look into beefing up their search function..
As you have suggested one to use, I should have a look at it..
I like the mikmik forum reader but as its just linked into theirs at the moment I don't know if they bigger plans for it..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
justifi said:
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
zelendel said:
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And yet....without users...where would you be?!
Buddyfunlove said:
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Buddy for your they-probably-won't -admit-it-but-its-true comment. This is why I don't post here.
da2zoe said:
It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
And yet....without users...where would you be?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
zelendel said:
The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think there is anything wrong with making money from what you love to do. Most people strive for that. I wasn't suggesting that someone open up shop in XDA. We all have to learn from somewhere.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
zelendel said:
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
fish1552 said:
I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
zelendel said:
Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For those that go deeper and deeper into things...XDA is great..
This age of computing so far has allowed a break away from the locked in
Software systems that we were forced into since really MS took over DOS with windows front ends
I won't even go into apple o/s speak..
Openware/shareware as the apps market now could be termed allows for us the end users direct input
With the developers to push for better products..thus XDA is the medium that brings the two together..
Like it or not at the moment its the worlds premier focal point for this..
So I understand how the purists must be shaking their heads..
Sad but true a lot of talented developers are going back underground, to less known parts of the web to cook
So then it leaves XDA holding the front so to speak..
Its all good and a big thanks to the mods for keeping it semi under control..
Its a jungle out there...
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
I agree with all of your most recent post. Now that, I've cooled off a bit :thumbup:. It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
orb3000 said:
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
justifi said:
Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 Justifi
Hey i have a blog and here are too many threads for the same question and too many answers to solve them ..... so what i want to do is take people's question and answers to make a FAQ forum on my blog ... and also using names and links you guys provide for downloading .... i will obviously give you guys a backlink and all credits ...
The only think i wanna ask is can i use your work and links on my blog ... i mean will the developers MIND it ??
nicolasenjay said:
Hey i have a blog and here are too many threads for the same question and too many answers to solve them ..... so what i want to do is take people's question and answers to make a FAQ forum on my blog ... and also using names and links you guys provide for downloading .... i will obviously give you guys a backlink and all credits ...
The only think i wanna ask is can i use your work and links on my blog ... i mean will the developers MIND it ??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think they probably would mind. Support is also best handled here by the creators of such work.
nicolasenjay said:
Hey i have a blog and here are too many threads for the same question and too many answers to solve them ..... so what i want to do is take people's question and answers to make a FAQ forum on my blog ... and also using names and links you guys provide for downloading .... i will obviously give you guys a backlink and all credits ...
The only think i wanna ask is can i use your work and links on my blog ... i mean will the developers MIND it ??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not only is against xda policy, its definitely not a good idea. The Q & A subsections are here for a reason. As for posting download links you will get banned from xda, and you can forget about asking devs for permission because they wont (and cant.) You can freely blog about what roms you like, their features, etc.. but you must only provide links to their xda location. Even if you developed a rom yourself and posted it on xda you would still be required to abide by these rules. Honestly you should shut down the Q & A section of your blog asap and post a direct link to the Q & A section here instead.
well i was just wondering
str8upx said:
Not only is against xda policy, its definitely not a good idea. The Q & A subsections are here for a reason. As for posting download links you will get banned from xda, and you can forget about asking devs for permission because they wont (and cant.) You can freely blog about what roms you like, their features, etc.. but you must only provide links to their xda location. Even if you developed a rom yourself and posted it on xda you would still be required to abide by these rules. Honestly you should shut down the Q & A section of your blog asap and post a direct link to the Q & A section here instead.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey thanks for replying ..i've just wondering i have not done anything like that ..so just for knowledge
Thread closed
Would you please stop posting these kind of threads in the Original Android Development section?
Threads like this should belong to General section/Themes or atmost Android Development sub forums.
For example, this very thread should belong to General section as its a share work.
Please try to keep the sub forums clean.
Thanks,
corphish said:
Would you please stop posting these kind of threads in the Original Android Development section?
Threads like this should belong to General section/Themes or atmost Android Development sub forums.
For example, this very thread should belong to General section as its a share work.
Please try to keep the sub forums clean.
Thanks,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad to see you are back.
I'm mentioning the mods.
BatDroid said:
Glad to see you are back.
I'm mentioning the mods.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should mention the mods to remove the topic !!!
Guys Please , don't share or take parts of any other thread with out the permission of the OP creator ! and at lease give some credit to him .
I don't mean to flame or disrespect you , but that annoys very much
LahKeda said:
You should mention the mods to remove the topic !!!
Guys Please , don't share or take parts of any other thread with out the permission of the OP creator ! and at lease give some credit to him .
I don't mean to flame or disrespect you , but that annoys very much
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok.
I'm mentioning mods to close this.