So between Google Music and Pandora, which uses more data (if at all)?
If I listen to the full length of "Song A" in Gmusic and then the same song in Pandora, will one program use more data to play said song?
Been wondering about that for a couple weeks.
IIRC Pandora does some type of 'read ahead' where it will cache or buffer the music you are listening to.. kinda like satellite radio does in case you go under a bridge or something..
I streamed Pandora for a week once in the past and the data usage wasn't what I imagined it would be.. (this was some time ago too)..
Sorry for lack of details, but this is all I have..
You could grab some type of data usage counter and allow your phone to sit idle for 20 minutes to get a base to compare to.. play 1 song w/ google music, then the same song w/ pandora and compare the usage ?
Just stabbing at ideas..
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Either that or up your sample size so that the smaller denominators become insignificant. Try a playlist of 10 songs or something on both players.
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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I cache my favorite radio stations on Slacker Radio to my SD card while on wifi to save data usage..
Which uses more depends on the bitrate they stream it at. Can't say for sure because I've never really looked into it but my guess is Google Music would be streamed at a higher bitrate than Pandora. Its just a guess though.
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Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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im not worried at all about data usage.. im grandfather in for the unlim
Im just curious, thats all
I would assume Pandora uses less bandwidth because every song is optimized for streaming, especially if you choose the 'low quality' selection under Pandoras settings.
Your music library collection may have much larger song files with higher bitrates that have been poorly compressed or maybe with very high quality making it use more bandwidth.
It really depends on your library. Both google music and Pandora have buffers, so that shouldn't factor in against Pandora.
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Are there any other apps out there like Spotify (i cant afford the subscription each month)
I basically want to open the app, search for an artist and be able to play some of there songs
Im only interested in audio as my mobile network coverage is not great so i dont want to be wasting bandwith on video when i wont be looking at the screen
Thanks for looking
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Are there any other apps out there like Spotify (i cant afford the subscription each month)
I basically want to open the app, search for an artist and be able to play some of there songs
Im only interested in audio as my mobile network coverage is not great so i dont want to be wasting bandwith on video when i wont be looking at the screen
Thanks for looking
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We7 does one but it expires after a period of time, you could try last.fm if you don't mind just selecting an artist and getting random songs from them, it works really well!
As I remembered there was a free version of Grooveshark.
looks like grooveshark is subscription now
I'm pretty certain I heard talk recently of Last.fm only being available on mobile devices for premium subscribers. Not sure if this is something they've implemented yet.
yeh not getting last.fm working either
i found a prog called tinyshark which is supposed to work with grooveshark (apparently subscription free) but it wont stream...need adobe flash
Soundcloud has some artists on won't be 100 percent though
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The new We7 app looks like your best bet. You can't select specific songs like you can with Spotify but you can search for artists and genres and listen to random songs. It also allows offline listening now which is pretty sweet, and best of all it's totally free! There is also a premium version which lets you search for individual songs/albums etc.
Check out the market link below.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.we7.player&feature=search_result
i use music on line lite from the market found it to be really good just type in title artist or album and it will do a search and just press play on which song you want to play
There's one included with the phone. It's called "FM Radio". Guaranteed free of charge . Seriously speaking, the quality is OK as long as you are in a city or close enough to a broadcast tower. Not too much to choose from, but better than nothing.
i use "QueueTube" it streams only audio from YouTube. and you can add/remove songs (YT audio) to/from playlist just by long-press the song tittle... and since youtube has everything this app became my no.1 song streaming app.
hope i helped!
What features would you like to see added/removed, and are you happy with it compared to the stock music app, or how do you feel it stacks up against another music app.
*This is a general topic, and I'm just curious to see the community's response.*
I don't use it. It doesn't have features I need.
Namely, ability to keep the screen from sleeping, and the ability to limit where it looks for music at.
i like gmusic. I dont use it daily (I use slacker daily) but gmusic works great when I do need it. Its far more reliable than when it first came out, so they're definitely making progress.
My only complaint is when I flash a new rom, it registers my phone as a new device so it adds it to gmusic (which is great) but google limits it to 8 devices. So occasionally I need to go into gmusic website and delete my old devices, which is all the same phone. Its not really a complaint for google but i wish there was a way for it to detect that its the same device/IMEI
I personally love google music I use it daily. I have a computer for school and don't want to cramp it up with music so I can stream everything. Also I use my phone in my truck for music and it is nice to have access to all my music when I need it.
Absolutely love it. I have my entire collection stored. My main problem lies when I'm doing file management and the media scanner starts while I'm playing music. Google Music stops streaming completely and I have to manually restart it. I turned caching off, so that the song being played is solely dependent on the connection, but it still does it. I suppose it stops to look for new songs that might have been added. I'd like it to at least resume playback when scanning stops.
The other thing is with optimization I guess. In my last billing cycle, I got throttled and streaming was impossible (as expected). However, Pandora was still able to stream entire songs, for long sessions without stutter (it just took longer between songs). I'm curious if it'd be possible for them to improve performance on slow networks, so that it's on par with Pandora.
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General is something related directly to the phone or an app that comes stock with the phone. GoogleMusic does not fit that description since it has to be installed by the user and not everyone uses it. This should have been in Themes and Apps. Just sayin'.
I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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That'd be boss. Maybe in a future update?
I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
i like it on my zoom and Google TV. But I wish it would sync playlist too. A good playlist takes time and it wouldn't be nice to listen to them on phone, tablet and TV. The main thing that make be go back to the Samsung music player is that while connected to my Bluetooth stereo it shows track info on the stereo but the Google music doesn't. Not a big thing, but enough to keep me using the samsung player. If those two were fixed it would be a perfect player.
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I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
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I too converted, and couldn't be happier.
Absolutely love Google music. No complaints here, it works great. I'm really happy that Google came out with this app, I show everyone with an Android phone.
im using PowerAmp i think its better than gMusic
Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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Just click on the song you purchased and click download. It will let you download it at 320k and no drm. Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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I would really like to be able to download my music that was uploaded to google music. I had everything in itunes also, and one day after it was all uploaded itunes moved everything without me knowing it and that file got deleted on accident. Of course i didn't care at the time because nothing should have been there. Thanks itunes.
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Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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Automagically? I missed that. Cool.
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My only complaint is the shuffle feature isnt very good at all, I only have a library of about 400 songs yet some songs I never hear when I use shuffle all n some songs I will hear twice in a 10 song span. I use gmusic daily n love it other than that.
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Love it!!!
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I wish there was a way to manage the songs on the server from the phone. I sent all my music to the server and now run across songs (when in shuffle) that I no longer want. Would like to delete the song off the server from my phone.
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Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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uhh, yes it can...
I need to know what/how people are syncing their music with their phones. I purchased MediaMonkey for me and my gf (we both have I777) and was able to sync my playlist in MediaMonkey to the phone. However, I messed up the playlist. I added a file to the root of the external SD card called '.isaudioplayer' and that caused the m3u file to have incorrect paths. When I viewed the m3u file in a text editor on the phone, It said F:/Music/yadda. Obviously, F: is wrong. How are your playlists listed? Thanks for the assistance!
have you thought about using google music? No need to sync your music at all. Just stream from the app.
+1 on google music, I use it every day and love it
I have Google Music. I don't like it. The Android app sucks. I tell it to only play local music, and it plays online music anyway. The app won't reload it's list of music (after an upload to the SD card). I have to reboot the phone to get the app to see the new music. I have uploaded my library to Google Music, but I wasn't finished tagging the library correctly. So basically, I need to finish tagging the library correctly, erase everything on Google Music, and then re-upload. Then create playlists. Not to mention the fact, that I have MythTV at home to play music in my living room, and Subsonic to stream music to the phone/work desktop. I hate having to create playlists. That's the worst thing in the world. If Google actually created/released APIs for Google music, then MediaMonkey/MythTV could integrate (not to mention the really cool CM9 inspired new Music app out there).
I also received a message from AT&T telling me I was in the top 5% of users this month. I find that completely unbelievable. I only stream music for ~20 minutes a day. Be it from home via Subsonic, or Google Music. So having it local helps. Not to mention the GF is on my plan now, but we only gave her 2GBs. That will just be eaten up by Google Music.
But the biggest issue is I want the music on my phone because when I hit the fitness room in the basement of my office, I get 0 WLAN bars and 0 3G bars. So I need local music. GF also has the issue of signal strength where she goes.
Does anyone have a playlist.m3u file I could look at to see the proper format of the file? Also, is there anyone else like me out there that actually puts music on their phones now?
I tried media monkey, but ultimately it didn't work out for me. What I ended up doing was using winamp on the computer to sync my music and playlists to my phone, actually my SD card. I lose the ability to do wireless sync, but I like keeping all of my music on the external memory. Also, I didn't really like the winamp for android, so I switched to using playerpro. The playlists and everything work out very nicely, and they stay in sync.
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iSyncr or doubleTwist Airsync i'd suggest looking into. They are probably the top of the list aside from Google Music.
I've been using doubleTwist and it is everything i could need however it comes with a whole new Media Program to install (stills syncs with iTunes though).
iSyncr is nice if you only want to use iTunes because it's basically an "addon" and this way you don't need a whole new media managing program.
Google Music is very basic and simple. You might as well get it anyways as a backup but I don't personally like the app/online management of music; it is just too difficult to edit files. However if you want to go this route you can get Google Music Importer which will let you save the music you pin for offline mode from within the android app to be used in other music app's (otherwise you are forced with always using the Google Music app to play the music from online).
Tried iSync and doubletwist and settled on iSync. so I keep my music on itunes and just sync with the phone.
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I used iSyncr for a while, worked great, but I hated being tied down to iTunes. Bought MediaMonkey and, after some configs, I love it.
I have it set so that songs are:
/sdcard/MediaMonkey/Music/songs
And playlists:
/sdcard/MediaMonkey/Music/playlists
And I have the playlists to have relative paths, so drive letters don't matter.
PlayerPro works just fine with this setup. So does PowerAMP.
Here's my device config XML, just import in MediaMonkey if you like.
Syncing? What's that?
I just copy everything I want to listen to, to /my_music on the internal storage.
Edit: I don't use playlists either, blegh.
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Tried iSync and doubletwist and settled on iSync. so I keep my music on itunes and just sync with the phone.
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Thanks for the suggestions all. We are trying to move away from iTunes at home. The fact is that iTunes on Windows doesn't support FLAC audio. It does on OS X, but I'm not going that route. I guess I just deal with the faults of MediaMonkey. But really, if anyone can just attach their m3u file that WORKS on the Android phone, then I'd be grateful. Thanks!
I will upload a few sample m3u files when I get onto a computer.
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I linked you how to get MediaMonkey working perfectly for sync...
I use MediaMonkey. I have 40K+ songs to choose from to sync to a 32GB card, so I select a few playlists of select songs to fill it up. Auto-syncs every time I plug the MicroSD card into the computer (I hate having to shut the phone off, but I found syncing to be faster when the card is directly plugged in versus plugging the phone in).
No problems here. Syncing is fast and never have any issues.
I use iSyncr. Support for iTunes Smart playlist is a must for how I manage a series of ever changing playlists. Because it also maintains the correct smart playlist order (something that Apple messed up with iTunes 10.5/iOS5 on my iPod Touch) it syncs music better than iTunes does for my iPod.
Well I finally got this working. I found out that simply RIGHT clicking on a playlist, and telling it to sync to the mounted I777 will sync the music in that playlist, but NOT the actual playlist. Pretty crappy design in my opinion.
I figured it out last night. In Media Monkey, go to your device you want to sync. In the AUTO-SYNC tab, click on the playlists in the left pane of the device window. Then choose the playlists you want to auto-sync. Then go to the OPTIONS tab in that same device window, and tell it to "Create Playlists for:" and choose "Synced Playlists" (I'm not in front of MM now, but it's something like that option). Then tell it to use relative paths, and to swap the "\" for the "/". Done and done. PITA.
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Well I finally got this working. I found out that simply RIGHT clicking on a playlist, and telling it to sync to the mounted I777 will sync the music in that playlist, but NOT the actual playlist. Pretty crappy design in my opinion.
I figured it out last night. In Media Monkey, go to your device you want to sync. In the AUTO-SYNC tab, click on the playlists in the left pane of the device window. Then choose the playlists you want to auto-sync. Then go to the OPTIONS tab in that same device window, and tell it to "Create Playlists for:" and choose "Synced Playlists" (I'm not in front of MM now, but it's something like that option). Then tell it to use relative paths, and to swap the "\" for the "/". Done and done. PITA.
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I don't know why you chose to ignore my post with the MediaMonkey configuration that had all of that work done...
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I don't know why you chose to ignore my post with the MediaMonkey configuration that had all of that work done...
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I left work early, and didn't see it. Sorry. I really appreciate you posting it though!
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I left work early, and didn't see it. Sorry. I really appreciate you posting it though!
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Okay. Welcome!
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I also received a message from AT&T telling me I was in the top 5% of users this month. I find that completely unbelievable. I only stream music for ~20 minutes a day. Be it from home via Subsonic, or Google Music. So having it local helps. Not to mention the GF is on my plan now, but we only gave her 2GBs. That will just be eaten up by Google Music.
But the biggest issue is I want the music on my phone because when I hit the fitness room in the basement of my office, I get 0 WLAN bars and 0 3G bars. So I need local music. GF also has the issue of signal strength where she goes.
Does anyone have a playlist.m3u file I could look at to see the proper format of the file? Also, is there anyone else like me out there that actually puts music on their phones now?
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Google Music's online streaming uses A LOT of data. Even for 20 minutes worth. GM single handedly made me go over my data. They need to fix that. The only way around it is making songs available offline.
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Music streaming from google music is the same as everything else. A song is roughly 6mb, 20 minutes would be around 30mb downloaded. It does take an extreme about of data usage and other then uploading lower quality songs not much will change it. Make sure you don't have "download high quality"option in settings checked.
You can also pin songs to keep them usable offline.
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I've been using the iHeartRadio app which lets me listen to the stations I really want to listen to, but the problem is that it keeps the processor at the top two steps speed wise.
Anyone know of one that will not keep the processor this high and therefore hopefully reduce my battery use while listening to streaming music?
If it is any consolation, my Iheartradio devours battery too. So much that I stopped using it completely. I've been using Tune-in for awhile but the most recent builds, seem to keep firing up in the background even after I FC them. I don't like that. I reverted to a previous build but mainly I listen to Mp3's or Jango (fka Radiotime). But I would be interested in know of another app too that works like Iheart.
Little tip: Any music app that has a cache system, i.e. Jango, Pandora, Stitcher will drastically conserve battery power b/c it isn't constantly pulling in data over the internet. It pulls it in and caches it so that you can pause and play at will or even come back later on to the same song. Apps like Iheartradio MLB At-Bat and the like that run a live stream, are power hungry, so beware. Muhahaha!!!
Yea, unfortunately I use it to listen to talk radio so there's not much that could be done in the form of caching. My only other option would be to find out if I could find another way of listening to my favorite hosts' shows via something that can be cached.
** EDIT ** Unfortunately I think all the shows I want to listen to require you to subscribe to the show's membership to be able to get the podcasts instead of listening to them live.
So, I have a station or two that I like to listen to while riding my bike. A lot of times I go out of 4g. I would like to (repeatedly) record an hour or so onto the internal memory (or sd card) so I can easily listen later. Is there an easy way to do this?
Also would like to do the same with SoundCloud and the like.
Thoughts?
What I do is subscribe to Google Play Music. It let's you create playlists that you can then download for offline listening. It also has a radio feature that will select songs simiar to the genre/artist/album/song you want to listen to, which you can also download for offline use. It costs $10/month for a single person, or $15/month for up to 6 people. While it isn't HiFi music, they have a decent selection, and it can be played on other devices too.
I have Spotify and Pandora, so I have a few options for music...I am trying specifically to record from a radio station that I really like.
Anyone?
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I have Spotify and Pandora, so I have a few options for music...I am trying specifically to record from a radio station that I really like.
Anyone?
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Tunein Radio (paid) will allow you to record any station that you can open in the app. It has a surprisingly large amount of local radio stations by area. It also use to have an option to manually add stations on their webpage but that seems to have been removed.
What I would really like to do is record from my Sirius Xm online app.
Anyone have thoughts on that?
(Xm really doesn't want you doing that!)