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OK so I'm note sure if I got a bum s pen or what but its driving me nuts. It seems where ever I press it reads way off. Like if I use it to type for instance say I press the letter "L" the tablet registers it as and "O". Or if I'm drawing the lines are way off from where the tip of the pen is touching at least a few millimeters off which makes drawing almost impossible. Think I should exchange it? Just got it in the mail yesterday
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lunercrab said:
OK so I'm note sure if I got a bum s pen or what but its driving me nuts. It seems where ever I press it reads way off. Like if I use it to type for instance say I press the letter "L" the tablet registers it as and "O". Or if I'm drawing the lines are way off from where the tip of the pen is touching at least a few millimeters off which makes drawing almost impossible. Think I should exchange it? Just got it in the mail yesterday
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I had the same issue like this one.
Try this:
If your auto rotation is enabled, disable it .. then enable it .. then try you rotate your phone from portrait to landscape > then rotate back to portrait then > Go to S-memo then draw a line .. the line should be fixed.
If you auto rotation is disabled, just enabled it, .. rotate phone to landscape .. then rotate back to portrait and try open s-memo .. draw a line and it should be fixed.
This is a freaking annoying bug. It happened to me 4x already.
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lunercrab said:
OK so I'm note sure if I got a bum s pen or what but its driving me nuts. It seems where ever I press it reads way off. Like if I use it to type for instance say I press the letter "L" the tablet registers it as and "O". Or if I'm drawing the lines are way off from where the tip of the pen is touching at least a few millimeters off which makes drawing almost impossible. Think I should exchange it? Just got it in the mail yesterday
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I've called Samsung's mobile support line and was informed this was in fact normal (Because the demo unit they had did the same thing) and was designed to be slightly off so that you can watch as your draw.
I kid you not, these were her exact words. She also made it very clear that she was the highest level of support and it was basically her word against mine.
There are some what helpful threads on how to calibrate the s-pen, but it never seems to work (for me anyways).
I've found that holding the phone at about a 75 degree angle and using the S-Pen at slightly less than perpendicular to the display makes it extremely accurate. After drawing for a couple seconds it seems to auto-calibrate in that position. Trying some of the other calibration tips on the forum...sometimes they would work, sometimes they wouldn't. This one has worked every time for me.
Is there a way to "re-calibrate" the screen or change the sensitivity?
I have found that when I need to press a button near the corner of the screen, (like on a friendstream widget to refresh), I usually have to press it several times or use my pinky.
I'm thinking either the "alignment" is off or the sensitivity needs to be tweaked (maybe my fingers are too big)
When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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interesting, I'll have to keep an eye on that.
but I'm trying to hit a small button on the top right corner of the screen.
I have the issue I mentioned before when I'm holding the phone in landscape mode with the capacitive buttons on the right, the base of my index finger where it meets my hand barely touches the screen about a centimeter above the recent apps button. I don't use the FriendStream widget, as I don't use social networks at all, but if the button is too small, it may be that your fingers are too big, but more likely you are touching the screen somewhere else. I only figured it out when I took my right hand away from the screen and was still typing with my left and the keys were working much easier for me.
Try taking the hand you're not using to press the button and put it on the bottom of the phone to hold it steady, then, using your other hand, only touch the screen where the refresh button is with your largest finger and see if it works. It may seem like really basic troubleshooting, but sometimes that's the way to go.
Failing that, try to go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> HTC Sense Input -> Advanced settings -> Calibration tool
It only lets you type in portrait mode, which is kinda dumb since most typing is done in landscape mode, at least for me. It would be nice to at least have an option to do it in landscape.
Anyway, I hope one of these solutions helps.
can use this.
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can use this.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
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no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
lol, gotta read the directions my friend.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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Could be. Something's definitely wrong with my Weather app.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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Something definitely wrong with your screen then. Works like a champ for me.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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Excellent information; exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Yeah works good so far!
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I noticed most of the time when Knock On fails for me is because the phone isn't on a solid flat surface for example while I'm holding it in my hand or while it's on my bed.
This makes me think the accelermeter is used for this feature. So if you have too much "suspension", it won't trigger.
Just my thoughts!
Edit: I just tested with incredibly light touches and it still worked so perhaps it isn't accelerometer enabled. =S
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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yeah, i hear if you say "knock knock" out loud as you do it, it works EVERY time.
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Great tip
Exactly what i was looking for although still a bit slow compared with what i had with my Nexus 4 and the touch control app. But at least I just do Knock knock once.
That really does work everytime.
Nice tip. I have been playing around with suggestions that I have seen elsewhere but yours seems to be the most consistent (I've done it 25+ times now in a row with your technique). I've even tried changing the rate at which I do the knocks (fast versus slow) and have also tapped on different parts of the screen. It seems like the key is leaving your finger on the screen on the second knock.
Previously some things that I read to increase the success rate were (each with mixed results):
- Always tap on the top of the phone (where the notification bar would be)
- Always tap three times instead of two
- Tap once and then pause slightly and then tap twice
On a side note, does anyone know how this feature works exactly? Is it simply the digitizer detecting the taps on the screen or is there something else going on?
I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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Ya, after doing some more testing, it must be the touchscreen. The reason I thought it may have been something else is I have gotten it to work by tapping in the top right corner of the phone (presumably not on the screen) but that's probably b/c the bezel is so small. I haven't been able to get it to work along the bottom of the phone (over the LG logo).
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This! Works 99.9% of the time for me
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Fraxon said:
Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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This as well!!!
I hate it bc that's how I was when the first iPhone came out...made me want to pinch to zoom my laptop screen. Now I find myself tapping the iphone or laptop to unlock but get mad when they don't lol
Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Probably does that so it won't come on by "knocking" in your pocket. Not a big deal for me at all. And the OP's method is working 100% of the time fur me. No need for 3 knocks any more.
I'd like to confirm what don't others have said and say that the most common mistake is tapping too fast.
Correct that the knock on only uses the sensor to avoid turning the screen on in your pocket.
However, if the touch screen constantly listens for these knocks while it is turned off, shouldn't that consume at least a considerable amount of battery?
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Noam23 said:
What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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this is an excellent tip, thanks! I went from knock knock knock knock, to knock knock and hold and its worked every time for me..
Exellent tip thanks!
Works 100% of the time now! :good::victory::laugh:
This tip however, does not apply to turn off the device. Two quick taps (and release) takes care of that always!
Cheers!
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Noam23 said:
What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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sorry for this really really dumbass question but when u say "After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up"
i infer 1 knock (tap and lift finger) and then 2nd one is not actually a knock (tap and lift finger) but just tap and keep ur finger there itself
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is it 2 knocks and then (after second lift of finger) jst touch the screen again
good i really feel like dumbest dumb on this planet asking this question but please do reply
i dont yet have g2 but planning on buying it so i cant confirm myself what u meant
So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
I use mine to take up space in the junk drawer.
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So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
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If you don't know what to do with it by now you probably didn't need it.
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frettd said:
So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
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Once you figure out how to set up the buttons, it's a huge advantage playing games like Call of Duty or pubg. Tip, in order to "fire and look" at the same time in fps games like call of duty, you need to use the virtual joystick button (red and black) and put the assignment button (square box with the plus sign) half way on the "fire" button and half way off so when you press the lower right of the virtual joystick it'll fire shots while being able to look around and aim.
Havent used mine in weeks too battery draining for me, even when I wasnt using both screens... even tho I wanted it badly... to use as a virtual controller was meh...I just got a real one... then the dual screen forces you to have to use the stock launcher on it which got very annoying to me... then you toss on that its bulky and unattractive, I had to burn a hole in the earphone jack slot to make it bigger just to fit regular high end headphones, and then theres the magnetic charger which sucked... plus the phone drops its charging speed to 500mAh when the temperature reaches 38 degrees (very common temp if you play a heavy 3d game or are out in the sun) so trying to use the dual screens with the phone charging (trying to offset the battery issue) its super slow to get 1% increase... so yeah mines just sitting in a storage box right now.
the new one they are showing for the Velvet looks much better designed! Id consider purchasing an updated dual screen cover if it looked like the velvets, but its good to see they are working on improving the tech... I feel like the galaxys folding screen wouldve been a better option now that I have almost no use for this one at the moment. I just wanted to watch videos/movies in the background and use my phone at the same time but not if it means my phone will only get ~5-6 hours screen time which is like dead by 3pm of started at 9am.
Now I use a lot more of the built in multitasking like split screen and pop up window
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I've had S10, two S20's and now S21. They all have one thing in common... The fingerprint sensor does not work. I would guess my fingerprint success rate at about 20% accuracy. My S21 fingerprint sensor fails the first time every time. No matter how many times I re-enter my fingerprints. I thought the new fingerprint sensor in the S21 would be better, it isn't.
By accident, reading Flipboard, somebody posted a story on how to speed up android phones. I did what the article recommended. My phone did indeed seem faster, but there was an additional benefit, my fingerprint sensor went from 20% accuracy to well over 90%. Works almost every single time now.
Make sure developer mode is enabled (go to settings > about phone > tap build number a few times).
Go back to settings, at the bottom will be developer options > drawing section.
Three entries;
Window Animation Scale
Transition Animation Scale
Animator Duration Scale
All settings are default 1x.
Change all three settings to either .5x or zero.
Enjoy!
Sorry, but this solution doesn't make any sense.
Fingerprint on my S21 works great. Since dy one
goTouch said:
Sorry, but this solution doesn't make any sense.
Fingerprint on my S21 works great. Since dy one
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Oh, I guess that means mine works great too. And, nobody else has ever had a problem with the Samsung fingerprint sensor. Got it.
I mean, the animation scale has nothing to do with the fingerprint sensor. So it's not that his works great and yours doesn't, but it's like saying you can fix your car's engine if you just eat 3 extra apples per day. Nothing to do with one another.
What exactly is the reasoning behind how this helps the fingerprint sensor? and what exactly is it doing? Are there any downsides to this?
Like I was saying, I changed the settings just out of curiosity because the originator of the article mentioned that the changes make your phone appear to run faster. Nothing was mentioned about the fingerprint sensor. But, after making the changes, I immediately noticed that my fingerprint sensor started working. It was very dramatic as my sensor would fail the first time every time, and maybe 50% of the time on the second attempt. It was not unusual for me to have 5 failures in a row, locking the sensor for 30 seconds, multiple times a week.
My sister has a N20 Ultra and her sensor was so bad she quit using it. I contacted her about changing those settings, which she did, and her sensor started working too. This isn't my first rodeo, I've had a history with Samsung and their under display sensors. Mine has never worked going back to the S10.
I can't explain why changing these settings affect the sensor, but they do. I just changed back to 1x and my fingerprint sensor started failing just like it always has. Changed back to .5x and it starts working again. Sometimes I get the sense my sensor is not actually attempting to read fingerprint, just fails repeatedly. My guess is because the screen draws animations faster, the fingerprint sensor animation is faster too. Maybe that has something to do with it? So, analogy of car engine and apples isn't applicable. There might actually be some connection here.
Bottom line, it takes 30 seconds to change settings so you can easily do it and revert back just as quick. There seems to be nothing to lose, so...
I've noticed a substantial decrease in battery life with the changes from 1x to .5x. I reverted back to 1x and redid my fingerprints, once focusing on the center of the sensor and then a 2nd entry for the same finger focusing on the edges of the sensor. I'm going to have to live with this until the next non-Samsung phone comes along that I want to try...
Animation sucks up cpu, which slows down fingerprint.
No animation is best, what do I need fancy effects to tell me what I'm already doing lol
This entire thread reads like an April Fools joke.
This is the first time I am using on screen fingerprint reader. Absolutely hated it. However, over the days I have developed muscle memory and my finger goes to the correct spot. My accuracy went from 40 to 90% in the last month or so.
There are few things that can be done to improve finger print reader
- Use both the thumbs in one fingerprint
- Scanning along the edges of the scanner location.
THere are you tube videos that explain this in detail.
Additinal tip. I have enabled lift to wake and faceunlock as well. This has helped me faster unlock pretty much every time i pick up the phone.
PS: To me on the screen reader is more of a gimmick, it will take a few more generations to get this working very well for everyone.
There is space near the camera on the back where samsung could have place the reader.
This will give you additonal finger gesture features. Like in note 9 you can pull down and push up the norification bar and so on. ANyways this is a lost cause.
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Techvir said:
There are few things that can be done to improve finger print reader
- Use both the thumbs in one fingerprint
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Don't do this. Scan each thumb twice, and it will work better. I usually do my right thumb 3x, my left thumb once, and my pointer finger once. Works perfectly for me, I'd say 99.9% of the time.
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Don't do this. Scan each thumb twice, and it will work better. I usually do my right thumb 3x, my left thumb once, and my pointer finger once. Works perfectly for me, I'd say 99.9% of the time.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Sorry, I have a **** ton of phones laying around. Some let you scan 5 times, others 4.
robnitro said:
Animation sucks up cpu, which slows down fingerprint.
No animation is best, what do I need fancy effects to tell me what I'm already doing lol
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I HATE animations. They were cute maybe the first two times but after that I was done with them. And having to enable dev options is stupid. I use several apps that either complain about dev options being enabled or just plain won't run at all. No animations should be a normal selectable item like wallpaper.
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I HATE animations. They were cute maybe the first two times but after that I was done with them. And having to enable dev options is stupid. I use several apps that either complain about dev options being enabled or just plain won't run at all. No animations should be a normal selectable item like wallpaper.
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To be honest, I thought I was the only one who truly hated animations. These seem extremely unnecessary and a little bit tacky.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Same here, I actually thought it was impossible to register 5 fingerprints, considering that I’ve been only able to do 3 or 4 max.