I've had S10, two S20's and now S21. They all have one thing in common... The fingerprint sensor does not work. I would guess my fingerprint success rate at about 20% accuracy. My S21 fingerprint sensor fails the first time every time. No matter how many times I re-enter my fingerprints. I thought the new fingerprint sensor in the S21 would be better, it isn't.
By accident, reading Flipboard, somebody posted a story on how to speed up android phones. I did what the article recommended. My phone did indeed seem faster, but there was an additional benefit, my fingerprint sensor went from 20% accuracy to well over 90%. Works almost every single time now.
Make sure developer mode is enabled (go to settings > about phone > tap build number a few times).
Go back to settings, at the bottom will be developer options > drawing section.
Three entries;
Window Animation Scale
Transition Animation Scale
Animator Duration Scale
All settings are default 1x.
Change all three settings to either .5x or zero.
Enjoy!
Sorry, but this solution doesn't make any sense.
Fingerprint on my S21 works great. Since dy one
goTouch said:
Sorry, but this solution doesn't make any sense.
Fingerprint on my S21 works great. Since dy one
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Oh, I guess that means mine works great too. And, nobody else has ever had a problem with the Samsung fingerprint sensor. Got it.
I mean, the animation scale has nothing to do with the fingerprint sensor. So it's not that his works great and yours doesn't, but it's like saying you can fix your car's engine if you just eat 3 extra apples per day. Nothing to do with one another.
What exactly is the reasoning behind how this helps the fingerprint sensor? and what exactly is it doing? Are there any downsides to this?
Like I was saying, I changed the settings just out of curiosity because the originator of the article mentioned that the changes make your phone appear to run faster. Nothing was mentioned about the fingerprint sensor. But, after making the changes, I immediately noticed that my fingerprint sensor started working. It was very dramatic as my sensor would fail the first time every time, and maybe 50% of the time on the second attempt. It was not unusual for me to have 5 failures in a row, locking the sensor for 30 seconds, multiple times a week.
My sister has a N20 Ultra and her sensor was so bad she quit using it. I contacted her about changing those settings, which she did, and her sensor started working too. This isn't my first rodeo, I've had a history with Samsung and their under display sensors. Mine has never worked going back to the S10.
I can't explain why changing these settings affect the sensor, but they do. I just changed back to 1x and my fingerprint sensor started failing just like it always has. Changed back to .5x and it starts working again. Sometimes I get the sense my sensor is not actually attempting to read fingerprint, just fails repeatedly. My guess is because the screen draws animations faster, the fingerprint sensor animation is faster too. Maybe that has something to do with it? So, analogy of car engine and apples isn't applicable. There might actually be some connection here.
Bottom line, it takes 30 seconds to change settings so you can easily do it and revert back just as quick. There seems to be nothing to lose, so...
I've noticed a substantial decrease in battery life with the changes from 1x to .5x. I reverted back to 1x and redid my fingerprints, once focusing on the center of the sensor and then a 2nd entry for the same finger focusing on the edges of the sensor. I'm going to have to live with this until the next non-Samsung phone comes along that I want to try...
Animation sucks up cpu, which slows down fingerprint.
No animation is best, what do I need fancy effects to tell me what I'm already doing lol
This entire thread reads like an April Fools joke.
This is the first time I am using on screen fingerprint reader. Absolutely hated it. However, over the days I have developed muscle memory and my finger goes to the correct spot. My accuracy went from 40 to 90% in the last month or so.
There are few things that can be done to improve finger print reader
- Use both the thumbs in one fingerprint
- Scanning along the edges of the scanner location.
THere are you tube videos that explain this in detail.
Additinal tip. I have enabled lift to wake and faceunlock as well. This has helped me faster unlock pretty much every time i pick up the phone.
PS: To me on the screen reader is more of a gimmick, it will take a few more generations to get this working very well for everyone.
There is space near the camera on the back where samsung could have place the reader.
This will give you additonal finger gesture features. Like in note 9 you can pull down and push up the norification bar and so on. ANyways this is a lost cause.
Gopa
Techvir said:
There are few things that can be done to improve finger print reader
- Use both the thumbs in one fingerprint
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Don't do this. Scan each thumb twice, and it will work better. I usually do my right thumb 3x, my left thumb once, and my pointer finger once. Works perfectly for me, I'd say 99.9% of the time.
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Don't do this. Scan each thumb twice, and it will work better. I usually do my right thumb 3x, my left thumb once, and my pointer finger once. Works perfectly for me, I'd say 99.9% of the time.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Sorry, I have a **** ton of phones laying around. Some let you scan 5 times, others 4.
robnitro said:
Animation sucks up cpu, which slows down fingerprint.
No animation is best, what do I need fancy effects to tell me what I'm already doing lol
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I HATE animations. They were cute maybe the first two times but after that I was done with them. And having to enable dev options is stupid. I use several apps that either complain about dev options being enabled or just plain won't run at all. No animations should be a normal selectable item like wallpaper.
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I HATE animations. They were cute maybe the first two times but after that I was done with them. And having to enable dev options is stupid. I use several apps that either complain about dev options being enabled or just plain won't run at all. No animations should be a normal selectable item like wallpaper.
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To be honest, I thought I was the only one who truly hated animations. These seem extremely unnecessary and a little bit tacky.
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Oh wow, how did you manage to register 5 fingerprints? I can only register a maximum of 4.
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Same here, I actually thought it was impossible to register 5 fingerprints, considering that I’ve been only able to do 3 or 4 max.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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Excellent information; exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Yeah works good so far!
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I noticed most of the time when Knock On fails for me is because the phone isn't on a solid flat surface for example while I'm holding it in my hand or while it's on my bed.
This makes me think the accelermeter is used for this feature. So if you have too much "suspension", it won't trigger.
Just my thoughts!
Edit: I just tested with incredibly light touches and it still worked so perhaps it isn't accelerometer enabled. =S
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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yeah, i hear if you say "knock knock" out loud as you do it, it works EVERY time.
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Great tip
Exactly what i was looking for although still a bit slow compared with what i had with my Nexus 4 and the touch control app. But at least I just do Knock knock once.
That really does work everytime.
Nice tip. I have been playing around with suggestions that I have seen elsewhere but yours seems to be the most consistent (I've done it 25+ times now in a row with your technique). I've even tried changing the rate at which I do the knocks (fast versus slow) and have also tapped on different parts of the screen. It seems like the key is leaving your finger on the screen on the second knock.
Previously some things that I read to increase the success rate were (each with mixed results):
- Always tap on the top of the phone (where the notification bar would be)
- Always tap three times instead of two
- Tap once and then pause slightly and then tap twice
On a side note, does anyone know how this feature works exactly? Is it simply the digitizer detecting the taps on the screen or is there something else going on?
I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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Ya, after doing some more testing, it must be the touchscreen. The reason I thought it may have been something else is I have gotten it to work by tapping in the top right corner of the phone (presumably not on the screen) but that's probably b/c the bezel is so small. I haven't been able to get it to work along the bottom of the phone (over the LG logo).
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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This! Works 99.9% of the time for me
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Fraxon said:
Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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This as well!!!
I hate it bc that's how I was when the first iPhone came out...made me want to pinch to zoom my laptop screen. Now I find myself tapping the iphone or laptop to unlock but get mad when they don't lol
Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Probably does that so it won't come on by "knocking" in your pocket. Not a big deal for me at all. And the OP's method is working 100% of the time fur me. No need for 3 knocks any more.
I'd like to confirm what don't others have said and say that the most common mistake is tapping too fast.
Correct that the knock on only uses the sensor to avoid turning the screen on in your pocket.
However, if the touch screen constantly listens for these knocks while it is turned off, shouldn't that consume at least a considerable amount of battery?
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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this is an excellent tip, thanks! I went from knock knock knock knock, to knock knock and hold and its worked every time for me..
Exellent tip thanks!
Works 100% of the time now! :good::victory::laugh:
This tip however, does not apply to turn off the device. Two quick taps (and release) takes care of that always!
Cheers!
noob question
Noam23 said:
What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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sorry for this really really dumbass question but when u say "After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up"
i infer 1 knock (tap and lift finger) and then 2nd one is not actually a knock (tap and lift finger) but just tap and keep ur finger there itself
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is it 2 knocks and then (after second lift of finger) jst touch the screen again
good i really feel like dumbest dumb on this planet asking this question but please do reply
i dont yet have g2 but planning on buying it so i cant confirm myself what u meant
Hi all,
I've read in various forums people having poor recognition of their fingerprints on the Mate 20 pro in-screen scanner and I too was suffering the same issue. Oddly, I found that over time, my right thumb (the finger I used the most) was being recognised more consistently. This then led me to believe that the system improves recognition the more you use it. So....
If you head into the "fingerprint ID" area under the security and privacy menu, there's a feature named "identify fingerprint". If you select that and repeatedly try each finger, as it recognises the finger, it begins improving immediately. I did this with 4 fingers and after about a minute of "training", my success rate for all fingers went from sub 30% to greater than 90%.
Hope this helps.
Darren
Thanks, I will give it a try. At first I found the fingerprint reader horribly picky and slow, but even after a couple of days I have adjusted and can open it nearly every time with the right press. Unlike some readers this thing seems to want to see your whole thumb, so a flat press is necessary, and so is somewhat accurate location of that press. And... You have to hold it for just that right amount of time... I still sometimes get several failures in a row for no apparent reason, but overall I am happy with it.
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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I would have liked a regular finger print circle or a spot, but I don't need to turn on the screen for the finger print to unlock Note10.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Most of that you knew before buying. So why did you switch?
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After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
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My thoughts exactly.
No complaints about the power button placement.
Only wish fingerprint sensor is as fast/responsive as it is on Note9
The wifi strength of my note 10 is significantly worse. My previous note 9 had a good signal in my bedroom or my floor ,but note's 10 signal is very frustrating as it is missing in these places at all.
Otherwise problems are all the above. I'm right handed so the effort to turn off the screen is frustrating.
An no heart rate sensor anymore!!
For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
Ziken said:
Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
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Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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Kool.. I'll look into that.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Use double tap to wake, lift to wake, and fingerprint for turning on the screen
Install one handed operation+ , and you have a lot of options for turning off the screen, I use diagonal down long swipe for it. I rarely use the power button anymore, even on my note 9 i didn't use power button much.
fingerprint in front of device is way more useful. you just need to get used to it.
So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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You have MORE battery drain after disabling/sleeping apps? That makes no sense. Do you have before & after battery logs to prove that?
What is your average SOT and standby time?
Google Play Services are always active, but do not significantly drain battery. All Android phones will have Google Play Services running in the background. If you don't want Google Play Services, then you get a phone that can be bootloader unlocked and flash something like LineageOS, which has Google Play Services stripped from the ROM.
I came from a Note 9 and no issues at all with my Note 10+. On Friday I was at 6 hours 45min sot and was at 50% ony battery.
Is it work the upgrade over the note 9? Why it is love and the new stuff is great it dapens on the price. I got mine from Best buy $300 off and $200 monthly credit. So that price went from $1,100 to $600. Is a $600 upgrade over the note 9 worth it? Absolutely. $1100 upgrade? God no.
My note 9 was no longer under warranty. Prices are dropping so now was the time. Sold that note 9 for $350. So in total $250 to get into my note 10+ when all is said and done. But that price will go up since I'll lose some of that $200 credit when I go with a note 20+ ultra. But I'll wait till best buy outs them on sale this time next year and do the same.
No complaints here. I love the note 10+.
Just work with it. With the fingerprint sensor and always on display you don't really need to use the power button other than to turn the screen off. The fingerprint sensor placement feels much more natural to me now and can turn on the screen.
the worse thing for me is no LED notification light. That apps trying to replicate this work sometimes...not others. And only for short periods due to screen burn. BRING BACK LED LIGHTS
My fingerprint NEVER works on the first try. Sometime the 2nd and 3rd as well. I've registered both my pointer fingers TWICE each. I have had numerous Android devices including the G7 Power and never had this issue before. Anyone else having the same problem?
I've had the g7 optimo and now the g power 2020. Both have the fastest responding fingerprint sensors I've used. Sounds like you might have a hardware issue.
Yep!! Came from a G7, worked every single time. Now with the G it's hit and miss but only when opening the phone, haven't noticed it having issues with other apps.
What I've found to work out great, I use either pointer finger to unlock, more the right than left. So what I do is scan the right finger 3 times, and the left 2. That way each reading gets a different part of the finger and has a better chance at reading it. Hope that helps
Btw, I've done it on all my devices that have a fingerprint and it's always worked
It's my slowest smartphone talking about of fingerprint, and yes, you need to register your fingerprint very, but very accurately if you want a better unlock response. I needed to delete my fingerprints twice and then I did it again but without back protector and cleaning throughly my fingers, now the unlock accuracy it's better and don't need to try two or three times, but the time till the phone it's completely unlocked it's toooo long.
I would say to set up the fingerprints again. And pay close attention to scanning your entire fingertip slowly.
I have issues if my fingers get a little wet, like from condensation from a glass, or sweaty.
Had the Zenfone 9 for a little while and thought I'd share some thoughts. Been using the device for as my main machine for basic work (email, document writing, ssh/remote management, video calling) and personal applications (social media, reading, watching videos, not gaming). Here's been my experience.
Size/Screen
despite people focusing on how compact the phone is it doesn't feel that small in a good way (especially compared to the iPhone mini). Screen size does not interfere with any applications I've used the phone for, even reading which I had some worries about before purchase. The biggest downside of the compact size I ran into was the typing experience, but that becomes much better with a keyboard that has good gesture support and some aggressive autocorrect. Overall it feels great in the hand as someone with large hands.
Visually the screen is sharp, has great viewing angles, and the brightness is good even for outdoor use in direct sunlight. I can't say much for the refresh rate since I keep it on 60 but I will say the DC dimming works a charm even if it's only available on 60 Hz mode. Touch is responsive and i haven't experienced any touch jitters, but the palm rejection is bad enough that I'd call the phone unusable without a case if you tend to hold the phone like I do.
Gesture Controll
As a long-time Oneplus user I do miss the 3 way switch for the ringer, but have found a compromise using the press and hold on the power button as a toggle between modes which has been working well for me. The other smart key functionality of swiping on the power button I've turned off as it's way too easy to accidentally activate when held in the right hand.
The screen off gestures for media control which I enjoyed on Oneplus are here in the Asus but are currently broken, the "ll" pause gesture instead reading out the time and not pausing the video for some reason, when that's fixed at least they are all very responsive.
The back double tap gesture is very inconsistent, I keep it on for the flashlight and haven't had any issues with false activations, but it often takes a few tries to activate.
Battery/Charging
Battery life has been good, getting through a day of heavy use without a problem on 60Hz mode. Charging is fast but does heat up the phone, I've kept mine on ultra steady charge mode which slows down charging to dispel heat and battery longevity issues (around 10W, normal steady charge is around 13W). The charger that came with the device is a C to C charger with a cable that works for data and power.
Performance
I'm not a mobile gamer so I've yet to push the processor in any meaningful way, badly optimized apps that I have had issues with in the past all work smoothly. Video playback/acceleration have been smooth as well as processing large file transfers. Boot up and restart times are very snappy.
Networking/Connectivity
No issues with my Canadian SIM, dual sim works fine. WiFi hasn't had problems with my WiFi 5 and 6 Routers even in dual channel mode which works seamlessly on dual channel networks connecting in both bands. 5G isn't widespread in my area so i haven't had a chance to test it, but 4G+ works as expected. On the physical ports side I have only been able to get USB 2 speeds out of the USB C port for file transfers which isn't really an issue for my use and the headphone jack packs a punch running my DT-770 80 ohms without a problem.
Cameras
They're definitely cameras, I'm not really a camera guy so I wouldn't know what to look for. I haven't had any noticable issues, photos do take a bit longer than my previous phones from pressing the button to the photo being taken but I assume that's because there's a lot more photo processing going on with newer phones. The back lenses do need to be wiped off most of the time since at least for me my fingers tend to naturally rest on them. Front camera also hasn't given me any issues but I'm not a huge fan of the metal ring inside which makes the hole punch more noticeable.
ZenUI
Played around with the launcher a bit before switching off of it, seems like a good relatively stock Android experience with some quality of life improvements. Hasn't given me a reason to switch away from Niagra launcher though (which works great on this device). The pull down menu looks good but could use a bit more in the way of customizability, notifications are a bit intrusive on the smaller screen but the smaller notifications option fixes that pretty well in exchange for needing to pull down the notification shade for quick access. Some other small gripes are that the bar underneath the keyboard is unable to be turned off is quite large relative to the screen height and in the activities view the app icons are above the apps which makes things like locking apps a bit difficult one handed.
Overall
This phone is definitely a purchase I don't regret, all the issues I've had thus far are definitely fixable through updates. I haven't had any of the hardware issues I've heard others mention like rattly volume buttons. Hopefully it does well enough for Asus to consider giving it longer support and the attention it needs to get its minor current issues fixed, or at least well enough to get decent support for third party roms. The price even importing the device from HK to Canada is very competitive for what you get. If there as any benchmarks people want me to run or questions they have about the device I'll keep an eye on the responses. Also if anyone has fixes for the issues mentioned I'm all ears (palm rejection, media control, etc...)
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
Purchased from mi4canada, came quick via DHL from HK and at a good price by Canadian import standards. It's unclear when the device will officially make its way to Canada, the zenfone 8 took a long while.
efkosk said:
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
efkosk said:
So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
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Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
Nexr0n said:
Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
Nexr0n said:
Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Thank you very much for your effort and time!
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Just wanted to add from my experience. I've been using nova launcher prime since I got the phone (over a week ago). And I have noticed that rarley but sometimes when you press the home button or unlock the screen you will get a blank screen showing only the wallpaper and only after you press the home button for a second time will the home screen actually load.
FYI I am using the navigation bar (buttons) and not the gesture one (I just hate the incompatibility with a lot of swipe supported apps e.g. Gmail, Solid Explorer etc ) so take it with a grain of salt if you use gesture you might not encounter this problem.
I have also encountered some other minor bugs but overall I am very pleased with the phone coming from my Galaxy S10.
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
HomerSp said:
Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Haven't experienced this issue with Niagra after over a week of use now (or on previous phones I've put it on), may be an issue with your launcher. A second delay would be very noticable.
Cheers for the review - very helpful as am considering getting one.
Looking around at the benchmarks from different reviews, the scores vary quite a bit. It looks like it depends on which performance mode it's in - high performance mode vs dynamic mode, and according to Anandtech the Zenfone 8's performance would also change depending on which refresh rate you had it in. But many reviewers haven't said what mode or refresh rate they've been using.
Could you perhaps run the Jetstream 2.0 benchmark (opens and runs in the website) and/or PCMark Work 3.0 (play store) in dynamic performance mode? In 120hz would be fantastic or in 60hz would still be good either.
It's a bit of pain and would take your time so perfectly understandable if you don't want to, so would like to say thanks for the review anyway!
@Plasmac
All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
Dew,
Nexr0n said:
@Plasmac
All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
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Thank you very much for doing all those. It's really appreciated.
The non-performance mode isn't reducing the performance by much at all. That settles it for me then, the Anandtech review of the 8 put me off, but it seems tsmc 4nm has allowed good performance and decent battery life, so the 9 it is.
efkosk said:
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
RestlessScreams said:
The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
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There’s a lot to like about the way the Zenfone 9 looks. The obvious starting place is the size – thanks to using a small 5.9in display this is a small phone by modern standards, and at 169g it’s also impressively lightweight.
At 9.1mm thick it’s not the thinnest phone around, but you’d certainly not call it chunky, and that very slight extra thickness feels irrelevant once you factor in how compact the phone is overall.
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efkosk said:
Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sadly didn't work either. But from what I've read it's Google's fault and may have been fixed with A13, so maybe there's hope for the Z9 too