[Q] Uninstalling a ROM for another - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've recently flash Aura ROM, and it was successful. Now I want to try the Neutrino build. Do I have to flash back to my Stock Gingerbread 4.5.91.img and then flash Neutrino?
Or do I simply go ahead and flash Neutrino with these steps.
-boot to recovery
-wipe dalvik&wipe cache
-factor reset/data
-flash ROM in recovery
-wipe dalvik&wipe cache again
-reboot
Sadly I did not do a backup on CWM(Using Rom Racer's).

You don't uninstall a rom. You wipe and flash another.
Each rom's thread will give the wiping instructions that work best; I've only stuck with blur roms and have had luck with -- AFTER backing up -- booting into fastboot and issuing "fastboot -w", then reboot to recovery, wipe data, cache, & dalvik, and then flashing the rom.
Others recommend first wiping everything separately using fastboot (and someone will likely chime in here). If you want Neutrino, head over there and see what wipe procedures users have found the most success with.

sheeparecurious said:
You don't uninstall a rom. You wipe and flash another.
Each rom's thread will give the wiping instructions that work best; I've only stuck with blur roms and have had luck with -- AFTER backing up -- booting into fastboot and issuing "fastboot -w", then reboot to recovery, wipe data, cache, & dalvik, and then flashing the rom.
Others recommend first wiping everything separately using fastboot (and someone will likely chime in here). If you want Neutrino, head over there and see what wipe procedures users have found the most success with.
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After all this time! I've always thought you'd have to go back to your stock ROM. Thanks a bunch sheeparecurious! Neurtion seems to want you to wipe everything.

Do I need to wipe dalvik and cache everytime I flash a simple mod or add on?

Depends on the rom. Does the OP in the Neutrino thread say anything specific?
I've been able to flash mods without clearing any caches. I've seen two themes "not play nicely" when flashing one after another, and others were fine to go from theme to theme.

"Wiping data may not be necessary with every update, but it's best to flash clean. However, if you regularly flash the updates, you'll most likely need to wipe data at some stage anyway."
It says to wipe when you flash updates. Does he mean updates to Neutrion updates?
Here's thread link. If you'd like to look for yourself. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398819
Thanks in advanced. I'm headed to bed now. Very pleased as to how things went today on my phone.

Yeah, he probably means "updates to neutrino." I'd say if you successfully flashed the rom and any additional mods you wanted, and the phone is working well, make a nandroid backup so you have a good restore point.
Whenever it comes around, try the next update without wiping - either it'll work fine & life is great, or something will be screwy & you'll need to wipe clean and flash from a fresh state anyway (or restore your backup state).
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sheeparecurious said:
booting into fastboot and issuing "fastboot -w", then reboot to recovery, wipe data, cache, & dalvik, and then flashing the rom.
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fastboot -w does the same as wiping data and cache in recovery.
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For the best results, when you want to flash a new ROM you should always perform a full wipe in fastboot per the following to make sure you will avoid any unforeseen complications:
reboot to recovery
wipe Dalvik
reboot to fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot (to recovery)
flash ROM
reboot
If you are updating an exisiting ROM, then you would normally just reboot to recovery, wipe Dalvik and cache, then flash the update unless the dev has instructed otherwise in the ROM's thread.
You should ALWAYS do a nandroid backup of your current ROM through recovery prior to wiping and flashing anything. Much easier to restore to a previous state than have to set-up completely from scratch again if something goes wrong.

See? Told ya someone would chime in.
and I knew "fastboot -w" did the same data/cache wipe as in CWM, something something placebo effect can never be too sure. Wouldn't feel right if I didn't do it anyway.
Now, I never erased the webtop when I started flashing roms -- I only did the 2.3.6 webtop fruitcake because it was an update compared to my original one. Granted, I stuck with blur roms but it didn't seem to cause any issues. I assume if I were to switch to a CM-based rom, it could cause glitches if I don't erase the webtop partition?

You guys are awesome thanks! I copied down the procedure you recommended CaelanT. This will help me a ton.
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Thanks for that CaelanT thats also useful to know, I have only just entered the world of different roms.

I always do a CWM backup and then a factory reset, wipe the dalvik cache and then flash the new ROM and any add-ons or kernels. Don't forget to wipe your battery stats/calibrate your battery. (I turn off my phone, charge it to 100%, wait about 15 minutes to be sure and boot into recovery to wipe the battery stats)
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Please help me.

I did a factory reset on 2.3.4 official after installing alien rom and theme, and now I cannot go into settings. The icon doesn't exist in the app tray. Now I can't connect to the internet or enable debug. Also it says that I have no service. And when I try to go in android recovery and tap on the bottom right corner nothing happens. Could someone tell me what I can do please? Thank you.
sounds like a bad install... did you do a full wipe beforehand?
do a full wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, then reinstall.
note full wipe is not just a factory reset from the OS you need to wipe from tenfar's clockwork recovery, or connect via USB and run moto-fastboot -w
I didn't because in the install instructions for the rom it didn't say I had to, and I didn't know I was supposed to. (i'm a noob).
While on a homescreen, hit the menu button, and then "settings" to get in if the icon is missing.
DK
I did that then the launcher force closes and restarts
well now you know
before installing any ROM you need to (to ensure a clean start)
go into clock recovery, wipe (alternatively, connect via USB, make sure you have correct drivers I presume so if you've been flashing and unlocking BL, go to moto-fastboot directory, start command line, and do moto-fastboot.exe -w)
then in clockwork recovery, wipe cache
then in clockwork recovery, advanced - wipe dalvik cache\
THEN flash away
obviously this wipes everything so backup your info/apps beforehand
I'll remember that for the next time I install a rom, even though when I had 4.1.83 and installed greyblur I never wiped anything, it wiped everything when I installed the rom. Now I need to know what are my options... Could I flash 4.5.91, or will it brick my phone? or is there another way to fix this?
I flashed sbf 4.5.91 and it worked. Thanks for the advice.

[Q] Fastest way to wipe Atrix as CLEAN as possible before ROM flash?

Long story short:
I'm a purist of the 'clean flash'...making sure my phone has NO leftover data from my last flash cycle.
Thing is, I've been wondering what the fastest and easiest way to get the cleanest flash is.
I've usually ended up flashing the pudding preroot SBF then clearing user data-y things through the recovery afterwards.
Is there a fastboot command that will completely wipe my phones data? And SBF?
Thanks for the input.
+1 i am wondering the same thing, i cant make my mind up with roms and have a new one on every hour haha
Fastboot -w
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marko! said:
Fastboot -w
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I've tried that.
When I...first time after booting up...checked the file manager...I still found remnant folders from dropbox and swiftkey keyboard.
Thoughts?
boot to recovery
Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
factory reset/data
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
CaelanT said:
boot to recovery
Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
factory reset/data
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
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xyrovice said:
I've tried that.
When I...first time after booting up...checked the file manager...I still found remnant folders from dropbox and swiftkey keyboard.
Thoughts?
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Do what CaelanT said, for sure. That's the most full wipe you can do.
But those "leftover" files you're talking about are a product of not formatting your SD card(s) however. After you wipe and everything and boot into recovery, go to Mounts and Storage (I think...) and format your SD cards. Make SURE you have backed up all of this data, first.
CaelanT said:
boot to recovery
Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
factory reset/data
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
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Thanks. Quote for later use as well.
Can this be done to do a clean install of the stock rom?? as if its a yes, is it the same process??
The process listed above, which if you do a search anywhere you'll come up with multiple times on this site, should be done to every new ROM you flash.
Fastboot -w only wipes /system and /cache. When you flash a new ROM, make sure to backup your internal storage to external SD card if there's anything you wanna keep and then wipe it using the command in the android operating system in Settings--storage--internal SD card. Just format it from within android, there's less of a chance of erasing the wrong one. For example, in Rom Racer's recovery, if you go to mounts and storage and Format SDcard, which you would think would format the internal sd card since there is a seperate SD-ext format, it doesn't. It will format your EXTERNAL sd card instead. To wipe internal you would have to wipe the EMMC, that's just how he has it set up. Which is why I say just use the format that is within android.
Just be sure you don't wipe you ROM .zip off the SD card if you use cwm to flash... nothing like erasing everything then having to sbf flash because the zip is gone... oh and cm7 doesn't erase SD cards properly, so don't use it, otherwise you can't format the SD card.
I piss excellence
CaelanT said:
boot to recovery
Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
factory reset/data
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
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Really quickly:
So after fastboot reboot I would then be back to the stock moto ROM or...?
Saying I'm back on the stock moto ROM (basically pudding?), I take it the BL is still unlocked, but I don't have root, right?
All I do is root, install recovery (I always DL rom manager then flash romracer's rec.) then flash ROM correct?
xyrovice said:
Really quickly:
So after fastboot reboot I would then be back to the stock moto ROM or...?
Saying I'm back on the stock moto ROM (basically pudding?), I take it the BL is still unlocked, but I don't have root, right?
All I do is root, install recovery (I always DL rom manager then flash romracer's rec.) then flash ROM correct?
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This deletes everything, you won't be able to use your phone until you flash a new ROM with cwm recovery.
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Alcapone263 said:
This deletes everything, you won't be able to use your phone until you flash a new ROM with cwm recovery.
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Okay, so it WON'T delete my current recovery (being romracer's)? Or do I have to somehow install CWM recovery?
And then, at that point, it's just a matter of having the rom.zip on my external/removable SD card and flashing it?
Do I have to worry about root if, for example, I wanted to flash Nottach's Darkside 2.0? Is it prerooted? Do I just 1-click root once I boot into it?
Thanks everybody for the info and patience.
I posted in the noob but didn't get replies so I'll try here since it is related to the question I have
Whenever I flash a blur-based rom -custom or stock (not cm7), it still has some reminiscence of previous setting - most obvious is the main screen.
For example, a quick note widget with content and a whatsapp app shortcut show up on the Home screen even though they should be wiped from system/cache/davik wipe before flashing a rom
My procedure:
Wipe Dalvik Cache (under advanced in CWM)
Wipe Cache Partition
Wipe data/factory reset
fastboot -w
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase user data
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
Install ZIP
Is it normal that some of the previous settings are retained?
is probably not but yea any advice would be useful.
I have a feeling my screen issue is related to this.
beely said:
I posted in the noob but didn't get replies so I'll try here since it is related to the question I have
Whenever I flash a blur-based rom -custom or stock (not cm7), it still has some reminiscence of previous setting - most obvious is the main screen.
For example, a quick note widget with content and a whatsapp app shortcut show up on the Home screen even though they should be wiped from system/cache/davik wipe before flashing a rom
My procedure:
Wipe Dalvik Cache (under advanced in CWM)
Wipe Cache Partition
Wipe data/factory reset
fastboot -w
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase user data
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
Install ZIP
Is it normal that some of the previous settings are retained?
is probably not but yea any advice would be useful.
I have a feeling my screen issue is related to this.
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Well, that is probably because you setup your blur account everytime.
Right?
The blur setup restores the icons on the home screens, whichever are installed at the time of the setup.
So probably that's the case with the icons etc coming back.
So what do you recommend as the best way way to wipe clean the internal sd before flashing.? Do it from the pc? or from CWM? or some other way?
Actually I am on cm7 and about to restore my cwm backup of Froyo on Telstra Atrix so that I can OTA Gingerbread. So obviously I want it as clean as possible.
Is this correct way?
Any help would be appreciated
Please Help - Can't get to recovery
Not sure what I have done wrong - I have read everything I can on this and still seem to have wrecked it.
I have done all the fastboot erases as per previous posts in this thread and formatted internal sd card. I have clockworkmod backup on external sd card.
Vol up + power gives me RSD protocol support
Vol down + power gives me fastboot.
Have I done something wrong? How do I boot to cwm recovery?
Edit: Ahhhh search was my friend. I found the answer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228633
It is funny that I have never seen a reference to "vol down" after getting to fastboot. Went into a complete panic.
Ok I have managed to restore Telstra 2.2 Froyo and am now doing ota gingerbread update for a look at that. Bit of a worry as it now tells me my 32gig sd card is faulty or damaged.
Thanks
CaelanT said:
boot to recovery
Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
factory reset/data
boot into fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot
flash ROM in recovery
wipe Dalvik
wipe cache
reboot
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Hello, I recently unlocked the boot of my mb860, and I installed a MROM gingerbread, I have some problems with wifi and I was advised to do a hard reset (the first installation I did a cleaning Wipe Dalvik
wipe cache and factory reset / data.
But I have problems wifi etc.
I would like to follow your procedure
Once you have completed cleaning everything what are the flash to be done in sequence
ps elsewhere (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314607) I found:
- Erase / boot
- Erase / radio
- Erase / system
- Erase / userdata
- Erase / cache
- Erase / webtop
- Erase / preinstall
- Erase / sdcard
- Flash pds image from Atrix devkit
- Flash Romracer's Recovery (6 color options)
But I see him quite dangerous! is that right?

Phone Will Not Boot Past Motorola Logo

I recently rooted my phone using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
I tried flashing MIUI and ICS after doing full wipes, but when rebooting the phone, it won't go mast the Motorola logo where it says "Unlocked." Is there a way to fix this?
wipe data/factory reset, cache, and dalvik in recovery
ovitz said:
wipe data/factory reset, cache, and dalvik in recovery
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I always do that before I flash a rom. I've done it at least 5-6 times now as I try to reflash the roms.
Sorry, early morning brain fart!
What do you consider a full wipe?
How long are you leaving your phone rebooting after flashing the ROM on the initial first reboot?
You could try flashing a kernel after flashing the ROM. You shouldn't have to, but I would try flashing the appropriate kernel from Faux.
Try wiping cache and dalvic cache. After do a factory reset. Then flash the ROM twice! As in back to back without doing anything else.
Personally I would flash another Rom, Some like Nottach or Cm7.2 and see if it boots, if so then recharge the battery and then try fresh again doing the wipes like others have said.
I had issues before where my recovery wouldnt boot but reflash did and was able to redo things and all is well.
For MIUI you need a separate kernel I tried flashing before and was stuck too, then flashed a kernel and it worked (jokers v3 kernels work well)
I have just tried installing CM7 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574
I made sure to do a wipe all data, cache, and dalvik cache. Then rebooted and waited for it go past the logo for 10-15 minutes (which it didn't).
This is the same process I go through for each rom, but it still doesn't work.

NEED Sense 3.6 ROM help? HERE!!!

I posted this. This is a fix for Sense 3.6 ROMS for boot loops OR if you want to flash the ROM without custom Firmware messing stuff up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26386620#post26386620
Or ask your question in this thread and I will try to answer it!
I flashed my phone to mean Rom ics 1.2 and I keep experiencing reboot like every couple of hours or so. First time I flashed, I did a dirty flash. Then I did a superwipe and started over from scratch and the same thing is happening. What can I do?
Hmmm....
Well, what recovery are you using. IF you are using 4-EXT recovery, I can help. If not, I still am going to say what I'd do.
I SUGGEST FLASHING 4-EXT, JUST SAYING.
1. Wipe Boot, System, and Data partitions individually. (In 4-EXT its under wipe and press each individual button (Wipe Data button, Wipe Boot button etc...).)
2. Wipe dalvik cache.
3. Flash your rom. DO NOT REBOOT
4. Flash kernel (AnthraX zip file)
5. Reboot and it should work.
I am using 4-EXT recovery, and HBOOT 1.50 S-ON.

[Q] Upgrading on reboot converted M8

Ok so I have a HTC One M8 from At&T unlocked. I had a friend(I bought it from him as a GPE) convert my phone to the GPE. Now it has been great, but now for some reason on every reboot it has to "optimize" about 40 apps(Only on ART). So to avoid using the RUU again we have tried to just uninstall some apps and take away root permissions to see if that would fix the issue, but it didn't. So then we tried to flash the GPE ROM, but first we had to flash TWPR because stock did not support flashing ROMs. I was able to flash the img successfully, but it will not boot into the recovery mode. What can I do at this point?
TL;DR - I now have a phone that takes about 5 minutes to boot and has no recovery.
axiosjackson said:
Ok so I have a HTC One M8 from At&T unlocked. I had a friend(I bought it from him as a GPE) convert my phone to the GPE. Now it has been great, but now for some reason on every reboot it has to "optimize" about 40 apps(Only on ART). So to avoid using the RUU again we have tried to just uninstall some apps and take away root permissions to see if that would fix the issue, but it didn't. So then we tried to flash the GPE ROM, but first we had to flash TWPR because stock did not support flashing ROMs. I was able to flash the img successfully, but it will not boot into the recovery mode. What can I do at this point?
TL;DR - I now have a phone that takes about 5 minutes to boot and has no recovery.
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To be clear, you can get into bootloader, but if you pick recovery, it just reboots? Or adb reboot just reboots phone?
Try to fastboot erase cache, and use fastboot to flash TWRP again. It looks like you just have a faulty TWRP install (and wiping cache often fixes this). Make sure its the latest TWRP. If it still doesn't work, try Philz recovery.
ART cache rebuilding itself (partially?) is an odd issue. I've seen someone mention it before, but can't say I know what this one is. This will usually only occur on first boot after flashing a ROM, switching between Dalvik/ART, or wiping Dalvik. Not certain how wiping Dalvik cache relates to ART (does it wipe a corresponding ART cache?). But you might try to wipe Dalvik and see if this helps.
Sorry
redpoint73 said:
To be clear, you can get into bootloader, but if you pick recovery, it just reboots? Or adb reboot just reboots phone?
Try to fastboot erase cache, and use fastboot to flash TWRP again. It looks like you just have a faulty TWRP install (and wiping cache often fixes this). Make sure its the latest TWRP. If it still doesn't work, try Philz recovery.
ART cache rebuilding itself (partially?) is an odd issue. I've seen someone mention it before, but can't say I know what this one is. This will usually only occur on first boot after flashing a ROM, switching between Dalvik/ART, or wiping Dalvik. Not certain how wiping Dalvik cache relates to ART (does it wipe a corresponding ART cache?). But you might try to wipe Dalvik and see if this helps.
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Kinda forgot about this thread. I was able to just use the RUU again and it fixed it. Thanks though.

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