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Will ICS change everything on 3VO's, Like sense and 3D effects?
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HTC will likely build Sense on top of ICS. We may have 3D on an unofficial build, likely CM9, but definitely will once HTC releases an official ICS update.
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Sense will cover it. I want to get a ROM like CM9 (whatever number) because I want the vanilla Android experience. I love sense, but when CM9 comes out in the next 2-4 months I'll be happy to flash it.
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In 2-4 months? I thought it would've been ready by January. CM9 is correct since CM8 was going to be honeycomb but honeycomb is very close sourced according to the cyanogen team. I really want the swipe notification add on because that is genius. I would do CM7 alpha but it doesn't have 4g which is everywhere in Miami.
I've never used cm, I have no 4G in my area so that don't matter, but i would love to see 3D in cm. I hope cm9 has 3D abilities. But either way I'm exited for it and will be flashing it for something new. I'm saving my cm virginity for cm9
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I've never used cm, I have no 4G in my area so that don't matter, but i would love to see 3D in cm. I hope cm9 has 3D abilities. But either way I'm exited for it and will be flashing it for something new. I'm saving my cm virginity for cm9
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Cm9 will have it. Its going to have a lot of GB implements but its going to be based off the ICS sdk
Hey guys. I know the HTC EVO 3D has been on the official update list by HTC for Android 4.0. Although they haven't clarified (to my knowledge) whether it will be upgraded to Sense 3.6 or Sense 4.0
Now initially I would have thought it would for sure be Sense 4.0 because we can easily run it, and it would make no sense not to. Then I saw someone post a comment saying saying that a lot of sense 4.0's features rely in the camera and our sensors don't support that. (Sorry I don't remember who posted this)
I thought what they said though was a valid point nonetheless. Anyway I want to know what all of you think about the update and what version you believe it will get (and why) This way we can all discuss and share ideas/information.
EDIT: its confirmed were getting 3.6
3.6 Here, but hope for either. LOL
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
HTC PR Jeff Gordon said they were giving current devices the Sense 3.6 with Android 4.0 the other day when he was talking. sorry dont have a link.
but beside the point there is no way possible that HTC is going to release Sense 4.0 to anything already out. I was the one you were referring to probably in regards to the sensors and camera.
I watched 99% of their MWC event and it was 90% about the Sense 4.0 camera improvements they have made and how "ImageSense" has a dedicated Image Chip now and that coupled with the f/2.0 lens has allowed them to make all these HUGE strides in their camera area.
So without that image chip hardware and the f/2.0 lens theres no way getting Sense 4.0 on our devices. Least if you did get it on here then you would not have all the features and abilities they claimed to have like the quickness of taking pictures and clarity and such....
kinda sucks but it doesn't b/c now we know they addressed one of the issues some people used to b##ch the most about in regards to the hardware...
Here is the article btw. it was actually talking about the next nexus phone and he threw in "...HTC’s current priority is to deliver Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) and HTC Sense 3.6 to its current devices..."
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
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Hey guys. I know the HTC EVO 3D has been on the official update list by HTC for Android 4.0. Although they haven't clarified (to my knowledge) whether it will be upgraded to Sense 3.6 or Sense 4.0
Now initially I would have thought it would for sure be Sense 4.0 because we can easily run it, and it would make no sense not to. Then I saw someone post a comment saying saying that a lot of sense 4.0's features rely in the camera and our sensors don't support that. (Sorry I don't remember who posted this)
I thought what they said though was a valid point nonetheless. Anyway I want to know what all of you think about the update and what version you believe it will get (and why) This way we can all discuss and share ideas/information.
If for some reason this thread doesn't belong here or there is a similar thread already I apologize and will have it removed
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its documented that all current devices are getting 3.6 the only phones getting 4.0 are the ones yet to be released.
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HTC PR Jeff Gordon said they were giving current devices the Sense 3.6 with Android 4.0 the other day when he was talking. sorry dont have a link.
but beside the point there is no way possible that HTC is going to release Sense 4.0 to anything already out. I was the one you were referring to probably in regards to the sensors and camera.
I watched 99% of their MWC event and it was 90% about the Sense 4.0 camera improvements they have made and how "ImageSense" has a dedicated Image Chip now and that coupled with the f/2.0 lens has allowed them to make all these HUGE strides in their camera area.
So without that image chip hardware and the f/2.0 lens theres no way getting Sense 4.0 on our devices. Least if you did get it on here then you would not have all the features and abilities they claimed to have like the quickness of taking pictures and clarity and such....
kinda sucks but it doesn't b/c now we know they addressed one of the issues some people used to b##ch the most about in regards to the hardware...
Here is the article btw. it was actually talking about the next nexus phone and he threw in "...HTC’s current priority is to deliver Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) and HTC Sense 3.6 to its current devices..."
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
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Alright that makes sense. It is a little disheartening. You would think they would update it to 4.0 without the extra camera features. Especially when the single core'd One V is getting 4.0. I know we will always get ports eventually, but those won't have 3D capability no matter what.
Thanks for sharing though. I am still going to hope for Sense 4.0 anyway (even though it's just wishful thinking) lol.
These atlre our specs for the evo 3d if we don't get sense 4.0 that's lame.
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These atlre our specs for the evo 3d if we don't get sense 4.0 that's lame.
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take it you just didn't read anything that I wrote above then....smh
My little rant aha
the One V specs?
1GHZ Single Core CPU
512MB of RAM
3.7 in 480x800
3G (no listed 4G compatibility)
And it ships with 4.0 out of the box.
The 3D
1.2 GHZ Dual-Core MSM8260 Proccesor
1GB of Ram
4.3 qHD display
4G and 3G
and will probably get sense 3.6? Kindof messed up. I mean I understand the whole camera aspect of it...but thats not ALL sense 4.0 is about. I mean yes it is a great big portion of it, but not everything.
My reasoning: The One S has a qhd display (same resolution and screen size of our 3d) so that can't be an issue, CPU, GPU, and RAM isn't really an issue.
The One X has a lower quality camera than the other 2 in the One line (although probably still far superior to our phones)
The only problems HTC should have a real tough problem with is 3D support and fixing the camera for our sensors.. which as a huge national company they should have the resources to do that for us the customer.
That being said I understand what sgt.slaughter is saying...I just like to rant
Maybe im making a bigger deal than it is, but its just a little upsetting. I feel like a samsung owner. That one might hurt a couple of you
i hope 4.0
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My little rant aha
the One V specs?
1GHZ Single Core CPU
512MB of RAM
3.7 in 480x800
3G (no listed 4G compatibility)
And it ships with 4.0 out of the box.
The 3D
1.2 GHZ Dual-Core MSM8260 Proccesor
1GB of Ram
4.3 qHD display
4G and 3G
and will probably get sense 3.6? Kindof messed up. I mean I understand the whole camera aspect of it...but thats not ALL sense 4.0 is about. I mean yes it is a great big portion of it, but not everything.
My reasoning: The One S has a qhd display (same resolution and screen size of our 3d) so that can't be an issue, CPU, GPU, and RAM isn't really an issue.
The One X has a lower quality camera than the other 2 in the One line (although probably still far superior to our phones)
The only problems HTC should have a real tough problem with is 3D support and fixing the camera for our sensors.. which as a huge national company they should have the resources to do that for us the customer.
That being said I understand what sgt.slaughter is saying...I just like to rant
Maybe im making a bigger deal than it is, but its just a little upsetting. I feel like a samsung owner. That one might hurt a couple of you
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visually 3.6 and 4.0 are not far off at all from what ive seen. The camera stuff was the headline feature of Sense 4.0 and they made it apparent in the event. besides that all thats left that sense 3.6 doesn't have is the beats integration and the dropbox stuff really...the camera is a big enough chunk to not get it when you take a step back and look at it all.
HTC confirmed that all the devices that are going to get ICS will be sense 3.5. Check their Facebook page all the information is there.
I'm just saying theres no reason for us not to get 4.0,HTC said them self they even slim down 4.0 for better performance. I remember when I had the evo 4g and it got gingerbread there was no new improvements on sense besides running gingerbread.
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majid25 said:
HTC confirmed that all the devices that are going to get ICS will be sense 3.5. Check their Facebook page all the information is there.
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please read. already linked in this thread they stated all will be Sense 3.6.
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aseercte said:
I'm just saying theres no reason for us not to get 4.0,HTC said them self they even slim down 4.0 for better performance. I remember when I had the evo 4g and it got gingerbread there was no new improvements on sense besides running gingerbread.
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not reading as well....read the actual things that require to get Sense4.0 features they touted and youll see no current phone has the f/2.0 lens nor do they have the dedicated image chip both of which are vital to using Sense4.0 features they touted.
at this point those wanting 4.0 you can just edit the files to say you have 4.0 and you wont know any difference. Only thing possible your missing is dropbox, wifi sync manager, and full integrated beats...
There is a pretty big difference between 3.6 and 4.0. Lockscreen differences, keyboard, system apps like music, animations, and so on. It's more refined. 3.6 is basically 3.5 with ICS.
We will see fully working ports eventually though. Just as we did with the OG EVO and Sense 3.0/3.5.
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I could have sworn they said that the Sensation elevate program users were going to get a Sense 4.0 beta, so I would then assume that the Sensation would get Sense 4.0, and therefore, so would we. I certainly hope so! Then again, the original Evo 4G has sense 3.0 ROMs, so i'm sure the wonderful developer community could get a 4.0 one working perfectly on our phones, in fact, there's already one in development!
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I could have sworn they said that the Sensation elevate program users were going to get a Sense 4.0 beta, so I would then assume that the Sensation would get Sense 4.0, and therefore, so would we. I certainly hope so! Then again, the original Evo 4G has sense 3.0 ROMs, so i'm sure the wonderful developer community could get a 4.0 one working perfectly on our phones, in fact, there's already one in development!
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Well unfortunately not. HTC just said 4.0 ICS not Sense UI. As stated here
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-ann...iews-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-20120215/
3.6 god willing sense 4 is ugly
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I want sense 1.5
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another problem is that it seems like they have to many phones on the market to worry about already
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3.6 god willing sense 4 is ugly
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haven't flashed either here on my phone so just going off photos here. only real diff looks like the rosie in 3.6 extends to the edges of the screen where it stops short on 4.0 right?
are all the sense 4.0 roms still based off the ville still? i figured with the evo lte out this long we would be getting some real roms that aren't ported over. maybe i am ignorant and don't know what i am talking about but just wandering
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are all the sense 4.0 roms still based off the ville still? i figured with the evo lte out this long we would be getting some real roms that aren't ported over. maybe i am ignorant and don't know what i am talking about but just wandering
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Ville is the codename (like "shooter" for the CDMA Evo 3D) for an HTC One S model which has the same screen resolution as the Evo 3D and its 1.11.401.110 build is based on Sense 4. That may be the primary reason why the ROM from that device was used to port the 4.x Sense versions over to the Evo 3D. The Evo 4G LTE has a larger and higher resolution display, making a Sense port from that device more difficult.
Unfortunately, the ville doesn't have a 3D camera or WiMax 4G, which is why those features are missing from the Sense 4 ports for the Evo 3D. There also seems to be a change in Wi-Fi that has so far prevented the Wi-Fi Tether app from working consistently, although it's been reported that the SVTP version does work with those ROM's.
ramjet73
What do you think about the leaked screenshots of Sense 5?
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2013/01/heres-a-sneak-peak-at-the-htc-sense-5-keyboard-and-dialer/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2013/01/the-design-of-the-htc-m7-has-finally-been-revealed/
I personally think the dialer for sure looks way better than in Sense 4. Hopefully this will be ported whenever some Roms come out! *wishfulthinking*
Looks like some of the keyboard themes I've already come across in the past year.
I have yet to see a stable sense 4.5 (ignoring the 3D), and you are already dreaming of sense 5? Gonna take a loong while. Also, there are literally thousands of keyboards out there, i am pretty sure you can find one like that if you would search
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I actually like the new sense ui. Not really a big fan of sense anymore since I went with aosp jellybean ROM. From the leeked specs I'm practically drooling over the hardware specs and new sense now lol. Giving the variety of carrier options I hope to see it come to Verizon and switch over to that phone when it comes out.
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I actually like the new sense ui. Not really a big fan of sense anymore since I went with aosp jellybean ROM. From the leeked specs I'm practically drooling over the hardware specs and new sense now lol. Giving the variety of carrier options I hope to see it come to Verizon and switch over to that phone when it comes out.
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Used to be a huge fan of Sense( loved the Sense keyboard predictions in my language), but since I tried JB 4.2.1 AOKP, the old boy sense doesn't make any sense anymore. Also I will not change my phone until the poor thing dies. I saw some pics with sense 5, nice, but as someone said, we may wait some time until is available for evo via XDA ofc, or maybe we won't have Sense5 at all.
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In leaked screenshots it does look a bit nicer and more professional look rather than that childish iOS-ish look but for some reason i really don't like the Browser & Camera icon, the Text and Phone icons look good tough.
I like the new jellybean 4.2.1 . Im running dastins cm 10.1 stable as hell with all features working minus the occasional glitches in video camcorder.
Some lucky b has sense 5 already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37016666#post37016666
Hi, im getting the Evo 3D veeery soon (from my dad, he uses it now). I know it's 2 years old phone and i will use it for 1 or more years. My question is, is it still worth it? I will use it MAINLY for Internet, games, YouTube videos etc. Should i have it, or ask him for newer phone? I won't flash any custom ROM, cuz i will use 3D and i need warranty (even thought he has the Otter Box on it )
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IMHO I think that it's still a good device with decent specifications, and after all Android 4.o is stil compatible with almost all the apps (games) on Google play store. And yes, I find 3D photos very cool Can I ask you what were you thinking to buy in alternative to evo 3D?
After that, you said you don't want to unlock it not to lose the warrnty but there are unlock methods that make you not lose warranty. I prefer an unlocked device for these reasons:
-If you do a right job, you will not lose warranty
-sense 3.6 custom roms are faster and richer of functions than the stock one (mwakious rom is excellent to take spectacular 3D pictures)
-s2w and usb OTG are becoming day after day always more essential for me, and only custom roms can provide them to me
-AOSP roms are MUCH faster than the sense ones (AOSP rom= 160-170 MB; Sense roms= 385-400 MB ). On previous versions of android I think that HTC sense was essential because added those functions that vanilla android hadn't at all, but I can see that a cyanogenmod 4.2.2 has got all the functions that I need.
-Probably (and we hope asap :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: ) agrabren would provide an AOSP rom with working 3D, so when and if it will happen I think there will be no more reson to stay on stock rom
I hope I have convinced you to come to the dark side lol but at least I hope I was able to convince you that evo is still a good device, even if htc supported it for less than a year and after abandoned it
gigsaw said:
IMHO I think that it's still a good device with decent specifications, and after all Android 4.o is stil compatible with almost all the apps (games) on Google play store. And yes, I find 3D photos very cool Can I ask you what were you thinking to buy in alternative to evo 3D?
After that, you said you don't want to unlock it not to lose the warrnty but there are unlock methods that make you not lose warranty. I prefer an unlocked device for these reasons:
-If you do a right job, you will not lose warranty
-sense 3.6 custom roms are faster and richer of functions than the stock one (mwakious rom is excellent to take spectacular 3D pictures)
-s2w and usb OTG are becoming day after day always more essential for me, and only custom roms can provide them to me
-AOSP roms are MUCH faster than the sense ones (AOSP rom= 160-170 MB; Sense roms= 385-400 MB ). On previous versions of android I think that HTC sense was essential because added those functions that vanilla android hadn't at all, but I can see that a cyanogenmod 4.2.2 has got all the functions that I need.
-Probably (and we hope asap :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: ) agrabren would provide an AOSP rom with working 3D, so when and if it will happen I think there will be no more reson to stay on stock rom
I hope I have convinced you to come to the dark side lol but at least I hope I was able to convince you that evo is still a good device, even if htc supported it for less than a year and after abandoned it
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Thank you, I'll get Evo then i thought about some Chinese phones, but i think it would ve worse than Evo. Again, thank you
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Marek989 said:
i thought about some Chinese phones, but i think it would ve worse than Evo.
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And you are right! On the paper those phones are beautiful, with hi specifications and so on...but when you get it, their quality is soooooo low, battery hasn't got a decent life time and the whole phone won't last you so long. And you didn't considered the SAR exposure, in "chinese phones" is really high and it increases with the passing of time :s :s :s :s not so healthy at all. But I see that you have an HD2..I am following the porting works for the new 3.0.16 kernel for this device and I think that some really good things are gonna happen
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And you are right! On the paper those phones are beautiful, with hi specifications and so on...but when you get it, their quality is soooooo low, battery hasn't got a decent life time and the whole phone won't last you so long. And you didn't considered the SAR exposure, in "chinese phones" is really high and it increases with the passing of time :s :s :s :s not so healthy at all. But I see that you have an HD2..I am following the porting works for the new 3.0.16 kernel for this device and I think that some really good things are gonna happen
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Hehe, yes, I'm waiting for the 3.0 kernel It will give HD2 some time untill it will die, hehe
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now updating
Ive been using leedroids firmware/rom for the last 2 years, and been great but its not getting slow, and not compatible with apps etc, plus rebooting couple times a week etc
so too am now trying to update, want to stay with sense (as its HTC !)
and of course want to keep the 3D fully working ! (still love using the 3D !)
would be good to have HDMI out still work too ?
so i too am trying to decide what kernal/rom to use !!!
from what i have read over the past day, is that sense 3.6 and below should have working 3D, 4 and upwards will not.
and ICS and under, senseless are working with 3D but not with jellybean ...
can anyone conform this ???
miniminus said:
Ive been using leedroids firmware/rom for the last 2 years, and been great but its not getting slow, and not compatible with apps etc, plus rebooting couple times a week etc
so too am now trying to update, want to stay with sense (as its HTC !)
and of course want to keep the 3D fully working ! (still love using the 3D !)
would be good to have HDMI out still work too ?
so i too am trying to decide what kernal/rom to use !!!
from what i have read over the past day, is that sense 3.6 and below should have working 3D, 4 and upwards will not.
and ICS and under, senseless are working with 3D but not with jellybean ...
can anyone conform this ???
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Only sense 3.6 and lower have everything working and only sense based ROMs have working 3d (these are mostly sense 3.6 base)
donkeykong1 said:
Only sense 3.6 and lower have everything working and only sense based ROMs have working 3d (these are mostly sense 3.6 base)
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thats great, always good to get it confirmed !!
from what ive been reading in the dev threads, looks like mwakious3Drom® ICS 4.0.3 sense3.6 seems the best one !,
plus they talking of there next update (as its still current) will have the newest sense !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648407
The Evo 3D is still a tremendous phone. It is indeed sort of 2 years old but you definitely don't notice it.
It has pretty much all functions that all other phones offer, and 3d ofcourse
Very satisfied with mine. I use it for internet, facebook etc.
It's a shame that they didn't want to put jellybean on it. With 1GB ram and a 1.2ghz dual core processor it is more than strong enough.
Oh and remember to get a micro SD storage card of 4GB or more if you plan on gaming!
The specs say that it has 4GB of internal space, but 3GB is "locked" and only 1GB is available.