Speculations welcome; Win8/ICS Dualboot after the 23th March - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Now that Gary has given us much to speculate about in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23409128#post23409128
Gary Key said:
Good Day,
I am starting this thread to provide general updates and information on current or future products. In addition, at times I will address rumors where applicable.
Items- 3/8/2012
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4. I will have some exciting news in about two weeks on the TF201.
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I am starting this thread by proclaiming at the beginning of spring in the nothern hemisphere Asus will show off and give techies the dualboot solution with Win8 Arm and ICS.
Sorry Gary, I just had to do this. Pure speculation though but I am sure I am right.
So you might as well "let the cat out of the sack" as Trapattoni claims.

FTFY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23409128#post23409128

131313 said:
Now that Gary has given us much to speculate about in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23409128#post23409128
I am starting this thread by proclaiming at the beginning of spring in the nothern hemisphere Asus will show off and give techies the dualboot solution with Win8 Arm and ICS.
Sorry Gary, I just had to do this. Pure speculation though but I am sure I am right.
So you might as well "let the cat out of the sack" as Trapattoni claims.
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I don't BELIEVE that's what's going to be announced, but man, that would be pretty cool. I'm still not sure if Office will run on the ARM version (I'm thinking X86 apps won't, but I've seen so much conflicting info lately I"m not sure). Without Office, it would be more of a novelty for me, though.

131313 said:
Now that Gary has given us much to speculate about in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23409128#post23409128
I am starting this thread by proclaiming at the beginning of spring in the nothern hemisphere Asus will show off and give techies the dualboot solution with Win8 Arm and ICS.
Sorry Gary, I just had to do this. Pure speculation though but I am sure I am right.
So you might as well "let the cat out of the sack" as Trapattoni claims.
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Yea, only in your dreams. That'll never happen.... as far as dualboot being officially supported by Asus and Microsoft (doesn't make sense at all for Asus)
As far as speculations go.. my guess.. is.. more or less.. likely.. an update to Android 4.04
Btw, Capello is gone... about time for Trapattoni as well? =P

where are all those mofos that tried to doubt what I said about the the "Fix"? you see it in plain writing now. I rest my case. lmfao lmfao
don't hide now Barry n others
seems like good news is coming though. let me keep reading Gary post. I had to bring this back up.

Maybe they will recall all of them in two weeks, and give us something that works a little smoother, and a tablet with glass that does not break while docked, this would be nice.

Will never happen. Have you seen new article on XDA portal? Regarding win8 tablets being locked down to allow ONLY win8 to boot. Mind you, if they base win8 tablet on TFP, we might get tablet analog of htc hd2.
Sent from my 7th TF201

wynand32 said:
I don't BELIEVE that's what's going to be announced, but man, that would be pretty cool. I'm still not sure if Office will run on the ARM version (I'm thinking X86 apps won't, but I've seen so much conflicting info lately I"m not sure). Without Office, it would be more of a novelty for me, though.
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While windows 8 on prime is not coming officially I can say for near sure, office will be built for Windows on arm for 100% sure. There is no way whatsoever they would leave it out. It is their flagship product and they know very well the only way they will stand a chance in the tablet market is to get office and other desktop like software running on their os.
I also say update to ICS 4.0.4

I'd say ICS update and new 3.0 kernel update. maybe Asus will unlock some of the ICS features found in the phones on our tablet like FaceUnlock, wifi direct transfer, and maybe 5Ghz wifi N band(we currently only have 2.5Ghz N band enabled.
I know one of the ultimate things would be allowing users to unlock without voiding warranty. or at least fully unlocking allowing NVflash and fastboot. I have some other great guesses but I won't mention them. Ill let it be a surprise

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I'd say ICS update and new 3.0 kernel update. maybe Asus will unlock some of the ICS features found in the phones on our tablet like FaceUnlock, wifi direct transfer, and maybe 5Ghz wifi N band(we currently only have 2.5Ghz N band enabled.
I know one of the ultimate things would be allowing users to unlock without voiding warranty. or at least fully unlocking allowing NVflash and fastboot. I have some other great guesses but I won't mention them. Ill let it be a surprise
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I'll take everything they will give...
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remember: I get a new mainboard, maybe a replacement though I'd prefer the mainboard only. Got way to much familiar with the sucker in these three weeks, it had only one almost invisible llight bleed.
And yes this is probably my specific solution I recall plastic pieces falling out of one docking hole after I had peeled out the rubber

Doubt it's windows 8
http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/microsoft-confirms-lockdown-of-arm-devices-running-windows-8/

No, not gonna happen. No way in hell. Absolutely not possible.

131313 said:
Now that Gary has given us much to speculate about in his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23409128#post23409128
I am starting this thread by proclaiming at the beginning of spring in the nothern hemisphere Asus will show off and give techies the dualboot solution with Win8 Arm and ICS.
Sorry Gary, I just had to do this. Pure speculation though but I am sure I am right.
So you might as well "let the cat out of the sack" as Trapattoni claims.
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Gaaaary, I stopped using Winfuck when Android hit the stream
This ISN'T my Transformer Prime

demandarin said:
where are all those mofos that tried to doubt what I said about the the "Fix"? you see it in plain writing now. I rest my case. lmfao lmfao
don't hide now Barry n others
seems like good news is coming though. let me keep reading Gary post. I had to bring this back up.
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Lets just wait. April should be a good one. Dont count your chickens till the eggs are hatched. If there isnt a fix by April, suck for the people with problems. If there is a fix good for them.
Hope that exciting news will make consumers that are having problems with their primes happy and not just an award that the TF201 has has received. It doesnt really suggest anything: I guess we just have to wait in two week if its really exciting or not.

I'd say Android 5.0 confirmation is more likely, possibly a release date?

androidcommunity.com/asus-says-theyll-be-first-to-android-5-0-jelly-bean-20120302/
Jelly Bean is coming to Primes...
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Here is jorokw's link:
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-says-theyll-be-first-to-android-5-0-jelly-bean-20120302/
"Just like the original Transformer was the first to update to new versions of Honeycomb, the Prime was the first to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Now ASUS has mentioned Android 5.0 and Jelly Bean, and we sure are excited."
Could it be the news?? ... If it is, I hope we dont run into the random locks, reboots, lags all over again with ICS.

junrider said:
Here is jorokw's link:
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-says-theyll-be-first-to-android-5-0-jelly-bean-20120302/
"Just like the original Transformer was the first to update to new versions of Honeycomb, the Prime was the first to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Now ASUS has mentioned Android 5.0 and Jelly Bean, and we sure are excited."
Could it be the news?? ... If it is, I hope we dont run into the random locks, reboots, lags all over again with ICS.
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that wouldn't be news as we've already heard about that for a little while now. there's a few threads on it. I think its too early to jump to a whole new version now. ICS still brand new. Android needs to catch everyone up to ICS before updating to next version. fragmentation needs to be minimized as much as possible.

Could it be a price-drop?

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Could it be a price-drop?
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That doesn't help current owners unless they also offer to refund the difference... and that would cost Asus their entire profit. Don't see that happening.
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First Real ICS Tablet Announced for February

The Toshiba Excite. OMAP is better than Teg2 but other than being the thinnest tablet, especially with ports, it's pretty ordinary.
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/link?id=4740#1
Before the original Transformer was announced, I was pretty set on getting the Toshiba Thrive. And then the release kept getting pushed back and back without explanation (hmm, sounds familiar) and I ended up getting the TF101 instead.
Yesterday, I saw a Thrive at my local Best Buy for the first time, and was instantly glad I didn't buy one; it was enormous.
Anyway, good to see the new one won't be so ungainly.
How is this the first real ICS tablet? The first one announced to launch with it?
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How is this the first real ICS tablet? The first one announced to launch with it?
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I'm thinkn the same thing. No where in article states it launching with ICS. Plus the specs on it sux. It wont be a really be a major factor against other upcoming tablets or prime.
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How is this the first real ICS tablet? The first one announced to launch with it?
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There was a thread about some obscure Chinese company launching 5 low-rent ICS tablets. Toshiba's a "real" company.
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I'm thinkn the same thing. No where in article states it launching with ICS. Plus the specs on it sux. It wont be a really be a major factor against other upcoming tablets or prime.
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Did you click on the link? The description on the Toshiba site says "February" and "Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)." So it seems that Toshiba may be the first major vendor to deploy ICS on a tablet. That's the part that's interesting, not its specs.
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There was a thread about some obscure Chinese company launching 5 low-rent ICS tablets. Toshiba's a "real" company.
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Did you click on the link? The description on the Toshiba site says "February" and "Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)." So it seems that Toshiba may be the first major vendor to deploy ICS on a tablet. That's the part that's interesting, not its specs.
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I don't know about you, but I fully expect the Prime to come out before February, and I expect Asus to update it with ICS before that point too. I may end up being disappointed, but I wouldn't assume something that may launch in February will one up anything at this point...
Toshitba don't update their firmware. Got burned when getting their PDA. The only make better laptops IMO.
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I don't know about you, but I fully expect the Prime to come out before February.
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On 3.2
and I expect Asus to update it with ICS before that point too.
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That's where it gets really interesting based on Asus' desire to accumulate firsts. One could say a line's been drawn in the sand.
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On 3.2
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Yes... which is why I went on to say, "I expect Asus to update it with ICS before that point too. I may end up being disappointed. . ."
I still don't understand why you would call something which hasn't been released yet the first anything. Even if it releases February 1, there's still a month and a half between then and now and no reason to expect it will take longer than that for Asus to put out ICS for the Prime.
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Yes... which is why I went on to say, "I expect Asus to update it with ICS before that point too. I may end up being disappointed. . ."
I still don't understand why you would call something which hasn't been released yet the first anything. Even if it releases February 1, there's still a month and a half between then and now and no reason to expect it will take longer than that for Asus to put out ICS for the Prime.
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You guys are so torqued by the potential for a delay and other stuff that I think you've lost your senses of humor. Asus has said all along they want to be the first with ICS. If you weren't so overly sensitive you'd look at what I posted as good news. It means that to beat Toshiba, Asus will probably have ICS out before February.

Complaints about Asus and their Transformer Prime

Well I was told to go elsewhere to complain about Asus and the problems I am having with the $680 64Gb prime I bought. So since Diamondback is getting tired of closing threads and deleting posts, I decided on starting a thread were people who need or want to vent can come and vent. And to be fair if you have good things to say about Asus or your Prime please share it here.
As I have tried to say before I like my Prime but am getting tired of the problems that have not been fixed or pop up after an update is released..
I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
I miss the complaint thread. At least there was the hope that Asus would actually read their own thread, which ended up not being the case.
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
David522d said:
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
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Absolutely true.
Asus took the easy way out by sending us a 4 dollar piece of plastic and wire, instead of working on the actual issues.
Since i see demandarin posting in this thread, so much for your update prediction. This is getting totally ridiculous. , and Asus seems fine with it.I have bought so much Asus stuff over the years, i will be rethinking that, after the prime fiasco,
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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Class action suits are awesome for all lawyers involved and the original filer. No one added to the class gets anything useful.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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That's really your personal opinion on the matter. How it unfolds.. I guess we'll have to just wait and see (we won't find out until few yrs later anyways). Btw, what do you mean by no "official" filing?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
What else do you need?? What's more official?
You sir are mistaken.
demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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This is not correct, the papers were filed over two months ago, the case is strong and will move forward in good time. ASuS as already been to two informal hearing at the various law firms involved when they were in CA. And as stated in previous post, you can let the team know that you'd like to be a part if they need anymore actual users of this product to appear in court. I've been watching mr. demandarin for quite some time and I'm sorry to say, but I feel he is either privileged by ASUS or just a tireless fan boy. Nothing wrong with enjoying a product and company that as serviced you to your satisfaction, but most of us that have kept quite for some time have followed long and tedious arguments that involved this individual. I give credit where credit is due but do not idolize any company, person, device or anything else so I can be a little more unbiased when assessing a situation. If you are unhappy with a product, this is the place to seek help, and if you can get a actual rep to listen, good for you! If you can't, then it's time to take legal action and get louder so that others are protected from having the same treatment as you. So by all means, follow the previous posters advice, seek out legal action. It will be funny to see how many fans will have their hand's out for the settlement money when it is awarded. Mark my words.
Thanks
I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
I also would like to know if anyone has tried to use a Huawei E369 Datacard with their Prime. I have read that the Huawei 17xx was working but would like to buy the newest one out that will work so it will last at least 5 years before it becomes outdated.
I've noticed as of late that asus has stfu about everything. I realize that Gary was sick, but "official posts" are becoming fewer and farther between. They are going into defense mode. They know they are sol to fix the issues without having to put out a full recall which is a huge embarrassment and going to cost them an arm and a leg, plus street cred. It's getting to end game folks. They better be brewing a software miracle, or an overall solution. I think a lawsuit has legs with the horrible performance, Dongle be damned.
I would think a class action lawsuit has a foothold. There is absolutely no way that Asus did not know about the wifi and GPS issues when they launched. They got caught up in the "iPad killer" hype and wanted to get them out by Christmas. The lack of advertising by Asus and the retail establishment is icing on the cake.
Funny thing is that I picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for my birthday last week and it is snappier than my Prime (especially when browsing and installing from the Play store)
The lack of updates is disconcerting as well. Perhaps there are no further firmware/software fixes for this device.
It is simply a small blip on the Android Tablet radar that will go down in history as a complete and utter failure.
Kasper31 said:
I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
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There has been a ton of discussion about this just today, problem is it keeps getting shut down, either by reported posts, or, over zealous mods, either way, the ends the same
The mysterious , unreleased firmware should be telling everybody something, the og transformer has had the update to .24 for quite sometime, the prime testers have had it for at least 2 weeks or more, one in particular gave today as a release date, even though some of those testers are reporting good results, I'm not buying it. If it was ready for prime time it would have dropped.It seems like I have new issues pop up every day, or the same issues manifesting in different ways
I have multiple issues with prime, i am going to ask Asus for a refund, probably more than ask, and go with something else, other tegra 3 tablets available, and the A700 and thrive are getting rave reviews, They certainly can't be worse than the Prime, and i doubt they will go backwards with no explanation like the prime.Asus is going to lose my business for sure
I have 2 different PM's to both Asus_usa and Gary key, for 2 and a half days now, so far no response yet, for dedicated forum support, thats unacceptable.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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opps... didnt see someone posted the link to the filing. lol But If anything comes from it remains to be seen..
All I want is the browser sped up and I would be perfectly happy. Gary mentioned that there would be an upgrade to browsing in the new firmware but after this much time it leads you to think that it must be a hardware issue. Although Asus has always been outed by other sources before they give out any real information.
I bought a top of the line Android Tablet and I swear my girlfriends Kindle browses the internet faster.
It is also odd to see that new post the other day about the Asus Nexus Tablet. It is hard to believe that they would be able to meet Demand or Expectations after all of the Prime problems.
Yea I am getting tired closing all your threads....
What's so hard about posting in existing threads?
I understand that you want answers, I want them too, but making new threads each day complaning about the issues won't get you any answers...
Gary doesn't answer in threads, so maybe the situation will change with the new guy - Asus_USA - but until then please use the existing threads.

Hi Gary, can we get some sort of update?

Gary,
Just wanted to see if we can get some sort of progress update... how is testing going, what fixes are being targetted, and what sort of ETA are we looking at for the next firmware? Also, is an official Jellybean release in the pipe?
Every day, more and more Prime users are unlocking their devices (and therefore invalidating their warranty) so they can install custom roms and not feel like they just thrown $500 down the drain. It's sad that people are being forced to do this to make their "premium device" usable.
I couldn't even play the games I bought from the play store on the stock rom. Normally, I'd have to reboot to get them to even launch, and then they'd flake out and force close shortly after.
So, any chance Asus can keep us in the loop better? The silent just compounds the pain people are feeling.
Thanks.
I second this - I have PMed Gary but no reply... Just would like to know something new!
I never buy a asus product again...just wach the video with nexus7 review.....works perfecly..
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valentinrascu said:
I never buy a asus product again...just wach the video with nexus7 review.....works perfecly..
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I hate to point out the irony in that statement.
tmeader said:
I hate to point out the irony in that statement.
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shhhh maybe he doesn't know its an asus product yet xD
I'll never buy another apple again...the new ipad works awesome....doh.
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Also, it is pointless to ask Gary for any ETA's on updates......The answer is "Soon". Sit tight or unlock.
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I never buy a asus product again...just wach the video with nexus7 review.....works perfecly..
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which video?
Perhaps his point is that ASUS is able to get a product right when they want to and they apply themselves., which arguably they have not done for the Prime.
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Perhaps his point is that ASUS is able to get a product right when they want to and they apply themselves., which arguably they have not done for the Prime.
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Or more likely, he has his head up his a**.
Truth be told, the N7 will be Asus' what? FOURTH cut at a Tegra3 tablet? I'd be stunned if it wasn't a bit more stable than the rev 1 product. Not that the obviously poor QA on rev1 is acceptable but that was them trying to force the product into a market window and shorting the QA. Google almost certainly forced decent QA onto them for the N7 in addition to their hard earned experience with the TF201.
What ever happened with extra support person on the forum?
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What ever happened with extra support person on the forum?
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Was wondering that too
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Was wondering that too
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They're supporting non-discontinued products.
I wonder since Jelly Bean is coming have they just left us in limbo on 28.5? I know beta testers are testing but how much effort is Gary/Asus really going to put into 28.5 now that 4.1 is a go!
Not the software.....
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Mickeylittle said:
I wonder since Jelly Bean is coming have they just left us in limbo on 28.5? I know beta testers are testing but how much effort is Gary/Asus really going to put into 28.5 now that 4.1 is a go!
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.28.5 has came n gone. .29 is the next test release. I will be receiving it to test any moment/day now. I will wait till I find out more details on its changelog before saying what it addresses(they only gave me initial vague description. we need more details). I'd much rather they just jump head first into jellybean 4.1. start from a good stable base. I will try to push the jellybean idea. I already told them about I/O issues are main complaint and linked them to various threads and solutions found. So i would think they do know about it and working on it.
as far as the other support person. I think he operates more through PM and emails.
I think we will get jellybean soon. its a matter if developers or Asus will bring it first. I know AOKP and CM9 TEAM already plan on their future releases being jellybean based.
I can only hope that they do something about the IO issue in the next update. The prime becomes unbelievably slow at times when the IO activity rises. Doesn't matter it has a quad core if the bottleneck is elsewhere.
I'll be unlocking this evening too ... seems like there'll be some time again before the release of a stable stock ROM ...
Current release to AOSP /jb is now 4.1.1. Continuing to try and mess with the failed build of IML74K 4.0.3 imo is just a waste of time for Asus get to work on porting N7's 4.1.1 already
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Or more likely, he has his head up his a**.
Truth be told, the N7 will be Asus' what? FOURTH cut at a Tegra3 tablet? I'd be stunned if it wasn't a bit more stable than the rev 1 product. Not that the obviously poor QA on rev1 is acceptable but that was them trying to force the product into a market window and shorting the QA. Google almost certainly forced decent QA onto them for the N7 in addition to their hard earned experience with the TF201.
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You mean their hard earned experience at our expense, right?
Except that some of the problems with the TF201 were amateurish - the kind of mistakes that anyone with any training in radio and electronics engineering should never have made. That was compounded by the equally amateurish QA process (hey, Asus isn't a new company - they didn't just start making these things last year - they've been making motherboards, desktops and laptops for a decade - it shouldn't take three or four tries to get it right) and the appallingly lame approach they took towards 'fixing' the problem after trying to deny it existed.
Then, to add insult to injury - they release the TF700 and TF300 - both of which have the problems fixed.. except the TF700 has a much higher res screen - AT THE SAME PRICE... and the TF300 is much cheaper... Both of which were announced less than a month after the TF201 was released - and after Asus has restricted returns of the TF201 making it impossible for many people to change their minds.
I get that a lot of people here just want to feel warm and fuzzy about their choice - I know I do - and if you want to deny reality to make yourself feel good, hey - that's why psychosis exists. But the facts speak for themselves.
Me.. I fully understand how he feels. I know I won't be touching another Asus product again, which is sad because I actually *like* the Prime - I just hate how Asus bungled it and haven't seen anything to restore my trust in Asus..
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Current release to AOSP /jb is now 4.1.1. Continuing to try and mess with the failed build of IML74K 4.0.3 imo is just a waste of time for Asus get to work on porting N7's 4.1.1 already
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I agree! The time to fix 4.0.3 has come and gone many months ago when they had their lead developers focused on the TF201. I'd much rather be testing a beta release of JB 4.1.1 than a new beta release of .29 firmware.

Dangit ASUS! Motorola beat you to it again.

Looks like the XOOM gets the update before we do. Again.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/2...oid-4-1-1-build-jro03h-here-is-the-changelog/
I'm kinda surprised the Verizon version doesn't get it first. I mean people paid a ****load of money for the 3G/4G version they should get JB before or at the same time as the wi-fi Xoom. Of course this is probably due to it being on a carrier and having restrictions.
Either way, it took me awhile to realize that since I had unlocked my bootloader I wasn't going to get any updates from Asus. This is fine since the dev community will put a fully functional JB ROM out before Asus will have it for the Prime I bet (if it hasn't already happened).
The xoom will always get updates first, along with the nexus 7.
It was a google reference device and essentially the first nexus tablet in a way.
Now if Acer or Lenovo or someone else get it before Asus, then dangit asus.
They didnt beat anyone..lol all they did was announce their device will recieve it. just like aSus did.
P.s. whose to say jb on prime isn't already in testing?
isnt the Xoom the nexus device for honeycomb? afaik it is a google experience device so it will likely get it first.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
WiFi Xoom is a GED device, its a given it'll get updates first.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
demandarin said:
They didnt beat anyone..lol all they did was announce their device will recieve it. just like aSus did.
P.s. whose to say jb on prime isn't already in testing?
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You're such a tease.
google does own motorola
Additionally, this forum is NOT a place to complain about Asus practices. It doesn't add anything to the forum. If you are really that displeased with your Transformer Prime, sell it.
GS_Dan said:
You're such a tease.
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+1 to this. Demandarin always giving us high hopes for our Primes. Spill the beans!!!!
st33med said:
Additionally, this forum is NOT a place to complain about Asus practices. It doesn't add anything to the forum. If you are really that displeased with your Transformer Prime, sell it.
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People like you should stay off the Internet. You'll have an early heart attack.
Plus I've been running the team eos build of JB on the prime, and it already seems to operate better then their same ICS build.
It's quite nice and will only get better.
regalpimpin said:
Plus I've been running the team eos build of JB on the prime, and it already seems to operate better then their same ICS build.
It's quite nice and will only get better.
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same here, it gets a lil better every build.
i don't think an official JB release, (which is probably some time away, knowing ASUS' support of this tablet)
is worth waiting for.
Jonphinguyen7 said:
+1 to this. Demandarin always giving us high hopes for our Primes. Spill the beans!!!!
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I agree with you.
Now that he has a Nexus 7 he will be all over the thread, like he uses to be
on the Prime. Lecturing, tutoring, reprimanding and lauding the Prime against all evidences.
I returned my Prime for three reasons : weakness of the wi-fi, no GPS (even if I am more than "totally satisfied" with the Galaxy Nexus), and an horrible Customer Service.
I strongly intended to buy the Infinity. But the unfixed i/o issue and the built quality (and QC) are a deterrent to me no matter what Demanderin says about Asus.
Apparently Nexus 7 has some QC problems. Not mine. I am ordering a second one this week. It will be my lab to take advantage of the works of our dedicated devs in this Forum. It is also a vote of confidence for Google products, with no bloatware ....so far and quick update releases.
I will buy the Nexus 10, just hoping it will be manufactured by Google-Motorola and not by Asus.
Google will learn from its first experience in the tablet market.
The ranters and whiners as much as the extreme lauders are blind or ignorant ( sorry for the redundancy for an ignorant is blind which is not true for a blind who can be of a superior intelligence.
See you, most of you I mean, on the Nexus 7 thread.
Good luck and good ride on your Prime and Infinity.
Not sure what the fuss is about with Moto Xoom receiving JB...
Moto Xoom is technically a "nexus" device & Google specifically said Moto Xoom will receive JB update by mid-July at Google I/O
Now... Samsung is rumored to update Samsung Galaxy SIII (SII & Galaxy Note to follow soon after) with Jellybean by Aug/Sept...
When you factor in carrier restriction, Touchwiz skin.. and etc... & if Samsung does pull it off before Asus (especially for WIFI only tablet without any carrier restriction).... well, you can start a fuss...
Edit: Speaking of which..Padfone even updated to Android 4.0.4
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ter-battery-life-improved-stability-and-more/
As I recall The Prime had ICS before the Xoom..So what do you mean again?
Matstarr said:
As I recall The Prime had ICS before the Xoom..So what do you mean again?
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And that was only for a day or two (official release version)...
Along with Moto Xoom getting ICS "beta" test for few users before ICS started to roll out for Asus Transformer Prime...
Didn't the JB "soak test" for the Xoom get delayed anyway?

1 Month since we've heard from Gary

Are you still around or did you abandon us and move on? A quick update of any progess would be nice at this point.
I think an attorney snooping around ASSUS files would get some action. Time to make some demands or look into class action.
This is no way to treat a cash paying customer.
Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
shinzz said:
Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
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Yeah the prime has been out for sooooooooooooo loooooonnnngggg !!
Its hardly old ! Alot of primes are still under warranty...
I've now unlocked so my warranty is void (perhaps what asus want from everyone really) but i dont consider the prime to be an old device.
I agree that Gary was only here to calm the flames though, as you rightly say theres no point sending a marketing guy .. i honnestly think his purpose was to keep us quiet for a while. and it worked!
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Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
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Spot on mate, GARY is not ASUS, he just represents/works for them.
Abandon all hope!!
I have pmd and sent Gary emails recently also the other person he said to contact (asus_usa) with no response from either.
My prime has had the infamous wifi issue which actually got worse through updates---it is sitting in RMA AFTER a LEVEL3 TECH AT ASUS said they would treat it as warranty even though i had unlocked the bootloader
Its status is waiting o customer-out of warranty/customer induced damage----it has been there almost 1 month!!!
A person in rma said it is going to cost me 165 for motherboard and 40?? not sure the exact figure labor WTF. She also said after last email she would look into it and reply ASAP--that was last week Thursday
I feel I have been lied to, misled, and ripped off!!!
happened last month as well a month in between cryptic messages, honestly give up on Asus Already we have had these devices nearly a year now and support has been horrible how long since we got an update again?, if you want something less buggy grab CM10 or Hairybean and call it a day, ASUS will slap JB on the device and probably be done with it, whenever that happens
Since everyone's prime has a year warrenty then I'd say all Primes are still under warrenty. My Prime runs just fine. Not compalining it would be nice to get an update of some sort.
Here in Germany we have 2 years implied warranty. So there is over 1 year until the first warranty runs out.
shinzz said:
Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
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Late in Prime's life?
It's a 9 Month old Tablet, with better specs than most things out there running JB already. Not to mention that the hardware it's pretty much the same as the other Transformers.
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
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msfguard said:
...support has been horrible how long since we got an update again?...
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It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
ratman6161 said:
It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
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It is a long time if you consider that the Prime is suffering from several software related issues which should have been fixed several months ago. ASUS should be pushing out patches every few weeks until the tablet is working as advertised.
I don't recall seeing in the Ads for this tablet that "You can expect ANR messages constantly when browsing, or your tablet will be unusable when the Play Store is updating all your apps! Yes you to can enjoy these great features all for a low price of $500! But wait theres more... If you order now, you can enjoy completely random reboots at no extra charge!"
It has been almost a year since its release... the prime should be stable as hell right now, but that is not the reality. I am not usually one to complain about these types of things, but even I am getting frustrated with the lack of fixes. Really hoping that JB will solve all of these problems and make the tablet work as it should have from day one.
ratman6161 said:
It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
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Yes, and how many of those phones have crazy QC & wide range of issues like Prime? Plus, you are forgetting that most are on Android 4.04 (final & most stable version of ICS....)
Also, lets stop this argument of "Asus updated often compared to all other device".
While it might be true, it also means PRIME had ton of issues/bugs to fix through updates..... however, the updates only added more issues instead of resolving them.
Plus, those looking for GARY to solve everything... he won't, and he can't. HE IS JUST MARKETING GUY. Nothing more, nothing less...
Those thinking JB will resolve all of your current issue... IT ALSO WON'T. S/W cannot fix H/W issue...... If you have crap WIFI.. blah blah blah... it'll be crap with JB as well.
And to those who keep saying.. "mine works fine, ppl are blowing things out of proportion". No, we are not. Glad you have a working product that suits your need.... but... DUE TO CRAZY QC issue, there are MANY.. I mean MANY who have absolute garbage device. Yes, we all tried calling customer support, contact gary/asus_tien, ***** at where we purchased our tablet, RMA... blah blah blah for refund or whatever.
Smurphjw said:
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
Sent from the matrix. (or my phone)
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I might suggest that "more updates than any other phone" is not a good thing.
All these updates are band-aids for the TF201 beta that should never have been released in the first place.
Poor decisions by an even poorer company.
theandies said:
Since everyone's prime has a year warrenty then I'd say all Primes are still under warrenty. My Prime runs just fine. Not compalining it would be nice to get an update of some sort.
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Not the unlocked crowd...
knowaczark said:
I might suggest that "more updates than any other phone" is not a good thing.
All these updates are band-aids for the TF201 beta that should never have been released in the first place.
Poor decisions by an even poorer company.
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How can constant sw updates to address issues be a bad thing? My epic touch has HORRIBLE battery life after the move from GB. You know what Samsung did? Called it quits on the s2. Asus is still pushing updates to the original transformer. Fixing issues with updates sounds like good practice to me.
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Smurphjw said:
How can constant sw updates to address issues be a bad thing? My epic touch has HORRIBLE battery life after the move from GB. You know what Samsung did? Called it quits on the s2. Asus is still pushing updates to the original transformer. Fixing issues with updates sounds like good practice to me.
Sent from the matrix. (or my phone)
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s2 will get jb in next few months, hasnt been abandoned..
problem with the prime update is that the last update is unstable and has been so for 98 days from now. last time my prime came back from rma, software resetted and it gave crashes and SOD from the first day.
custom jb rom: no problems at all!
conclusion: bad software with no patches.
Smurphjw said:
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
Sent from the matrix. (or my phone)
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You make that sound like a good thing. The reason the Prime received these updates is because the OS and possibly the hardware was horribly kludged. Every update was put out to address reboot, SoD, freezing issues, Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, the list goes on. It had nothing to do with improving functionality as much as it did giving the expected functionality to the unit.
Tempie007 said:
s2 will get jb in next few months, hasnt been abandoned..
problem with the prime update is that the last update is unstable and has been so for 98 days from now. last time my prime came back from rma, software resetted and it gave crashes and SOD from the first day.
custom jb rom: no problems at all!
conclusion: bad software with no patches.
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That's exactly what there trying to avoid this time around. 3 semi stable ICS updates that introduced new issues. Or 1 JB update that they test the crap out of. The reason its taking so long (which isn't really that long) is cuz prime owners have a tendency, rightfully so in SOME cases, to complain about everything. My point is there is no justified reason to complain about there software update practices.
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