Had my Razr Maxx for two days and was wondering if this was good battery life.
Battery is at 70 per Battery Indicator Pro.
16 hours on battery - took off charger when I got up at 4:30 am.
Cell stand by 29% - time on 16 hours - no signal 20%.
Display 18% - 1 hr 50 mins.
Voice Calls 15% - 19 mins.
Android OS 13% - 30 mins.
Phone Idle 7% - 15 hrs.
Android System 6% - 11 mins.
Bluetooth was on 11.5 hrs.
Am running Galaxy Live Wallpaper.
Used Fresh Network when I got to work at 6 am.
CDMA only.
No GPS.
Had sim card removed while playing with another phone for an hour.
Had WiFi on for an hour.
Have a Smart Action to disable cellular data setup.
Am also syncing two gmail accounts.
If you're at 70% with 16 hours that should tell you its good.
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I got this with a reg razr
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I got this with a reg razr
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I don't believe it.
BrettXNA said:
Had my Razr Maxx for two days and was wondering if this was good battery life.
Battery is at 70 per Battery Indicator Pro.
16 hours on battery - took off charger when I got up at 4:30 am.
Cell stand by 29% - time on 16 hours - no signal 20%.
Display 18% - 1 hr 50 mins.
Voice Calls 15% - 19 mins.
Android OS 13% - 30 mins.
Phone Idle 7% - 15 hrs.
Android System 6% - 11 mins.
Bluetooth was on 11.5 hrs.
Am running Galaxy Live Wallpaper.
Used Fresh Network when I got to work at 6 am.
CDMA only.
No GPS.
Had sim card removed while playing with another phone for an hour.
Had WiFi on for an hour.
Have a Smart Action to disable cellular data setup.
Am also syncing two gmail accounts.
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That's insanely good. I'm such a heavy user my battery barely makes it through the day.
I got my Razr MAXX yesterday, fully charged it overnight. Woke up at 6am, battery was at 100%. It's 3:00pm now, and the battery is at 50%. Been using the phone quite a bit today, but don't think this is what I paid $300 for! Plaese tell me if I'm wrong...
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ari-nj said:
I got my Razr MAXX yesterday, fully charged it overnight. Woke up at 6am, battery was at 100%. It's 3:00pm now, and the battery is at 50%. Been using the phone quite a bit today, but don't think this is what I paid $300 for! Plaese tell me if I'm wrong...
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The reason you are having less than expected battery life is because the battery isn't conditioned yet. Best way to do it is to charge it to 100% before using the first time. Then you discharge it as much as possible by using the flashlight all the time, turn on Bluetooth and GPS, wifi, etc. Then completely charge it. Do this for about a week and your battery life should get quite a bit better. Had to do it with both my stock battery and extended one for my Epic 4G Touch. Made all the difference in the world. The batteries do not come pre-conditioned from the manufacturer. Your mileage may vary though...
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Actually don't do the above it doesn't help and if you do it too much you will hurt the battery. Also new Li-Ion batteries are conditioned when you get them. Keep it charged, keep the phone cool never hot, and never let the battery stay completely discharged.
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Actually don't do the above it doesn't help and if you do it too much you will hurt the battery. Also new Li-Ion batteries are conditioned when you get them. Keep it charged, keep the phone cool never hot, and never let the battery stay completely discharged.
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If that is the case with Li-Ion batteries, then why did the manufacture say to do that as part of the conditioning process? Not meaning to be rude about it but conditioning a battery, Li-Ion or not, Is good for people that use the hell out of their phones. Same goes with car batteries. I aint saying to do it all the time with a cell phone but the first week aint going to mess it up. It is actually better on Li-Ion batteries to do complete cycles than partial. Do your research for yourself and see.
Also, my co-worker had an E4GT, with an extended battery like mine. I did the conditioning process that I described and that was recommended by the battery's MFG. My battery lasted almost TWO days. His would last about 18 hours off the charger. Proof is in the pudding.
Guys.. keep using your phone and let it cycle through normal charges for about a week. You should have better battery life. Android takes a while to learn where to stop your battery, and it often will undercharge it during the first few cycles.
I have two Traxxas R/C trucks. And they use Lithium Ion batteries. It is known that you never let them heat up excessively. Reason is heat will kill the life expectancy of lithium in a heart beat. Most of the time cutting its charge capacity in half. The same goes for letting it die. If the battery does not have a protection circuit built into the battery or on the phone it self and the battery drops below 3.2 volts per cell. Then the life will be cut. Lithium is a very touchy chemistry. In all of its current forms it needs to be handled and maintained properly.
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I have two Traxxas R/C trucks. And they use Lithium Ion batteries. It is known that you never let them heat up excessively. Reason is heat will kill the life expectancy of lithium in a heart beat. Most of the time cutting its charge capacity in half. The same goes for letting it die. If the battery does not have a protection circuit built into the battery or on the phone it self and the battery drops below 3.2 volts per cell. Then the life will be cut. Lithium is a very touchy chemistry. In all of its current forms it needs to be handled and maintained properly.
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Those are lipo (lithium polymer). They are more susceptible to voltage issues and dropping below their charge threshold.
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I downloaded juice defender today... Been off the charger since about 5am and it's now 8:15pm. I have over 40% battery left! I also just got my verizon navigation dashboard mount, had the phone plugged in for a little while, but overall I think that if I keep this up, I should be in pretty good shape.
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No problems here. Been off the charger since 6:15 CST and many calls, browsing, about 200 txt messages, YouTube vids and streaming Pandora I'm still at 57%.
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EVO -vs- MAXX
Comi from an HTC Evo ... Let just say the MAXX if off charge from 0430 until bedtime ar 2100 ... lowest the battery has gotten - with moderate use through the day is 40%! Had this been my Evo, I'd have charged the phone twice during the day.
bzxzlg said:
Comi from an HTC Evo ... Let just say the MAXX if off charge from 0430 until bedtime ar 2100 ... lowest the battery has gotten - with moderate use through the day is 40%! Had this been my Evo, I'd have charged the phone twice during the day.
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did you flash the maxx to Sprint or what?
Had the Maxx for a week now and I love it! Been off the charger for 15 hrs with over 2 hrs screen on and 2 hrs 20 min talk time, light browsing, and a little ebay app, still have 46%. I had a rezound with the extended battery and I got similar battery life. Seems like it's doing better every day.
I purposely left my maxx off the charger last night. This morning at 6:15 it was at 17% battery life left. This is way better than my dinc with the extended 2150 battery. I would have already charged it a couple times with the same amount of usage.
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If that is the case with Li-Ion batteries, then why did the manufacture say to do that as part of the conditioning process? Not meaning to be rude about it but conditioning a battery, Li-Ion or not, Is good for people that use the hell out of their phones. Same goes with car batteries. I aint saying to do it all the time with a cell phone but the first week aint going to mess it up. It is actually better on Li-Ion batteries to do complete cycles than partial. Do your research for yourself and see.
Also, my co-worker had an E4GT, with an extended battery like mine. I did the conditioning process that I described and that was recommended by the battery's MFG. My battery lasted almost TWO days. His would last about 18 hours off the charger. Proof is in the pudding.
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Sorry, not to be a jerk but all the information in your posts is completely inaccurate. Each battery type differs so you cannot generalize and compare it to a car battery. Nowhere has it ever been said by any cellular phone manufacturer that the battery requires any conditioning. In fact, continuously discharging the battery completely, shortens its life span.
Lithium-ion batteries actually prefer partial charge/discharges not complete discharges as this damages the battery as I stated above. Also, you should never run the LED light for long periods of time as that can cause damage to the LED and possibly the phone. Any improvement you may perceive from your practices IS likely due to the fact that the meter may have required a few charge cycles to become more accurate. However, complete charge cycles do not require the battery to be completely discharged.
Again this is not meant to offend you but I feel it's important to not give inaccurate info as incorrect information can potentially cause damage to someones phone in the long term.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.apple.com/batteries/
ari-nj said:
I downloaded juice defender today... Been off the charger since about 5am and it's now 8:15pm. I have over 40% battery left! I also just got my verizon navigation dashboard mount, had the phone plugged in for a little while, but overall I think that if I keep this up, I should be in pretty good shape.
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While I did see a nominal increase in battery life with Juice Defender, what drove me nuts was the time it took data to "wake up" after unlocking the phone. Eventually, I turned Juice Defender off.
And, like others, the first few days with my Maxx had 2 instances where I awoke to a dead battery. Now, 2 weeks later, charging and discharging is slow and predictable. About 2.5 hours from 5% to fully charged and a couple days of use between charges. No issues to speak of.
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I am wondering whether the charging methods make a difference to battery life?
How do you charge your battery, and also your initial charge from new?
This is the first phone I've had that I didn't leave the initial charge on all night 16 hours initial as recommended by most phone manufacturers, and I just took it off after a few hours when it was charged up. Do you think that affects the performance of the battery? I've never charged it for more than a few hours. The main reason I don't leave it on all night is because it gets really hot, so when it goes green light, it's done for me
Do any of you let it run out past the amber warning colour as a completely flat battery is probably better to charge?
All my other phones were left on charge all night, every night, but they weren't this type of phone.... and in truth, it makes no difference whatsoever to the battery. The Motos also needed charging every day
Stunning work guys, 56 views by people I can only assume own the Hero, and nobody wants to divulge their dirty secrets about battery charging... Thanks anyway
Just look around google for Li-ion recharging, there is plenty of resources to read up on when trying to keep battery life at a maximum.
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Stunning work guys, 56 views by people I can only assume own the Hero, and nobody wants to divulge their dirty secrets about battery charging... Thanks anyway
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probably because the hero is so new that nobody can tell anything about the battery life? and i don't suppose any of the 56 people has two heros and did the experiment of charging one full and the other for 16 hours, only to use them in the same manner afterwards and count battery life... ?
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probably because the hero is so new that nobody can tell anything about the battery life? and i don't suppose any of the 56 people has two heros and did the experiment of charging one full and the other for 16 hours, only to use them in the same manner afterwards and count battery life... ?
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Yeh, that wasn't actually my point, but thanks anyway!
112 now...
I was wondering how many people just got the phone, and charged it 16 hours initially or couple of hours and go, and do they leave on all night despite it getting hot.
Not hard...
You should charge it until it is fully charged but not leave it on charge extensively - excess heat may cause the battery life to reduce (although I wouldn't know how much degradation this would cause). It is probably ok every once in a while to leave it on charge overnight, in theory the phone should have circuits to protect against overcharging it anyway. 2 hours is about right for a charge cycle. You should charge it when the phone advises to do so - 15% or less charge. The Lithium Ion battery will only recharge cycle effectively a minimum of 300 times but I would estimate conservatively that is the number of times you can recharge. 2 days between recharges would give you about 2 years life out of a battery. I recharge it every two days, and charge time is about 2 hours.
Yeh, I have to charge it every day though......... Never lasts longer. I just wondered if you were supposed to do the initial first charge overnight and whether it sets the standard for the length of time you get each day after that?
i guess every hero is different. longest i used my phone without charging is 2 days with moderate use.
before i charge my phone i kill all tasks in the background and clear my browser history. might not make a difference but to me it feels better to have a fresh phone after charge.
Is that with the task killer app, or is there another way?
I can't imagine mine ever lasting 2 days.....
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Is that with the task killer app, or is there another way?
I can't imagine mine ever lasting 2 days.....
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I'm using TaskPanel as a taskiller...
when i got the hero the battery was ~half full. i charged it for about half an hour, but had to stop the charging before it was full.
the battery doesn't last longer than one day, although i play a lot with it (obviously). when i put it to the charger i try to let it charge fully up, and i noticed that the charging is stopped when the battery is full (you see the icon in the not.bar go back to normal green battery, and the phone cools down noticably after charging is completed). concerning this i have no problem to leave it plugged in overnight. checked last night, when NOT plugged in it takes 4% of battery for ~7 hours in airplane mode.
Hello, recently I read an article which explained on the topic "Battery Life"
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/upgr...s-laptop-batteries-last-longer-192456763.html
I was shocked when it said, "Every time you charge your battery, the total capacity of the battery is diminished. Originally it may have had a run time of 3.5 hours, but after a year it'll run out of juice at 3 hours, even on a full charge."
So here's the question, does leaving your phone charging throughout the night causes the battery to be diminished faster? Or will it have no effect and stays to 100% and take it as 1 full charge.
danialrocker said:
Hello, recently I read an article which explained on the topic "Battery Life"
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/upgr...s-laptop-batteries-last-longer-192456763.html
I was shocked when it said, "Every time you charge your battery, the total capacity of the battery is diminished. Originally it may have had a run time of 3.5 hours, but after a year it'll run out of juice at 3 hours, even on a full charge."
So here's the question, does leaving your phone charging throughout the night causes the battery to be diminished faster? Or will it have no effect and stays to 100% and take it as 1 full charge.
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My friend have been doing overnight charging for a year and had no adverse effects.
Huge BS article. Not worth typing more via the phone.
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Hi all
So im lovin this RAZR MAXX but I would like to ask a question about the battery.
So I unplugged it at 7am this morning used the internet a little bit a total of 20 minutes voice calls and about one hour of telenav GPS and the battery is at 60%. Does that sound normal? Sounds kind of quick no?
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It takes a few cycles to get max battery life, but are you on 4G and how bright is your screen?
The thing that killed your battery was the hour of GPS usage... But remember, 60 percent of a Razr Maxx battery is still more the a fully charged OG Razr. My advice, stop worrying about the battery and just enjoy the phone. You've got the best factory battery life that money can buy.
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1 hour of GPS usage actually isn't that bad on the RAZR, I use that regularly and it barely makes a dent. Screen brightness and 4G however will drain it.
Likely has to do with it being a new battery. It really needs a couple of cycles (running it down below 5% and then recharge to 100%) for the phone to estimate the size of your battery. Android actually cuts off charge to the battery at a certain level to protect the battery, so if it thinks you have a smaller battery, it'll shut off earlier.
Basically.. just keep using your phone normally for a few days and your battery should improve.
Had better to turn off the GPS and wifi function to extend your battery life.
Good day people, I have a dumb question and no need to be polite I know its dumb lol I just got an evo lte and I love it so far. But I did some reading up on training batteries and I'm aware that you can't necessarily train a lithium ion battery but I know there things that you can do help the battery last longer etc.
The first day I did my normal routine, drain it all the way charge it all the way. It took a long time for the battery to die which seemed like it was a good thing. I did that twice and I noticed that after a full charge the battery drops to 97% fairly quickly (like withinless than a min or 2) and from the few days I've had it it seems like it may not hold the charge well over time . I wouldn't normally be concerned about this however this is the first phone I've owned without a removable battery, I don't want to regret it 6 months from now because the phone only lasts 5 hours.
So my question is this I am still within the buyers remorse period should I just exchange it for another onevor am I just being too paranoid? Secondly how do you all train your batteries when you first get the phone? What works for you all who own this phone?
Thanks in advance.
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Good day people, I have a dumb question and no need to be polite I know its dumb lol I just got an evo lte and I love it so far. But I did some reading up on training batteries and I'm aware that you can't necessarily train a lithium ion battery but I know there things that you can do help the battery last longer etc.
The first day I did my normal routine, drain it all the way charge it all the way. It took a long time for the battery to die which seemed like it was a good thing. I did that twice and I noticed that after a full charge the battery drops to 97% fairly quickly (like withinless than a min or 2) and from the few days I've had it it seems like it may not hold the charge well over time . I wouldn't normally be concerned about this however this is the first phone I've owned without a removable battery, I don't want to regret it 6 months from now because the phone only lasts 5 hours.
So my question is this I am still within the buyers remorse period should I just exchange it for another onevor am I just being too paranoid? Secondly how do you all train your batteries when you first get the phone? What works for you all who own this phone?
Thanks in advance.
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First off, congrats on your choice. This phone has a Li-Ion Polymer battery, which is different from the Li-Ion batteries of yore. I am stock rooted and with medium to heavy use I get a day<12+ hours> out of a full charge with no batt training. I have not experienced the rapid discharge you speak of and if you have no apps causing it, you may need to swap it.
I also get a pretty rapid discharge from 100%->98% - takes about 5 minutes to drop that 2 percent. But after that, I am clear sailing for ~15 hours.
Oh so the rapid discharge thing isn't uncommon then? Hmm
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Oh so the rapid discharge thing isn't uncommon then? Hmm
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I don't know if it's the same as the og evo and the 3d but when it hit 100% try unplugging it then plug it back in for a few. That may give you the true full charge and stop the quick 2% drop
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Yea I'm kind of torn on exchanging it. I may just do it. Of course it would be my luck to get a phone with issues if I did.
That's normal. If this is like the OG Evo (and it probably is), the phone will charge to 100%, then let the battery discharge to 95% before charging back to 100% again. This is primarily to protect the battery and prolong its life. So while the phone may claim to be at 100%, it could be as low as 95% when you unplug from the charger. The rapid discharge you're experiencing is really just the phone adjusting to the actual battery level.
Also, there's no need to "train" the battery. I seem to recall that it's generally not healthy to discharge a Li-Po battery to 0%, and can shorten the life of the battery.
The battery percentage drop you guys are seeing is perfectly normal. No need to exchange your phone. As soon as the kernel source is released by HTC, then the great devs here will be able to bless our phones with some SBC goodness and you will not have that problem anymore
You guys don't think I did any noticeable damage by fully discharching it twice do you? I'm going to charge it and see what happens I don't have any immediate thoughts of exchanging it based off of what you guys are saying. I'm going to charge it up and post results. If its not like what you guys are getting life wise I may exchange it as I still have like 5 days left.
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tmotechsupport said:
You guys don't think I did any noticeable damage by fully discharching it twice do you? I'm going to charge it and see what happens I don't have any immediate thoughts of exchanging it based off of what you guys are saying. I'm going to charge it up and post results. If its not like what you guys are getting life wise I may exchange it as I still have like 5 days left.
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No, it's fine.
Fully discharging it just reduces the number of cycles left you have. Most li-ion batteries have 1000 charge cycles. Battery charge is not an exact science. Do not look at it like you are not getting the full charge.
So at the end of the day it looks like roughly 8 to 9 hours of moderate to heavy use on my phone moderate for the first 7 hours heavy for the last 2 and some change. Does that sound about right?
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I get around 15 or 20 hrs also cm9 I get 24+
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I was told many years ago to fully drain and then fully charge a rechargeable battery or else it would shorten its life span. Is this really true?
Currently, if my battery is at 30% when I go to bed I leave it alone and charge it the next morning when I get to work after it drops to 5% or less and just deal with not having my phone for a few hours during the work day. I would love to charge my phone each night and always have my phone usable throughout the day.
My concern is that if I charge my battery each nigh I will kill the battery before I can get a new phone.
What us the truth?!
There's a lot of confusion on proper battery charging techniques. Lots of people are stuck on the old ways of thinking, where you should let the battery completely die before recharging it or else the battery will get a "memory" and won't last as long. I won't pretend to be an expert on the topic, so hopefully someone else can chime in, but from my understanding you do NOT want to let newer style batteries die before recharging them as it shortens their lifespan.
That used to be true, but doesn't apply to the batteries used in phones today. You can recharge whenever you'd like, but you may need to 'calibrate' your phone from time to time to properly recognize an entire battery cycle.
Recently, my Droid Razr Maxx drained completely, and will no longer take a charge; very frustrating considering it's less than 2 months old! That's the problem with a non-removable battery. Very expensive paperweight.
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Found this....the science of modern batteries. Lets hope it works for our DNA's.
http://lifehacker.com/5875162/how-often-should-i-charge-my-gadgets-battery-to-prolong-its-lifespan
that article applies to our battery chemistry. Personally i still use my phone as a beside clock and keep it charged overnight and discharge it to whatever % it's at at the end of the day.