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Like many of you i consider the note the best thing since fire but thats not to say that it cannot get better
heres mh list of things that are a must for the next note
-same eraser technology like on the note tablet
-pen must be able to interact with capacitive buttons...if there are any by then
-finally when hand writing just use pen input... i have it when my finger accidently toches the screen
let me know what u guys want also and heck maybe samsung might read it also...please do jajajajaj
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QWERTY keyboard
I can dream.
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Bigger Screen! Same size device but maybe do away with the touch capacitive buttons and a Quad core
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Same physical size, screen all the way
Quad core lte of course
3000 mah battery
That will do
Larger battery. Even though it had the best life of any phone I have used, it could still be better, and I'm sure there's plenty of extra room to squeeze out a few more mAh. Make it built in if they need to, I could care less about being able to remove it, if it lasts me through a day with heavy usage. I imagine they could fit a monster in the frame of the Note seeing that Motorola crammed 3300 in the maxx.
Full 1080p Super AMOLED+. No pentile, even though it doesn't really bug me all that much on this high def screen, I can still notice a bit.
Carbon fiber unibody frame. Highly unlikely, but if I could have my way with the Samsung R&D team...strong, sexy, and super light.
Quad core Exynos for ****s n gigs. Not really necessary with the current state of most apps and Android in general, but it would make gaming unbelievable. Imagine if they started making games like Battlefield 3 compatible with phones, so that all you need is an HDTV and a Bluetooth controller to play games anywhere. Imagine how that would kill console gaming. Hell, I would drop 60 bucks on the app to be able to bring my gaming to any house I go to, as well as my saved games.
Varying levels of internal storage. If I could have bought a 32 or 64 gig note before a micro sd, I would for sure pounce on that. That would allow some serious game storage without needing an extra card.
Mini hdmi port. Mhl ports work, but in my experience they're mediocre at best. This goes along with my mobile gaming dream.
Wireless charging built in. The powermat was a cool idea, but the fact that you needed to use their stupid case sucked. I would love to plop my phone on my nightstand at night and know it will be charging.
12 MP camera maybe? Idk, the current camera doesn't need much improvement beyond better image processing, faster shutter speed, and better optics. 5 MP front facing with a flash on front.
Make it the Nexus Note. And release that beast as the first Jellybean phone.
Along with that stuff, all of the stuff you listed with the pen. Plus the pen could be sturdier, maybe aluminum? Haha.
I know what I have described would be very expensive, but even if they just made it as a premium model, I would bite hard on it, and probably shell out 500 for it subsidized.
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Doesn't matter, padfone is coming out.
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A Notification LED
2 gig ram quadcore, better gpu and a better screen, for spen recognition
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-bigger battery
-A Tegra 4 Wayne (they release later this year)
-higher res screen. Awesome screen now but I can still see the pixels.
-better s-pen. Now there's lots of bugs
-MOST IMPORTANT THING. Advanced LTE support for whenever they roll it out.
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Better S-Pen integration
Jellybean of course
3D option
Slide out QWERTY keyboard
LED Notification
16 MP back camera, 8 MP front with flash
Quad Core Tegra/Exynos
Micro HDMI
2 GB of RAM
3500 mAH battery
LTE with T-Mobile band support
I think I have just created the perfect phone.
Evidently a new stock keyboard, judging by the OP.
Just kidding!!
[But seriously, get swiftkey, you'll love it]
And I'm serious about the new keyboard - the autocorrection on the default keyboard is annoying at best.
Quad-core, dual channel memory would certainly round it out. And I wouldn't mind going up to 5.5 or even 6 inch screen.
Built in bluetooth earpiece would be great but I don't foresee much of a demand for such a thing - people like choice in that sort of device.
FFF (front facing flash)
Built in kickstand, something simple like evo had, simple but did the trick for skyping.
6" screen
Better spen functionality
Thin her out
Increase battery life
mini hdmi out
NFC that works
But if I were to have but only one feature, I'd make it a nexus straight from google phone so I dont have to deal with all the ATT bloat and feet dragging and BS big updates about bird games.
While i like the initial thoughts of an edge to edge screen, I do like to have an area to grip the phone, so I'd leave it as is with the bezel area.
As for slide out KB, I used to swear by them because of large hands. Went through a couple G1s then MyTouch Slide but eventually I gave it and never looked back.
Kromatrix said:
3D option
Slide out QWERTY keyboard
LED Notification
16 MP back camera, 8 MP front with flash
I think I have just created the perfect phone.
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No you did not....
Im sorry people i understand LED notifiers but i really just think they're unnecessary.
3D? QWERTY? No thank You. I don't need more bloatware and i had the thrill and never used 3D. Besides it would change the quality of our screen.
16 Megapixel back, 8 Megapixel front camera?! Do you know what you're saying? No person needs a 16 Megapixel camera on their phone. Do you know what editing a 16 mp pic in photoshop looks like? Do you know how big of a picture that is? And although the front can be improved it wouldn't need to be 8 mp. What the camera need is better quality (which does not mean higher mp), and the shutter speed needs to match that of an iphone 4s. (which i hope can be improved with a software update)
And the one thing everyone here missed as far as i saw is more memory. 10gb after the os? Psssshhhshshshshshshhhshshshshshhshshshs
And i hate having to buy high transfer speed sd cards
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...And i hate having to buy high transfer speed sd cards
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Careful, its crazy talk like this that will derail a thread into class vs cache debates.
RadDudeTommy said:
No you did not....
Im sorry people i understand LED notifiers but i really just think they're unnecessary.
3D? QWERTY? No thank You. I don't need more bloatware and i had the thrill and never used 3D. Besides it would change the quality of our screen.
16 Megapixel back, 8 Megapixel front camera?! Do you know what you're saying? No person needs a 16 Megapixel camera on their phone. Do you know what editing a 16 mp pic in photoshop looks like? Do you know how big of a picture that is? And although the front can be improved it wouldn't need to be 8 mp. What the camera need is better quality (which does not mean higher mp), and the shutter speed needs to match that of an iphone 4s. (which i hope can be improved with a software update)
And the one thing everyone here missed as far as i saw is more memory. 10gb after the os? Psssshhhshshshshshshhhshshshshshhshshshs
And i hate having to buy high transfer speed sd cards
Blah
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I thought this was a wish list, not a bash others' wish lists thread.
RadDudeTommy said:
No you did not....
Im sorry people i understand LED notifiers but i really just think they're unnecessary.
3D? QWERTY? No thank You. I don't need more bloatware and i had the thrill and never used 3D. Besides it would change the quality of our screen.
16 Megapixel back, 8 Megapixel front camera?! Do you know what you're saying? No person needs a 16 Megapixel camera on their phone. Do you know what editing a 16 mp pic in photoshop looks like? Do you know how big of a picture that is? And although the front can be improved it wouldn't need to be 8 mp. What the camera need is better quality (which does not mean higher mp), and the shutter speed needs to match that of an iphone 4s. (which i hope can be improved with a software update)
And the one thing everyone here missed as far as i saw is more memory. 10gb after the os? Psssshhhshshshshshshhhshshshshshhshshshs
And i hate having to buy high transfer speed sd cards
Blah
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I'm sorry my post offended you, but I don't mind reading your opinion. Why do you have to bash mine so badly? I was just making a joke wishlist...
The ability to use a second sd card as ram.
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Top of my list would be a more precise/responsive touch screen, both for finger and pen. Maybe it's an android issue, but I can't stand the. 5sec/.5cm of delay while trying to scroll in the browser. I don't think my iPhone 4s exhibited this. For tthose that have tried out ICS on n7000, is this lag still there or noticeable?
As far as the s-pen goes... c'mon, it's 2012, why does the pen input still feel the same as it did my my HP pocketpc?!?! I'd expect to be drawing/writing on the screen with 0 to non-perceptable lag by now. (In part due to android's non-GPU accelerated GUI?)
More juice please! The new.ipad can cram 12000mah into the battery, can we maybe just have 1/3 of that?? That's a 60% increase, combine with more energy efficient hardware, I won't have to carry extra batteries with me anymore.
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Better battery life.
Less width with the same screen size
=>less bezel width.
Quad-core Exynos processors
Jelly bean OS
FM radio as in the international version
Power button on top
64GB internal memory
Ceramic case
More native apps for S-pen
Universal programmable remote control app
Faster camera
Lower price!
One common global model supporting all carriers => faster development support!
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I'm sorry my post offended you, but I don't mind reading your opinion. Why do you have to bash mine so badly? I was just making a joke wishlist...
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I was having a bad day man, Im sorry. I really didn't mean to take it out on you.
But anyway. For further information about the Megapixel Myth here is a good article
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html?pagewanted=all
Oh and another thing the GN2 should have is faster charging of the battery!
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Ok I tried to cram the relevent information into the title, so people with the right advice might be able to help me out!
I am curently on an original iPad, that i have had for a couple years now. Now that xmas is coming up, I have been considering finally getting an upgrade, as this seems an oppurtune time!!
I mainly use my ipad for two things, reading on the kindle app, and drawing picture using a vector graphics program called iDraw (though I also have used sketchbook pro and artrage, etc, but lately vector graphics have been better for me).
I rarely (if ever) play games on the tablet (I have a wide array of consoles for gaming), and I watch movies on my laptop most of the time, although being able to output hi-def movies onto the big-screen tv would be handy on occasion.
I have looked into an android app called "infinite design" which seems to be exactly what I would need as far as drawing goes, so that fills the "artistry" niche for the time being. And it seems I can ignore the kindle apps (which I know both tablets have access to).
So I am stuck deciding between these two rather nice tablets. My personal pro's and con's being:
-iPad build quality and reliablity has already been proven, the nexus ... I've heard some faults like light leakage, which would be an absolute deal breaker considering what I use it for. Are the nexus faults an exception more than the rule?
-Android has much more interesting things to play with. I especially liked the idea of the "floating" apps, like LilypadHD and the app that allows a video to run in the foreground while you are using the webbrowser or similar ("Stick it!"? i think it was called). However, can the nexus 10 run these floating apps alongside other programs without causing lag issues and crashing?
-which reminds me that I also heard of some software crashes/freezes/reboots on nexus10s, although I have had a few of those on the iPad as well so this isnt a dealbreaker, as long as it gets fixed with firmware...
So yeh, any help or advice would be good guys just to let you know, I jailbroke the iPad as soon as I bought it before, and will likely jailbreak the new one if I get it, so this could be taken into consideration. Although if necessary I could also root the nexus, if there is an advantage to it. I have a galaxy s2 phone, but I never saw the need to root it (i did jailbreak my old iphone though).
ps. another thought, any advantage to having both an android phone and tablet? eg. connectivity etc? just occured to me it might help swing the decision, who knows!
Thanks anyway, to anyone who actually read all this
In regards to the art usage: the iPad 4's screen has better color reproduction (95% sRGB color gamut and 65% Adobe RGB gamut according to Anandtech).
Also as far as I know the Note 10.1's digitiser supports pressure sensitivity, which might be a bonus for you, so that might be worthy of consideration as well. However there is a stylus for the iPad which 'enables' pressure sensitivity by sending pressure data to specially optimised apps (Sketchbook included) through bluetooth, though I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Edit: The stylus is the Jot Touch.
okay like already mentioned:
i think the best for you would be the note 10.1, it has exactly the things which you need it to do. The stylus is perfect for artists as the feeling is almost like a real pen/brush etc.. btw it has wacom technology included (with the stylus) if u know what that is, then u know how superior that is to stylis mimicing pens on the ipad and other devices.
Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
The only advantage is the pressure sensitivity, but as I mostly work using vectors I don't really need this. I currently use a box wave stylus on my iPad, and will use similar in future I'm sure.
It seems the note will become obsolete quicker than the nexus, if only because I expect the nexus will continue getting support for longer. I might be wrong. Is a note 10.1-2 coming out?
I wasn't aware the ipad4 screen gave the best colour accuracy, that's pretty important to know thanks. Lots to think about
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Ok I tried to cram the relevent information into the title, so people with the right advice might be able to help me out!
I am curently on an original iPad, that i have had for a couple years now. Now that xmas is coming up, I have been considering finally getting an upgrade, as this seems an oppurtune time!!
I mainly use my ipad for two things, reading on the kindle app, and drawing picture using a vector graphics program called iDraw (though I also have used sketchbook pro and artrage, etc, but lately vector graphics have been better for me).
I rarely (if ever) play games on the tablet (I have a wide array of consoles for gaming), and I watch movies on my laptop most of the time, although being able to output hi-def movies onto the big-screen tv would be handy on occasion.
I have looked into an android app called "infinite design" which seems to be exactly what I would need as far as drawing goes, so that fills the "artistry" niche for the time being. And it seems I can ignore the kindle apps (which I know both tablets have access to).
So I am stuck deciding between these two rather nice tablets. My personal pro's and con's being:
-iPad build quality and reliablity has already been proven, the nexus ... I've heard some faults like light leakage, which would be an absolute deal breaker considering what I use it for. Are the nexus faults an exception more than the rule?
-Android has much more interesting things to play with. I especially liked the idea of the "floating" apps, like LilypadHD and the app that allows a video to run in the foreground while you are using the webbrowser or similar ("Stick it!"? i think it was called). However, can the nexus 10 run these floating apps alongside other programs without causing lag issues and crashing?
-which reminds me that I also heard of some software crashes/freezes/reboots on nexus10s, although I have had a few of those on the iPad as well so this isnt a dealbreaker, as long as it gets fixed with firmware...
So yeh, any help or advice would be good guys just to let you know, I jailbroke the iPad as soon as I bought it before, and will likely jailbreak the new one if I get it, so this could be taken into consideration. Although if necessary I could also root the nexus, if there is an advantage to it. I have a galaxy s2 phone, but I never saw the need to root it (i did jailbreak my old iphone though).
ps. another thought, any advantage to having both an android phone and tablet? eg. connectivity etc? just occured to me it might help swing the decision, who knows!
Thanks anyway, to anyone who actually read all this
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simple and straight forward advise, NOTE 10.1! dont even think of getting iPad 4 or Nexus 10! because NO, NO tablet on the Market can compete Note 10.1 in terms of sensitivity of S Pen!
(and btw, i own note 10.1 and Nexus 10)
bee55 said:
In regards to the art usage: the iPad 4's screen has better color reproduction (95% sRGB color gamut and 65% Adobe RGB gamut according to Anandtech).
Also as far as I know the Note 10.1's digitiser supports pressure sensitivity, which might be a bonus for you, so that might be worthy of consideration as well. However there is a stylus for the iPad which 'enables' pressure sensitivity by sending pressure data to specially optimised apps (Sketchbook included) through bluetooth, though I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Edit: The stylus is the Jot Touch.
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iPad3 and 4 use a Samsung display so no need to hype it. The Samsung Nexus 10 display is the same quality or better and higher resolution.
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nirurin said:
Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
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Don't underestimate the Note 10.1. It's powerful and while the screen is lower resolution I prefer the colors, black level, white, uniformity, etc. over the Nexus 10. I own both.
Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
nirurin said:
Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
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The Note 10.1 on stock JB is plenty fast. It's the only tablet on the market with an inductive (vs. capacitive) display which is crucial to drawing. It's got a Wacom digitizer with 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. It also has an optional drawing pen with an eraser built in to it. The display on the Note is quite good in terms of brightness, contrast and color reproduction. The only thing lacking is PPI. Two advantages of the lower-res display are app compatibility (do you know the drawing programs you want to use even work on the N10?) and far better battery life. And some of that "bloatware" is quite useful like multiview, S-Note, AllShare Play and Cast, and Color Picker which lets you pick a pen color from a photo and Pen Chooser which lets you toggle between different pens you've set without opening settings each time. You're the first person I've seen who needs a pen to dis the Note. For someone who could care less about the pen and the Note's additional features the N10 is a better value.
There are tons of artists using the Note. Here's a thread you might find interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
BarryH_GEG said:
The Note 10.1 on stock JB is plenty fast. It's the only tablet on the market with an inductive (vs. capacitive) display which is crucial to drawing. It's got a Wacom digitizer with 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. It also has an optional drawing pen with an eraser built in to it. The display on the Note is quite good in terms of brightness, contrast and color reproduction. The only thing lacking is PPI. Two advantages of the lower-res display are app compatibility (do you know the drawing programs you want to use even work on the N10?) and far better battery life. And some of that "bloatware" is quite useful like multiview, S-Note, AllShare Play and Cast, and Color Picker which lets you pick a pen color from a photo and Pen Chooser which lets you toggle between different pens you've set without opening settings each time. You're the first person I've seen who needs a pen to dis the Note. For someone who could care less about the pen and the Note's additional features the N10 is a better value.
There are tons of artists using the Note. Here's a thread you might find interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
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Ok in hindsight, I may have been quick to write-off the note10, at the time of posting I was on a break at work and rather tired haha. One of the reasons I was thinking of avoiding the note was its age... I thought it had been released long enough ago that it would be soon due an update. However, I just checked... and it only came out mid-august... so I think I must have been thinking of the note phones.
Even though I currently do not use pressure sensitivity at all... this doesn't mean it wouldnt be a good idea for me to start incorporating it, I dont want to get stuck in my ways or anything!!
In which case, does the note10 have the power and ability to multi-task floating apps (chat and/or videos) while running drawing programs? If so... I may have to look into places that are doing deals on the note. As of my last look, it was selling for the same price as the nexus10, which is why I thought the nexus was the better "bang for the buck"...
The reason I'm looking at new powerful devices is because I want this to be future-proofed against anything I might need it for for the next couple of years (the same amount of time my trusty ipad1 lasted me). I figured I was safe with the nexus, because of the custom ROMS that would be made for it, with it being the main tablet release of the season.
edit: turns out that, while both the basic Note and the basic Nexus are retailing at £319, I am possibly able to get the note for £279... which means a decent case and any cable accessories are essentially "free"... Which is a big plus.
I need to find some information on the quality of the screen, as it is relatively very low resolution compared to the competition.. barely more than my original iPad1 in fact?
edit 2: unfortunatly, I can only get it in white for that price lol. Shame.
edit 3: hmm... Seems I can also get a white note 10.1 for £253, as long as I also buy a case with it (which I always intended to anyway)... so this seems a bargain as long as they sell a decent case... the white ones must look horrible though, if its the only ones anyone is selling off cheap!!
If you can wait a good half year I'm sure a 2560*1600 Note will come out, hopefully around 12", which would be the perfect buy, but personally I just can't wait to get my hands on the Nexus 10. If drawing is important, go for the Note, there's no real alternative.
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If you can wait a good half year I'm sure a 2560*1600 Note will come out, hopefully around 12", which would be the perfect buy, but personally I just can't wait to get my hands on the Nexus 10. If drawing is important, go for the Note, there's no real alternative.
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This is true, though money is also a factor, and I have now found a "grey" (least its not bright white, though I may have to check it out in store sometime) note 10.1 for £268. Which isn't bad.
Its just whether I would rather spend £50 more, and get nexus. A screen thats got twice the resolution, and a significantly faster processor, would mean being safely future proofed. I'll have to decide just how much the pressure-sensitivity is worth to me..
As someone else mentioning in above, if drawing with pen is important factor for you, I believe neither Nexus 10 or iPad 4 may be the best answer. I am not familiar with drawing but Vector drawing may not require high accuracy/pen-paper feeling, if so I believe Nexus 10 or iPad 4 be great as they have phenomenal screen resolution to display your art.
Otherwise, two options:
1. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
It has inductive pen technology i.e. you can get the feeling of pen and paper. Downside is screen resolution. Though coming from original iPad, you will unlikely to notice the screen resolution difference. So it may be ok. Otherwise, very stable and speedy device.
2. Samsung Ativ Smart PC
This is Windows 8 Atom processor based tablet. It comes with Wacom stylus, runs real windows 8 i.e. you should be able to run most of windows native software, and if you like you can buy optional keyboard to make it to like real laptop. The downside with this is price - expensive even considering 64GB internal storage. Windows 8 is great for legacy program, but tablet wise still lacking application. Screen resolution is essentially same as Galaxy Note 10.1 i.e. not the level of Nexus 10 or iPad 4.
HoushaSen said:
As someone else mentioning in above, if drawing with pen is important factor for you, I believe neither Nexus 10 or iPad 4 may be the best answer. I am not familiar with drawing but Vector drawing may not require high accuracy/pen-paper feeling, if so I believe Nexus 10 or iPad 4 be great as they have phenomenal screen resolution to display your art.
Otherwise, two options:
1. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
It has inductive pen technology i.e. you can get the feeling of pen and paper. Downside is screen resolution. Though coming from original iPad, you will unlikely to notice the screen resolution difference. So it may be ok. Otherwise, very stable and speedy device.
2. Samsung Ativ Smart PC
This is Windows 8 Atom processor based tablet. It comes with Wacom stylus, runs real windows 8 i.e. you should be able to run most of windows native software, and if you like you can buy optional keyboard to make it to like real laptop. The downside with this is price - expensive even considering 64GB internal storage. Windows 8 is great for legacy program, but tablet wise still lacking application. Screen resolution is essentially same as Galaxy Note 10.1 i.e. not the level of Nexus 10 or iPad 4.
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Thanks for the idea, but the Ativ is way too expensive, pretty much 3x the cost of the Note. I am but a poor boy, from a poor family... (insert head banging music here)...
I use vectors because it makes it easier to resize and edit work afterwords (compared to bitmap images). The reason the pen doesnt matter for the iPad, is because you can use a "Pen" tool, essentially dragging and dropping and editing lines, without directly drawing them. This is accurate, though a little time consuming, though because of the constant zooming in-and-out that you need to do for fine detail work it works out for the best.
Having the S-Pen is not a selling point to me exactly... but if it works well, and I learn to use it, it can only improve my overall work... and that would make it worth the money in itself.
One issue with capacitive screens was the accuracy, as even stylus' need to be around fingertip-size in order to register. If the S-Pen is much more "pointy" (i will need to investigate this) then it would immediately be helpful... much less zooming in and out to get accurate lines...
nirurin said:
Thanks for the idea, but the Ativ is way too expensive, pretty much 3x the cost of the Note. I am but a poor boy, from a poor family... (insert head banging music here)...
I use vectors because it makes it easier to resize and edit work afterwords (compared to bitmap images). The reason the pen doesnt matter for the iPad, is because you can use a "Pen" tool, essentially dragging and dropping and editing lines, without directly drawing them. This is accurate, though a little time consuming, though because of the constant zooming in-and-out that you need to do for fine detail work it works out for the best.
Having the S-Pen is not a selling point to me exactly... but if it works well, and I learn to use it, it can only improve my overall work... and that would make it worth the money in itself.
One issue with capacitive screens was the accuracy, as even stylus' need to be around fingertip-size in order to register. If the S-Pen is much more "pointy" (i will need to investigate this) then it would immediately be helpful... much less zooming in and out to get accurate lines...
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3x price is Ativ Smart Pro. I am talking about Ativ PC, which is Atom processor not i5. It is 649 without keyboard dock. Cons against Pro is inferior CPU/GPU, no Full HD screen, 2GB memory instead of 4GB. However, it has its benefit which are long battery life, relatively light weight.
But if you don't need Spen/Wacom, I think you can't go wrong with either Nexus 10 or iPad 4. It's really depends on what ecosystem you like. If you really have very specific task/goal you like to achieve, and it already works well on iOS platform, I say stick with it as it saves you money if you already own apps for it.
Personally, I needed more flexibility than iOS so went to Android. Now I saw even more flexibility option available i.e. real windows, so I jumped on it.
HoushaSen said:
3x price is Ativ Smart Pro. I am talking about Ativ PC, which is Atom processor not i5. It is 649 without keyboard dock. Cons against Pro is inferior CPU/GPU, no Full HD screen, 2GB memory instead of 4GB. However, it has its benefit which are long battery life, relatively light weight.
But if you don't need Spen/Wacom, I think you can't go wrong with either Nexus 10 or iPad 4. It's really depends on what ecosystem you like. If you really have very specific task/goal you like to achieve, and it already works well on iOS platform, I say stick with it as it saves you money if you already own apps for it.
Personally, I needed more flexibility than iOS so went to Android. Now I saw even more flexibility option available i.e. real windows, so I jumped on it.
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Well £649 is still more than double the Note10.1 price (I can get it for £268 at the moment), and I already have a very nice laptop for the high-end stuff
I bought the iPAd back when I had an iphone3GS. Now though, I have a GalaxyS2... so it almost seems fitting to try out an android tablet. And the multi-windows support and dual-view on the Note looks much more interesting than the same-old iOS stuff that I'm already used to. Even jailbroken, theres only so much you can do with an iPad (I should know, ive done it already!)
As long as the android tablets arent inherantly broken in some way (I keep hearing about issues with light leakages and stuff on the nexus, but might just be from a bad batch), I am more tempted by the android side of things. There might be less apps at the moment, but it will catch up soon enough, and the ability to play around with widgets etc makes it seem more interesting as a day-to-day tool.
True, I will be losing out on... maybe £20-£30 of apps from the apple store. But some of those were bought months ago, and in the scheme of things its not much of a big deal. If I ever go back to an iPad 5 or 6 in the future, they will still be there for me (I assume).
edit: didnt finish my point. If the androids are both well built ect, it seems I will go for one of them. And because of the price, the multi-view, and the potential benefit of the SPen, the Note is currently edging ahead slightly.
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Well £649 is still more than double the Note10.1 price (I can get it for £268 at the moment), and I already have a very nice laptop for the high-end stuff
I bought the iPAd back when I had an iphone3GS. Now though, I have a GalaxyS2... so it almost seems fitting to try out an android tablet. And the multi-windows support and dual-view on the Note looks much more interesting than the same-old iOS stuff that I'm already used to. Even jailbroken, theres only so much you can do with an iPad (I should know, ive done it already!)
As long as the android tablets arent inherantly broken in some way (I keep hearing about issues with light leakages and stuff on the nexus, but might just be from a bad batch), I am more tempted by the android side of things. There might be less apps at the moment, but it will catch up soon enough, and the ability to play around with widgets etc makes it seem more interesting as a day-to-day tool.
True, I will be losing out on... maybe £20-£30 of apps from the apple store. But some of those were bought months ago, and in the scheme of things its not much of a big deal. If I ever go back to an iPad 5 or 6 in the future, they will still be there for me (I assume).
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Well sounds like your mind is set to Android ecosystem, which is great. I personally love it. Multiwindow support of Galaxy Note 10.1 is great concept but just to warn you. It is not true multitasking i.e. if you think about doing your Vector thing, or even play game and browse, that won't work. Simply because Multitasking on Note 10.1 is limited to selected applications which are browser, S-note, Video, email etc. But not every apps. But considering hardware limitation and 10.1 inch screen, I think it's reasonable to have selected app to be supported. Personally, the biggest sales point of Note 10.1 was its stability, speed, and S-pen.
If you need true multitasking, you need Windows Tablet, but if you are from iPad I am certain it is not your top priority. By the way, I don't know Euro. But Ativ Smart PC 64GB sells $649 here in US and Galaxy Note 10.1 32GB sells for $499 thus total price difference is US$150. Again whether the cost difference is worth or not depends on your use.
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iPad3 and 4 use a Samsung display so no need to hype it. The Samsung Nexus 10 display is the same quality or better and higher resolution.
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Don't underestimate the Note 10.1. It's powerful and while the screen is lower resolution I prefer the colors, black level, white, uniformity, etc. over the Nexus 10. I own both.
Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
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As I'm sure you are aware, we weren't talking about who manufactured the displays, but rather about their quality. If you take your time to watch or read any review which compares the iPad 4's display to the N10's one, you will see that the iPad's color reproduction is visibly better. Now also while RAM might matter in the comparison of Android devices, the iPad runs a quite different OS and I'm pretty sure the 'only' 1GB RAM wouldn't be a bottleneck for these apps; it would probably be memory bandwidth and CPU power.
This said I have just placed my order on a Nexus 10 and I strongly prefer Android to iOS, yet I have to admit that the iPad has it's strengths as well (I've actually been considering getting an iPad 4 instead of the N10 because of the superior app selection, but as I love my SGS3 and Android itself I've decided to get the N10 and just hope that more tablet apps will start to appear for Android).
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Well sounds like your mind is set to Android ecosystem, which is great. I personally love it. Multiwindow support of Galaxy Note 10.1 is great concept but just to warn you. It is not true multitasking i.e. if you think about doing your Vector thing, or even play game and browse, that won't work. Simply because Multitasking on Note 10.1 is limited to selected applications which are browser, S-note, Video, email etc. But not every apps. But considering hardware limitation and 10.1 inch screen, I think it's reasonable to have selected app to be supported. Personally, the biggest sales point of Note 10.1 was its stability, speed, and S-pen.
If you need true multitasking, you need Windows Tablet, but if you are from iPad I am certain it is not your top priority. By the way, I don't know Euro. But Ativ Smart PC 64GB sells $649 here in US and Galaxy Note 10.1 32GB sells for $499 thus total price difference is US$150. Again whether the cost difference is worth or not depends on your use.
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The cheapest I can find in the UK (on google anyway), ignoring eBay, is over £600. Not sure why this would be.
There is a thread on the Note forum where someone has made it possible to add the multi-window support to a lot of other apps by altering their .apk, in a fairly easy process. Probably wont work with every app, but still. Anyway, while I'm drawing the most I would want is a chat app running, and I believe LilypadHD does that as a floating app anyway? (though this works on the Nexus as well, no need for a Note for it.)
I dont plan to be playing games much anyway, if at all.
It seems the note has a fair few nice apps that samsung has put on it, and the pen itself of course. The only reason im still umming and ahhing is the Nexus; sexy high def screen and powerhouse of a processor.
Although if I'm not going to use it to its potential (eg gaming, i guess) then maybe its a waste.
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The cheapest I can find in the UK (on google anyway), ignoring eBay, is over £600. Not sure why this would be.
There is a thread on the Note forum where someone has made it possible to add the multi-window support to a lot of other apps by altering their .apk, in a fairly easy process. Probably wont work with every app, but still. Anyway, while I'm drawing the most I would want is a chat app running, and I believe LilypadHD does that as a floating app anyway? (though this works on the Nexus as well, no need for a Note for it.)
I dont plan to be playing games much anyway, if at all.
It seems the note has a fair few nice apps that samsung has put on it, and the pen itself of course. The only reason im still umming and ahhing is the Nexus; sexy high def screen and powerhouse of a processor.
Although if I'm not going to use it to its potential (eg gaming, i guess) then maybe its a waste.
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Wow $600 for Ativ Smart PC is definitely a lot... Wonder if the price is raised from retail due to short supply. In any event, Note 10.1 is phenomenal device. Nexus 10 is great device as well and I seriously put a thought onto it before. It is great but at the same time unfortunate that in this era of tablet, there are so many options yet no system is perfect/completely superior to others. Nexus 10 IS unfortunately not my choice (note it is present tense as may change in the future) because of lack of microSD, keyboard dock, and Wacom digitizer. I had to return Note 10.1 only because of lack of screen resolution, which I did not notice if I went straight from iPad 2 to Note 10.1. But I had Infinity in between so Full HD resolution was just too hard to give it up.
If you don't play game, the time you will notice the difference in resolution is reading text e.g. kindle, browser etc. The text is just so much more crisp. You just really need to list the features that you want, and the purpose of the tablet you are using for. Because you will unavoidably have to make a comprise to one or two features. In my case with Ativ Smart PC, I am compromising screen resolution, and some tablet optimized application availability. I'm looking forward to Surface Pro, but even with it I am compromising battery life, and weight.... Good luck on your search.
Note 10.1 please don't east your time with the others they don't have a digitizer surface for wacom pressure sensative pens.
And the Res does not matter because you will zoom in and out. I own a wacom tablet and it nothing like my nexus 10 for sketching.
The only pen option you have for I pad and nexus is the go smart stylus has a spring ed tip
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Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
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Hello guys,
I have a nexus 10 and like it, but for painting/drawing, imo it is crap compared to an ipad.
Try signing your name as quickly as you normally would. You will hardly be able to recognise your handwriting. The nexus 10 samples the stylus position way too infrequently, and the "tweening" that takes place, drastically smooths out the direction of your stylus strokes.
Ive tried Sketchpad, Infinite Paint, Gnotes, other painting tools, and they all suffer the same problem.
My SGS3 is a LOT better as is my wife's i****e 4s.
David Hockey created huge wall murals for his amazing exhibition at the Royal Academy of Art this year. They were done on an ipad... so at the moment, I would say iPad is superior for painting. Nexus 10 is crap and I have no experience of the tweening problem on the Note 10.1.
Mark.
...and it should have an 8" 4:3 size for $200-250.
Why? It's the sweet spot of usability, combined with the sweet spot in consumer pricing ($200'ish).
iPad Mini (12 million est for this Q4) is reported to have higher demand than iPad 4, despite its low-res display and relative high price to the KFHD and N7.
For small tablets and of course phones, portrait mode is preferred. The mode lends itself better to one-handed use than landscape. When in this mode, the main spec that determine "tablet size" is display width, ie the larger the width, the more content you can see at a glance.
7" 16:10 tablets have a display width of 3.7". You can see how "small" they are by trying to read web pages in portrait.
iPad Mini's display width is 4.7", a full inch larger. It achieves this while maintaining a smaller physical width than KFHD (5.3" vs 5.4"), and being lighter than both KFHD and N7 (308g vs 394g and 340g, respectively). Mini also has better reported battery life than KFHD & N7 (12:43 per Engadget).
The Mini is almost as "large" as the N10. N10's display width is 5.3", only 0.6" more than Mini. However, it is much larger (less portable), heavier, and can't be used one-handed. It also has shorter battery life, and is more expensive.
Widescreen fans will no doubt disagree, and vids are certainly better on 16:10. But there's no argument that for one-handed use, portrait mode is best. iPad Mini is more portable than the 10" and have almost the same usability, being only 0.6" "smaller."
Instead of chasing after the "best" specs as N10 did, with resultant hits in lower battery life and higher price, I'd also submit that the Nexus 8 should have "good enough" specs, ie 1024x768 screen (what Mini has), and a Tegra 3 or equivalent. This should allow the $200-250 price range suggested above for 2013.
Why? Because for market share--how devs make their calculations on whether to develop for a platform--a $200 tablet counts the same as a $400 tablet. And it's a lot easier to sell more $200 tabs than $400 ones.
Edit: Yes, there are already Chinese 8" 4:3 tabs that are around the $120-150/qty1 range. But their quality is poor, battery life low, and of course no direct Google support. The suggested $200 price should be very doable, and also allow Goog/vendor a decent profit.
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I actually would love a 12" tablet. screens smaller than 10" im not interested.
For someone who has just ordered their N10 I like reading these kind of threads.
I look forward to my N10 and think we will get enough use out of it to justify the purchase, so much so I think the next purchase would be a N7 for more portability. That being said, I like the widescreen look for "most" things but will see myself going portrait for webpages and a few games I suppose. I am getting the N10 for the whole family where I think the N7 is maybe a little more personal.
Either way viewing spec's are over my head but thanks for the info and opinion. An 8" would be interesting indeed.
I would love an 8.9 in tablet. A ton..
I think I'm at the point where I like using my Nexus 10 as my "portable" tablet and I'd be interested in having some kind of 15" or 17" coffee table tablet for sofa / bed use. I really don't need anything in between my Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 for size and if I did, my wife's Nexus 7 is definitely fine.
But, if Google wants to release an entire family, go for it.
Nexus 4 - phone
Nexus 5 - phablet
Nexus 6 - phablet
Nexus 7 - mini tablet
Nexus 8 - mini tablet
Nexus 9 - tablet
Nexus 10 - tablet
Nexus 12 - ultra tablet
Nexus 14 - ultra tablet
Nexus 16 - coffee table tablet
Nexus 20 - just. because.
I like the 7" due to its size the iPad mini might have a better display but it isn't as horrible that said you might as well buy a iPad 2 with the same specs and price. I want to see a N7 with a 1080P display which is achievable since 5" phones have them. It should have a dual a15 and 2 gb ram. A bigger battery and slimmer profile then the iPad mini it should also be made out of aluminium. It should only have a front facing camera and it should use the latest components with wireless charging. It should be also manufactured by google instead of Asus I do not like the fact that google uses hardware manufacturers to make a nexus device because it is then no longer pure android with LG or samsung written on the back rather it would feel like a google device with google written. O would rather have a product overpriced like the iPad mini that works then to buy a bargain that doesn't work like the N7 and its cheap components.
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I like the 7" due to its size the iPad mini might have a better display but it isn't as horrible that said you might as well buy a iPad 2 with the same specs and price. I want to see a N7 with a 1080P display which is achievable since 5" phones have them. It should have a dual a15 and 2 gb ram. A bigger battery and slimmer profile then the iPad mini it should also be made out of aluminium. It should only have a front facing camera and it should use the latest components with wireless charging. It should be also manufactured by google instead of Asus I do not like the fact that google uses hardware manufacturers to make a nexus device because it is then no longer pure android with LG or samsung written on the back rather it would feel like a google device with google written. O would rather have a product overpriced like the iPad mini that works then to buy a bargain that doesn't work like the N7 and its cheap components.
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You're suggesting Google begin hardware manufacturing without any background or experience in the area? They'd have to start from scratch, which is completely impractical. They have heavy involvement in the design of Nexus devices, but there's no reason they should do the actual manufacturing. Not even Apple does their own building.
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You're suggesting Google begin hardware manufacturing without any background or experience in the area? They'd have to start from scratch, which is completely impractical. They have heavy involvement in the design of Nexus devices, but there's no reason they should do the actual manufacturing. Not even Apple does their own building.
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i would imagine that would be where their purchase of motorola would come in handy...
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Nexus 20 - just. because.
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lmao
No 4 by 3 crap. A 4:3 8 inch tablet would be too wide in portrait to your hands around comfortably.
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No 4 by 3 crap. A 4:3 8 inch tablet would be too wide in portrait to your hands around comfortably.
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this. 4:3 died with the crt television
I think you've misunderstood why the IPad mini sells so well. It's Apple. Pretty much everything they release these days sells like crazy
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Nexus 20 - just. because.
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I'd buy it
2 years on and it looks like it is almost here, well a Nexus 9 at least. I'd rather an 8.1" with no bezel because of a specific use case, but the 9 looks like a nice option. Oh, and 16:10 - 4:3 is now long gone.
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I actually would love a 12" tablet. screens smaller than 10" im not interested.
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This. Zero interest in a sub-10 inch tablet. This is the sweet spot for me size wise.
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Okay, okay, I know we have only seen rumors so far on the note 3. But for the first time, a new phone release is right down the pipeline, and I just don't see what is going to make me upgrade. Mind you, this is coming from a phone junkie who in the last year has had the following devices(galaxy nexus, iphone 4s, galaxy s3, iphone 5, note 2).
I was just curious, what does Samsung actually have to do with the note 3 to make you give up the note 2.
For me it will be a better screen. As much as I love my Note2, it SUCKS shweddy balls trying to see the screen in sunlight. Also, I'd like to see what they're doing with the camera/sensor. I no longer lug my dedicated camera around when I go around town because the photos from the Note2 are very nice, but can be improved upon. I've heard it will have 3GB of Ram....so that's another plus.
-IR sensor
-dedicated camera button
-better screen that is visible under bright lighting
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-IR sensor
-dedicated camera button
-better screen that is visible under bright lighting
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YES! Dedicated Camera Button! I do miss that from my Motorola Days!
very true. IR, screen and camera would be nice. If those features are make or break for you then I totally understand the upgrade. It just seems to me that for the 200+ upgrade cost those features would be such a minor upgrade.
Not to mention there most likely won't be a Zerolemon battery for a little while.
If the new camera had some impressive low light capabilities, and maybe some nice front facing speakers on top of the features you both mentioned I might be able to justify it.
It just needs to come out for me to buy it.
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The main thing will be NOT getting shafted by Verizon again.
I want nfc and wireless charging.
Also, a screen that is easier to read in sunlight would be very nice (say what you will about PenTile displays, it is just plain beautiful how well they work in direct sunlight).
I don't want it to be over 6". At 5.5", the Note2 is already about as large as I can comfortably (and safely) carry while on the go. I might go for a 5.7" device, but 6" might actually be too much.
Other than that, I think the Note2 is about as close to perfect as a phone can get. Additional sensors would be cool though, bring us ever closer to a tricorder.
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The main thing will be NOT getting shafted by Verizon again.
Right, but knowing Verizon and its track record...they're going to cram it full of bloat and disable stuff
I want nfc and wireless charging.
NFC is present in the Note2 but Wireless Charging would be awesome. I had the HTC DNA for a few days and loved just laying my phone on the charging pad...had one in the kitchen and one at my desk.
I don't want it to be over 6". At 5.5", the Note2 is already about as large as I can comfortably (and safely) carry while on the go. I might go for a 5.7" device, but 6" might actually be too much.
Maybe the Phone dimensions will stay close to what they are now....a thinner bezel could help and ramp the screen size up while the phone won't get much larger. I think it may get a tad longer but not wider.
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The camera button would be nice, but what would be REALLY awesome is if I could USE THE F&%$ING STYLUS ON THE DAMNED BUTTONS!
Sorry... that drives me insane lol
The unbreakable screen that was rumored a while back would be nice as well
Morkai Almandragon said:
The camera button would be nice, but what would be REALLY awesome is if I could USE THE F&%$ING STYLUS ON THE DAMNED BUTTONS!
Sorry... that drives me insane lol
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That slipped my mind completely! Although using gmd spen gestures has made it convenient enough for me to perform those functions without using those buttons
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Why front facing speakers isnt standard on all phones; ill never know.
better build quality; i hate that my phone squeaks when i touch it.
s-note being much faster to load stuff.
moe bass.
6" screen; come ON. i wa sso depressed when all the rumors point to a 5.7"...=(
It depends on which of the three screen sizes Verizon is getting and how it is linked to the quality of the device. I would prefer a larger screen then I have now with 1080P. Wireless charging is preferred but I do not expect it. A custom ROM will take care of the bloatware.
1080p, brighter display, optical zoom and image stabilization, bigger battery, bigger screen, IR, front facing speakers, QI, back notification LED, projector.
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All the above and a f m radio.
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Morkai Almandragon said:
The camera button would be nice, but what would be REALLY awesome is if I could USE THE F&%$ING STYLUS ON THE DAMNED BUTTONS!
Sorry... that drives me insane lol
The unbreakable screen that was rumored a while back would be nice as well
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I believe you can do that with the Note 8.0, so I'd be beyond shocked if the Note 3 doesn't include that functionality.
For me, the major thing that would make me want to upgrade is big improvements on the camera front.
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1080p, brighter display, optical zoom and image stabilization, bigger battery, bigger screen, IR, front facing speakers, QI, back notification LED, projector.
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Aren't some of those things a bit of a stretch? Like the projector perhaps?
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Aren't some of those things a bit of a stretch? Like the projector perhaps?
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I doubt most of that will be included, but it's all been in phones before besides optical zoom. 3x optical zoom has been rumored for this device.
as far as the pico projector check out the Samsung Galaxy beam!
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A release date.
1. Be able to jump past Verizon's inevitable BS
2. USB DAC support for Fiio E17 (already works in Android 4.2+ anyways)
3. Wolfson audio chip
4. a.) Exynos based SoC (so none of the fragmented developer support where international versions get most of the love)
b.) Snapdragon-based SoC wouldn't have Wolfson audio, either.
5. 1080p RGB-striped display
6. Will somebody besides CM team integrate the "empty app-mounted directories" fix into the ROMs?
We were lucky with the Note 2. The hardware is the same as the international variants. RGB-striped display and Wolfson audio. Android 4.1.2 doesn't have the completely broke app-mounted directories issue so I can run CIFS. We have the lowest possible unlock thanks to Adam and others.
The Fiio E17 doesn't natively work without the USB Audio Recorder Pro app, but that isn't as big of a deal since the Note II already has the Wolfson DAC.
Camera is huge. If it's better I may bite. The N2 camera is good but man it could be much better.
I think as far as hardware is concerned, the Tab S3 is fairly decent but when it comes to Android, I'm not so sure.
Speaking honestly and realistically, is the Tab S3 an equally good professional (well-rounded) tablet as an iPad Pro or is the Apple product a more polished solution? (Because lets face it, Apple has dominated the tablet market and continues to make improvements in that space to point where I personally feel that their products offer a very polished user experience, to the point of possibly being good enough to replace a notebook)
I had the 9.7 iPad pro for a while. The main thing I didn't like was that there was no resistance between the pencil and the screen. It was just too slippery to feel "right" as a note taker, which is one of my primary uses of a tablet. The S-Pen feels better with the rubber tip giving a little drag. I also didn't like the lack of a file manager,but that looks to be coming in iOS 11. I don't have the keyboard case for my S3 yet, so I can't comment on that. As always, there are a couple apps I can't get on Android, but others I can now that I'm on Android. I like the physical feel of the S3 better, but that's very subjective. I haven't done much with using Flow with my phone yet, that seems interesting also.
Thank for that feedback.
I'm still in two minds about whether I should spring for a Tab S3 or go for the iPad Pro 9.7 which is the same price.
Yes, I'm also interested in Samsung Flow. Specifically how well it works and whether it works with non-Samsung phones.
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Thank for that feedback.
I'm still in two minds about whether I should spring for a Tab S3 or go for the iPad Pro 9.7 which is the same price.
Yes, I'm also interested in Samsung Flow. Specifically how well it works and whether it works with non-Samsung phones.
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I have an Ipad Pro 9.7 and 10.5 and love them. Decided to get the Galaxy Tab S3 just to play with it at work and see how it compares to the iPad. Let's just say it feels like coming from a Ferrari and getting into a Yugo (no offense to Yugo lovers, i'm sure it gets great gas mileage). The galaxy Tab feels sooo slowww compared to the Apple Tablets. If you're looking for speed and ease of use i'd say get the Ipad. I doubt you'll be disappointed. The Galaxy feels so slow switching profiles and starting apps that i don't even use it beside for some gaming since I can play my many clash camps on one tablet ... Now ipad Pro 10.5, there's the winner here for screen responsiveness... but price still too high... but it's the best notebook replacement... no lag whatsoever... a speed daemon...
It can be very difficult to compare two tabs of different OS. At the end of the day, it is a question whether what you are more comfortable with? If you don't mind a closed ecosystem, then iOS would be suitable, but if you like more customization and want an open ecosystem, then Android would be the one.
Also, you have quite a few sites online elaborating the Tab S3 vs iPad Pro thing.
https://www.stuff.tv/features/samsung-galaxy-tab-s3-vs-apple-ipad-pro-97-which-best
The battery life might not be as good, and the speed isn't as fast as the iPad pro, but I also couldn't justify spending $649 for the tablet, $100 for the pen and another $150 for the keyboard. I got my Tab s3 for $449 and got the keyboard case for $65. The battery life gets me through the day. The most screen on time I've gotten is 9 hours, which is good enough for me. It might be slower than the iPad pro, but it's not a snail.
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Workflow dependent. Both are good, neither is a laptop replacement.
I haven't noticed a major difference in speed, Samsung screen is nicer. I also prefer the Samsung keyboard. IOS is improving at a great clip.
I had the og iPad Pro 9.7 and sold it within a week. Probably better hardware but I didn't like iOS or the rechargeable pen at all.
The BIGGEST issue for me: the wat the iPad Pro handles split screen. The S3 splits left/right in horizontal and top/bottom in portrait. The iPad also splits left/right when held horizontal but if holding it portrait, it also splits the screen left/right - which is pretty much useless. I could go for either of these tablets if I only needed to multitask when holding the tablet horizontally, but if I ever wated to multitask holding the tablet upright, the S3 is the only way to go.
Not sure why Apple hasn't fixed this. When I prepare for a class, I can hold the tablet horizontally (read on one side, write on the other) or upright (read on top, write on bottom). The Apple left/right split when holding it upright requires scrolling to continue to write (I use typical 8.5x11 dimensions in the event I want to print my hand written notes.
Also prefer a pen that doesn't cost $100 extra that has to be charged from the bottom of the iPad (risking snapping it off if I mishandle it).
If Apple would fix at least the way they split screen, I would consider buying one and overlook the pen issue.
I eventually bought both the iPad 10.5 and the S3 but ended up using the S3 more frequently. The 120Hz True tone display on the iPad is great but the AMOLED display on the S3 is still an absolute pleasure to use with vibrant and crisp image quality. They each have their strengths but you can't really go wrong with the S3.
The 4 speaker setup on the S3 sounds very good and I like that the surround audio is adjusted depending on the orientation of the tablet but the audio quality isn't quite as good as the iPad Pro 10.5 which has a slightly deeper sound with better bass.
I like that I can make calls and send SMS's as well as use WhatsApp on the S3. You can't do that with an iPad!
And the pen is great! I'm not an artist but just navigating the interface with the pen is a good experience as is the fact that the pen doesn't need to be charged like the Apple pencil.
Performance is decent as well. I haven't experienced any major lag and everything that I do with the tablet is fast and fluid, though I do run maintenance cleanups and reboot once in a while and I don't install a lot of unnecessary apps.
I get about a 1-2 days of battery life with around 9h SOT depending on how much I use the tablet and what I'm using it for. Obviously media and gaming consumes more battery while web surfing, email and document editing is fairly light on battery.