will devs get us flash on ics? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im psyched about ics for the phone, but if it means I'm gonna lose flash and not be able to run most websites anymore, I think im gonna have to skip the update all together.. will development be able to give us flash back in ics?
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I'm running one of the Leaked Samsung ICS builds, Flash works fine.

flash is available for ics. besides that it's completely outdated and html 5 is enough.

Right now flash works on ICS but basically if something major changes and Google or Adobe don't work to support flash then the devs can't do anything.
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Flash works. It may be outdated, but as of now still many websites rely on it. Not to mention the pain-in-the-ass "this video is not optimized for mobile viewing", which can only be avoided through flash (loading the desktop youtube site).

rauschkugl said:
flash is available for ics. besides that it's completely outdated and html 5 is enough.
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html5 may be better, but its not supported anywhere yet, rather I should say 'everywhere yet'. tons of websites, and especially any with videos all require flash to he usable, and i can't give that up.. my phone is my desktop away from home, it needs to be fully functional..
but if you guys are saying ics will work, I'm glad to hear it.. i was just on engadget and they implied it wouldn't.
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soraxd said:
html5 may be better, but its not supported anywhere yet, rather I should say 'everywhere yet'. tons of websites, and especially any with videos all require flash to he usable, and i can't give that up.. my phone is my desktop away from home, it needs to be fully functional..
but if you guys are saying ics will work, I'm glad to hear it.. i was just on engadget and they implied it wouldn't.
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The official stance is that it's not supported, but I believe Google said that would change. Either way, not being supported and not working are 2 very different things. I remember being told that my Nokia N95 only supported SD cards up to 8GB. That didn't stop the 16GB one working though
Incidentally, you'd be surprised how many videos you see online that are actually HTML5 and no longer Flash. It's not as supported as Flash yet, but it's definitely making its mark!

Adobe has stopped supporting Flash on mobile devices but as some of the previous posters mentioned, it doesn't mean it won't work. I wouldn't worry about it. There are also options of installing third party browsers such as Dolphin HD that would include flash, if by chance the ICS browser doesn't. However, I am sure it will. I remember reading that flash player will still come with android stock browsers whether ICS or not if I remember correctly

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[Q] Does flash work?

Hey I was wondering if there's an app or web browser that supports Adobe Flash? For instance when I go to the World of Warcraft website a lot of things on thati site says it requires flash 9. So yeah I was just wondering if there's a way to get it working. Thanks in advance.
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First of all, this should probably go in Q & A. Second, The vibrant running Android 2.1 has flash lite which is compatible with most things up to flash 8. When 2.2 froyo goodness arrives eventually we will be able to download flash 10.1 to our devices and get rid of this lite crap. Good things come to those who wait.
Skyfire supports flash.
speoples20 said:
Skyfire supports flash.
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yeah, but "supports flash" and websites requiring higher versions of flash actually working are two different things. It'll support flash...when you have it.
I just watched a movie on killingtime.com I guess android flash light was good enough.
j0hnZ said:
I just watched a movie on killingtime.com I guess android flash light was good enough.
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That link is to a Murder Mystery Party Planning website.
"Planning a party can really be murder.
With Killing Time, murder consultants, that’s a good thing!"
But I am assuming the site you are referring to either has an .flv player using flash 8 or if you are using skyfire it converts the video to something it can stream instead of flash. It says so while its "Optimizing" it could save you 75% bandwidth over flash.
Yeah Skyfire is a good ersatz option, though it doesnt seem to work on crunchyroll, it does on x hamster which gets the job done, ahem. I did discover that it only works if the stock browser is installed so it must rely on its webkit? Idk. Id like to hear what someone more knowledgable thinks. No ff rew controls but til 2.2 it'll have to do.
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mmm...froyo can't wait
wildklymr said:
That link is to a Murder Mystery Party Planning website.
"Planning a party can really be murder.
With Killing Time, murder consultants, that’s a good thing!"
But I am assuming the site you are referring to either has an .flv player using flash 8 or if you are using skyfire it converts the video to something it can stream instead of flash. It says so while its "Optimizing" it could save you 75% bandwidth over flash.
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http://www.killsometime.com/
Here's the point, whether it converts the video or not it performs the function the OP wants. To be able to watch the video's that are in the flash format. I'm not going to argue semantics with you, you obviously just want to be right at something.
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FThe vibrant running Android 2.1 has flash lite which is compatible with most things up to flash 8.
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Up to flash 9.XX I believe, the warcraft website is for those "funny" people....err is a exception in this case I believe

Without Flash the Prime is just poor...

What is it worth a tablet that cannot play video or flash stuff browsing/reading news or else?
I am so disappointed and regretting to have made this upgrade, trusting some people who claimed to have a
workaround for Flash Player.
The next thing is hoping that a method for locked device but rooted is found to downgrade, cause I was more satisfied then than now.
It was not enough to have others issues with the Prime, rebooting, freezing, BlueTooth and bad WiFi signal.. now we do not even have Flash working.
Well if a workaround that works is not found, I think I will try desperate to downgrade and stay on ICS.
bimbobo said:
What is it worth a tablet that cannot play video or flash stuff browsing/reading news or else?
I am so disappointed and regretting to have made this upgrade, trusting some people who claimed to have a
workaround for Flash Player.
The next thing is hoping that a method for locked device but rooted is found to downgrade, cause I was more satisfied then than now.
It was not enough to have others issues with the Prime, rebooting, freezing, BlueTooth and bad WiFi signal.. now we do not even have Flash working.
Well if a workaround that works is not found, I think I will try desperate to downgrade and stay on ICS.
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Did downloading the apk and installing it not work for you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336
All you have to do. Is sideload flash.apk and stock browser. apk and it will work fine. Flash works flawless on my Nexus 7. Refer to Nexus 7 forums for details. There's a thread in there with the flash.apk and browser.apk for you to download and install. Very simple and easy to do. Just follow directions OP gives you. But believe me, plenty of xda users JB devices are using flash just fine.
I sideloaded Flash and it works fine. I use Boat Browser + Flash + JB without any problems.
Additionally, more websites are using HTML5 video instead of flash. And if you just bought the tablet for flash, you're really not getting the point of a tablet. Tablets and smartphones are more app based rather than browser based.
I still have flash on the stock browser after updating to JB.
Worse case..try one of these methods I posted in another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908606
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Worse case..try one of these methods I posted in another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908606
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Thanks guys it works now... evev if it's damned pretty slow when sites have flash content, even slower than before..
st33med said:
Additionally, more websites are using HTML5 video instead of flash. And if you just bought the tablet for flash, you're really not getting the point of a tablet. Tablets and smartphones are more app based rather than browser based.
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To some people.
Others don't like having 1000 applications for every website out there (youtube, gmail, xda, etc.) when you can use browser for that.
Flash is walking the green mile
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Flash is still there, it won't show up in your apps but it's still there.... at least on my device it is. I have no problems playing flash content and it's faster than before..... if you got to settings, apps, all, you'll see it's still there. Also Adobe will continue to push updates to Adobe® Flash via Google Play to those devices that had Adobe® Flash previous to the Jelly Bean update.
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I never thought I'd say this, but I don't really miss Flash at all in day to day browsing now. Most sites that I use don't use it hugely, or have converted to HTML5, and for video I mainly use YouTube anyway so the built in app works fine.
I have been using Chrome since it was first released, and have only gone back to the stock browser for flash once or twice in the last few months. So for me, I haven't lost anything, and probably wouldn't notice for a while if I did. The main thing I notice is that flash-based ads don't appear, and I consider that a feature.
Here are the facts of life RE mobile flash
bimbobo said:
What is it worth a tablet that cannot play video or flash stuff browsing/reading news or else?
I am so disappointed and regretting to have made this upgrade, trusting some people who claimed to have a
workaround for Flash Player.
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The fact is that all Android tablets from here out will be in the same boat. So this doesn't make the Prime "poor" unless you want to say all Android tablets made from now on are "poor". Then, don't forget that the iPad has never supported flash. Therefore if you follow your reasoning to it's logical conclusion, then the iPad is "poor" too. So where does that leave you? Well, you won't be using a tablet or phone for web browsing. Not any tablet or phone. The work arounds will keep it going a bit longer, but it is dead.
This is another useless thread. Its really upsetting, especially now the op got flash working and the whole point of the thread is irrelevant. Update your first post and title OP!
I dont find the thread upsetting or useless at all. I think its a good informative thread for any users that do want flash .
st33med said:
Additionally, more websites are using HTML5 video instead of flash. And if you just bought the tablet for flash, you're really not getting the point of a tablet. Tablets and smartphones are more app based rather than browser based.
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ARM tablets maybe, but x86/x64 Wintel tablets don't have that problem at all.
ohwell said:
I dont find the thread upsetting or useless at all. I think its a good informative thread for any users that do want flash .
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Seriously? There's 1000 other threads about flash on jb and how to get it. if you or the op would have taken the time to use the search function that would have saved us from this useless thread.
i just restored flash player using titanium backup. flashing the hell out of it using us jb

[Q] Motorola ATRIX 4g mb860 at&t would like Snapseed but not compatible

Hello people, I am unrooted and have enjoyed my ATRIX 4g even though I have been stuck with the final ginger bread ota release at&t gave us and have waited patiently for the promised ota ICS upgrade which they now posted we will not get, I am aware that there is a Leak Test ICS that is buggy, and have been mods made or provided over here by your awesome developers bringing our devices up to JB level even, but am a fan of the functioning camera and finger print biometrics personally. I am a noob as far as Android rooting but very tech savvy and with devices and software in general, every app I have wanted to use has been great on this phone regardless of what version it was made for until today... I am quite into photo editing and have a ton of photo edit apps and engage in IG a bit, we as the underdogs over at IG were always fighting to make our tweaks and edits look as good as an Iphone edit mainly because they had an app called Snapseed, I was very pleased. When I read google had purchased this app drom NIK software a month ago and today it was finally released for Android, I went to Google Play and it for the first time ever said this app is not compatible with your device, it needs 4.0 or above in other words ICS, now my main question here is if I did root flash a mod similar to ICS or the unstable leak version will Google play still just see the signature of my phone and not allow a download or if I was running a new os would it get around that issue, I did also write the developer but doubt they are too concerned about making the app backward compatible as Google also purchased Motorola and offer a mere $100.00 towards upgrading to a different moto phone and I love this ine and do not have the money at the noment to do so.. any advice would be greatly appteciated, as to a a suitable os and whether or not it would even allow us Atrix 4g users to download Snapseed if our phone is recognized by its name and autodetection by googlr play tegardlrss of os, I mean it's a fast phone I've had no problems, everything works, dual core, good ram, speed stirage etc.. thanks Stu
Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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thesummoner101 said:
Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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Thanks very much sir, I will now have to look into this EPinter's CM10 and learn the whole process and hopefully not brick my phone, I'm good with directions, does the CM10 have a working camera and fingerprint scanner, and can I save my whole phone image if it all went south? I also paid for PicSayPro and many others too, love graphic arts and photography so the cam although only 5mp is important at times.
Anyway thanks very much yet again for the info.
No problem. Yes, you should make a nandroid backup once you have a custom recovery. It is one of the recommended steps followed by an exclamation mark. =P The only thing lacking on EPinter's CM10 is video camera (related to missing HWA due to improper kernel source) Regular camera works fine for still shots. I use camera fx & camera 360, both work without any issues. And No, the fingerprint scanner doesn't work since it's not a part of CM source.
There is an unofficial, "official" ICS (ICSROM & ATRICS) that has proper HWA with video camera and fingerprint scanner but the battery life is terrible and the phone gets really hot. I personally had random restarts every few minutes.EPinter's CM10 does well as a daily driver, but if you're going to go through the trouble, might as well try all the roms available! =D
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Thanks very much for this info, I will research these downloads, I watched a youtube vid of cm10 and looked good, seems the Atrix is a bit more of a pain to work with than other Androids but will look into the whole process of unlocking and fastboots and the nanandroid back up etc.
Greatly appreciate the help.
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Yes, the Atrix is a pain compared others, but once rooted with a custom recovery (IMHO RomRacer's custom CWM 5.0.2.7 is the best, never had issues) it's just like any other device. Heck, I remember flashing 3-4 ROMs a day, it was insane! =P
I would recommend downloading Titanium Backup from the market as well. It will help you quickly backup your most used apps w/ data/settings and reinstall them after installing a new ROM. Good luck and have fun.
P.S. Thanks for Snapseed!
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Can someone explain the N4 conversion?

So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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jimi_pooh said:
Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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jimi_pooh said:
Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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That's what did the trick for me when I came back. Good luck
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I tend to go back and forth doing the N4 conversion and back to At&t stock. I get this fail to encryption screen,some times after I LGNPST back to stock. Pressing the "reset phone" repeatedly never does anything for me. What i've been doing is when this happens is, I'll shut the phone down and press the Vol down and HOLD first and then hold the power button. It will bring you to some kind of factory recovery where it says "HARD RESET MODE" Just press the power button to confirm the reset and it essentially just wipes the phone and brings it back to stock.
Hope that helps!
Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
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Yes there are a couple of people working on aosp ROMs right now just give them a little more time
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I know some people are against the conversion as such, but I think in the long run, this will be the only benefit of this phone - I'm expecting LG to do its thing where they don't provide any updates once their newer phones come out.
And here comes the nexus4 conversion - we'll be able to advance our phones thanks to the actual updates for nexus4 that google and the community will provide. Probably we'll lose LTE at some point when the modems will no longer be compatible with newer android versions.
My previous phone, the captivate was in a similar scenario - slightly different from the international galaxy s, but the devs worked out a set of patches to be applied against the galaxy s roms to make them work on the captivate and the captivate has long lived since, becoming one of first phones to get cm10.1 nightlies and enjoying more than a few 4.2.1 roms. It's definitely slowing down, it's been more than 2 and half years since the phone launched and people have moved on to newer devices.
So if it wasn't for the nexus4 conversion, I wouldn't have jumped on the lgog for my upgrade - the phone shipped with ICS, might get a 4.1 update eventually, but I don't expect LG to follow up with further stock updates after 4.1.
I know there is speak of AOSP roms coming to the LGOG, and I'm really thankful for the all the devs who work bringing these, and hoping we'll even see official cm10.1/cm11 then probably we won't need the conversion at all, but if it doesn't happen, or devs give up on the lgog the conversion will be the only path to newest android.
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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This phone is already essentially a N4. We are working on methods of porting the nexus 4 kernel to our phone that do not require any modifications, so we will always be able to run anything the n4 can run anyway. Basically, there will be a longer wait because this is harder to do, but it will be better in the long run, as we fully understand what is going on.
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
There is now a fix for jelly bean rons after converting back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146816
[FIX][Re-stock after N4][E970] Camera Fix for JB !!!ALPHA!!!
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whiteguypl said:
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
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Of course both would need kernel changes to make everything work 100%. Either way, someone would need to fix things. Fixing the kernel to boot with full stock may take more work, but I would consider something that does not require modifying the non "normal" partitions of the phone to make work better than something that modifies the base bootloader of the phone.
whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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You're so right about the veil of secrecy!
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While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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Who cares what team codefire thinks just keep doing what you are doing and thanks for everything can't wait to try something out. If you need more/any tester just let me know I have best buy insurance so not worried about bricking.
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sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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I'd like to just chime in and say 1) one person said you'd be an effin moron and he is far from the whole of team codefire. His words and actions don't represent the team as a whole, and his words were uncalled for. He could have said things in a nicer way. 2) The cm-10.1 you have relies on a testing version of freegee that was developed, but since abadonded. The reason it was abadonded was quickly we discovered that it bricked sprint radios. We had 4 people, including myself, loose radio. Thus this new freegee method was dropped.
We are instead working with 3.4 lge kernel source. I've also narrowed down what I believe the issue is on mako kernel not booting stock, to be the lge power management vs caf/mako power management. We'd probably have lge 3.4 working by now, but all of us, sk8 included jumped on using mako kernel once it was discovered about this slightly different freegee method. However like I said, after we bricked 4 radios on sprint, we didn't expand the testing any further and stopped.

[Q] Thinking about buying: Questions about this device

Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
whitetiger_0603 said:
Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
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Well, while there's not an "official" JB update yet, there are a few unofficial ones that are working quite well, as well as CM/AOSP in the making. You can also just convert it to a nexus (basically) if you'd like, so I'd say go for it personally. However I'll probably get flamed for even answering you because you should really search since there are probably about a million threads just like this. Just food for thought...
NEVER buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future...
The Optimus G will probably get JB in the future - but there is a slight chance it won't. And who knows when, could be months.
If you don't mind rooting and tinkering, there are a few ports that mostly (but not completely or perfectly) run JB now.
If that works for you, then there you go.
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If you need or really want JB, and don't feel like rooting, wait a few months for the next crop of super phones. By the time this gets official JB support, the next batch will already be here with faster processors, etc. However, if you do like to mod and root and tinker, as was mentioned, there are some developers working on AOSP and CM10.1. Hopefully that will be out by the end of this month, but we don't ask for or get ETA's around here...etiquette, and stuff.
Once that door opens, I would imagine the ROM's and custom development will take-off.
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I guess I should have worded my question differently. I should have said, has it gotten the update, rather than does it get it. But from the way it sounds, it has not. I like rooting and tinkering. But I really just want a stock JB phone to work with and tinker from there. I appreciate the answers though. Thanks.
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Neroga said:
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
Sn8kbordin said:
Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
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Everything's working fine on my end too. The only other problem i've heard is of some people not having their 32g or 64g external card show up while others have. I just flashed it last night, granted it's still early to know for sure without testing a few more days but I'm really enjoying it and things are flawless right now.

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