Am i the only one not liking the fact that android phones are getting bigger and bigger( sure slimmer), what happened to the compact aspect , after all it is a PHONE .i personally think that there should be more MID-HIGH-end 3.5-4.1" screen phones coming in the future.
especially when the Vibrant is reaching its limits running android's latest and greatest.
i just wanted to know what everyone else thinks about this.
I really like 4", but could live with 4.3" it resolution kept up. The latest GSII for T-Mobile is the same resolution as my phone, but more than .5" bigger. No thanks. The GNexus with its bigger screen at least upped the resolution, so I have considered that, but only Verizon offers it subsidized, and there's no way I'm moving to Verizon!
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I really like 4", but could live with 4.3" it resolution kept up. The latest GSII for T-Mobile is the same resolution as my phone, but more than .5" bigger. No thanks. The GNexus with its bigger screen at least upped the resolution, so I have considered that, but only Verizon offers it subsidized, and there's no way I'm moving to Verizon!
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agreed, a "retina" like display would be nice, i would consider nothing more than 4.2, and that's with the screens taking up good amount of real estate on the front face of the phone
UPDATE:considering 4.5 now, depending on how JB is and if its 1080p.
Ya I think 4.3 is the Max I'm willing to go so its gonna be interesting to see what the manufacturer's do
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having played with the sgs2 & the galaxy nexus.. i agree that the 4.5" screen on the sgs2 feels a little worthless since it's the same resolution.. but the galaxy nexus at 4.65" doesn't feel too big
without the bezel/frame, i think the 4.6 or 4.7" range is actually reaaally nice. the nexus is barely bigger than my vibrant but the screen looks a lot nicer
cant wait to hopefully pick up a new phone to replace my vibrant in august when my 2year ends with something between 4.5-4.7" and 1080p resolution
I need a larger screen because I'm getting older ;-)
You need a larger phone so you know how big your youknowwhat is and you don't have a ruler around.
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you need a larger phone so you know how big your youknowwhat is and you don't have a ruler around.
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hahaha +10000
lol really?? im disliking this thread just as much as the manufacturers design choices..
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having played with the sgs2 & the galaxy nexus.. i agree that the 4.5" screen on the sgs2 feels a little worthless since it's the same resolution.. but the galaxy nexus at 4.65" doesn't feel too big
without the bezel/frame, i think the 4.6 or 4.7" range is actually reaaally nice. the nexus is barely bigger than my vibrant but the screen looks a lot nicer
cant wait to hopefully pick up a new phone to replace my vibrant in august when my 2year ends with something between 4.5-4.7" and 1080p resolution
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i know you can get used to it if you use it enough. but the most i will go is 4.5" that's with little or no bezel,
a super amoled 1080p with high ppi=worthy upgrade from the vibrant
SGS3! do not let us down..
Why do we need larger screens? (considering that it's one of the most power hungry pieces and the batteries still are in the 1500-1700mAh range).
I don't have any idea, Vibrant's screen is more than enough, there's plenty of space for surfing web, reading ebooks, casually playing games and so.
I can barely hold the phone with one hand while using the thumb on the touch screen, a bigger phone would bring nothing to me.
It's a phone. If you want more headroom, get a tablet.
I also think 4" hits the spot on a phone.
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don't mean to bash on anyone but although I love my vibrant to death, the increased screen size is amazing on phones I've played with ONLY if the resolution makes the upgrade as well..
personally hoping for a screen between 4.5 and 4.7" for the SGS3 with a bare minimum of 720p resolution
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I also think 4" hits the spot on a phone.
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You need a larger phone so you know how big your youknowwhat is and you don't have a ruler around.
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According to that genius man's statement, you probably have a 4" youknowwhat.
I was actually thinking the same thing. Honestly i want something between the galaxy s ii's size and vibrant's size.. Vibrant is alittle too small and the SGS2 is a little too big
I have to tell you watching 720p MKV video on a Note is awesome. And its screen is night and day better than the Vibrant. It makes big different for everything, typing is easier, web browsing is easier, maps are wider, easier to read and more text on a page, not have to zoom in all the way to read pdf, much easier to control game's onscreen controllers.
Of course, as things pass 4.3 its not possible for single hand usage anymore. It's Android, at least you get a choice unlike Apple, there will be manu that will still make 4", if you don't like larger phones don't buy it. Or buy iPhone.
I do think as a handheld phone, above 5" is overkill though, so is 1080p at 5" (it will happen anyway), the text would be unreadable, they would probably raise the dpi to 440, the Note is 320. I think a good compromise is for Samsung to make for two categories, 4.3“ and 4.8". 5.3" is just too much.
It's like asking why you need 24" computer monitor when you are still using 15". Once you use it you will appreciate the screen estate. Also the new larger screen Galaxy are slimmer than the old ones. The Note is very thin.
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I have to tell you watching 720p MKV video on a Note is awesome. And its screen is night and day better than the Vibrant. It makes big different for everything, typing is easier, web browsing is easier, maps are wider, easier to read and more text on a page, not have to zoom in all the way to read pdf, much easier to control game's onscreen controllers.
Of course, as things pass 4.3 its not possible for single hand usage anymore. It's Android, at least you get a choice unlike Apple, there will be manu that will still make 4", if you don't like larger phones don't buy it. Or buy iPhone.
I do think as a handheld phone, above 5" is overkill though, so is 1080p at 5" (it will happen anyway), the text would be unreadable, they would probably raise the dpi to 440, the Note is 320. I think a good compromise is for Samsung to make for two categories, 4.3“ and 4.8". 5.3" is just too much.
It's like asking why you need 24" computer monitor when you are still using 15". Once you use it you will appreciate the screen estate. Also the new larger screen Galaxy are slimmer than the old ones. The Note is very thin.
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I agree that it has its benefits over smaller screens, but I think the market also wants something that's more poket friendly, I seen the note in person and its beautiful but its tablet more than phone..
Besides I want android not ios. And that is why I'm sticking with good ol' vibrant,
next iPhone will be 4" I foresee it
I used to have a 15" monitor then upgraded to a 25.5" its worth it because monitors are stationary so bigger is not a problem...plus a jump to 1900×1200 Res from 1360×768 yes please.
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Hi wrote such a good and long message here and i clicked the backspace by mistake and it's all gone ):
I wrote that i love the vibrant because it's so light and small (relative to other, newer monsters).
I was asking if there is any device out there that has the same dimensions and weight yet is new and has all the new hype - dual-core, higher res display, 8 mega pixel and so on...
I think the Galaxy S proportions are the IDEAL ones when it comes to practicality
You know control + z is undo? Backspace doesnt have to be the end of the world
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What about the point though?
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Sure, personal preference is important especially with ergonimic details like size, weight, and finish; but software and bandwidth is always evolving so hardware needs to keep up, and 10 years ago plenty of people whould have said that the existing phones were perfect but many of those same people are now using smartphones and would rather not go back to 10 year old hardware.
I don't know of any 4" phones that are any more up to date than the Vibrant. I kind of just accepted that my next phone will be 4.3". I don't think I would want to go bigger than that. The T-Mobile Galaxy SII is hideous. No if ands or buts about it. Same res as my 4" phone, but more than a half an inch bigger? No thank you.
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SGS 2 is surprisingly small. It is thinner that the vibrant and the dimensions are not all that much bigger. Felt the same when I put it in my pocket.
So far the Samsung Nexus looks very interesting, bigger screen but only because they make more use of the space, no buttons anymore. Also the bezel is smaller, so the screen can have more space, although the phone itself does not get really bigger...
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SGS 2 is surprisingly small. It is thinner that the vibrant and the dimensions are not all that much bigger. Felt the same when I put it in my pocket.
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Which SII version are U referring to?
I know that the international version is 4.3", but is there a US carrier that has the same 4.3" size?
T-Mobile's is 4.52 and so does ATT (i think)
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Which SII version are U referring to?
I know that the international version is 4.3", but is there a US carrier that has the same 4.3" size?
T-Mobile's is 4.52 and so does ATT (i think)
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AT&T's is only 4.3", but I can't bring myself to switch to AT&T... yet.
My complaint isn't really about the bulk of the phone, but more that when you look at the T-Mobile SGSII with the screen on, the icons are spaced abnormally far apart. Instead of enlarging the icons proportionally, or adding an extra column to the home screens, they just spaced them further apart, and it's ugly.
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Get the T-Mobile Sensation, I'm an ex-vibrant user and love this thinggg
A 4.5" phone is not 1/2" larger than a 4" phone. Just say'in.
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A 4.5" phone is not 1/2" larger than a 4" phone. Just say'in.
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No, but the diagonal measurement of the screen is. Actually it's 0.56" larger if we're talking about the Vibrant vs the SGSII.
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Get the T-Mobile Sensation, I'm an ex-vibrant user and love this thinggg
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But I heard Battery life is horrid on that device. No?
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AT&T's is only 4.3", but I can't bring myself to switch to AT&T... yet.
My complaint isn't really about the bulk of the phone, but more that when you look at the T-Mobile SGSII with the screen on, the icons are spaced abnormally far apart. Instead of enlarging the icons proportionally, or adding an extra column to the home screens, they just spaced them further apart, and it's ugly.
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You're right. I knew something was odd about the way that screen looked. That's which I'm only doing qhd+ in my next phone. Sampled+ is not worth staying at wvga.
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I agree with the OP the Vibrant was the perfect size - If people want bigger screens they should buy a tablet.
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But I heard Battery life is horrid on that device. No?
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Not with the right rom. I get 20 hours+ with moderate use.
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Not with the right rom. I get 20 hours+ with moderate use.
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My friend has it an battery life seems good he went 4 hours an lost 3 percent but like 10 mins of screen on
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After everyone saying that it's soooo different and no one can tell its even Pentile, I thought I would love this phone, especially with it's thinness!
Went to verizon today to check it out (they had one on display). Still obviously pentile. Granted, a LITTLE better than the bionic, but it's still no where as close to as crisp as ANY phone that doesnt sport the Pentile matrix, like the thunderbolt, iphone, even blackberry Torch.
I don't know about you all, but I CAN'T STAND IT. It's so ugly to me to have jagged looking edges and lines through you're screen. My old Blackberry Storm 1 did better than this.
I'm really hoping the pentile on the Galaxy Nexus is better than this, or else I'm just still going to be wishing I had something like the galaxy SII
Hey, thanks for your opinion, I am interested in what people who have actually seen the thing in person have to say. The stores near me dont have it on display yet so I appreciate the info!!
If u like this phone just buy it, forget abt the screen and battery, just buy and enjoy.
It'll be the same thing probably on the Nexus. It really isn't that big of a deal so don't worry about it.
Yeah it really isn't THAT big of a deal but I just don't understand what's so hard about using a little bit better of a screen. I think the nexus will at least make up for the screen with ics and the on screen buttons and NFC. Though much thicker :/. I can't wait to really feel how light this razr is once its out of the display clunky holder thing.
It felt reallllyyyy light even with that thing on there and the thinness is incredible. I sold my bionic a few weeks ago and I have been using a 4s, and I'm getting so sick of not having my 4g. This razr will be a nice change, though the screen definitely looks subpar. I just wish there was a phone on Verizon that I could show to apple fanboys and them not say that their retina display looks better. Because, fact of the matter is, it does look much better(the retina display).
It's almost sad to me that Motorola and Samsung and such brag about their screens being 720p and such when their pixel densities are still less than the retina display, and the pentile is still obvious(assuming the nexus is still the same).
I don't know, I'm just ranting.
The razr did feel very quick however, and the camera app worked VERY WELL. The shutter lag was very low! Much faster than the bionic and it reminded me of a galaxy nexus video displaying the no shutter lag. Though the pictures weren't what I was used to with the 4s, they still turned out pretty nice looking.
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Yeah it really isn't THAT big of a deal but I just don't understand what's so hard about using a little bit better of a screen. I think the nexus will at least make up for the screen with ics and the on screen buttons and NFC. Though much thicker :/. I can't wait to really feel how light this razr is once its out of the display clunky holder thing.
It felt reallllyyyy light even with that thing on there and the thinness is incredible. I sold my bionic a few weeks ago and I have been using a 4s, and I'm getting so sick of not having my 4g. This razr will be a nice change, though the screen definitely looks subpar. I just wish there was a phone on Verizon that I could show to apple fanboys and them not say that their retina display looks better. Because, fact of the matter is, it does look much better(the retina display).
It's almost sad to me that Motorola and Samsung and such brag about their screens being 720p and such when their pixel densities are still less than the retina display, and the pentile is still obvious(assuming the nexus is still the same).
I don't know, I'm just ranting.
The razr did feel very quick however, and the camera app worked VERY WELL. The shutter lag was very low! Much faster than the bionic and it reminded me of a galaxy nexus video displaying the no shutter lag. Though the pictures weren't what I was used to with the 4s, they still turned out pretty nice looking.
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I know what you can show them! Show them the iphone 5 while they still have the 4s! Jk jk. On a serious note think about the screen sizes, 3.7 vs 4.3 and 4.65, they don't even compare. Yes it looks sharp and such, wait till they do a 4 + inch screen, and then if they can keep the same pixel density more power to them. But seriously I've been through 5 phones this year on Verizon alone: 1.) Thunderbolt 2.) Droid Charge 3.) Droid x2 4.) Droid 3 5.) Droid Bionic . To be honest the X2 screen was the worse out of them all, that phone was just utter garbage. The Droid 3 and Bionic screens although pentile, were still acceptable for day to day use and netflix. Seriously if I want breathtaking visuals I'll go home and watch something on my dual 30 inch setup.
Were you disgusted with the display on your Bionic? If you can't stomach the pentile display... There's always the HTC Rezound that you could go for. I will personally wait for the RAZR to come to my anxiously awaiting hands via fedex 11/11 by 10 am gg priority shipping. If the screen is that terrible but I like the speed/feel of the phone I'll probably stick with it. To me high quality build is a HUGE factor, I can't stand HTC/Samsung's cheap plastic build. In the end it's your own personal preferences, I'm not bothered at all by the sub pentile matrix.
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I know what you can show them! Show them the iphone 5 while they still have the 4s! Jk jk. On a serious note think about the screen sizes, 3.7 vs 4.3 and 4.65, they don't even compare. Yes it looks sharp and such, wait till they do a 4 + inch screen, and then if they can keep the same pixel density more power to them. But seriously I've been through 5 phones this year on Verizon alone: 1.) Thunderbolt 2.) Droid Charge 3.) Droid x2 4.) Droid 3 5.) Droid Bionic . To be honest the X2 screen was the worse out of them all, that phone was just utter garbage. The Droid 3 and Bionic screens although pentile, were still acceptable for day to day use and netflix. Seriously if I want breathtaking visuals I'll go home and watch something on my dual 30 inch setup.
Were you disgusted with the display on your Bionic? If you can't stomach the pentile display... There's always the HTC Rezound that you could go for. I will personally wait for the RAZR to come to my anxiously awaiting hands via fedex 11/11 by 10 am gg priority shipping. If the screen is that terrible but I like the speed/feel of the phone I'll probably stick with it. To me high quality build is a HUGE factor, I can't stand HTC/Samsung's cheap plastic build. In the end it's your own personal preferences, I'm not bothered at all by the sub pentile matrix.
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OK ... this post is going to sound antagonistic but it REALLY isnt meant that way ....
are we putting too much emphasis on this Pentile issue ? I mean most of us are upgrading from phones that are a year or two old (in my case an original HTC Desire).
I assume (correct me if im wrong) that the RAZR screen (and the Nexus screen and Rezound screen - not coming to the UK) will blow my Desire screen out of the water !?
Seriously ... I have very good vision but am I genuinely going to spot Pentile without going right up to the screen and looking for it.
I think my Desire is Pentile isnt it ? and ive never considered that blocky or seen any halo effect and thats a much lower resolution !?!
Please dont take offence if you really do notice the difference but im just trying to get some perspective into this discussion .....
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OK ... this post is going to sound antagonistic but it REALLY isnt meant that way ....
are we putting too much emphasis on this Pentile issue ? I mean most of us are upgrading from phones that are a year or two old (in my case an original HTC Desire).
I assume (correct me if im wrong) that the RAZR screen (and the Nexus screen and Rezound screen - not coming to the UK) will blow my Desire screen out of the water !?
Seriously ... I have very good vision but am I genuinely going to spot Pentile without going right up to the screen and looking for it.
I think my Desire is Pentile isnt it ? and ive never considered that blocky or seen any halo effect and thats a much lower resolution !?!
Please dont take offence if you really do notice the difference but im just trying to get some perspective into this discussion .....
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No offense taken at all! I am very attention to detail, and yes you can notice the pixelation to some level (more so on the droid x2 (the most) droid 3 bionic not enough to bother me). I can't personally say anything about the RAZR, but looking at the color saturation looks nice. To be honest I really don't care if it is pixelated even slightly. The OP is the one making the fit about the PenTile display. I don't agree with him, but he is entitled to his opinion, and I will respect that. In the end it's all about personal preference, I for one am okay with the PenTile technology. The main gripe I'd say besides the blocky/jagged text would be the discoloration, but the AMOLED on the RAZR seems to take care of that.
Edit: Derp iPhone screen 3.5 D:.
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No offense taken at all! I am very attention to detail, and yes you can notice the pixelation to some level (more so on the droid x2 (the most) droid 3 bionic not enough to bother me). I can't personally say anything about the RAZR, but looking at the color saturation looks nice. To be honest I really don't care if it is pixelated even slightly. The OP is the one making the fit about the PenTile display. I don't agree with him, but he is entitled to his opinion, and I will respect that. In the end it's all about personal preference, I for one am okay with the PenTile technology. The main gripe I'd say besides the blocky/jagged text would be the discoloration, but the AMOLED on the RAZR seems to take care of that.
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sorry .... i probably 'quoted' the wrong post
just trying to suggest that this is probably going to be a better display than what most of us 'currently' have and probably in the top 5 (?) displays out on the market (or due out imminently) ???
or am i wrong .... ?
construction ALONE is a good enough reason to get this.
The cheap 4$ plastic of the Sasmsungs doesn't justify even a 1080p display, it just looks and feels like 98' cheap gameboy.... Not to mention the SGS screen is one of the worst in the industry today with absolutely NO WHITES and a green hue all over the place.. It's just a very bad engineered screen to fit Samsung's cheap phone.
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construction ALONE is a good enough reason to get this.
The cheap 4$ plastic of the Sasmsungs doesn't justify even a 1080p display, it just looks and feels like 98' cheap gameboy.... Not to mention the SGS screen is one of the worst in the industry today with absolutely NO WHITES and a green hue all over the place.. It's just a very bad engineered screen to fit Samsung's cheap phone.
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True ... construction is a biggy for me. i run a junior football squad (soccer for our American friends) and my phone is often used in the wind and rain around mud etc.
My Desire has stood up pretty well but (in my opinion) the Desire has been the last of the 'sturdy' HTC builds .... to be honest I really fancy a change from HTC too. Will I miss sense ? possibly, however my current 'build' is a Senseless ROM anyway.
I like the look of the RAZR, and need an SD slot (or at least 32gb - which seems to rule out the UK Nexus). Wavering, but the RAZR is still front runner ....
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sorry .... i probably 'quoted' the wrong post
just trying to suggest that this is probably going to be a better display than what most of us 'currently' have and probably in the top 5 (?) displays out on the market (or due out imminently) ???
or am i wrong .... ?
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Yes it will be one of the "better' displays on the market for sure. Regardless of it having a PenTile matrix, it still has good color saturation and unmatched visibility outdoors. I will have my RAZR in another 2-3 days or so, and I will report back here with how the screen is.
I was disgusted by the screen because I wanted it to be leaps and bounds better than the bionic screen, and it wasn't. It was just slightly better.
You all will love you're phones I'm sure, I'm just a snob about the pentiles. For some reason I can't stand it. Especially after looking at the gsII screens. bleh.
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I was disgusted by the screen because I wanted it to be leaps and bounds better than the bionic screen, and it wasn't. It was just slightly better.
You all will love you're phones I'm sure, I'm just a snob about the pentiles. For some reason I can't stand it. Especially after looking at the gsII screens. bleh.
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Me too. But after playing with one for about 10 min the screen on the razr looks beautiful to me. And with the bionic right next to it, I see a huge difference. Thats just me though.
Sir, if you think the SGS-II screen is a better screen, then your statement regarding the Razr screen kinda loses some of it's validity because scientifically, the SGS-II screen is showing you FAKE colors, the white is really really dark, under ANY brightness setting, and the rest of the picture is GREEN in such high levels that it's an insult to any good set of eyes.
In the comparison pictures I have seen, the RAZR's panel, although similar, has MUCH better whites and less of a green hue.
If you meant that you liked the SMOOTHNESS of the SGS screen, in term of pixel arrangement, then maybe ! I'll see when I get one.
The way I see it, the IPHONE has the most advanced, natural display on the market today... Nothing comes close really.
BUT the overall package of the RAZR is what's appealing.
thank you for your thoughts.
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Sir, if you think the SGS-II screen is a better screen, then your statement regarding the Razr screen kinda loses some of it's validity because scientifically, the SGS-II screen is showing you FAKE colors, the white is really really dark, under ANY brightness setting, and the rest of the picture is GREEN in such high levels that it's an insult to any good set of eyes.
In the comparison pictures I have seen, the RAZR's panel, although similar, has MUCH better whites and less of a green hue.
If you meant that you liked the SMOOTHNESS of the SGS screen, in term of pixel arrangement, then maybe ! I'll see when I get one.
The way I see it, the IPHONE has the most advanced, natural display on the market today... Nothing comes close really.
BUT the overall package of the RAZR is what's appealing.
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I would MUCH rather have th SGSII screen than the Razr's. Like I said, the pentile is just horrible in my opinion. Maybe you're right about the greens and all. I'm just saying first impressions, when I picked up the phone, the pentile was noticeable. Make me look back at my iphone and be like, wtf is this?
This is what Gizmodo's review says about the screen:
"We ragged on the Bionic's screen pretty hard. The RAZR's is a lot better. It's not perfect, but it's better. The new Droid's screen is Super AMOLED Advanced. What does the "Advanced" mean? Seriously, nobody has any idea, which means it's probably just marketing speak. "Advanced" aside, its Super AMOLEDness delivers deep blacks and vivid, accurate colors. There's still some pixilation, though. In fact, it's almost as severe as the Bionic's, but with the increased saturation and straight-up deliciousness, it doesn't draw your attention quite as much. It's certainly not as sharp as the 720p display on the HTC Rezound or the iPhone 4S' Retina, but it certainly won't make your eyes bleed."
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/11/mobile-monday-motorola-razr-review/
I gotta say I really don't care whether it is pentile or RGB, I just want to be able to view sites in desktop mode without having to zoom in, (sites like engadget), and still be able to CLEARLY read text beyond the like headlines. At this point, I have yet to see a pentile screen where I can do this...
I was disappointed when I got a Nexus S because I couldn't view pages as well as I used to on my much older Motorola Milestone (Droid 1). And the Atrix, even with its qHD display appeared to be a step backwards from the Milestone. This is one of the things I like to do to test out a new phone, and I have a feeling the RAZR will disappoint in this regard. Out of all of the phones I have checked out lately, the HTC Raider (Vivid in the US) appears to have the clearest rendering of websites in full desktop mode. Regardless, the RAZR's screen is still a step forward and I would really like to see it in person, but until then, threads like this and OP's opinion provide an interesting read.
android is choice ...
... i played with the razr for 10min and i just can say it`s a great device, pure black, nice reading ... pentile or not, cool phone.
I used the nexus one for two years EXTREMELY HAPPY. until I dropped and broke it. So I went to buy a phone and I was initially going to buy the amaze, but for some reason my brother, the strore owner and my mom all loved samsung so I said fine. I HATE THIS PHONE.
i've had the sgs2 for about two days and can tell you from all the research i've done and shots i've taken. my moms my touch 4g takes better pictures. my nexus pictures comes out almost the same clarity sometimes even better. I did some research, and this is what I did not know, If you guys knew anything about camera's the HTC amaze comes with a backside illuminated sensor only one other phone has that and that's the iphone 4s. the aperture on the htc amaze is also f/2.2 compared to sgs2 which is around f/2.7 and better than the iphone 4s which is f/2.4. the lower the aperture the more light the camera lets in and thus better picture quality comes out.
As far as the phone itself goes I hate the SGs2, not because its a bad phone....samsung is just retarted with all that real estate I can only see like 6 contacts on a screen at a time and in many screen everything is blow up and cannot be changed unless you changed the density of the phone after rooting, which messes with the programs and doesn't show them correctly and the phone itself. but when I did this, the contact screen and the settings screens looked amazing, they showed, the dialer was about 1/4 of the screen and the rest was black (this is what I mean about messing things up changing pixel density) with the superamoled plus I have changed the densit of my phone to 160 from the original 240 and EVERYTHING looks VERY crisp BECUAUSE OF THE EXTRA SUBPIXELS...everything on the SGs2 looks TOO BIG stock...its like a kids toy, that screen can hold 25 icons easily instead of the regular 16 or whatever (as I use launcherpro to cram the icons) even the notification bar is too big...sure it has a big screen but if you have a smaller phone that gives you the same effect (5 or 5 contacts in one screen etc. and same amound of icons like my old nexus one) I'd take the smaller phone over the sg2 that does not use the big screen efficiently AT ALL so i don't have to lug a big thing around...some programs like the web browser and messaging you can decrease font size and it is still perfectly clear and crisp due to the extra subpixels even though its a 480 by 800 phone, I don't understand why samsung didn't make this an option for the entire phone. there's nothing superior in the galaxy S 2 over the HTC amaze, besides having better color on the screen than a qhd lcd (which some say is better) and being lighter....touchwiz 4.0 has nothing over sense either... even the lockscreen is crap on touchwiz, I had to buy widgetlocker pro to use instead of the regular one. the build quality of HTC amaze is sturdy and nice, yes a little heavier than sgs2 which uses all plastic...I plan on getting a case for either one so I don't care if its made of plastic or metal, if you're going to argue the dropping the phone is better with plastic.
The amaze also packs like 4 microphones while the sgs 2 has 2. the sgs2 speakphone is very muffled and crappy, where the htc amazes is extremely clear.
I am so pissed with such a nice screen on this phone samsung could have lowered the density and given us much more for the real estate instead they were just lazy and kept the same old thing. It like me having a 50 inch monitor that is can show crisp at lower resolutions but I limit the system to having a lower density or resolution. Maybe some people like the BIG OLD spaced out icons and contact list, but I'm not a 90 year old person who needs a big icons and fonts like that.
as far as the galaxy nexus goes I have not seen one yet, but samsung again cheped out on the camera and the processor. it has a 720p pentil amoled, which is yet to be determined if it will prove to overcome the pentile downfall.
also the amaze has a dedicated camera and camcorder button.
I hope as they update to ICS they can change the density of this screen, then I might think about keeping the phone...otherwize I'm going to HTC amaze or something better that comes out by then.
I don't hate samsung, infact I love samsung TV's better than all TV's and have a galaxy tab 10.1 which is running stock honeycomb and will never upgrade to touchwiz. Samsung shines in screen quality thats all they know how to do. ( The camera department and software department of samsung is lacking, as well as some hardware. now If they can only get the software department to use the very nice screen the way it was supposed to be used...if you count the subpixels on the sgs2 and the htc amaze. They both come out almost equal. with and edge actually on the sgs2. learn how to use your screens samsung!!!!
Thanks for listening to my rant.
Tbh im to lazy to read it all XD
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Tbh im to lazy to read it all XD
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He definitely wrote an essay.
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So you write this to convince yourself to get the amaze. as much as opinions go, you state the camera is better and screen real estate could be better as well as pixel density. It's pretty clear this phone is not for you. If you're within buyers remorse why not just return it if you feel this opinionated and unhappy with it?
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I used the nexus one for two years EXTREMELY HAPPY. until I dropped and broke it. So I went to buy a phone and I was initially going to buy the amaze, but for some reason my brother, the strore owner and my mom all loved samsung so I said fine. I HATE THIS PHONE.
i've had the sgs2 for about two days and can tell you from all the research i've done and shots i've taken. my moms my touch 4g takes better pictures. my nexus pictures comes out almost the same clarity sometimes even better. I did some research, and this is what I did not know, If you guys knew anything about camera's the HTC amaze comes with a backside illuminated sensor only one other phone has that and that's the iphone 4s. the aperture on the htc amaze is also f/2.2 compared to sgs2 which is around f/2.7 and better than the iphone 4s which is f/2.4. the lower the aperture the more light the camera lets in and thus better picture quality comes out.
As far as the phone itself goes I hate the SGs2, not because its a bad phone....samsung is just retarted with all that real estate I can only see like 6 contacts on a screen at a time and in many screen everything is blow up and cannot be changed unless you changed the density of the phone after rooting, which messes with the programs and doesn't show them correctly and the phone itself. but when I did this, the contact screen and the settings screens looked amazing, they showed, the dialer was about 1/4 of the screen and the rest was black (this is what I mean about messing things up changing pixel density) with the superamoled plus I have changed the densit of my phone to 160 from the original 240 and EVERYTHING looks VERY crisp BECUAUSE OF THE EXTRA SUBPIXELS...everything on the SGs2 looks TOO BIG stock...its like a kids toy, that screen can hold 25 icons easily instead of the regular 16 or whatever (as I use launcherpro to cram the icons) even the notification bar is too big...sure it has a big screen but if you have a smaller phone that gives you the same effect (5 or 5 contacts in one screen etc. and same amound of icons like my old nexus one) I'd take the smaller phone over the sg2 that does not use the big screen efficiently AT ALL so i don't have to lug a big thing around...some programs like the web browser and messaging you can decrease font size and it is still perfectly clear and crisp due to the extra subpixels even though its a 480 by 800 phone, I don't understand why samsung didn't make this an option for the entire phone. there's nothing superior in the galaxy S 2 over the HTC amaze, besides having better color on the screen than a qhd lcd (which some say is better) and being lighter....touchwiz 4.0 has nothing over sense either... even the lockscreen is crap on touchwiz, I had to buy widgetlocker pro to use instead of the regular one. the build quality of HTC amaze is sturdy and nice, yes a little heavier than sgs2 which uses all plastic...I plan on getting a case for either one so I don't care if its made of plastic or metal, if you're going to argue the dropping the phone is better with plastic.
The amaze also packs like 4 microphones while the sgs 2 has 2. the sgs2 speakphone is very muffled and crappy, where the htc amazes is extremely clear.
I am so pissed with such a nice screen on this phone samsung could have lowered the density and given us much more for the real estate instead they were just lazy and kept the same old thing. It like me having a 50 inch monitor that is can show crisp at lower resolutions but I limit the system to having a lower density or resolution. Maybe some people like the BIG OLD spaced out icons and contact list, but I'm not a 90 year old person who needs a big icons and fonts like that.
as far as the galaxy nexus goes I have not seen one yet, but samsung again cheped out on the camera and the processor. it has a 720p pentil amoled, which is yet to be determined if it will prove to overcome the pentile downfall.
also the amaze has a dedicated camera and camcorder button.
I hope as they update to ICS they can change the density of this screen, then I might think about keeping the phone...otherwize I'm going to HTC amaze or something better that comes out by then.
I don't hate samsung, infact I love samsung TV's better than all TV's and have a galaxy tab 10.1 which is running stock honeycomb and will never upgrade to touchwiz. Samsung shines in screen quality thats all they know how to do. ( The camera department and software department of samsung is lacking, as well as some hardware. now If they can only get the software department to use the very nice screen the way it was supposed to be used...if you count the subpixels on the sgs2 and the htc amaze. They both come out almost equal. with and edge actually on the sgs2. learn how to use your screens samsung!!!!
Thanks for listening to my rant.
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Lololololololololol!!!!!!!!!
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I actually read it all 0_0
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So you write this to convince yourself to get the amaze. as much as opinions go, you state the camera is better and screen real estate could be better as well as pixel density. It's pretty clear this phone is not for you. If you're within buyers remorse why not just return it if you feel this opinionated and unhappy with it?
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I have so much to say in response to the OP, but I don't want to sound like an ass. I really don't see the point of this post. This long, boring essay would of definitely been suited well in the Amaze section.
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Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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Or he'll notice the horrible screen bleed from the soft keys and reconsider.
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Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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This phone has issues too but I think they are much more tolerable than overheating, battery and signal issues. The Amaze has issues that most likely will never be fixed with software.
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Don't forget the lack of Dev in amaze forum
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Just go get a POS Amaze and be happy then.. Hahah
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I bought the Amaze and the GS2. I prefer the GS2 over the Amaze still.
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I am going to return just hate the restocking fee. I just want to hear from people who have had both and went for the sgs2 and why?I'm going to be paying full price around 600 and keep it for a while just want to now some good evidence why sgs2 is better?
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I used the nexus one for two years EXTREMELY HAPPY. until I dropped and broke it. So I went to buy a phone and I was initially going to buy the amaze, but for some reason my brother, the strore owner and my mom all loved samsung so I said fine. I HATE THIS PHONE.
i've had the sgs2 for about two days and can tell you from all the research i've done and shots i've taken. my moms my touch 4g takes better pictures. my nexus pictures comes out almost the same clarity sometimes even better. I did some research, and this is what I did not know, If you guys knew anything about camera's the HTC amaze comes with a backside illuminated sensor only one other phone has that and that's the iphone 4s. the aperture on the htc amaze is also f/2.2 compared to sgs2 which is around f/2.7 and better than the iphone 4s which is f/2.4. the lower the aperture the more light the camera lets in and thus better picture quality comes out.
As far as the phone itself goes I hate the SGs2, not because its a bad phone....samsung is just retarted with all that real estate I can only see like 6 contacts on a screen at a time and in many screen everything is blow up and cannot be changed unless you changed the density of the phone after rooting, which messes with the programs and doesn't show them correctly and the phone itself. but when I did this, the contact screen and the settings screens looked amazing, they showed, the dialer was about 1/4 of the screen and the rest was black (this is what I mean about messing things up changing pixel density) with the superamoled plus I have changed the densit of my phone to 160 from the original 240 and EVERYTHING looks VERY crisp BECUAUSE OF THE EXTRA SUBPIXELS...everything on the SGs2 looks TOO BIG stock...its like a kids toy, that screen can hold 25 icons easily instead of the regular 16 or whatever (as I use launcherpro to cram the icons) even the notification bar is too big...sure it has a big screen but if you have a smaller phone that gives you the same effect (5 or 5 contacts in one screen etc. and same amound of icons like my old nexus one) I'd take the smaller phone over the sg2 that does not use the big screen efficiently AT ALL so i don't have to lug a big thing around...some programs like the web browser and messaging you can decrease font size and it is still perfectly clear and crisp due to the extra subpixels even though its a 480 by 800 phone, I don't understand why samsung didn't make this an option for the entire phone. there's nothing superior in the galaxy S 2 over the HTC amaze, besides having better color on the screen than a qhd lcd (which some say is better) and being lighter....touchwiz 4.0 has nothing over sense either... even the lockscreen is crap on touchwiz, I had to buy widgetlocker pro to use instead of the regular one. the build quality of HTC amaze is sturdy and nice, yes a little heavier than sgs2 which uses all plastic...I plan on getting a case for either one so I don't care if its made of plastic or metal, if you're going to argue the dropping the phone is better with plastic.
The amaze also packs like 4 microphones while the sgs 2 has 2. the sgs2 speakphone is very muffled and crappy, where the htc amazes is extremely clear.
I am so pissed with such a nice screen on this phone samsung could have lowered the density and given us much more for the real estate instead they were just lazy and kept the same old thing. It like me having a 50 inch monitor that is can show crisp at lower resolutions but I limit the system to having a lower density or resolution. Maybe some people like the BIG OLD spaced out icons and contact list, but I'm not a 90 year old person who needs a big icons and fonts like that.
as far as the galaxy nexus goes I have not seen one yet, but samsung again cheped out on the camera and the processor. it has a 720p pentil amoled, which is yet to be determined if it will prove to overcome the pentile downfall.
also the amaze has a dedicated camera and camcorder button.
I hope as they update to ICS they can change the density of this screen, then I might think about keeping the phone...otherwize I'm going to HTC amaze or something better that comes out by then.
I don't hate samsung, infact I love samsung TV's better than all TV's and have a galaxy tab 10.1 which is running stock honeycomb and will never upgrade to touchwiz. Samsung shines in screen quality thats all they know how to do. ( The camera department and software department of samsung is lacking, as well as some hardware. now If they can only get the software department to use the very nice screen the way it was supposed to be used...if you count the subpixels on the sgs2 and the htc amaze. They both come out almost equal. with and edge actually on the sgs2. learn how to use your screens samsung!!!!
Thanks for listening to my rant.
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cool story bro
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Meh... enjoy being able to fry an egg on your HTC phone & having to carry a charger with you everywhere you go.
This reminds me of waaaaay back in early 05 when I was devving for the Sidekick II. The Treo 650 had just been announced and I was sick of having to hack the hell out of my SKII just to get ringtones on it, so I was gung-ho to get a T650. I went to the Danger forums & posted a long rant just like this about how much I hated the SKII & how I was gonna get the T650 as soon as I got paid. Lets just say that we've been MUCH nicer to the OP here than the Sidekick crew was to me xD Their general (and cleaned up) response was "don't let the door hit you in the ass, *****". Granted, I WAS happier with the Treo, but yeah... bashing a device IN that device's home forum- not the best idea! lol...
I hate HTC phones...I'M on a pos evo .4g right now because i sold my galaxy s vibrant for sgs 2....I love samsung phones and super amoled...Cya and dont let the door hit ya on the way Out!
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I can argue everything you just said. But seriously I'm too lazy.
Lets just say.. YOULL COME BACK
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I'm sick of HTC. I've had the N1, MT4G, and the Sensation ALL with some type of dust under the screen problem with the sensation being the worst (which is why I got rid of it as soon as I noticed and picked up the SGS2 and am damn happy about it). I did love those phones, especially the beloved N1, but I can't stand seeing that dust when the screen was off or if I used a dark wallpaper. The only thing I do miss is the qHD and CM7, but the SAMOLED makes up for the screen and cyanogen himself said CM is being worked on already for the 989, so I'm pretty stoked for that too.
So I met up with a friend who has a Galaxy S II and when realized that I had a Rezound, he asked to see it. The first thing he said was "woah this screen is nice!"... I thought to myself "isn't the GSII screen, being true RGB, supposed to be nice?"... but apparently he liked my screen more then his.
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voxigenboy said:
So I met up with a friend who has a Galaxy S II and when realized that I had a Rezound, he asked to see it. The first thing he said was "woah this screen is nice!"... I thought to myself "isn't the GSII screen, being true RGB, supposed to be nice?"... but apparently he liked my screen more then his.
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Well when you compare the Rezound screen 1280 x 720p it is also RGB. Not to mention the high pixel density count. Some say pixel density might not matter, but when you start getting to text close up, HD images and videos you will notice. The SII screen isn't bad by any standards.. Super AMOLED + is sexy and the viewing angles are superior vs SLCD. But the resolution on that screen is only what 800 x 480? Now if it was a super amoled + HD with no pentile submatrix like the Nexus is going to have (that + screen banding) I really don't see how the reviewers say it's a beautiful screen. But for now the Rezound does have one of the best screens on the market yes.
I'm sold on the rezounds screen. I really see a different between it and any other device. The pixels per inch really do matter, pics, hq videos, webpages... i don't know it all looks great!
i picked up my rezound on release day and i'll have to agree, this screen is Fing AMAZING well for a phone anyway.
also the camera and picture quality is top notch. even in low light indoors the video and pictures is so good.
so far i really haven't found anything to complain about. I do miss the thunderbolt kickstand but i'll manage.
We are praising this thing now, but watch, next year it will be 1080p and we will all feel like losers having this phone. lol
On a serious note, this screen is awesome! I love bragging to iPhone owners
AtLemacks said:
We are praising this thing now, but watch, next year it will be 1080p and we will all feel like losers having this phone. lol
On a serious note, this screen is awesome! I love bragging to iPhone owners
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Hmm I don't think they will jump that fast for resolution for phones. 800 x 480 has been the standard for awhile for phones. qhD is now just starting to be the "standard" with HD starting to trickle in on a few phones.
The screen is the best out so far, for any smart phone. So used to not being able to read text from far that I hold the rezound a lot closer to my face than I should. This phone can pack so much clearly readable text on 1 page, cause of the resolution. Videos?... pshhh. I've seen videos shot by horrible cams, turned into crisp playback. Any image you display on this device just seems nicer. No complaints on this screen whatsoever.
...just another unbiased review from a proud rezound owner
... lol, but seriously this screen rocks!
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zetsumeikuro said:
Some say pixel density might not matter,
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Those people are not so bright. It might not matter after a certain point, but it matters my friend!
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Those people are not so bright. It might not matter after a certain point, but it matters my friend!
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They can't help it if their eyes are broken. I pity them.
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
And what would you expect to see looking at a poor quality entitle screen?
My s3 is probably the clearest looking screen I've looked upon
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
I'll trust Samsung on this, since there pretty good at making screens.
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
Mopral said:
Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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No matter what? Even if you're holding it like a inch away from your phone? I usually use my iPod touch (I have a Blackberry phone, it sucks for web browsing) when in the mornings when I don't feel like getting out of my bed. I usually hold it just 6 inches away from my eyes.
My S3 has to be the clearest screen I have ever seen. Had it for a few days now and still doesn't fail to amaze me whenever I turn the screen on.
You don't have to worry about holding it 6 inches or even 2 inches away from your face.
Its really beautiful...much better then my Nexus...
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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Arsaw said:
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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This.
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This.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
WiFi_N said:
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
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I saw the Motorola Droid Razr before I knew what pentile was and I thought it looked weird and pixellated so it's certainely not placebo. At the ppi of the GS3 it doesn't matter imo. I do still notice it (but not like I can count the pixels.. but it just is a little bit different then normal rgb screens) but the screen is still somehow the best I've seen in a phone.
You shouldn't keep yourself from buying it because of this as it not even really noticable, it's the best screen there is imo and it even spares some battery.
I can notice the pentile effect if I stare hard at the screen from less than 10cm away. I've compared my S3 to the HOX and the HOX does indeed has a finer screen. But still the S3 has one amazing screen. The blacks are much better although the colours seems a little over saturated and slightly on the warm side.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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Well then I guess you have two options 1.) Wait two weeks and then go look at the phone 2.) Go with a different phone.
The only time I notice the pentile screen is whilst reading some text. It is barely recognisable but if and when you notice it you'll subconsciously start to look out for it. But it is very minor indeed, and changing the font of text helps to more or less eradicate it.
Aside from that minor quibble re text I have to say that this screen is absolutely awesome. Colours and contrast are absolutely amazing. I tend to set the screen mode to Natural as I think this gives the best colour effect.
I know this screen is awesome because when I switch from it to my iPad 3's retina screen I don't feel any degradation, if anything pictures and videos look better on it than on the iPad 3 - and that's saying something!
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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I didn't own the G Nexus, but there is no purple tint at low brightness. My S2 had a slight yet noticeable yellowing at low brightness - this does not
Yes, if you will use the phone under a magnifying glass
"Super Amoled Plus" will never work with High Resolution. They are not designed for that.
Move up dude
I my opinion It is noticeable, but only at ~3" away and I do have 20/20 vision but in any other situation It's fine, I have even fooled a few friends who own an s2 that it was a 'plus' display but as above you are best going to have a look
Its noticeable, coming from an Xperia S (which I gave to my wife for this phone) and having a G Note which died before the Xperia S, its the same for me as the G Note.
It's mainly around fonts and small icons which is more noticeable, definitely not in pictures unless you have super vision, but most of the time you're looking at fonts or small icons, so yes its there.
But FWIW I wouldn't trade it for the contrast, I've never owned a phone with such contrast (actually the Note was the same), but having said that in sunlight forget using this phone, side by side in sunlight with the Xperia S, the Sony wins hands down.