Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
iPad 2? You need to keep up with your tech news son, the ipad 3 is coming out in like a week.
ezcats said:
Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
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There are hundreds of threads about this^^ Anyway. In my opinion the prime is superior to the ipad in every way. And there is no lag. You cant compare it to the galaxy tab, it has a completely new chip and brand new android 4.0 on it Depends on what you need it for but 16:10 is just better in almost all situations. Unless you like black bars when you watch movies. It has HDMI out, an SD card slot, is thinner and lighter than the ipad, has a much better display, (IPS+ is really amazing, i never had a situation so far where i couldnt read the display, USB&full size SD card on the dock. And these are only hardware advantages. We just had a thread in the general forum: If you used android for some time you cant go back to iOS.
There are/were some people with radio issues, but there only a few - my wifi is perfect and the same as on all the other devices we have around here.
There's only a few reasons to get the ipad imho.
1. you need apple
2. there is a specific app that will only be available for iOS.
[e] before you ask, yes i think the prime is also better than the iPad 3. Yes it has a higher resolution but thats not making up for all the other stuff thats missing compared to the prime. again IMHO.
Get a Prime. End of story if you want reasons look at the thread in my signature called positive transformer thread.
Buy the prime - no question
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Well it depends. to be honest. I've had the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Its my fathers now, gave it to him as a gift), iPad 2 which essentially i paid for it but my sis uses it regularly. But i just ordered the iPad 3/HD whatever (sold the iPad 2). But it really comes down to what you really need the tablet for. Is it entertainment (Movies, Videos, not gaming though) because if those are your basic needs i'd say TFP now or wait for the TFP Infinity. But if your basic needs are gaming i'd say iPad because there are plenty of more games out there for the iPad than Prime obviously.
thanks guys...i say the ipad 2 because its $399 now (you would be stupid to buy the new one)
i actually was mainly asking about wifi issues...this is rated 3 starts on amazon and that concerns me that that many people have issues...just wanted to make sure that the wifi works and i can use netflix all around my house. (5000 sq ft)
Amazon ratings for this device is flawed. Over a month ago we had several members and people who didnt even own primes go to amazon site and give prime bad ratings. Anyone can leave a rating there. Reason was because the bootloader was locked. So it messed up its rating on Amazon and it can't be changed.
Wifi n Netflix works great for me. Still possible to run into issue with ipad2 as its wifi is not that strong also and had several issues with it. Just Google ipad2 wifi issues and pages n pages of hits will pop up on it.
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Amazon ratings for this device is flawed. Over a month ago we had several members and people who didnt even own primes go to amazon site and give prime bad ratings. Anyone can leave a rating there. Reason was because the bootloader was locked. So it messed up its rating on Amazon and it can't be changed.
Wifi n Netflix works great for me. Still possible to run into issue with ipad2 as its wifi is not that strong also and had several issues with it. Just Google ipad2 wifi issues and pages n pages of hits will pop up on it.
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thanks...this is what i needed. I know that ipad has wifi issues. Like really bad issues (it cant connect to my network)
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thanks...this is what i needed. I know that ipad has wifi issues. Like really bad issues (it cant connect to my network)
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If you're going to use a tablet for mostly emails, quick internet browsing and netflix/youtube/videos/movies i would honestly say wait for the new asus transformer prime infinity which fixes wifi issue with new hardware i believe and a better rf window. Also with the 1920x1200 resolution your movies are going to look great... iPad 2 at my house roughly half yours (2500 sq ft.) Gets reception everywhere, but at the size of your house you might want to buy some wifi extenders or have two routers. If your going to get the iPad 2, also why not buy a used iPad 2 off something like ebay/craigslist? since you don't want the new iPad many others do and their selling it for pretty cheap. I see on a local site such as craigslist a 64gb iPad 2 Wifi only going for as little as 500 in pretty good condition.
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If you're going to use a tablet for mostly emails, quick internet browsing and netflix/youtube/videos/movies i would honestly say wait for the new asus transformer prime infinity which fixes wifi issue with new hardware i believe and a better rf window. Also with the 1920x1200 resolution your movies are going to look great... iPad 2 at my house roughly half yours (2500 sq ft.) Gets reception everywhere, but at the size of your house you might want to buy some wifi extenders or have two routers. If your going to get the iPad 2, also why not buy a used iPad 2 off something like ebay/craigslist? since you don't want the new iPad many others do and their selling it for pretty cheap. I see on a local site such as craigslist a 64gb iPad 2 Wifi only going for as little as 500 in pretty good condition.
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i looked it up and saw that the prices are going to be about 600-800 which is too much for me....i'll stick with the prime.
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i looked it up and saw that the prices are going to be about 600-800 which is too much for me....i'll stick with the prime.
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If that is the case wait a few more weeks, someone posted that asus willl do some hardware changes on the current model which supposedly fixes weak wifi and the wifi-bluetooth issue
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If that is the case wait a few more weeks, someone posted that asus willl do some hardware changes on the current model which supposedly fixes weak wifi and the wifi-bluetooth issue
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No hardware change.
2. As to the rumors of a hardware fix for WiFi/BT dropouts, the actual fix is just ensuring that the hardware utilized in current units is performing to tested standards. Basically to ensure this level of compliance we are replacing components within the WiFi subsystem on an as needed basis and then testing the units before shipment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537260
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No hardware change.
2. As to the rumors of a hardware fix for WiFi/BT dropouts, the actual fix is just ensuring that the hardware utilized in current units is performing to tested standards. Basically to ensure this level of compliance we are replacing components within the WiFi subsystem on an as needed basis and then testing the units before shipment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537260
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Ah thanks for the correction =) i just read it somewhere, definitely not that thread though.
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Ah thanks for the correction =) i just read it somewhere, definitely not that thread though.
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I know the thread, but that was all speculation, and it came shortly after the announcement of the TF300 and Infinity, so some people theorized that it'll be using the hardware from those instead.
ezcats said:
Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
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From a price perspective, you can get a refurbed 16GB iPad 2 directly from Apple with the same warranty that a brand new one comes with for $350. So if you are looking for the less expensive option the iPad 2 would be the way to go as it is going to be about $300 cheaper (that is if you get the dock for the Prime). If you go this route though, you have half as much storage as the Prime and have no way to expand.
Personally, I love my Prime. I don't have any problems with my wifi at all. IMO the Prime is a better tablet overall when compared to the iPad 2 or even the new iPad. The Prime will arguably provide the best user experience, mainly because of the keyboard dock.
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(that is if you get the dock for the Prime).
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Not a valid comparison. I'd say they'll save $150, then have to buy keyboard (either way).
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If you do not need to take notes effectively on screen by hand and you do not need Music production applications such as multitracking, amp and effects simulation for guitar and base then get the Prime, absolutely. Even with a few potential hardware issues the Prime is a lovely beast.
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If you do not need to take notes effectively on screen by hand and you do not need Music production applications such as multitracking, amp and effects simulation for guitar and base then get the Prime, absolutely. Even with a few potential hardware issues the Prime is a lovely beast.
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I cannot tell if you are trolling or genuinely believe this.
OP,the iPAD 3 is out, get it is you want an iPAD.
As for the prime, look into the new ones, as much as I love my current prime I will be looking at new ones when they come out.
Oh, and how exactly did you get AMEX to refund you your entire purchase price for a product that you dropped a chair on?
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Oh, and how exactly did you get AMEX to refund you your entire purchase price for a product that you dropped a chair on?
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Believe AMEX automatically puts some kind of protection on items purchased with their card. Time to read your cardholder agreement.
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I am looking to buy the Prime as it was offered as a birthday present, and on the 12th we were set to pick it up but I was warned that there were serious WiFi and Bluetooth problems as well as the original GPS issues. I want it for general use such as browsing, playing games, a bit of word processing and mainly because I just want a tablet. I was offered an iPad 2 as a second option but much prefer everythif about the Prime. I have read Amazon.com reviews and they haven't mentioned Bluetooth issues just the wifi and said it was better than some people say it supposedly is? I was just looking for general pointers including positives and negatives on the Prime Tablet (TF201) and wondering how bad the actual wifi is and if a wifi signal booster on the router at home would solve the issue?
Any help would be much appreciated
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
I say it is a good buy. My wifi works fine at home and work which are the only places I have tried it. I have only tested Bluetooth and wifi concurrently with a Bluetooth controller and had no issues with either. The wifi on my prime is better than my Droid charge's wifi in fact.
As far as GPS is concerned, I can get locks without wifi though the accuracy is poor compared to my phone, Garmin handheld, and Garmin navigation devices. I have not tested the GPS at any higher rated of speed or over more distance than walking in my front yard so also can't comment on its use for navigational purposes.
I am happy with my prime and have no remorse about the purchase.
Yes, unlike all the people complaining here.... I have found it to be very nice haven't had any issues yet!
Be warned that a good percent of the tablets are defected by some sort of issue. In my case, the WiFi wouldn't work at all but Best Buy is now doing a swapping program for the tablet. I am so happy Best Buy is doing this for me
Be aware that Asus removed the gps from the specs, the metal backplate also affects wifi and bluetooth to a lesser extent. If possible ask for a demo of the features before you buy it.
Buy it! The progress with root and overclocking without even the unlocked bootloader has been amazing. I think we're in for a really awesome, dev-friendly tablet. Don't miss it!
If you don't need reliable GPS and can stay reasonably close to your AP then yes, it is a good choice. But if you want those things then wait and get the 700 which appears to be what we thought we were getting in the first place.
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Yes. Absolutely. Just get one that works. I'm ROCKING Out quad core 1600mhz!!!!
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jdbaker82 said:
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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Now that's not true is it?
I say go ahead and get it, unless the GPS is a big thing to you
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jdbaker82 said:
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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You forgot the /sarcasm tag at the end.
Reality check: The problems are not as widespread as one might think after looking at the forums here but there is a substantial percentage of chance that you might run into one of several problems. This, ignoring the Wi-Fi and GPS ones, which may or may not be a problem for you depending on your hardware setup around the house and need for a navigation enabled tablet.
It is truly a great product, but there are times when the software does hickup. That is nothing to worry about, because ICS is brand new and is only like 4 devices (officially). Plus we are getting unlocked bootloaders and then will be able to do some pretty amazing things. Ironically, we still can do amazing things, due to having root and being able to overclock. With time software issues will be fixed, as ICS only became available over the air updating 2 days ago. It will be perfect within a month or so.
The magic 8 ball says : too early to tell
Its personal preference, do you ride gnarly wave that's the cutting edge tech of android and have these sort of growing pains or do you play it safe and go with a solid proven device that won't play with any of your files without hacking it , not to mention you selling your soul to a single manufacturer if you go Apple..
That said I'm happy with mine and have little issues and feel my tablet will be future proof for a bit longer then what else is on the market, if you go with the prime prepare yourself for an exchange it seems to be 50/50 on getting a good one and from what i can see here is the people who managed to get good ones love em,myself included , take it FWIW...
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So I've been patiently waiting for income tax money to get a new tablet, been reading a lot between the tf101 and the tf201 and I want a tablet that will have good development, I know the prime is too new and it has his fair share of issues including wifi and GPS, I can care less about GPS but I need wifi so as long as I can get a decent wifi signal so I can seat in my couch or my bed and pickup my wifi I'll be good, now the light bleeding from what the videos I've seen on YouTube wouldn't be a big problem but I don't know if I would be able to deal with dead pixels, now to my question , is there anyone that upgraded to the prime from the transformer and do you feel like it was a mayor upgrade or do you think the original is still a mayor contender? Is a $100 difference so is not that much of a difference in price, but from reading how Asus might have released it prematurely makes me wonder if I should go for the older more stable with more development transformer tf101.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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Thanks for the reply! I'm probably getting it and if those are my only issues(wifi/GPS) then everything will be great, just hope the development here will grow soon and increase the choices of roms and stuff.
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i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
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i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
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the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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While some say GPS is no big deal, look at the amount of whining about it. I want it for alot of reasons. It automatically updates weather to the location, etc.
I purchased mine Less than two weeks ago from Best Buy. I have NO GPS at all. mine is a BCOKAS134452 serial number. My wifi isnt that bad actualy but i feel it is lacking when compared to my rooted nook color. I will try to open mine tonight and make one mod to see if it improves, if not, it goes back tomorrow.
Im not going to exchange it. Im going to return it receive my FULL refund. Then Re-purchase another unit so i have ANOTHER 2 weeks, incase there are issues.
While some may not find this right. I have noticed some people have major issues 3 or 4 weeks after purchase. That is what worries me. Just my .02$
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
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Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
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Thanks it looks like there's a lot of people very happy with theirs in that thread, definitely looking forward to having one.
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roloracer said:
I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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Thanks for your input, I had originally thought about the tf101 because of how good is said to be for the price, but I changed my mind thanks to all of you guys and also from browsing thru the positive thread, I'm definitely getting the prime, can't wait for the income tax money to get here, it should be about another week.
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Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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jassari said:
Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
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+1....ATP RULES...see decline prices on ipad 2, no match for ATP.
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So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Totally agree. You can doo eeet!
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the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I read an article stating that less than 5% of extended warranties are ever used. Something to think about.
GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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That's why I said in OP that I could care less about GPS working, but wifi is a big thing for me.
My money came into my account yesterday, not sure but I might pick one up from best buy, play with it and decide what to do before the 14 day return period ends.
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Just returned my tab 10.1 due to screen problem and looking for a replacement. Was thinking about tab 7.7 but i think only prime can play 1080p mkv with no problem. However, when i check the 'UK Transformer Prime PRE-ORDER LINKS AND ORDER TRACKING' all i can see is wifi, BT problems, dead pixel, light bleed.... is that means majority of the prime still has problem? should i waste my time to get one and try my luck
please give me some advice
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K999rrl said:
Just returned my tab 10.1 due to screen problem and looking for a replacement. Was thinking about tab 7.7 but i think only prime can play 1080p mkv with no problem. However, when i check the 'UK Transformer Prime PRE-ORDER LINKS AND ORDER TRACKING' all i can see is wifi, BT problems, dead pixel, light bleed.... is that means majority of the prime still has problem? should i waste my time to get one and try my luck
please give me some advice
thank you
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There are plenty of folks who have good primes some who have had negative experiences and there are some peeps who spend their lives putting up negative posts on each and every thread whether they are relevant or not.
Like any new product there are teething problems and some peeps have had issues with bluetooth streaming, wi fi reception and in the very early days no serial number in the system. There have also been peeps with light bleed problems.
The wifi reception appears to be variable, when i am close to my router or AP it flies but reception can fall away when you move away from the wifi source.
The prime itself is a little belter and the keyboard dock is what makes t for me as it's functionality is increased dramatically with it and it makes typing so much easier! The keyboard is also brilliant for controlling a pc remotely through the included splash top streamer app which works really well and allows me to do things away from my pc that I could not do on the tablet.
I would also state that it is my view that the forthcoming models such as teh 300 and infinity will have improved wifi abilities as they will not have a full metal jacket, with the 300 having a plastic back and the 700 having a matching plastic strip where the ariels are situated.
I would advise to but online as that way you have 7 working days to inspect your prime and decide to keep it or not which you are not guaranteed of in a shop. You need to keep all of the wrapping and if you are careful you can remove the internal plastic wrapping without causing any rips in it.
Another factor is that Asus have been dealing with updates in a timely manner and much more responsive with regard to updates than any other hardware firm I can think of...HTC and creative both come to mind even though htc are not the worst.
So I cannot tell you what to do but you might want to play with one for a week and then decide if it is for you or do you want to wait for updated ones in the future?
Good luck with whatever yu do
Andy
Oh and I forgot to mention that GPS is a washout but i have an android phone and a garmin for sat nav and do not envisage myself with a 10inch satnav in my old focus lol
This will cause a war here.
I expect demandarin pop up here praising Asus and Barry to counter argue him immediately LOL.
All I can say, I'm on the 6th one now which will be going back for WiFi speed drop and light bleed.
As it stands at the moment there are these categories:
Praisers: got tfp which they are happy with
Indifferent people: happy with whatever faults they have or don't realise that there is some fault.
Hopers: (me) keep getting **** ones but hope to find a golden one. (my hope is growing weak)
Haters: have/had Ttp, extremely unhappy with it, don't believe Asus is/will be delivering good product/service.
All in all, Asus needs to pull finger out of-you-know-what and start delivering consistent quality.
I'd say give it a go, but check thoroughly for faults.
Sent throught the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
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This will cause a war here.
I expect demandarin pop up here praising Asus and Barry to counter argue him immediately LOL.
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Nah, how much does the same thing really need to be repeated? I've gotten as tired of typing it as you have reading it.
OP, yes, the 7.7 does fine with high profile video. The Note 10.1 will too. They both dumped Teg2 for a 1.4GHz Exynos chip. Here's a vid of the 7.7 playing HD video locally and online. If you get the 3G 7.7 it can also be used for GSM calling.
thanks for the reply guys... tbh wifi is my main concern coz my uni's wifi signal is bad enough i need it for the next couple of weeks as i have to read a lot of PDF that is one of the reason i ruled out 7.7. But with this price i think i should wait for the 300 or 700 lol
thank you guys!
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Nah, how much does the same thing really need to be repeated? I've gotten as tired of typing it as you have reading it.
OP, yes, the 7.7 does fine with high profile video. The Note 10.1 will too. They both dumped Teg2 for a 1.4GHz Exynos chip. Here's a vid of the 7.7 playing HD video locally and online. If you get the 3G 7.7 it can also be used for GSM calling.
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note 10.1 is not bad but it took them 6 moths to put out the 7.7 since its announcement i dont how long will sammy takes this time lol
I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
If the New Pad is not an option for you then thats leaves you with the asus line and a few others.
sounds like you have made up your mind already....even if you dont even know it.....
Wait until the iPad 3 benchmarks come out before making your final decision.
Go for the prime! Read the positive thread in my signature. You will make up your mind after reading it.
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I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
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I'd revise my considerations to either the iPad 3 or the tf700.
Basic Systems Engineering Question
noble30 said:
I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
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What system (in order of importance):
1) runs the software that you absolutely need?
2) does the job for the lowest cost (reliability and performance issues can soften this a bit)
3) will continue to do 1 and 2 for the longest period of time
4) provides other benefits that may be of use.
No other analysis makes any sense unless you can buy more than one.
Undead46 said:
Wait until the iPad 3 benchmarks come out before making your final decision.
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Why? These aren't old PC's. This has so little to do with what makes a tablet good to use.
Im in the same boat as you OP , i really am interested in the prime but the wifi issues that ive heard of are unacceptable to me.
hi, i hope you guys can help me to make a decission, im from El Salvador and i want to buy a prime from amazon because my brother will be here in may but i was reading all your post and i dont know... sorry for my english
This is a good thread because I'm also considering the Prime or the TF700.
I just sold my iPad 2 (whew!) and got a decent price for it so I have the money, just trying to figure out what Android tablet to buy.
Seems like I can't find the Prime any where so my decision might be made for me. I think I heard the TF700 wasn't coming out until June! I don't know if I want to wait that long.
Has anyone heard when ASUS will fix their supply problems and will the next batch of Transformer Primes have current wifi, BT and GPS problems fixed? I don't really care about GPS.
Guardsix said:
This is a good thread because I'm also considering the Prime or the TF700.
I just sold my iPad 2 (whew!) and got a decent price for it so I have the money, just trying to figure out what Android tablet to buy.
Seems like I can't find the Prime any where so my decision might be made for me. I think I heard the TF700 wasn't coming out until June! I don't know if I want to wait that long.
Has anyone heard when ASUS will fix their supply problems and will the next batch of Transformer Primes have current wifi, BT and GPS problems fixed? I don't really care about GPS.
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If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
I received my prime today and I am loving it, a lot more than the galaxy tab 10.1 i had. WiFi seems fine to me, works better than my sgs1 and as good a sgs2. Have no complaints at all. Will do a network test later I am Done playing with it.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
I had a prime with the wifi/bt dropoff problem and I returned it since repair solutions seem uncertain. There were many things I loved about the prime, just too much instability in the wifi performance. I presently am watching to see if asus comes up with more consistent results from their manufacturing process or possibly for the tf700 with its redesigned backplate.
I do not like IOS, so the ipad 3 is really not an option for me. I am using an HP Touchpad with CM9 while I wait and watch......
i pre order again the prime from amazon, i'll take the risk because i live in El Salvador and i cant return it or for a refund.. i really want it and since i had my atrix 2 i love android instead ios
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
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My signal is good, the updates that Asus has sent out which has been about 4 has greatly improved wifi.
mrboss23 said:
If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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I read some where on this forum that ASUS had some news coming out on or about the 12th of March. Also, I've heard that new parts have been applied to later Prime tablet builds to fix the wifi/BT problems. Might just wait until Apr.
Thanks for the response.
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
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My wifi has always been fine. It seems its hit and miss with some units or even different wifi router configurations. Personally have had zero problems connecting at university in many places, a couple hospitals and a doctors office, two airports now and two hotels. My macbook pro gets a stronger signal but matches throughput with my prime at home from across the house. The signals are equal between the prime and my Samsung phone.
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My wifi has always been fine. It seems its hit and miss with some units or even different wifi router configurations. Personally have had zero problems connecting at university in many places, a couple hospitals and a doctors office, two airports now and two hotels. My macbook pro gets a stronger signal but matches throughput with my prime at home from across the house. The signals are equal between the prime and my Samsung phone.
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Thanks for the answer. I really want the prime, especially after the "new ipad " announcement. Its a good tablet but i had an ipad 2 so besides the huge difference in screen resolution, its pretty much the same. Ive come to learn that with apple products its good to skip one year. But i really like the prime but i dont want to take any chances over the wifi issues so ill get the new ipad for now and will wait till the tf700 i think its called comes out later.
barondebxl said:
Thanks for the answer. I really want the prime, especially after the "new ipad " announcement. Its a good tablet but i had an ipad 2 so besides the huge difference in screen resolution, its pretty much the same. Ive come to learn that with apple products its good to skip one year. But i really like the prime but i dont want to take any chances over the wifi issues so ill get the new ipad for now and will wait till the tf700 i think its called comes out later.
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The tf700 has now been dubbed the transformer infinity by ASUS.
I thought I'd ask:
I've read that there are gps issues... Is that fixed now?
Are there different models numbers to avoid.. I know some are dual and some are quad core but do roms lack support for different devices?
Any other issues with the device?
Gps is a design problem with the device. Its not even advertised as having GPS anymore.
At this point you should wait for the acer A510
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332962137&sr=1-1
GPS most likely won't work at all and ASUS already removed it from their specs list. I suggest you worry about the weak wifi instead. Probably better to wait for the 700 or look into another tablet.
Hmm he acer is in a week with similar stats... I'll wait and check that out thanks
Rekzer said:
Hmm he acer is in a week with similar stats... I'll wait and check that out thanks
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I also would suggest that you look at the tablets apps on Android vs the tablet apps of the iPad. Needless to say, there isn't even a tablet section for Android. So if tablet optimized apps are important to you....
The Transformer series remains unique in that they offer the integrated keyboard dock. If navigation-quality GPS is important to someone, then yes, the Prime is not currently the best option. Personally, I've found wifi performance to be perfectly acceptable, but some others haven't. Otherwise, the Prime is an excellent tablet offering great performance, excellent battery life, a nice (and uniquely bright) screen, and the ability to be used as an Android netbook when placed in the dock. And then, there are the intangibles such as the fact that ASUS has so far been much, much better at updating their Android tablets than anyone else, by far.
The Acer might end up being a decent enough Tegra 3 tablet, but I'd not be willing to say it's a better option for someone who doesn't care about using his tablet as a navigational device. I'd say, try the Prime, and if wifi works acceptably for everywhere it's needed, then keep it.
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I thought I'd ask:
I've read that there are gps issues... Is that fixed now?
Are there different models numbers to avoid.. I know some are dual and some are quad core but do roms lack support for different devices?
Any other issues with the device?
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First of all, this tablet rocks!!! In my case the GPS works like a charm and the device it self is quite solid!!! the Keybar add on is amazing and adds a lot of extra battery. My two cents.
xGary said:
GPS most likely won't work at all and ASUS already removed it from their specs list. I suggest you worry about the weak wifi instead. Probably better to wait for the 700 or look into another tablet.
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I dont know about your Prime man, but I got one with C2 serial and everything just works, GPS signal may be a bit weaker than other devices I've used, but it works and Iget a lock without WiFi under 30 secs.
Wifi is also strong.. i lose some power once BT music starts streaming but I still have good speeds. Attached some screens:
- Internet while streaming A2DP audio
- Internet without Bluetooth on
- GPS Status with GPS lock
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I dont know about your Prime man, but I got one with C2 serial and everything just works, GPS signal may be a bit weaker than other devices I've used, but it works and Iget a lock without WiFi under 30 secs.
Wifi is also strong.. i lose some power once BT music starts streaming but I still have good speeds. Attached some screens:
- Internet while streaming A2DP audio
- Internet without Bluetooth on
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Do you have to disable wifi to get a lock?
Cozmo85 said:
Do you have to disable wifi to get a lock?
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Mmm no, it works with or without wifi. Its just faster to get a lock with WiFi on because of aGPS .
xGary said:
I also would suggest that you look at the tablets apps on Android vs the tablet apps of the iPad. Needless to say, there isn't even a tablet section for Android. So if tablet optimized apps are important to you....
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Thats very true, im considering leaving for the iPhone 5 to when thats out, software updates on android are a joke, and app quality is huge...
FYI
There is only one model of the Prime. It's the Transformer Prime TF201 Quad Core Tegra 3 CPU
ASUS also makes the Transformer TF101 which is a Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU.
Both offer the docking keyboard but are two complely different animals.
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FYI
There is only one model of the Prime. It's the Transformer Prime TF201 Quad Core Tegra 3 CPU
ASUS also makes the Transformer TF101 which is a Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU.
Both offer the docking keyboard but are two complely different animals.
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Its actually the Asus EEEPad Transformer Prime TF201-B1
I plan on buying a prime Friday, could some one explain to me how they use the prime as a GPS unit while driving so I can test this out when I get mine. Also I currently have an HTC EVO with GPS would using the prime as a GPS unit over the EVO offer any advantages?
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I plan on buying a prime Friday, could some one explain to me how they use the prime as a GPS unit while driving so I can test this out when I get mine. Also I currently have an HTC EVO with GPS would using the prime as a GPS unit over the EVO offer any advantages?
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using prime as GPS navigation device is not optimal. it won't be better than your evo, as far as GPS goes. there will be a big announcement though so stay tuned
advantage of prime, when GPS working properly, would be the larger and higher quality screen size.
don't feed into all the issues hype so much. when you get your device. use it as you would normally any other device you own. then see if and where it falls short at. If you so bent on looking for something wrong, you'll convince yourself its there. even if it isn't.
i'm actually in the same boat you are and i am currently asking the same questions. my issue is price. the ipad2 is going for $360 right now! the transformer prime 32 GB (lowest model) is going for $499. the ipad3 is going for $499. The acer iconia A510 is up for preorder on amazon for $450 for the 32gb model no gps and 5MP camera back 1MP camera front @ 1280 x 800 and this will come out shortly.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10k...TWPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332977290&sr=8-1
so i'm kinda stuck. tegra 3 is much better than the apple ipad2 A5. I'll have to seriously consider the acer iconia but acer has always lacked dev support so i'll be looking to xda developers for help yet again like i am with LG. Thats not necessary a bad thing but it helps when the company supports their own products like asus. I'm also hoping that once asus sees the price on the iconia they will drop the price on the transformer prime to $450 aswell.
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using prime as GPS navigation device is not optimal. it won't be better than your evo, as far as GPS goes. there will be a big announcement though so stay tuned
advantage of prime, when GPS working properly, would be the larger and higher quality screen size.
don't feed into all the issues hype so much. when you get your device. use it as you would normally any other device you own. then see if and where it falls short at. If you so bent on looking for something wrong, you'll convince yourself its there. even if it isn't.
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Thank you kindly demandarin, that actually was my point. But I thought I might just ask to possibly gain an idea as to how the tablet would be more beneficial or even practical than using my phone. I don't mean to start some forum war over GPS, but can't see the level of importance that has been placed on it that has been made in the various Prime forums. I figure if apple can sell millions of tablets without GPS like an Android tablet has, then the vast majority of the tablet buying public could care less about that feature.
I look forward to the big announcement and thank you again for your response.
If you get the transformer get it for the dock. Its a unique and awesome experience. No other tablet will ever come close in that regard. That's the reason to get a prime IMHO and its a damn good reason.
If you just want any tablet you can get the tp as well. Its awesome just as a tablet, but take a look at the other ones such as the ipad as well. If you compare the ipad and the transformer without a dock they're both good tablets with its pros and cons. But if you add the functionality of the dock the prime is on another level.
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If you get the transformer get it for the dock. Its a unique and awesome experience. No other tablet will ever come close in that regard. That's the reason to get a prime IMHO and its a damn good reason.
If you just want any tablet you can get the tp as well. Its awesome just as a tablet, but take a look at the other ones such as the ipad as well. If you compare the ipad and the transformer without a dock they're both good tablets with its pros and cons. But if you add the functionality of the dock the prime is on another level.
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QFT.
The dock is what made me buy this tablet without even thinking. Being able to manually take notes in College + Keyboard when needed + Extra battery + USB and ANOTHER SD card slot just sealed the deal.
jblah said:
i'm actually in the same boat you are and i am currently asking the same questions. my issue is price. the ipad2 is going for $360 right now! the transformer prime 32 GB (lowest model) is going for $499. the ipad3 is going for $499. The acer iconia A510 is up for preorder on amazon for $450 for the 32gb model no gps and 5MP camera back 1MP camera front @ 1280 x 800 and this will come out shortly.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10k...TWPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332977290&sr=8-1
so i'm kinda stuck. tegra 3 is much better than the apple ipad2 A5. I'll have to seriously consider the acer iconia but acer has always lacked dev support so i'll be looking to xda developers for help yet again like i am with LG. Thats not necessary a bad thing but it helps when the company supports their own products like asus. I'm also hoping that once asus sees the price on the iconia they will drop the price on the transformer prime to $450 aswell.
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And I was kinda in the same boat as you, I was told that the prime was in stock so I sold my OG transformer to get it. I also looked at the new ipad. I look at it like this if I want the most apps and games then I it's ipad. But for functionality, not only is it android but transformers in particular. I want the 32gb , the HDMI , the dock (for typing and game controllers), Onlive for games. Also, and I guess this is more subjective I dislike itunes and the ipad UI