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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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Please give me exact instructions! Im having alot of trouble and my original thread did not do to well so Im starting this one. Please help thanks.
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I for one love ICS, not sure why everyone hates it... anywhoooo.
Did you use the EXE through rootzwiki with Odin or did you flash through CWM?
You can always try this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
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Please give me exact instructions! Im having alot of trouble and my original thread did not do to well so Im starting this one. Please help thanks.
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From within ClockWorkMod Recovery, restore your Nandroid backup from before you installed the ICS ROM?
You did make a Nandroid backup, right?
If that's not an option, how about reflashing with a stock Odin? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24507376
jpg71 said:
From within CWR, restore your Nandroid backup from before you installed the ICS ROM?
You did make a Nandroid backup, right?
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This doesn't work for those that used the exe
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This doesn't work for those that used the exe
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What about reflashing from stock via Odin? I added a link to my post above.
What about the EXE prevents the use of CWM Recovery restore? Can't you just install CWM Recovery on it, then restore a previous Nandroid backup?
Yeah i used exe. And i have tried flashing via odin and nothing is working. I could just be doing it wrong. So if you have a idea please give specific directions. I am really missing that overclock kernel right about now. Haha.
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This doesn't work for those that used the exe
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In the Q&A section there are several threads for those who went from the exe odin link to their nandroid GB without issues.
Edit: Here is one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581622
See if this works...It worked for me
After reflashing from stock via Odin, Go back into recovery and wipe data/factory reset.
Good luck
How big is the file that your flashing? Mine is q
10.0kb
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Stock Odin Gingerbread is at least 450MB. Not sure what you are flashing.
The image to go back to stock is over 800mb in size found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
Pick the right image for your carrier, download it... run odin with your phone plugged in, put the .tar file in the [pda] section of Odin and flash. That should return you back to bone stock. After that then do whatever you did prior to installing ICS.
edit: Personally I never restore apps and whatnot from titanium backup after making such a big change, you never can tell what effect restored apps will have on a fresh install.
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How big is the file that your flashing? Mine is q
10.0kb
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I cannot put the full file in. It says it needs to be unzipped or something. How do i get it into odin 1.85
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jb0nd38372 said:
The image to go back to stock is over 800mb in size found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
Pick the right image for your carrier, download it... run odin with your phone plugged in, put the .tar file in the [pda] section of Odin and flash. That should return you back to bone stock. After that then do whatever you did prior to installing ICS.
edit: Personally I never restore apps and whatnot from titanium backup after making such a big change, you never can tell what effect restored apps will have on a fresh install.
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This is how I got back to GB. Remember to clear caches after flashing stock. I as well just reinstall all my apps from the store.
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I cannot put the full file in. It says it needs to be unzipped or something. How do i get it into odin 1.85
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extract/unzip it sir.....
First off... I am new... (Shoot me now, I know...)
I have been looking at these forums all week and really like all of the input / help provided.
I am looking at going back to my system default (OS) and then putting a Custom ROM, (Without all the bloatware)
Reading this thread (and all the others) really helps! I don't hvae time to thank all of you! But seriously! Thanks!
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This doesn't work for those that used the exe
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worked for me !! im back was simple
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In the Q&A section there are several threads for those who went from the exe odin link to their nandroid GB without issues.
Edit: Here is one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581622
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I am aware of those but that should help the Op
Odin works fine...
Flash odin(i use the mashi file in roloracers thread)
Flash cwm
Restore nandroid
The exe had bootloaders or baseband specific to ics or something like that.
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Just unzipped it and it says its 10 mb. Is that the right size? Im going to flash it right now through odin and i will report my results in a few mins.
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dude....read.
Flash that and you may be out one expensive piece of hardware.
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Decided I better ask for help before digging a deeper hole...
I had rooted my Vibrant around September 2010 and tried some ROM at the time, don't remember which one. I didn't keep it for very long...I accepted one or two stock OTA updates thereafter, ending up with 2.1-update1/KA6.
Fast forward to yesterday, when I decided to try to go to Gingerbread so as to be able to install an app I wanted. I chose CM7.2. I presumed I wasn't rooted anymore after the OTA's, so used CWM to run the update.zip that I still had on the SD card from 2010. I did a Titanium backup. I started following the abbreviated directions, then went to the full directions here:http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Vibrant:_Full_Update_Guide
So I actually made two nandroid backups as a result of switching between the two sets of directions and getting distracted after I made the first one.
All went well, except after CM7.2 was booted and everything restored from Titanium, I had the following issues:
1. Messaging was broken
2. Most contacts were missing
3. GPS wouldn't lock
I poked around for fixes and tried some, but it was not looking promising. I decided I didn't really need that new app after all, and today tried to revert to stock. I supposed it would be a simple matter of a nandroid restore followed by a Titanium restore. Unfortunately the nandroid restore failed.
Research revealed this is a known issue with "different hboots".
I then compounded the issue by accidentally pressing the power button while in Recovery. The phone rebooted but stuck on the "Vibrant" splash screen, because of the corrupted restore attempt. No amount of 3-button resets got me back to Recovery. The phone is now connected to my laptop in Download mode.
I think what I now need to do is odin, per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13132341#post13132341
I will then be able to do a nandroid restore and Titanium restore and be back where I started? Any additional hints, warnings, etc?
Thanks in advance.
Be careful about what you backup with Titanium on stock and then restore on CM. Did you backup your Messaging app or any system data? If you restored system apps or data from a TI backup onto CM from stock, that could cause issues.
And about the contacts, where did you store them before? On Google, SIM, or in memory?
I may have clicked, in Titanium, "restore app and data" rather than just "data" for the messaging app. Thinking that may have been the case, I thought that reinstalling the ROM or Google apps zip files might fix it. It didn't. (this was before I soft-bricked)
Since I needed a working phone this afternoon, I went ahead and did the Odin thing. That went well. I am back to JFD and my contacts are back.
If I do a nandroid restore now, followed by a Titanium restore, it should get me back to where I was before starting the move to CM7.2, right? Except I would still have a JFD radio? (because nandroid does not touch that, as I recall)
In that case, finding a KA6 to install with odin would be best? And would there be any point to the nandroid restore if I did that?
GPS took a very long time to lock after going back to JFD, too. I think perhaps I need to try the antenna fix.
Maybe I will give CM7.2 another go...
m3rb said:
I may have clicked, in Titanium, "restore app and data" rather than just "data" for the messaging app. Thinking that may have been the case, I thought that reinstalling the ROM or Google apps zip files might fix it. It didn't. (this was before I soft-bricked)
Since I needed a working phone this afternoon, I went ahead and did the Odin thing. That went well. I am back to JFD and my contacts are back.
If I do a nandroid restore now, followed by a Titanium restore, it should get me back to where I was before starting the move to CM7.2, right? Except I would still have a JFD radio? (because nandroid does not touch that, as I recall)
In that case, finding a KA6 to install with odin would be best? And would there be any point to the nandroid restore if I did that?
GPS took a very long time to lock after going back to JFD, too. I think perhaps I need to try the antenna fix.
Maybe I will give CM7.2 another go...
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If you do a nandroid restore you don't need to do a TI restore as nandroid will restore all your apps and data. (Even down to which wallpaper you're using and Wifi networks)
If the KA6 modem works best for you then go for it.
Where you rooted before you flashed the CWM update.zip? I didn't see that you were...
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whatiznt said:
Where you rooted before you flashed the CWM update.zip? I didn't see that you were...
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You don't need to be rooted, you just need a way to install. For example when you install from stock, you don't need to root it, only flash the custom kernel that has CWM, and then flash, since root is a state of the ROM.
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Huh. Always thought you needed root to flash CWM.
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whatiznt said:
Huh. Always thought you needed root to flash CWM.
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Well, in our case we can use download mode + heimdall to flash a kernel that has the CWM recovery included.
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I have the XSG region (uae) model of the S3 9300 and i've had it for over a week by now, I've successfully rooted it without a problem and i love the phone. However, when i comes to installing custom roms that supposedly improve performance and battery life, it's not working out for me.
So far I've tried the Cyanogen mod and the liquidsmooth mod, using odin. With both of those i repeatedly tried installing them and i even wiped the cache and data, but they just end up sitting there at the boot screen, as if i did all this just to stare at a logo! why the hell don't they work?????????????? help please,
Peace
Not an international GT-i9300?
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qtwrk said:
Not an international GT-i9300?
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Good question man, how do i find out? (i assumed it was cuz i bought it right here in the UAE)
E007 said:
Good question man, how do i find out? (i assumed it was cuz i bought it right here in the UAE)
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Go to about phone , u'll get ur model
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dx09 said:
Go to about phone , u'll get ur model
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it says it's GT-I9300 so i have the international version then eh. ok now what..?
E007 said:
it says it's GT-I9300 so i have the international version then eh. ok now what..?
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If it is GT-I9300, indeed it is an international model (if it is not faked ).
You should be able to, for instance via CWM or Mobile Odin (to keep root), flash a custom rom. Try to do a factory reset wipe/data wipe and install the rom again. For some roms you also might do a "fix permissions" from your custom recovery after you flashed it (but before you restart the phone).
Looks like you are trying to flash zip files in Odin.
STOP NOW!
Ok note we have sorted that, and before you do anything else, take a step back, and do some reading and learning, starting with the rollup sticky at the top of the general thread.
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Looks like you are trying to flash zip files in Odin.
STOP NOW!
Ok note we have sorted that, and before you do anything else, take a step back, and do some reading and learning, starting with the rollup sticky at the top of the general thread.
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Um, i don't get it, what?
E007 said:
Um, i don't get it, what?
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Precisely before flashing read the FAQS and Guides is rule one .
Rule two is backup your EFS folder before flashing instead of crying later .
BASICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
Tl;dr install with mobile odin or clockwork recovery to install ZIP files (most ROMs come in this, also don't extract it), use dekstop odin to install tar files
Ok fair enough, thanks all for the help so far, I'll do a bit of reading then try again. I've had an Iphone for over 2 years that I jailbroke and used from day one. This phone is so much cooler however, I look forward to exploring the improved possibilities..
Ok that's it then, seems the only way something like this MAY work is by wiping the phone clean and starting over, something very inconvenient for my to do.. If down the line I ever get another phone I will try it then, it has been a headache trying it on this one. I decided to give it one more try yesterday after backing up everything, I used titanium backup and also made a back up in recovery mode, I tried fixing permissions after installing the latest cyanogen mod but it didn't make a difference, it just sat at the stupid boot screen, making my phone warm.. I suppose it's okay if one needs a hand warmer!
My woes did not end there however, as I assumed that since I made a backup i could just restore the phone to the way it was. That did not exactly happen unfortunately, clockwork mod restored the system and image just fine, but when it was restoring data it kept stopping at one file and giving me an "error restoring data" bull****. Great, so I boot the phone and now most of the apps don't work and just crash when I try to run them, the only way to fix them is by uninstalling and then re–installing them one by one! Very inconvenient! And to top it off avast told me I have several "problems" found, I assume that is those apps.
So there it is, I shouldn't have done that to my phone yesterday, it worked beautifully until that point, and I was using nobloat to get rid of the unnecessary stuff, make a rom flash pointless, but I was curious.. And there you go, that is my story, I thank you all for trying to help, and I appreciate it really, but I'm done with this nightmare, at least on this phone i am.
Peace
Ok a quick update:
After repeatedly having an occasional issue with the phone, I decided to go for it one more time, this time I followed your advice to the letter, and I'm happy to report that it Worked! I've installed the liquidsmooth Rom and it works great, except for a few issues which I'll talk about in another more relevant thread. Just wanted to say, I apologize for my earlier posts, I was at my wits end at the time!
Since the custom Rom issue has been resolved, I shall lay this thread to rest and hope others learn from it.
Peace.
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Hey everyone. I flashed the CWM touch recovery today, and now I'm getting that damn Verizon unauthorized software message.
I downloaded the stock .pit file and the stock VRALJB image from here
After that succeeds through odin, I still get the verizon issue. What am I missing?
falkon114 said:
Hey everyone. I flashed the CWM touch recovery today, and now I'm getting that damn Verizon unauthorized software message.
I downloaded the stock .pit file and the stock VRALJB image from here
After that succeeds through odin, I still get the verizon issue. What am I missing?
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I've gotten around that, but now the phone stays at the Samsung Note 2 splash screen, and I am unable to boot into recovery, though I can boot into Download...
You obviously took the update. Use the alternate restore found in droidstyle's thread
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You obviously took the update. Use the alternate restore found in droidstyle's thread
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I had done no such thing. Never prompted nor initiated an install so it was stock from the first stock root that was out there.
Anyway, we're all good now, running Jedi X11.
Thanks though.
Mods can close. Was just a matter of flashing the right stock roms in the right order.
falkon114 said:
I had done no such thing. Never prompted nor initiated an install so it was stock from the first stock root that was out there.
Anyway, we're all good now, running Jedi X11.
Thanks though.
Mods can close. Was just a matter of flashing the right stock roms in the right order.
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Glad you got it figured out bud
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falkon114 said:
I had done no such thing. Never prompted nor initiated an install so it was stock from the first stock root that was out there.
Anyway, we're all good now, running Jedi X11.
Thanks though.
Mods can close. Was just a matter of flashing the right stock roms in the right order.
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good deal...fwiw next time follow the stickies in this forum and you will save yourself a bunch of headaches :good:
Yeah. I was panicking and there wasa lot of info out there,didn't know where to start. This website is awesome though,much respect to the people who figure this stuff out.