question about Storage on the note - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

hi guys,
So i got the 16 GB Note. However, i dont understand where all the apps are being saved.
when i go into storage it shows usb storage total 10.84 GB and available 9.51
and then system storage now shows 1.37 GB
what is system storage? and why is USB storage only showing 10.84gb
when i go into the applications > manage applications - it lists all the apps and below it shows system storage 588mb used and 1.4GB free

someone can correct me but I believe apps are probably being loaded into system storage via default and the related application data such as music/photos/etc on the usb storage.
The NOTE is sold as having 16GB internal memory which is made up of 2GB system memory (some call it phone memory) and USB Storage (/sdcard) of about 11GB. What is using the other 3GB left of the 16GB??? Don't really know but probably data w/the preloaded apps?

how can i check if thats the case?
or how can i change that?
the system storage is very limited.

I see system apps in system/data/apps......now in sd card there is a extension with the da_g kernel I noticed...where when pluged in...all recovery backups go to into a folder named clockwork...and I see a download folder where my new downloads are going...so I have 2 folders now of clockwork and dcim and download.....but the sd is through a folder named external sd ...its almost like its backwards.....messed up I know....
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intolaomair said:
how can i check if thats the case?
or how can i change that?
the system storage is very limited.
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actually the system storage of 2GB is more than enough as it is just used to store the applications themselves.

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[q] Tablet storage getting low, Internal Storage practically unused

The problem is the "Tablet Storage"(Total space 16.12gb) or the storage that comes up in USB mass storage is almost full while the Internal Storage(11.81gb) still has around 8gb left.
I already moved all apps into Internal but I guess the real problem is that most android apps downloads extra data into the sdcard while the apps themselves are very small in size.
Hmm I guess I answered my own question. Any thoughts?
harrykh said:
The problem is the "Tablet Storage"(Total space 16.12gb) or the storage that comes up in USB mass storage is almost full while the Internal Storage(11.81gb) still has around 8gb left.
I already moved all apps into Internal but I guess the real problem is that most android apps downloads extra data into the sdcard while the apps themselves are very small in size.
Hmm I guess I answered my own question. Any thoughts?
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i think that is too stupid from htc to use more than half of 32 gb storage for applications, to fill it, we must install more than 1000 apps :silly::silly:
but i also think that it can be solved by re-partition of sd card and we must only ask custom rom maker to provide it in next version
try installing some of these apps to delete junk files
Experienced the same problem so I installed root explorer and manually searched for unwanted files and then freed allmsot 2 GBs of space. A lot of work though.
good luck

Difference between "Device memory" and "USB storage".

Hello everyone,
Whats is the difference between device memory and USB storage?
As far as i see all the apps installed on the Device memory and all the photos and other files are located on the USB storage.
I had "insufficient storage available" problem which I fixed by uninstalling apps and that cleared some space on "Device memory" which has only p1.97GB of space, and on the other hand "USB storage" has 11.50GB of sace.
Is there a way to install apps on the USB storage?
I tried apps2SD but i see its only for external SD card.
Thanks in advance.
Device memory is for your apps and system etc. Usb memory is the mass storage for all your pics and music and for whatever else your apps might need space for.
They are basically partitions and as far as I know, there is no (safe) way to change them.
Btw apps2sd is for moving apply data to an external memory card.
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Device Memory is referring to the ~2GB system storage partition on the device, which is part of the total 16GB of internal storage. Another ~12GB is taken up by what's being referred to as USB Storage, and refers to another partition of the 16GB of internal storage. If you have an SD card, that'll be referred to as the External SD Card.
Your system storage ("Device Memory") is located at root /
USB Storage is located at /sdcard
If you have an SD card in your device, it'll be located at /emmc/
Please do note though that these locations may/probably do change between ROMs, and I only know for certain that these correct within CyanogenMod 9.
screamworks
screamworks said:
Device Memory is referring to the ~2GB system storage partition on the device, which is part of the total 16GB of internal storage. Another ~12GB is taken up by what's being referred to as USB Storage, and refers to another partition of the 16GB of internal storage. If you have an SD card, that'll be referred to as the External SD Card.
Your system storage ("Device Memory") is located at root /
USB Storage is located at /sdcard
If you have an SD card in your device, it'll be located at /emmc/
Please do note though that these locations may/probably do change between ROMs, and I only know for certain that these correct within CyanogenMod 9.
screamworks
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Just FYI, external SD at /emmc is for AOSP/AOKP ROMs.
For Sammy stock ROMs, external SD will be at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd. (This is Samsung's brilliance. Not sure why they did this...)
ctomgee said:
Just FYI, external SD at /emmc is for AOSP/AOKP ROMs.
For Sammy stock ROMs, external SD will be at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd. (This is Samsung's brilliance. Not sure why they did this...)
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Ah, thanks for that! If I'd given it more thought, I probably would have figured that out. But alas, brain is obviously not functioning. Cheers.
screamworks
Rizur said:
Device memory is for your apps and system etc. Usb memory is the mass storage for all your pics and music and for whatever else your apps might need space for.
They are basically partitions and as far as I know, there is no (safe) way to change them.
Btw apps2sd is for moving apply data to an external memory card.
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Why is it that when I take the option to move some apps that can be moved from device storage to USB storage I don't see the used space going any higher? please check out this image for an example. the figures don't seem to add up with the used figure against the apps with the ticks that have been moved to USB storage.
I still can't find an answer to issue raised here. How can I use USB storage instead of device memory?

Internal sd or external sd?

Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market), which needs root access.
gb.yolo said:
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market)
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Actually what I want is to use internal SD because I have 16 gb free and I dont want to install apps to my external sd card because when I unplug it I wont have chance to use apps since it is installed sd card beyond of it I wanna use my sd card just for my photos and some musics. So should I take a rest if it will install apps directly to internal sd?
edit : what is the reason that when I install apps total space 1.97 gb decreases? if I am installing apps to internal storage where it has 11.5 gb ?
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
benveq said:
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
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benveq said:
Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
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Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
benveq said:
Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
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1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
Jokesy said:
1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
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Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
benveq said:
Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
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Good
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
undead_assault said:
Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
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Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
Jokesy said:
Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
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hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
undead_assault said:
hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
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That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
Jokesy said:
That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
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I tried using Link2SD and Titanium Backup, but after reboot normally, they are still gone. I tried Smart Launcher, but they stil didnt appear. Because they were listed as uninstalled. The files are there, but the system doesnt load them. Must still do hot reboot first before the system loads them.
I guess I'll take 1 example for disappearing app, this information taken from Link2SD (after Hot Boot):
Temple Run 2 Version 1.2.1 (on SD Card)
http://i.imgur.com/A9FHzpi.png
What actually Hot Boot does and normal reboot does not?

[Q] Internal Storage-Internal SD card

Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
Hello,
Yes, internal storage (or system storage in my phone) is where all the apps are installed.
And internal SD card (known better as internal storage) is where photos, videos etc etc are stored.
This is the only thing i know..
About the moving of apps, i recommend you go to settings -> applications and to the app you want to move and check if you actually can move it. (yes, there's an option to move that app to Sd card) My gues it wont since you need an external storage (or known as SD CARD) if you want to move apps.
If you can't install apps from google play, there are mostly two explanations:
1. Actually insufficient storage. To prevent this, free up memory from system storage by deleting apps/games etc.
2. .odex file causes the erroe. To prevent this, (you need to be rooted) goto /data/app in file manager and find <The app you want to install from google play>.odex
Eg. for second alternative.
If you want to install Swiftkey but get an error. Goto /data/app and delete swiftkey.odex
Internal storage, different names
orr77746 said:
Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
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There the same thing. You can verify by checking the size of the two & the contents to see if they show the same thing.
It would be helpful to know what version of Android your running since this affects how things are displayed.
To find that information open press the menu or home button (bottom left),
Settings
at the very bottom is "About Device"
Look for Android Version
Within most versions of Android (I have 4.1.2 in front of me) what is called "sdcard" or "internal storage" or "internal sdcard" is actually a partition of the device's total internal storage. Unless you are flashing ROMs or running root, you won't see these other paritions.
The internal storage or sdcard is also called sdcard0 or /storage/sdcard0 depending on your version of Android.
The physical sdcard (external storage) is sometimes called /emmc or /extSdCard In later versions you can also get to it as /storage/sdcard1
Hope that helps
Ed
i am running android 4.0.4
and i understand that i cant move apps to there..
i will just buy an external SD card
you helped me alot
Thanks everybody!!

Memory card vs Internal Storage

i, my current internal storage is almost full (80%) and that has made my phone quite slow. I dont have anything major in internal storage except the apps and whatsapp data. All pictures and music are on the 8gb memory card. I was wondering if i could transfer all my apps to the memory card. Is it possible to do that and install new apps on memory card rather than internal storage?
P.s My phone isnt rooted
asad.kazmi7 said:
i, my current internal storage is almost full (80%) and that has made my phone quite slow. I dont have anything major in internal storage except the apps and whatsapp data. All pictures and music are on the 8gb memory card. I was wondering if i could transfer all my apps to the memory card. Is it possible to do that and install new apps on memory card rather than internal storage?
P.s My phone isnt rooted
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There's absolutely no problem with pushing apps to the SD card. Open Settings -> Apps -> Choose the App you want to push to SD card -> storage -> change. With this process you can nearly move all of your Apps to the SD card. This will free up your space ^^
EinBier said:
There's absolutely no problem with pushing apps to the SD card. Open Settings -> Apps -> Choose the App you want to push to SD card -> storage -> change. With this process you can nearly move all of your Apps to the SD card. This will free up your space ^^
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Hii, thanks for your response, tho i couldnt find the change option in storage
Do you run Android 6?
EinBier said:
Do you run Android 6?
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Yes
This is because some of the apps are pre-installed like Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, Clean Master... for these you won't be able to see the "Change Storage", in this case you can uninstall the pre-installed Apps and re-install it. But make sure your default Storage location is selected as "SD Card" instead of "Internal Storage".
For the rest of the Apps you can change the Storage... I have also done the same with many apps and freed up almost 2 GB of Space.
I hope it will be helpful to you.
asad.kazmi7 said:
i, my current internal storage is almost full (80%) and that has made my phone quite slow. I dont have anything major in internal storage except the apps and whatsapp data. All pictures and music are on the 8gb memory card. I was wondering if i could transfer all my apps to the memory card. Is it possible to do that and install new apps on memory card rather than internal storage?
P.s My phone isnt rooted
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i dont think emui will allow you to change app download storage to sd card, you have to root and be running on a custom rom (based on stock android, may be.) to easily move apps to sdcard, .
or you can manage the sapce by clearing app datas for not so important apps, clearing junk files, move all your media to sdcard , thats the best option..
thilak devraj said:
i dont think emui will allow you to change app download storage to sd card, you have to root and be running on a custom rom (based on stock android, may be.) to easily move apps to sdcard, .
or you can manage the sapce by clearing app datas for not so important apps, clearing junk files, move all your media to sdcard , thats the best option..
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Is there any custom rom based on stock android available?
asad.kazmi7 said:
Is there any custom rom based on stock android available?
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i dont think so,
asad.kazmi7 said:
Is there any custom rom based on stock android available?
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LineageOS13 is available for Honor 7.
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