OK, I'm pretty pissed, now... - Motorola Droid RAZR

http://m.androidcentral.com/motorola-updates-their-ics-list-razr-get-ics-q2-everywhere-us
I understand there are differences between GSM/CDMA, but GODAMMIT, this is getting REDICULOUS!
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Damn sucks big time.
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The update is...there is no update.
Last I checked, there isn't actually anything new here, the page has said CDMA is To Be Announced and GSM is Q2 for ages.
Honestly, I suspect CDMA ICS is going to deployed at more or less the same time, and has been presented this way to stop people blaming Verizon directly for any potential delays. Most of the other regions have the RAZR offered through multiple carriers, meaning it's less a specific carrier's 'fault'.

Why do we need official ICS when we have great working ICS builds already? Its not as though it's going to unlock the bootloaders.

flashman2002 said:
Why do we need official ICS when we have great working ICS builds already? Its not as though it's going to unlock the bootloaders.
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An official ICS kernel with working hardware acceleration would be nice, for one. As would less brutally short battery life.

flashman2002 said:
Why do we need official ICS when we have great working ICS builds already? Its not as though it's going to unlock the bootloaders.
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ummm? Our bootloader is locked because of sh*tty moto, so what we really need is an updated kernel that doesn't suck so much, including updated drivers, hardware acceleration, and a ROM that doesn't have major bugs like the front facing camera actually working.
If ICS doesn't come out by the 1st of May then I'm dropping this phone for something else. I can see now why so many people hate Motorola. The going price on eBay is pretty high for the maxx, so it'll be worth it from my point of view considering I got the 2 year discounted price of $250 an they're currently selling at $500+

flashman2002 said:
Why do we need official ICS when we have great working ICS builds already? Its not as though it's going to unlock the bootloaders.
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It's not about bootloaders, and I'm pretty tired of hearing about bootloaders, honestly.
Nothing works better than an OTA from a manufacturer. NOTHING. You can port all you want, but nothing will work 100% unless the manufacturers release an official OTA. Believe me, I know. As a recovering Flashaholic. My RAZR is stock, outta the box, but the PROMISE that was made by Motorola was that we would be the first to receive the ICS update, and obviously that's been broken...
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IP IHI II IL said:
It's not about bootloaders, and I'm pretty tired of hearing about bootloaders, honestly.
Nothing works better than an OTA from a manufacturer. NOTHING. You can port all you want, but nothing will work 100% unless the manufacturers release an official OTA. Believe me, I know. As a recovering Flashaholic. My RAZR is stock, outta the box, but the PROMISE that was made by Motorola was that we would be the first to receive the ICS update, and obviously that's been broken...
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Okay well coming from the Droid Incredible, where the bootloader wasn't locked down and developers could easily update kernels and radio's, I highly disagree. Stock ROM was laggy and the kernel from the OTA was poorly updated with old drivers. With it unlocked, developers were able to constantly add the latest and fastest drivers, latest linux codes, optimizing performance and battery life, and adding a few amazing features such as call recording and various governors.
So what I'm getting at is the bootloader being locked IS a big deal for performance, battery life and features for your phone.
But ya I'm not expecting the bootloader to be unlocked with ICS (is anyone expecting that?) but the update will mean that moto will be updating their kernel and add things to the phone that developers otherwise can't do because of the bootloader being locked, and that's that part that gets everyone annoyed, and of course it gets even worse then they push back that update without even an estimate on when it will be done.

IP IHI II IL said:
It's not about bootloaders, and I'm pretty tired of hearing about bootloaders, honestly.
Nothing works better than an OTA from a manufacturer. NOTHING. You can port all you want, but nothing will work 100% unless the manufacturers release an official OTA. Believe me, I know. As a recovering Flashaholic. My RAZR is stock, outta the box, but the PROMISE that was made by Motorola was that we would be the first to receive the ICS update, and obviously that's been broken...
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Problem solved, get rid of your phone! ICS is working great with what we have available. Yes, an official would be even better, and that will come. Quit crying about it because you crying on the forum makes no difference to any so called promise that Verizon and Motorola didn't make directly to you.

flashman2002 said:
Problem solved, get rid of your phone! ICS is working great with what we have available. Yes, an official would be even better, and that will come. Quit crying about it because you crying on the forum makes no difference to any so called promise that Verizon and Motorola didn't make directly to you.
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LOL... OK. ALL developers & manufacturers troll on XDA... if you don't know, now ya know, youngin'
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IP IHI II IL said:
LOL... OK. ALL developers & manufacturers troll on XDA... if you don't know, now ya know, youngin'
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Why do people on the internet always go to age for a put down? Quit *****ing. You are a clown to think your rant is going to make any difference. The only reason you ranted on the internet was to male yourself feel better that you bought a phone that is locked down by a company with that exact history. :thumbdown:
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flashman2002 said:
Why do people on the internet always go to age for a put down? Quit *****ing. You are a clown to think your rant is going to make any difference. The only reason you ranted on the internet was to male yourself feel better that you bought a phone that is locked down by a company with that exact history. :thumbdown:
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Wasn't a rant, actually... It's been voiced quite a few times, but ok... Youngin...
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It's an OS, folks, not the cure for cancer. When we get it, we get it... The .173 update is working pretty nicely for now. If it ain't good enough, root & ROM your phone or EBay it and get a GNex.

funny rant on XDA is funny

onslaught86 said:
The update is...there is no update.
Last I checked, there isn't actually anything new here, the page has said CDMA is To Be Announced and GSM is Q2 for ages.
Honestly, I suspect CDMA ICS is going to deployed at more or less the same time, and has been presented this way to stop people blaming Verizon directly for any potential delays. Most of the other regions have the RAZR offered through multiple carriers, meaning it's less a specific carrier's 'fault'.
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Q2 is next month
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IP IHI II IL said:
Wasn't a rant, actually... It's been voiced quite a few times, but ok... Youngin...
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You truly are a moron. Get over yourself. Maybe do something with your life like I have and somebody might actually care about what you say. Otherwise you might as well shut the hell up because you have no clue.
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The update will come also for the CDMA phones and for you people I sure hope in Q2. But even knowing the fact that I am owning a GSM phone I would rater wait a few months and have an os that is perfect and mostly bugfree. Seems more important to me than that they rush it and give us an os with bugs they could have taken out just by waiting a few weeks/months.
Just a thought.

its painful as hell, but i lol'd.

Thought I might share this.
" Thank you for your interest in Motorola products. I am responding to the complaint that you filed with Better Business Bureau regarding the Motorola RAZR and Ice Cream Sandwich.
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR to ICS during the first half of 2012, and will provide more precise guidance within 6 weeks post public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google. We are all looking forward to ICs upgrade but to date the upgrade is in evaluation and planning phase.
Thank You, Dorothy Hodges Corporate Consumer Advocacy Office"
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As long as we get ics that's all that matters. I'm in the US so of course I'm irritated that ics is still in development and planning stages but as I always say the good things are worth the wait.
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Official VZW ICS OTA by end of the month?

I was just in my Verizon store to get a case and see what the Nexus was all about (it felt cheap and plasticity, and is not as appealing as the RAZR.) While there I asked the rep about an issue with it not showing all of my contacts, but when they call it displays their name. She said there was a MAJOR update coming for the RAZR by the end of the month. My question was if it was for bug fixes or ICS, she said ICS! I'm not really going to mark my calendar, but it would be nice, and that also falls into Motos own 6 week from source claim. even if it is bug fixes, it is nice to see the support!
While there, we started talking about rooting and roming, I asked if she had the Fastboot files, she went and checked her "flashing computer" and said they were not available to her. Not sure if its because it is not a big enough store, but it is one of the bigger stores in the area.
It was nice to see a VZW rep be interested in rooting and roming, and not the instant shoot down that I have come to expect.
I tend not to trust sales reps, but you got me salivating... Lol
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IP IHI II IL said:
I tend not to trust sales reps, but you got me salivating... Lol
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This guy is just trolled the hell out of my thread which informed people of the same thing. Now he's salivating. Astonishing.
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This guy is just trolled the hell out of my thread which informed people of the same thing. Now he's salivating. Astonishing.
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Yeah the thread that had no place in the RAZR forum you dimwit.
Anyways would be great to get ICS for this great phone sooner rather than later
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The pending soak update is 57 MB. It's definitely not ICS.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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dj_spore said:
I was just in my Verizon store to get a case and see what the Nexus was all about (it felt cheap and plasticity, and is not as appealing as the RAZR.) While there I asked the rep about an issue with it not showing all of my contacts, but when they call it displays their name. She said there was a MAJOR update coming for the RAZR by the end of the month. My question was if it was for bug fixes or ICS, she said ICS! I'm not really going to mark my calendar, but it would be nice, and that also falls into Motos own 6 week from source claim. even if it is bug fixes, it is nice to see the support!
While there, we started talking about rooting and roming, I asked if she had the Fastboot files, she went and checked her "flashing computer" and said they were not available to her. Not sure if its because it is not a big enough store, but it is one of the bigger stores in the area.
It was nice to see a VZW rep be interested in rooting and roming, and not the instant shoot down that I have come to expect.
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I was also told the same thing this morning!! I didn't post anything because I tend not to believe them but he was pretty sure of it.
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She didn't know what she was talking about. Motorola themselves have said that it might be 6 months away. Any update that is this month is going to be 4 bug fixes only.
I confirmed with my friend that works at Moto Mobility. ICS is not ready to push to the RAZR.
He did say they were having better results than expected....but even he didn't have a solid date on when it would be ready.
He did say there was an update coming, but that it wasn't "major" it's just some tweeks to security and a couple "other" things.
Can you say gullible???
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Picked up the new razr yesterday, and the young salesman assured me it already had ICS! Nice kid, so I didn't contradict or dispel his enthusiasm.....
GB 2.3.5.
yeah.... nooby boobies lol
LOL good luck. I doubt it is coming anytime soon. I say march or april the earliest.
*fingers in my ears* LALALALA-I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALALA - I LOVE NOOBIE BOOBIES! LALALALALALA ICS THIS MONTH! LALALALALALA...
I know it's childish, but whatever... I WANNIT!
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If they can cram ICS in 57 MB.
It's probably an update with some bugs fixed, maybe a new radio, enhancements......because the Thunderbolts are getting a small update too at about 36mb.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...n-volume-exchange-and-more-sorry-no-ics-here/
i'm sad to hear that everyone said, i'm a 912 user in china,with the BL locked ,i can't use 3g..

ICS on RAZR official page?

is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
Don't forget word "upgradable" in there...
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It is real but states ics upgradeable. We all know they plan to roll it out soon. Exactly when is anybody's guess.
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orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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^This guy.
orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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GOD, Thought it could be something different than I monitor every few hours on this page with lot of hopes on ICS.... ... Same old thing....
'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
Sporttster said:
'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
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Surely not in '13!! The update that leaked at least should tide us until Spring or Summer when they actually release it. If it isn't out by then it will be a big disappointment for me.
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) UPGRADABLE
orateam said:
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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Seriously. The reps at the corporate store I was at were when they saw an unbranded, GSM RAZR; I was in there for the car dock.
Icecream sandwich update should be very quick on motorola phones as google owns the company now
and the way they have released i think 4 updates already within 1 month is very good for customers so ICS cant be that far away id imagine
GaroRobe said:
[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
orateam said:
i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
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I know someone who works for Verizon corporate (not retail). Their techs definitely do have access to pre-release updates. It's how Verizon begins testing things before pushing them out to the public. He told me that the main reason Verizon takes its time with updates is that they test everything very thoroughly before release to limit calls to customer service once the OTA is pushed out. They want to make sure as many bugs as possible are squashed ahead of time. It's a wise angle to take, but doesn't leave "normal consumers" feeling all that great about things.
And what about retail version, who test it if there is no carrier? I suppose Motorola itself, now compare its speed (and stability) with your carrier - who will win?

[Official] Motorola ICS upgrade news for (Photon/Atrix/Atrix2/Xoom2/Razr/ect.)

Click HERE for the official link to Motorola's Ice Cream Sandwich development stages and estimated release dates.
yes i know motorola are complete liars but its the only *OFFICIAL* information we have right now and you guys can keep checking back HERE for updated information rather than the "what he said she said" crap i keep reading.
thanks
Thank goodness for Cyanogen 9. Q3 is to far off. I'll be getting ICS this weekend now that it's in beta with minor bugs.
I can't wait.
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Dsparil said:
Thank goodness for Cyanogen 9. Q3 is to far off. I'll be getting ICS this weekend now that it's in beta with minor bugs.
I can't wait.
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yea im going to do the same thing once my phone comes in. i just signed up for sprint today and my phone should arrive by saturday. last motorola android i owned was the cliq and it took them well over a year with the same promise to bring 2.0 or 2.1 to that phone from 1.5 after several delays. cyanogenmod had a stable release for that phone several months before the official update came out. by then i didnt even have the phone anymore lol switched to the mytouch3g slide.
By the time ICS is released in Q3......Jelly Bean should be out in the alpha stage
...just saying...
Maybe it will get here a bit sooner. At least this newer info will get rid of all the many posts about "Will Photon get ICS?". Very annoying. I never doubted for a second the Photon wouldn't get ICS. Google wants this on all devices capable of running it and have said so from the beginning. ICS is just slow rolling out it seems.
Anyways, for those of us that need full functionality CM9 isn't an option yet. One of the great things about the Photon is HDMI out and Webtop feature. I am not willing to lose those and as I understand there is no way to activate Webtop on CM9 yet. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, 4g I can live without (not in my area) and having the camera working now is a great step to final.
Al Sharpton will be President before Photon sees ICS! Im getting SGS11 Note with it! Why the he'll AT&T is selling with GB i'm clueless! Oh, get out and vote for Rev Al!
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dsims7_2000 said:
Al Sharpton will be President before Photon sees ICS! Im getting SGS11 Note with it! Why the he'll AT&T is selling with GB i'm clueless! Oh, get out and vote for Rev Al!
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Ok....I just have to ask. What does this thread & ICS have to do with Al Sharpton?
Also, if the Note only has GB and you want it cause you say the Photon won't get ICS in forever than why do you want a Note?? Sorry but your post seems like just jibbity jabber. How much coffee do you drink in the morning??
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Ok....I just have to ask. What does this thread & ICS have to do with Al Sharpton?
Also, if the Note only has GB and you want it cause you say the Photon won't get ICS in forever than why do you want a Note?? Sorry but your post seems like just jibbity jabber. How much coffee do you drink in the morning??
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Ok, let me clarify. We all know Al will never be president, therefore, I believe although announced, Moto will pull the plug at some point before Q3.
Next, the AT&T note has GB, the Sprint Note, expected this summer, is expected (again expected!) to have ICS more over to top AT&T!
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Ok, let me clarify. We all know Al will never be president, therefore, I believe although announced, Moto will pull the plug at some point before Q3.
Next, the AT&T note has GB, the Sprint Note, expected this summer, is expected (again expected!) to have ICS more over to top AT&T!
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Ah...thanks for the clarification. That makes sense. However, the Photon will get official ICS.
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Ah...thanks for the clarification. That makes sense. However, the Photon will get official ICS.
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Sure, just like I got WiMAX 4G! Lets be honest, who here keeps a phone more than a year? If they pushed this to Q2 maybe, but for us to wait with all the new hardware coming out WITH ICS, I'm surprised Moto made the announcment, they could have saved the development work, but we will see I'm sure. And even with me getting the Note, I'm not getting rid of the Photon anytime soon. like 2013 Q2 if my income tax is late, haha!
As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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Lets be honest, who here keeps a phone more than a year?
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I do.
It is a business phone so it is up to Sprint on when they will allow us an upgrade. If they are now on a 2-year upgrade plan for even businesses than I will for sure have the Photon for over a year. We can't afford to keep upgrading otherwise.
Also, wasn't it you who was just complaining in another thread about not having WiMax and "what if I want to keep my Photon for 10 years?" point? If you don't keep a phone for more than a year why was that even a valid point on your end?
Not trying to be harsh with these questions, just observations and curiousity mainly.
MadFlava said:
As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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You know how many people gave me negative reviews on my last 3 or 4 devices and I was cool with all of them! Besides, I will play hard for 29 days and if I don't like, get my money minus $25.00 restocking fee!
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Pørvânœ Îcē Crême Sändwhīch.
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Side Note: I have no freakin idea what I just said or in what language it was in.
I hope but doubt that their ICS will be as barebone as CM9
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Pørvânœ Îcē Crême Sändwhīch.
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Side Note: I have no freakin idea what I just said or in what language it was in.
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Google Translator says Swedish but since I lived there and speak a little, Swedish is not it. I know German when I see it. I know French when I see it. SO, I'm going with Finnish (don't look Russian either!)
tsdeaton said:
yes i know motorola are complete liars but its the only *OFFICIAL* information we have right now and you guys can keep checking back.
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stupid comment
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stupid comment
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lol how so?
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As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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You mean the SGS2 where they are testing official ICS leaks right now as we speak?
I've not had a single issue with mine (nor with my wife's Photon beyond a few kinks which were worked out fairly quickly).
HTC? Really? After the 3D and assorted crap (Design anyone?) I'm beginning to think the og Evo was a fluke. Thanks, but no thanks.

DROID X2 not receiving ICS! (PERHAPS IT'S OFFICIAL?!)

See this article:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...-of-phones-to-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Looks like everybody in the DX2 community will have to wait for an AOSP ICS from somebody!
Discuss!
EDIT: Apparently it's not official according to some XDA user's opinions, but I'm pretty sure it is official. In that list they didn't only mention 4G LTE devices, they also listed the Incredible 2 and the Rhyme which are both 3G devices. And also, the DROID Charge is 4G and it's left off the list. It's an assumption but I believe the list to be complete. Motorola and Verizon have no obligation to upgrade to ICS, even if the DX2 is within the 18 month upgrade period. Their 18 month upgrade period never stated how far upgrades would go and it has been upgraded multiple times already. I honestly don't mind if everybody gets their hopes up for Motorola/Verizon to release ICS for the DX2 because it's only going to let you down. If I'm wrong, fine. That's good for everybody with a DX2! I don't know why people have to come to this thread and act like hard-asses to get their point across. I was only releasing some news.
well the Verizon press release states that it is a list of 4G devices that will be upgraded.
then again the dinc2 isn't 4G, right?
I think that's the phone I should have gotten instead of this X2
Well, ever since I got my tablet and the ICS update on it, I haven't been doing much on my DX2 anyway. Shoot, I might just go back to a cheap flip phone.
Really liked the DX2, but I just don't understand why Motorola kicked it to the curb!
Yeah dude, that's just the 4g phones that are getting upgraded. Haven't said which 3g phones are getting it yet.
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Frankly I'm not surprised. I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install. My phone is always starved for RAM.
Don't want to bring any hope into this, but I'll be using something called a brain here for this. These are devices confirmed as of now to get it and on the Moto Upgrade site still lists the devices that are being evaluated to get it.
This is really just VZW rehashing what phone manufacturers have already announced, except they are directing this specifically at their customers. Nothing here we didn't already know, really. Of course they are going to try to get it going on the 4G devices first, that is this year's breadwinner.
I'm kinda over ICS now. lol
Yeah seems like it was all a pipe dream. Development is pretty quiet now but it's ok I'm content with CM7
CM7 DX2
**** it....
I think its the Verizon way of saying they aren't bothering upgrading any 3G devices. They just spent Billions building a 4G network that is sitting there doing next to nothing (except crashing every now and then). They need to get folks migrated to 4G ASAP.
Alan Wolfe said:
I think its the Verizon way of saying they aren't bothering upgrading any 3G devices. They just spent Billions building a 4G network that is sitting there doing next to nothing (except crashing every now and then). They need to get folks migrated to 4G ASAP.
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Well they are updating the DINC2.
list of Verizon Wireless 4G LTE devices currently scheduled to be upgraded.
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this just 4g, they aren't going say anything about other phones till, the 4g phones are upgraded
I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install.
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there's enough ram, not a lot
if a phone can run gingerbread it can run ICS, it's just a matter time and money, to make it work
jumping the gun syndrome
This is a classic case of the "jumping the gun syndrome".
1. The article says:
"We will continue to update this list as additional details become available throughout the year. Also, follow @VZWNews on Twitter for additional upgrade announcements."
2. The only Moto devices on the list are those that Moto confirmed a while back. I highly doubt Motorola is doing "planning and evaluation" on a bazillion devices just to ditch each and everyone of them.
Calm down gentlemen and ladies. Let's not get our panties in a bunch! Finally got a chance to say that...
Bad News!!!!
donlad said:
See this article:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...-of-phones-to-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Looks like everybody in the DX2 community will have to wait for an AOSP ICS from somebody!
Discuss!
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Sweet, when the other Moto phones receive it we will have upgrade eligibility anyhow.....your point?
This isn't my DX2
iCurmudgeon said:
Frankly I'm not surprised. I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install. My phone is always starved for RAM.
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I'm sure there's plenty, blur is just a pile of junk.
Mr One 2 said:
**** it....
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+ 1......................
Kind of lost all hope of an OTA update awhile ago.
My faith is in our developers now, not Motorola or Verizon.
heh I also wonder what inc2 would have been like =)
when comparing them in the store i liked the DX2's camera better (and larger screen), should've took the warning it tried to give me when the first phone the employee gave me froze and didn't come back on lol
wow I just read the article fully and noticed bionic gets it, well that's just salting the wound... good thing non-commercial developers make better ****ing firmware than the official ones do anyway =(

Cut the crap. What are our chances of getting Jelly Bean?

So, I'm sure it's not only me wondering this... Are we getting this thing ever?
most likely, lots of "feature updates" and motorola is 'part of' google now. gotta think they will support their flagship phone of 2012
Of course, even if we are going to get it we won't get it for at least another year, maybe year and a half.
I hope that with the release of the pdk the thing will go better, but i don't belive that we will get it soon
Zadabest said:
So, I'm sure it's not only me wondering this... Are we getting this thing ever?
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10 Buy device
20 LOVE device
30 Learn new OS coming
40 HATE device
50 Whine until update arrives
60 GOTO 20
70 END
Official from Verizon/Motorola: <50%
From the devs: >95%
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amfetamine said:
Official from Verizon/Motorola: <50%
From the devs: >95%
Sent from nowhere via nothing by nobody
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Irl, 0%
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ExtraDan said:
Irl, 0%
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Reading post after post from you, it seems you're just a very negative person. Clearly you're anguishing over the disappointment your Razr has given you. I suggest you buy an iPhone.
sRDennyCrane said:
Reading post after post from you, it seems you're just a very negative person. Clearly you're anguishing over the disappointment your Razr has given you. I suggest you buy an iPhone.
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No, razr is the best phone I could have compare to my other Android devices, and I very happy with my razr.
The big disappointed I got, came from Motorola's developers and service.
And, no... Ios is bad, has no many options,the system designed for little kids/not intelligent people/lazy hoes/people who can't handle complicated os and etc.
I would never buy such low level device like iphone or ipad..
Iphone is like a console, like xbox or ps3.
And android is like pc.
Who's better? The pc.
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I'm assuming RAZR will get it, it is still one of the most up to date phones motorola have on offer.
Based on the ICS release I'd guess we get it rolling out about the same time the Nexus devices get Kola Kubes.
Hopefully at the same time motorola initially promise to keep the bootloader locked then decide to change their mind, completely ignore the promise and do the opposite.
Honestly, I think by the time we get it we'll all be ready to upgrade to a new phone if we haven't already. I'm gonna say Q2 2013...
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IP IHI II IL said:
Honestly, I think by the time we get it we'll all be ready to upgrade to a new phone if we haven't already. I'm gonna say Q2 2013...
\\Carved into this thread with my RAZR//
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No no no.. 2013? Motorola would never do such a thing... Be positive! Be realistic! We going to get this on 2019!!
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I don't really have much faith in Motorola updating our devices anytime soon. They're failing to meet their own release schedules for ICS so I don't see how they will have JB out anytime soon.
I was looking for a decent tablet and hoping to get a Prime but the Nexus 7 hits the price point perfectly so I ordered a 16gb one. Hopefully there isn't an issue with Google's release/shipping date so I can enjoy JB faster.
Considering how long it took them to push ICS I seriously doubt we will ever get and official Jelly Bean OTA update. Knowing Verizon they are probably going to EOL the RAZR/MAXX not long after the RAZR HD gets released. Constantly releasing new phones brings them more money... not supporting phones they have out already. The devs on the other hand will probably have one out soon.
fade79 said:
Considering how long it took them to push ICS
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Compared to who? The 7% who have ICS or the 93% who still don't?
I seriously doubt we will ever get and official Jelly Bean OTA update. Knowing Verizon they are probably going to EOL the RAZR/MAXX not long after the RAZR HD gets released.
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Funny, my Droid X went from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread and received several updates since.
Constantly releasing new phones brings them more money
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Hello and welcome to every phone manufacturer out there. Including Apple.
... not supporting phones they have out already.
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Nope.
The devs on the other hand will probably have one out soon.
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Well, that at least, is true.
By devs here on XDA: yes
By Motorola: no.
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Compared to who? The 7% who have ICS or the 93% who still don't?
Funny, my Droid X went from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread and received several updates since.
Hello and welcome to every phone manufacturer out there. Including Apple.
Nope.
Well, that at least, is true.
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Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/motorola-tweet.jpg
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
fade79 said:
Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/motorola-tweet.jpg
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
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They never promised they'd release it within 6 weeks, they promised that they'd release a list of devices that would get ICS. The Q2 release date was the only promise they ever made on it, and they've held to that for Verizon. On GSM, I'm not surprised they've pushed it back, because apparently there are some issues in this OTA and I'm sure they want to fix them up a bit, and then they'll push that update out as the first release for GSM users and a minor update for Verizon users. It probably won't that GSM users are waiting until the end of Q3 for ICS, it will probably be pretty soon.
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Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/motorola-tweet.jpg
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
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If you READ what that infamous tweet said, they promised to release DEVICES for ICS. This means devices that meet the hardware requirements for ICS. They in no WAY promised ICS in 6 weeks and there is no way you can twist those tweets to mean that.
Waiting for ICS was horrible. I literally checked for updates every day before I threw in my towel and flashed the LATAM ICS ROM (and loving it).
If the RAZR isn't going to get the support it deserves, would you guys contemplate say, selling your device and getting an HTC One X/Galaxy SIII?
I mean, our devices are still new and can fetch a hefty sum...

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