Thinking about going back to my S2... maybe I am crazy

Thinking about going back to my S2... maybe I am crazy - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I'm looking for some outside opinions on this. Here's my thoughts/reasons for going back to the S2...
1. It seems like I had better battery with the S2.
2. S2 was much snappier (exynos)
3. Waaaaay more roms.
4. Way more accessories.
Now, the counter the roms and accessories is the Note hasn't been out as long. But my thinking is by the time the Note catches up on roms, the S3 will be out (maybe).
So I'm looking at selling my Note and buying an S2 (again) but this time, no contract. Am I crazy? Would you do it if you were me? I love my note, but I had more fun on my S2 I guess.

I put mine up on Craigslist for $625 to see if anyone will bite and make a offer. But only too take that money and buy the international version which has alot more development for it currently. I had interest in upcoming LTE in my area but ehhh HSPA+ works fine.
If all else fails i still love the ATT note

giantenemybird said:
I'm looking for some outside opinions on this. Here's my thoughts/reasons for going back to the S2...
1. It seems like I had better battery with the S2.
2. S2 was much snappier (exynos)
3. Waaaaay more roms.
4. Way more accessories.
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1. smaller screen, so better battery would not be surprising
2. wait for more roms
3. wait for more roms
4. theres plenty out
moral of story is be patient,ATnT version been out less than month

What is with all the purchase advice threads lately? 30 day return window jitters?
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Lol. I couldn't whip out my $650 fast enough! Told my GF id sell my Transformer Prime for it. Haven't got around to that yet

Well ya. S2 has only been out for a ling time as the Note has only been out for a month. What do you expect?
Have you rooted it and installed the Saurom yet? Makes it a lot snappier. Like butta.

SayWhat10 said:
1. smaller screen, so better battery would not be surprising
2. wait for more roms
3. wait for more roms
4. theres plenty out
moral of story is be patient,ATnT version been out less than month
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My concern is that S2 seems to be more port friendly since it shares the chip set with the international version, where the Note(att) does not. So i'm not sure the roms will ever catch up. At least not by the time the S3 is released.
Annnnd actually... I hadn't even considered that I'm still inside the 30 day time frame. I guess I could return it... Think I can get away with that with the flash counter being triggered??
And for the record I've tried saurom and it made the lockscreens look funny with a black background. I've been pretty happy with TPC rom as far as performance I guess. But either way, nothing is as snappy as what my S2 was.

I am returning mine tomorrow and going back to my Galaxy S2. Like you said the phone is just faster and snappier. Can't wait for the new Sammy LTE chip running at 1.5ghz.
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3 weeks since the at&t Note release, still seems to be no real indication of ICS coming to it soon. And on top of that, subsidized pricing on it still hasn't dropped to at least $200.
Paying $250-300 to renew contract for a phone with outdated software is a huge waste of money imo. But it would make more sense if you either currently had no working phone, or the current phone was nearing its 'death -bed'.
For the time being, I'm mostly using the Pre 3 even though its screen size is around the same as the iphones. But it's the webOS on it that makes it easier for me to ignore the small screen size.
Ironic how I kept thinking that it's Samsung and/or HTC or bust....but yet I'm saddled with Dell and HP instead.

So funny how people expected ICS to come out as soon as they bought the note when it was said the note is EXPECTED to RECEIVE ICS! No such date was Ever mentioned, only for the international version!
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You're not crazy.
I use my international gs2 as my daily driver and switch to the note every few days. I basically use it as the smallest tablet rather than the largest phone. I have a stand, my n64, psx emulator going and it looks like I may get 4 days battery life.
I don't think 30 days is enough for me to choose so I'll give it a bit longer and sell it later on if necessary.

I actually already returned the Note for an S2 already. My reasons were pretty much the same as yours, but also including inability for one handed operation. Another factor for me was gaming! Too many games weren't supported on the Note yet and I didn't have the patience to wait for it.
I won't lie though, not having the Note now for a week i do miss the big screen and the colors. It seems the colors on the S2 are just off compared to the Note.
In the end I might even return the S2 and wait for the Skyrocket HD or the S3. I think my screen fix would be fixed with either of those newer phones (assuming the S3 comes in higher than 480 x 800).
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Came from the Skyrocket and I was in love with that phone almost as much as my all-time favorite the HD2. But I couldn't look past the bigger screen on the Note. I have to say after buying the Note I wasn't going to commit to it all the way and held onto my Skyrocket just in case. The Note isn't quite as fast, but fast enough and I made look like SkyICS Rom on the Skyrocket. I have a big hand so I am able to pull off one handed use for the most part on the Note. Battery is about the same, around 12-13 hours. Going back to my Skyrocket now seems funny and small. Note it is!

I just returned my Note last weekend after having it for a week. I have to move three other family member phone's sim cards just to revert back; it was painful. While I miss the Note's larger and higher def screen, my good ole Skyrocket was very much zippier, better battery life and all my screens line up. My Note was rooted and was oc'd to 1.7.
But the real trigger for this reversal was that I nearly dropped the Note more than a few times trying to do stuff with my one free hand. The final straw was when my case came and I still have a hard time holding on to it. I have fairly large hands but there is only so much you can reach with one hand.
Also, it was tougher to hide the screen from peering eyes when you're trying to sneak in a quick email, web lookup :0. And this is with the brightness all the way down.
I'll patiently await the Skyrocket HD or something else that is no more than a tiny bit larger.

Looks like Aaron from phone dog is going to use the s2 as his daily driver also. Note was too much of a beast for him to handle.
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I've made the decision to go back to the S2. Hopefully, I'll get used to the smaller screen size. I'll use the S2 until the S3 comes out. The note is a fantastic phone...it really is.. but I need something with more dev support UNTIL the S3 comes out. Plus, the battery on the S2 (with custom roms) was insane. Not to mention a better performing processor.
I'm going to miss having a phone as big as my face.

bdbx18 said:
I just returned my Note last weekend after having it for a week. I have to move three other family member phone's sim cards just to revert back; it was painful. While I miss the Note's larger and higher def screen, my good ole Skyrocket was very much zippier, better battery life and all my screens line up.
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Better battery life on the Skyrocket? You're doing something wrong or you got a defective device. My Note lasts nearly twice as long as my Skyrocket ever did.
You people going back to an S2 are crazy. If you don't have LTE in your area, I can almost understand it, but I will never go back to a non-LTE device again. And I wouldn't give up the bigger screen and better battery life on my Note for any other phone out right now.

greyhulk said:
Better battery life on the Skyrocket? You're doing something wrong or you got a defective device. My Note lasts nearly twice as long as my Skyrocket ever did.
You people going back to an S2 are crazy. If you don't have LTE in your area, I can almost understand it, but I will never go back to a non-LTE device again. And I wouldn't give up the bigger screen and better battery life on my Note for any other phone out right now.
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Seems to just be general impatience. They expect 100 Roms within a month of release. Even though these devs are doing this at night in their spare time.

jpeg42 said:
Seems to just be general impatience. They expect 100 Roms within a month of release. Even though these devs are doing this at night in their spare time.
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I guess. I personally don't care about ROMs. I figured I'd just wait for the official ICS and I'm fine with the current Gingerbread ROM anyway. My Skyrocket is still sitting in a drawer and every time I pick it up, it feels tiny and inconsequential compared to the Note. I also remember how long the battery lasted for me and I couldn't even consider going back to it.
Galaxy S2 was a great phone and the Exynos is badass, but I'll sacrifice a little speed for LTE. I hit between 40 and 50 mbps consistently here in Texas. Data cap or not, that makes everything faster.

I wouldn't trade my note for the world. Roms will be available soon. People just have no patience. I don't mind waiting for ics.
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General thoughts on the note

Just wanted to give my general impressions on the Note. I'm a former iPhone user and jumped to the skyrocketing in January. I'm a total noob with rooting and flashing but I'm pretty competent with the help of xda. Ended up cracking the screen on the skyrocket and purchased the note last week. I was pretty impressed with it stock for about an hour and couldn't resist rooting.
The Team objection ics rom is out of this world, Unbelievable, 0 bugs, 0 lag, everything is flawless with good battery life to boot. I believe the developer is appdroid and I'd just like to extend my thank you for creating such a piece of artwork.
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Glad you enjoy it, I find rooting is like a plastic surgery, it pleases you for some time but gotta adjust it often. I am all natural my friends, stock with go launcher running. I am more than pleased. Natural 5.3"
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My girlfriend was digging the note when she saw it. It appealed to my inner nerd as well. So we went to AT&T and got a couple, she got the white, I got the blue. We are coming from sprint, and have yet to cancel our contract with them. We wanted to give the note and at&t a try before we fully jumped ship on sprint. I think I am ok with the service through at&t, so I am ok with trading sprint in for them.
The note is interesting. I don't like the default browser, it doesn't seem to zoom on web pages effectively, like it doesn't wrap text to make it readable. But I downloaded a new browser and thats fixed. The battery gets me through the work day, but with what I consider medium usage at best, it's only lasting 10 hours, which seems a little low, especially when I hear the ICS update is making the battery even worse.
I was hoping to be a little bit more wow'd by the note. But coming from an HTC evo, to the note isn't nearly the jump of going from my blackberry curve to the evo. I feel like with a phone this big I should be able to do some amazing things with it, but thus far I haven't figured out what it can really do.
It seems like a really great device, I just want to find ways to make it better or make it do more. Once I convince myself to keep the note, I know I will root it and start flashing, so I am sure that will help me scratch an itch. So I am glad to hear you are liking that rom. But I can't start scratching until I know I am keeping the phone. So I need to find ways/things to convince myself.

Mike208 - I am sure battery life will get better. My first android phone was a Samsung Captivate. In the beginning it was good for about 2.5 hours of screen time a day and made it through the day with push email. In the end I would regularly get about 3.5- 4 hours a day and come home with about 55% battery instead of 30%. In time i believe this phone will have a similar life.
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mike208 said:
I was hoping to be a little bit more wow'd by the note. But coming from an HTC evo, to the note isn't nearly the jump of going from my blackberry curve to the evo. I feel like with a phone this big I should be able to do some amazing things with it, but thus far I haven't figured out what it can really do.
It seems like a really great device, I just want to find ways to make it better or make it do more. Once I convince myself to keep the note, I know I will root it and start flashing, so I am sure that will help me scratch an itch. So I am glad to hear you are liking that rom. But I can't start scratching until I know I am keeping the phone. So I need to find ways/things to convince myself.
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Well, what more are you looking for when you got the Note? The GNex is pure Android ICS, the HTC one X selling point was the camera, The iPhone 4S was Siri, and the Note is S-Pen and Huge screen. I never owned the Evo so I dont know what its selling point was but I'd think the 4inch screen to 5.3inch with higher resolution, single core to dual core processor, S-pen, thinner, ICS leaks latest os firmware, and 4G LTE is a jump. I wish the Note could cook us breakfast too but Apple has a patent on it.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke

SKyRocKeting727 said:
Well, what more are you looking for when you got the Note? The GNex is pure Android ICS, the HTC one X selling point was the camera, The iPhone 4S was Siri, and the Note is S-Pen and Huge screen. I never owned the Evo so I dont know what its selling point was but I'd think the 4inch screen to 5.3inch with higher resolution, single core to dual core, S-pen, thinner, ICS leaks latest os firmware, and 4G LTE is a jump. I wish the Note could cook us breakfast too but Apple has a patent on it.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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Well said! I for one have discovered the joys of photography and drawing
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@Mike208
Just like you, I tested the Note and ATT's network before jumping from my beloved OG EVO and Sprint. Like stated in the above post, every device has a selling point. The Note's selling point is the 5.3" screen and SPen...which I absolutely love. I would suggest learning how to use the SPen and SMemo. I use these tools often and love what they provide. Also, with my short time with a custom ICS ROM, I was loving what is coming down the pipe with ICS. I only switched back to GB, because I want to wait for the source to be released. Otherwise, ICS will really give this device a boost to the top.
Last, a friend at work just got the LTEVO. I had a chance to play with it for awhile and while it is certainly a great device, I didn't feel any buyers remorse. Since I'm so used to my Note, the LTEVO actually felt a bit to small for my taste. I guess it's true about not going back to a smaller screen, lol.
At the end of the day, I love my Note and can't see me going to another device anytime soon. Oh ATT's network is as fast as they claim too. It was kind of painful to see such a great device on a subpar network...at least until Sprint gets their network running the way it should. I actually have faith in Sprint and I'm rooting for them too.

sag7392 said:
@Mike208
Just like you, I tested the Note and ATT's network before jumping from my beloved OG EVO and Sprint. Like stated in the above post, every device has a selling point. The Note's selling point is the 5.3" screen and SPen...which I absolutely love. I would suggest learning how to use the SPen and SMemo. I use these tools often and love what they provide. Also, with my short time with a custom ICS ROM, I was loving what is coming down the pipe with ICS. I only switched back to GB, because I want to wait for the source to be released. Otherwise, ICS will really give this device a boost to the top.
Last, a friend at work just got the LTEVO. I had a chance to play with it for awhile and while it is certainly a great device, I didn't feel any buyers remorse. Since I'm so used to my Note, the LTEVO actually felt a bit to small for my taste. I guess it's true about not going back to a smaller screen, lol.
At the end of the day, I love my Note and can't see me going to another device anytime soon. Oh ATT's network is as fast as they claim too. It was kind of painful to see such a great device on a subpar network...at least until Sprint gets their network running the way it should. I actually have faith in Sprint and I'm rooting for them too.
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Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. I got the phone because of its size. I was originally annoyed at the way the default browser handled web pages, btu fixed that with a new browser. I shouldn't say I am not wow'd with it. Just sayign when I got my evo I played with it and played with it and played with it. I haven't really got the bug to play with the note like that. I am sure its because it's not a new OS, like the evo was for me.
Yes I do need to learn to use the S-pen and S-memo, I don't really use either. My hand writing is not so great, and even worse on this device lol. I am definitely anxious for ICS, or at least to be able to root and flash.
I think I was expecting to do more with all the screen real estate. But obviously the more widgets I add, the worse my battery is. Well I am off to play with it some and see what I can figure out.

Mike208, my friend I think you have it correct. Switching OS's will give you that desire to play and play and play. Like you, I came from a Crackberry and I played with my EVO forever it seemed. So when you update to ICS, it will give you some new things to discover.
On the wow factor was the data speeds! Not to mention the Note is fast stock. I still like to turn on my Note and marvel at the screen, lol.
I say try to learn and use every aspect of this device...it will really surprise you. Good luck and have fun!
And I didn't think you were complaining, just asking questions.

mike208 said:
I think I was expecting to do more with all the screen real estate. But obviously the more widgets I add, the worse my battery is. Well I am off to play with it some and see what I can figure out.
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When your eyeballs get as old as mine, all that screen real estate is wonderful! I don't have to zoom in nearly as far to be able to read it.
I too came from the EVO 4G, and I got that because at the time it had the biggest screen available, now the Note has (well, if you discount the Dell Streak).
My note has replaced both my EVO and my 7" Galaxy Tab (original version), now I only need to carry one device. There are compromises on both ends, but nothing I can’t live with.

I can agree stock is OK but I really wasn't wowed because I came from the ics leak on the skyrocket so I was used to ics for a few months. But the rom with all the s3 features and customizations it owns everything out.
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Long time xda lurker and I think this is my first post. Replying here because I too came from sprint with my beloved original evo 4G running cm7. I keep getting offers from friends to buy my evo and I keep turning them down. I think I'm going to throw AOKP on it since it's supported.
Anyway, I live in Dallas/Fort Worth and my 4G speeds were always amazing. Having said that, the biggest wow factor for me with the move to att and the note has been the awesome data speeds. Little stuff, like d/ling a 3 meg app from the market is just ridiculously fast and comparable to my home uverse on the fastest plan.
My battery life is decent if I can keep it out of my fiance's hands and her constant playing of draw something and zombie lane.
I'm using SwiftKey Tablet Beta 3 because I love the word predictions. I was a long time swype user but it seems too inaccurate on the note. That's without the spen.
I'm using go launcher ex even though it is a laborious process finding good themes.
Haven't rooted yet because I've realized it's quite different going from an HTC phone to Samsung and wanted to get comfortable before switching.
Edit: guess this was my 2nd post
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level0 said:
I'm using SwiftKey Tablet Beta 3 because I love the word predictions. I was a long time swype user but it seems too inaccurate on the note. That's without the spen.
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For Swype to work accurate, you need to turn off languages other than English, ( or whatever you using) in swype settings.

tonybholla said:
I can agree stock is OK but I really wasn't wowed because I came from the ics leak on the skyrocket so I was used to ics for a few months. But the rom with all the s3 features and customizations it owns everything out.
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Yeah I was considering the S3 because it had some cool sounding features. So I am definitely interested in getting my root/flash on with this note. I may even take a crack at developing my own rom with this bad boy. I would love to see something like Diablos 4 Kornerz rom on the note
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612933

gotshoaib said:
For Swype to work accurate, you need to turn off languages other than English, ( or whatever you using) in swype settings.
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That does seem to drastically help the accuracy when using Swype with my index finger. I'm going to give it a try again.
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One more random thing. I thought I would try and run quadrant just for fun and after killing some background apps and ram using go taskmanager and go power master my stock unrooted note scored a 3100. Not sure if that is impressive or not but seems to be decent given other scores I've come across. Makes me look forward to ics roms even more.
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Just tried an interesting experiment. Was running more quadrant tests and my score never got higher than 2500. I realized the only thing different was having swype set as default keyboard. Switched back to SwiftKey and scored 3053 on first try. Food for thought.
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level0 said:
Just tried an interesting experiment. Was running more quadrant tests and my score never got higher than 2500. I realized the only thing different was having swype set as default keyboard. Switched back to SwiftKey and scored 3053 on first try. Food for thought.
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Quadrant means nothing. I used to get 3000+ on my HD2 (2009 technology) which isn't even an official android device.

I have the note, and I am still within my 30 days....I have been having lots of LAG....not sure but it doesn't seem to happen to everyone. I am thinking about contacting amazon wireless for a replacement. I too am dying to root this thing as I have been running ICS on my T-Mobile G2 for several months and absolutely loved it. My battery life increased by nearly 50% and performance overall increased as well. I did have it OC'd to about 1.5Ghz (from 800Mgz stock)
I am contemplating the SG3 but, yesterday I used a friends SG2 and the 4.5 screen seemed tiny, nearly "non-functional" LOL. The SG2 is much more fluid than my SGN.
Anyone who has had lag issues ...how have you dealt with it?

Crey23 said:
I have the note, and I am still within my 30 days....I have been having lots of LAG....not sure but it doesn't seem to happen to everyone. I am thinking about contacting amazon wireless for a replacement. I too am dying to root this thing as I have been running ICS on my T-Mobile G2 for several months and absolutely loved it. My battery life increased by nearly 50% and performance overall increased as well. I did have it OC'd to about 1.5Ghz (from 800Mgz stock)
I am contemplating the SG3 but, yesterday I used a friends SG2 and the 4.5 screen seemed tiny, nearly "non-functional" LOL. The SG2 is much more fluid than my SGN.
Anyone who has had lag issues ...how have you dealt with it?
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Dude.. keep the Note and put Team perfection's Objection Rom on it... you will be blown away..

Can I get an honest opinion....

I know this is the note forum and opinions will be biased. But I'm hoping we can be adults here...tomorrow is my last day that I can return my note to BB under their 30 day policy. I love this phone and all but it can definitely use a little more umph! Run MW3 on a non OC'd kernel then on DaG's kernel at 1.8 and you will know what I'm talking about. So the qustion is...how many of you would give this phone back and get the S3 on saturday given the option?
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1. I would keep the note, I love the large screen.
2. if i was to go back to the smaller screen: galaxy nexus > sg3 (i hate touchwiz and samsung/carrier software/upgrade cycle).

I hear that one x is pretty damn sick. Some people don't like the restriction of insternal sd only. But honestly all my music and photos and videos are on the cloud anyway...and the lack of removal battery? No biggie. I'm always near a charger...always. this thing is interesting as is the s3. Note is tight but me being someone who switches phones a lot, it might be time.
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I've had mine OC'd on GB and running non- OC'd on ICS on Flapjaxxx's ROM right now. Honestly, I really don't notice a difference at all.
Other than just wanting to have the latest phone, I really can't think of any reason why I'd exchange my Note.
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kiltedthrower said:
Other than just wanting to have the latest phone, I really can't think of any reason why I'd exchange my Note.
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This. I do not think I would be hugely impressed if I traded this in for the SGSIII. The S4 processor is the only real improvement, and unless it is night and day better than the Note, I'd just miss having the Note screen size and stylus.
On a different note (<--ha), I recommended buying phones from Costco. Free accessories and a 90 day exchange period with no restocking fees. Plus their prices are usually cheaper anyway.
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I have also recently had to make the same decision as I too buy my phones through BB but I think it comes down to personal necessity.
I am going to college in the fall so I needed something I could easily take notes on and jot down little ideas and such like that and I have also gotten too used to the phone size. Every time I even look at another phone it just seems microscopic. (as you get used to the big screen, sure you can get used to the small screen too)
If you are going to be using mainly for personal - GS3
If you are interested in mainly business or professional use, I would say the Note. (Plus, it looks more professional even when youre just texting ^.^)
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TJBunch1228 said:
This. I do not think I would be hugely impressed if I traded this in for the SGSIII. The S4 processor is the only real improvement, and unless it is night and day better than the Note, I'd just miss having the Note screen size and stylus.
On a different note (<--ha), I recommended buying phones from Costco. Free accessories and a 90 day exchange period with no restocking fees. Plus their prices are usually cheaper anyway.
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Do you know if they have their own insurance policy. for 6.99 a month i get unlimited new/refurbished phones for any reason outside of lost or stolen (rooted, bricked, destroyed, water, hulk attacks). One time, I gave it back to them as I bricked it and they upgraded my phone for free. As a constant flasher (haha), I do not know if I would be able to give that up just yet.

Like others, I really like having the latest phone but it wasnt a big deal for a few years because for some reason I was able to get yearly upgrades, so even if I had a new phone for a few months and a better one came out I knew I could upgrade a few months from than when an even better phone would be out. When I picked up my infuse last year is when my yearly upgrade disapeared, I decided to open a second line which will give me back yearly upgrades, the trade off is a slightly higher bill...I think its 25 bucks more per month. I got the note in march and I can upgrade my other line in august.
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Do you know if they have their own insurance policy. for 6.99 a month i get unlimited new/refurbished phones for any reason outside of lost or stolen (rooted, bricked, destroyed, water, hulk attacks). One time, I gave it back to them as I bricked it and they upgraded my phone for free. As a constant flasher (haha), I do not know if I would be able to give that up just yet.
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They do not. The only insurance offered is through the carrier/assurian. If you need the black tie protection, BB can't be beat.
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Vive la Note!
I would keep the Note there is not that much of a big improvment on the SG3 to make up for the loss of the big display and spen. All the software improvements like the Svoice and Smart stay will be ported over by our Devs the only thing that you can't get is the better S4 processor or exynos. SO do you go with smaller screen, and no spen or better processor? I'll stick with the Note.

I've had my note for about two weeks and loved it the first week (rooted it right away). After going back and forth between this, my old nexus s, and my work phone(evo design) I've decided its too big and uncomfortable to hold. I love being able to type cleanly and the screen real estate, but its just too much for me.
I'm going to return it next week for a galaxy s3 pre order. I flashed to stock and unrooted resetting the flash counter and everything. Its not too hard if you decide to do it and I've never used adb before. If I didn't flash a different from the beginning, this thing would have been returned within a couple days. I've been using stock for a few days now and its a world of difference.
EDIT: I also didn't find any use for the S-pen. I tried to like it my first week, but using my fingers is easier for everything and I didn't find the snote app practical for much of anything. I know some people find great uses for this thing, but some reviews are right, you'll never know until you try
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I'd keep the Note. For one simple thing, it is a Far the best phone out there with a big if. and that is IF you know what you want to use it for.
Simple example: sMemo not pratical? that is what i thought at first. until i created 2 to 3 empty notes as widgets on my homescreen just waiting to be written on and expanded in size for quick look.
Galaxy S3 to me is no upgrade, as a matter of fact if anything its just the software really. I think that Galaxy Note got a bad rap because of Ginger Bread, performance on that sucked. ICS in the other hand is awesome. I do Owned MW3 and performance on that sucked on the Note, and that is because of software optimization. Blame Android fragmentation for that

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Galaxy S3 to me is no upgrade, as a matter of fact if anything its just the software really. I think that Galaxy Note got a bad rap because of Ginger Bread, performance on that sucked. ICS in the other hand is awesome. I do Owned MW3 and performance on that sucked on the Note, and that is because of software optimization. Blame Android fragmentation for that
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MW3 on saurom OC'd to 1.78 plays extremely fluidly...you take away the oc on ics and it is horrible to play.
Considering ill have this phone for the next two years....I'm just a little worried that the device has to be stretched to its limits NOW as soon as I bought it to perform "acceptably"...FYI I don't think ANY current unofficial ICS rom out now is "acceptable".
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I have a one x and a g nexus that sit in my drawer because I love my note so much. I feel like zoolander when I pick up a device with a smaller screen!
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Getting the s3 isn't a bad option. Better than getting an One X. If I were to get a phone now, it would be the N7000 or the s3. BUT, I still love my G Note on UCLE2 ICS.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
-iOS = inspiring Outdated Software

Stick with the note....Its a outstanding phone, with a beautiful large screen.. And development is finally taking off on this phone is only going to get better through time too. You will regret having such a smaller screen. Plus I know the processer is a little faster on the other phone but you won't ever tell the difference that much, plus we already have a overclocked gingerbread kernel.. and ics is right around the corner and soon we will have that kernel overclocked as well.....stick it out you won't regret it!

I just love the note. Its has literally replaced my ipad and laptop as well. Shoot it has has replaced my tv as well.....
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This. I do not think I would be hugely impressed if I traded this in for the SGSIII. The S4 processor is the only real improvement, and unless it is night and day better than the Note, I'd just miss having the Note screen size and stylus.
On a different note (<--ha), I recommended buying phones from Costco. Free accessories and a 90 day exchange period with no restocking fees. Plus their prices are usually cheaper anyway.
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^This.^
Plus you don't technically have to be a Costco member to order from their online store
I have had a phone with the S4 processor (HTC One S), and the performance is marginally better. For me the Note does everything I want and then some. With Nova Prime there is 0 lag or anything else. The screen is the best I have seen, even beating the One X in my honest opinion. I will try a GS3 and see if maybe I will score one locally when they hit craigslist, but just from looks alone....it looks like a huge vibrant, which I was not a huge fan of. The software is already being ported from the GS3 to our device, our FFC is better, and our design seems more high end.

Getting S3 is nice idea.. but If you want to do more than what you can do with a smartphone.. then definitely go for NOTE. It is the most awesome phone on the earth.
Buying S3 from ATT, Verizon and T-Mo is not much of an upgrade.. this S3 is Dual core (not quad as of International version)

I am into the same boat, thinking of getting the S3. The reason I am thinking about it is battery life really. I am disappointed that my 2500 mah battery with push Exchange email is down to 50% at the end of a 9 hour work day. My Captivate used to get to 60-65% instead.
If the S3 has better battery life then I will jump ship. Until them I am still trying to find ways to increase it. I have used hacked rooms as well as ICS its all the same.
I won't lie though, it is going to be tough to leave because the Note will always have these 2 things for it.
BIGGEST SCREEN
S-pen built in.
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The biggest con for owning the Note? is that i cannot for the life of me use another phone. It has become everything from Phone, TV, game machine, Work, and Moleskine pocket notebook (yes the paper kind).

[Q] Advice Needed: Rooted Note or SGS3

I am still within the window of returning my G Note (which i love except for a few things) and possibly getting a SGS3.
I really like the GNote and the massive screen, the extra real state is really nice! I am on AT&T and really like the idea of the HSPA network backup to the not yet present LTE here in South Florida. I am getting avg between 4-6 mbps DL.
NOTE (AT&T):
Likes:
* HSPA Network on AT&T
* Screen Size
* S-Pen (I actually use the thing)
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
* No OC on ICS (might be wrong here)
* Potential for less Dev support once SGS3 comes out.
SGS3 (VZW):
Likes:
* Camera...I have toddler at home and a quick camera would be great (this is my biggest factor for considering this phone)
* Power...this things seems like a beast!!!
* form factor
* ICS, although I am not as concerned about software bcs it's a matter of porting by one these great devs in XDA.
Dislike:
* Smaller Screen
* Slow 3G speeds when not on LTE area about 50% of time!
Any thoughts that might help me rationalize this decision is greatly appreciate it!
Thank you!

Crey23 said:
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.

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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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No, it's not limited to Launchers, but they do affect normal navigation. I had ran GO, ADW EX, and Holo....and Holo being the "fastest". I just installed Go Ex and it's really fast. I think it more to do with one the widgets that I was running.
But lag can be seen while unlocking, but I hear that the SGS3 is the same...something to do with deep sleep that Samsung uses. It can also be seen while playing some games like Angry Birds. It ran kind of choppy on my old htc Vision(G2) Oc'd @ 1.2 Ghz, but the Note sometimes shows that choppiness too.
One thing that also concerns me is that the RAM is ually running at 65%-75% capacity anyone else?

I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3. I sold my international note for the one x and didn't like that phone so I would probably regret trading for the gs3 as well. Once you get used to the screen on the note its hard to downgrade. Believe me when I say that the note's screen looks way better than the one x, even the guy at Walmart's at&t store agreed with me. Hopefully when we get a kernel source it will speed up our notes, although my note isn't that bad now.
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First and foremost determine what you need in a phone, do you need the Horsepower of a quad core? Most apps aren't designed to work with the quad cores and I would believe that the support of them in ICS is kind of like windows, yes they will use them, but will it use them effectively? Do you want the screen or the camera more? I know for my needs I prefer the screen and the camera is plenty quick enough for what I do, but I don't have kids. As for lag, if it's really that bad, I'd exchange it for another. I only saw lag on my phone after I had launched 20 or 25 apps, running tons of widgets and hadn't shut my phone down in 3 weeks.
So in the end, the trade off is what will you utilize more and what would be best for you. I for one wouldn't trade my note for anything, but again I came from a streak and make full use of my very large screen and not the camera so much. Not to mention, you could wait to get the S3, get it, and in a year they'll probably release a phone that has 3.2GHz quad cores with brand new LTE system that's 10x faster than what we have now.
Technology has always grown faster than we can keep up with, the real question is, how long will you wait to get the latest and greatest? That's the reason why I haven't upgraded my home PC. There's always a new CPU coming out with a new form factor, or the next best graphics card is going to be released in a month or two. My current logic with it now is, hey it works, it works well, I'll keep it until it doesn't suit my needs anymore.
Just my thoughts on it.

Apex launcher is the best launcher for the note no lag on my end. I couldn't see myself going to a smaller screen. My hands fit the phone perfect.
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I will share my views with my days with the ATT Note. If you are running stock ROM..it was a HORRIBLE experience. I had my Captivate at the time and it was super smooth compared to the ATT Note stock.
If you are cool changing ROMS, which I think you are since you are here, I would expect it to be a lot better.
As for the dev on the ATT one dying after the GS3 comes out...well , unless you are buying an international GS3, I wont expect the dev for it to be that huge either compared to the international version but this is just a guess.

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this.

lyall29 said:
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3....
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This is exactly my concern.....Yes it might be all that, as the hox was when it came out, but after I played with it for a bit I was not convinced and actually opted for the GNote instead despite the additional $70 that it cost me.
I guess I like to be a s bleeding edge as possible, being that at the speed of industry... in two years, by the time my contract is over, there will be 6.8Ghz eight core, 0.5 TB solid state drive phones with 21MP cameras that wipe my butt too.... But reality is that it might be overkill.
The other thing that attracts me to the SGS# is that finally an Android phone will have as many accessories as an iPhone given the number of pre-sales, and the fact that it will be the flag-ship device for the 5 major carriers in the US/Canada. I am tired of walking into a best buy and see 90 different cases for the iPhone and, if I'm lucky, finding the $hitty Speck case for my Note lol.
Lastly, my other concer is that in order to get the SGS3 I would have to go from AT&T to VZW, and I am not convinced at all of going from lightning fast VZW LTE to crawling speed 3g EV-DO signal. It is reliable in the area, but LTE does not reach 50% of my territory.
I guess I'm going to keep the GNote, root it and wait for a kernel to break 2.0 Ghz blazing fast phone. I have read a few reviews that measure web processing throughput and the Note beats the SGS3 in the benchmark. Also some of the ROMs available have been tweaked to improve DL perfromance quite drastically.
The camera is pretty snappy too....It seems to take long, but when the picture is revealed it look amazing!

Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.

I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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littlewierdo said:
Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
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I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!

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Well I bit the bullet..... I switched to VZW. Specs wise the sgs3 seems to be superior, but push come to shove, a $35 a month savings with unlimited voice and text and 4gb gigs once the new pricing plans kick in at the end of the month.
I will miss the huge screen and te s- pen. And I might regret it, but I had to do it from a logical perspective.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).

I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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littlewierdo said:
Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
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Yeah I hear ya.....I have seen multiple videos on the the SGS3 and it seems like an incredibly fluid device. I have to say the screen real state i will miss, but since I am returning my Note today, and will get the SGS3 in early July I am back on an Blackberry Pearl 8130...the screen size is about 1/4 of the Note's....maybe less LOL. So I think by the time i get the G3 it will seem like a huge screen!
I will miss the S-Pen....I did use it quite a bit. I stopped taking my notebook to meetings bcs all I needed was my note.
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I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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You are right in the sence that many phones just need to be optimized in order to get them smooth. I did that with my htc Vision/G2 once I rooted, swaped kernels, flashed a "few" ROM's including ICS and had it OC'd to nearly 2x it's rated processor speed. BUT, and you know a but was coming....
There is something to be said of the posibilities of a device being launched nearly simultaneously on all 5 major carriers in the US...no other device has ever done that (at least under the same name, and never in so close proximity of one from the other).
The other thing impressive about the G3 is the hardware, it's got 2GB of ram, and incredible camera, a very good processor (though not the latest), and note like beautiful screen. For me the camera alone draws my attention, and the fact that the spec are as close to bleeding edge as we can get in a production device, makes me pretty happy to know that I can pull of 2 years of no upgrades.
In fact, when I purchased the htc G2 on T-Mobile nearly 2 yrs ago, it was the only phone on 4G network, and it was the best phone out there for a while, and I found no reason to envy any other devices. I switched from it bcs I got tired of the poor data strength of T-mobile in my area, and the fact that sitting at my office, getting signal was a hit/miss situation, but the device itself it's still kicking....it's my toddler's mini tablet at the moment.

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my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone.
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..

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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Ive seen it first hand (the international version). The screen is probably the biggest thing about the SG3, its a better quality screen than the Note.
Samsung has NAILED every phone. Would people be buying it otherwise? Look at the world wide sales, look at the tech reviews, there is hardly anything negative to say about it.
In fact, the only negative is that it doesnt have the latest processor, big whoop in my opinion. Oh, and maybe touchwiz, but touchwiz is decent now, nothing like the pile of poo it was on the Captivate.

Note vs Note2

First time I've been in the 'Note' section. I'm up for an upgrade with AT&T [have an Atrix right now], and just wondering how everyone here likes their Note? I browsed around, and it seem development has come along nicely and people have good stable versions of CM9 running on the Note. If you have a second, would love to hear what you like and dislike about it. Trying to decide whether to get the Note now, or wait for the Note2 to come out, or possibly go with something else.
Any thoughts welcome and appreciated!
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I feel like that is hard to say because it's like would you like a 2008 car or the same car 2012 model you know? Especially since it hasn't come out yet or the specifications have not been announced (as far as I know). I hear that they should be announcing it towards the end of August but who knows when it will come out after that and if it will be the International version or AT&T version. Tough decisions.
Like:
-Screen size (I don't know how I would get along with an even larger screen, this one seems perfect to me)
-I actually really like our processors, Exynos sounds like it has more problems although it is a bit faster
-Our developers (I adore my phone to no end because our development section is seriously the best)
Dislikes:
-Black crush although I have not noticed it really on my personal device
-The cracks that some of the white notes have near the rocker ( I have the "blue" one)
-Call quality ugh
Hope this helps at least a little bit. I wanted the Atrix for the longest because it was the biggest phone for a little bit. Oh how times have changed.
Good luck with your decision making. PM me if you have any specific questions about the Note experience.

Ur right i dont know if i want a bigger phone ..but! The note 2 will be slimmer i love mine now so i say ill prolly buy it lol
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JVogler said:
First time I've been in the 'Note' section. I'm up for an upgrade with AT&T [have an Atrix right now], and just wondering how everyone here likes their Note? I browsed around, and it seem development has come along nicely and people have good stable versions of CM9 running on the Note. If you have a second, would love to hear what you like and dislike about it. Trying to decide whether to get the Note now, or wait for the Note2 to come out, or possibly go with something else.
Any thoughts welcome and appreciated!
Thanks
-Josh-
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Welcome to the "Note" section. I currently own an Atrix and a G-Note as well. I must say I still enjoy my Atrix a lot and find myself using it all the time. The Atrix works really good with CM9 and the battery life is superb so I am mostly using it strictly as an mp3 player. The DSP Manager in the CM9 rom sounds beautiful. As for the G-Note, I just can't see myself going back to a smaller screen size. Being an artist and attending comic convention I especially love the screen size to view my art on the go or use the S Pen to do a quick sketch to iron out an idea. The photos and videos are beautiful with the G-Note. Being able to attach a flash drive for sharing files or even hooking it up to a large TV to operate it like a desktop are deal breakers when compared to other competitors.
I haven't really found anything that I didn't like about the G-Note. With all the different roms floating around in the forum it's kinda hard not to find a rom to your liking. Which brings me the G-Note 2. Due to the fact that it's so new don't expect a lot of roms or support right out of the box. Though if you've never owned a G-Note then why not hold out for the latest and the greatest? I won't be eligible for an upgrade until December which is cool for me because by that time all those hard working Devs would most likely have lots of Mods and roms available to try out. And that 5.5 inch screen in the new G-Note 2 is nothing to sneeze at.

I love the note and there are a lot of great roms for it but depending on how long you want to wait it may just be worth it. The other thing is the note 2 is going to be bigger, in my opinion the note is big enough already but it's all up to you
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Wait til the next version of the Note is announced to make your choice. It shouldn't be too long.

Once the gnote 2 solidifies I can address it directly. Until then I can share some observations about the existing gnote. I came directly from the captivate, which except for the abysmal gps, is still an extremely nice phone. The first thing I stress tested on the gnote was its gps. It uses both the Russian glonass and US satellites and the results are fantastic; even indoors, I can fix my position to within 9ft. Samsung clearly decided to address their previous shortcomings in this arena. The processor is responding well to extensive development and is shaping up for a very long successful run. The screen quality is to me is another major factor, I to am aware of the so called "black crush" but attribute it to pushing the still new amoled display technology to its limits. Overall, for me the graphical gains achieved outweigh this negative effect. That said, I can't but believe that Samsung, a company famous for displays, will sit still in further perfecting this promising young technology. So, if Samsung released an improved amoled tech that say, significantly reduced energy requirements while also demonstrating an enhanced resolution, then I would be sorely tempted. I do get great battery life, particularly given the humongous display but who doesn't want more? The thing is if you wait, you could get the gnote for a steal off contract, then after the gnote2 matures,if it is bug free and has some compelling technical advancements, then you can jump maybe 3-6 months into its release. That seems to me a win win but your mileage may differ. Either way, good luck with your choices whatever you decide.
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Honestly, the Note is everything I've wanted in a phone. The only complaint anybody can really have about it is the minor black crush issue. And even that doesn't bug me much. Other than that I don't have a single complaint.
That being said, waiting for the Note 2 would probably be worth it at this point. The improvements won't be enough to make me upgrade early, but if you're deciding on what to buy right now I would wait it out.
Either way you'll be happy. And I wouldn't go for anything else except maybe the gs3. Samsung is absolutely killing it right now IMO.
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The announcement for the Note 2 is just around the corner. Although there is a problem. Unless the new Exynos will support LTE, it will probably take longer for it to get to the states.

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The announcement for the Note 2 is just around the corner. Although there is a problem. Unless the new Exynos will support LTE, it will probably take longer for it to get to the states.
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I see it taking the same route add the gs3, international will be different, but the USA version will release roughly the same time
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Today I played with the S3. It is really fast BUT the screen seems small. Even though its only .5 smaller than the note...in my hand..it felt small. That shows that I wont be satisfied going back to a smaller screen. So Note 2 definitely for me whenever its released. Honestly, if youre not in a hurry...wait for the Note 2. If you you really want it now...get it. We just received official ICS so its still a great device.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
:O

A friend of mine has the gs3 and now that I'm running cm9 he's constantly picking it up and playing with it.
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I like my note but at this point, unless you want the stylus and pen, the GS3 or the HTC One X would probably be a better purchase.
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Get the international note1 online for $200-250 and when the note 2 comes out, sell that note1 on craigslist and use the money to buy the note2 on contract for the discounted price. :angel::fingers-crossed::victory:

for $200 where?
travperk said:
Get the international note1 online for $200-250 and when the note 2 comes out, sell that note1 on craigslist and use the money to buy the note2 on contract for the discounted price. :angel::fingers-crossed::victory:
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I'd love to know where you can get the N7000 for $200 please tell?
I have the i717 which I think is great apart from my g/f complaining she can't hear me properly during phone conversations.
I'd go for the N7000 unless you really need LTE, you get option to boost volume 'Voodoo Louder' and FM Radio and arguably better processor but not sure on that. Personally I like the look of the i717 better than the N7000.
Size wise I wouldn't get the GS3 too narrow, possibly the HTC Sensation XL but an even bigger Note is fine by me. Contemplating getting a Galaxy Tab 7.7 anyway. A Note 7.7 would be my prefect device with a quad core CPU, hopefully the Note2 will have quad core.

I just pick up a galaxay note refurbish for 200, as an early upgrade from att. It is amost impossable to find a second hand set for less than 450. The att version is still new and tmoble is getting theirs next month. Non of the quad core chip sets can process american lte so far. I would think a us note would not hit he shelf till next year. However there has yet to be a chipset named that could handle lte for the u.s. We would have heard something about this already.

JVogler said:
First time I've been in the 'Note' section. I'm up for an upgrade with AT&T [have an Atrix right now], and just wondering how everyone here likes their Note? I browsed around, and it seem development has come along nicely and people have good stable versions of CM9 running on the Note. If you have a second, would love to hear what you like and dislike about it. Trying to decide whether to get the Note now, or wait for the Note2 to come out, or possibly go with something else.
Any thoughts welcome and appreciated!
Thanks
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I love my note. The only thing I dislike about my note is the battery door.
Coming from the Atrix to the Note the only thing I miss is the Atrix vibrate motor. The note feels like a fast buzz instead of a solid rumble.
I got an Atrix on launch day and replaced with with the Note on launch day and hated that phone each and every single day that I used it. The headphone jack stopped working, then the wifi and gps stopped as well.

I heard about the Note last summer. At that timebitbwas rumblings. I waited until February 19, sitting on my Atrix coming from the Dell Streak prior for thus magnificent phone.
I love this phone. Love it so much I bought it twice. My first one was stolen.
As great a phone this is I will get the Note 2. However wow it will literally be 6 months from the first and second releases of this phone. I'm greatful for the quality of this phone and I'm great with a bigger screen. I'm still learning about this phone. I just wonder if this is hurting the Note with such a quick turnaround of the 2.
I'm not going to lie. Ill get it lol.
The Noteworthy Note. Running OBJECTION rc1 UCLF5 / h0tw1r3's r4 OC.

I'm definitely waiting for the new Note. I do have the original, but to think that it could be bigger, slimmer and come with Jelly Bean. I... am going crazy lol.

SKyRocKeting727 said:
Today I played with the S3. It is really fast BUT the screen seems small. Even though its only .5 smaller than the note...in my hand..it felt small. That shows that I wont be satisfied going back to a smaller screen. So Note 2 definitely for me whenever its released. Honestly, if youre not in a hurry...wait for the Note 2. If you you really want it now...get it. We just received official ICS so its still a great device.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
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Haha. You know .5 inches is actually an extremely massive difference right? It's not a linear progression. It even looks bigger because its 16:10 and wider.
Uh, people here need to stop saying its gonna be bigger. The SCREEN will be longer by .2" in the diagonal, but the overall phone size will stay the same, and might even get smaller. Definitely slimmer. The 4.8" SIII has similar dimensions to older 4.5" 16:10 phones with thicker bezels. There are many other examples... The key here is the change in aspect ratio, from 16:10 to 16:9. It'll probably have the same screen width, although I don't have any numbers handy.
Yeah there'll plenty of $200-250 notes on ebay. They usually say CRACKED and SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY. You can get a used one in the low $400s. A new one for >$450. Expansys-USA has the cheapest retail price I've seen for a non-eBay semi-trustable site at $520. Plenty of testimony about them helping out with warranties as well floating around xda.
Be aware that this so called "around the corner" is in fact the IFA tradeshow in Berlin on August 31. That will be for the international note 2. It's expected to come out in October in international markets, not the USA. Who knows when it will arrive stateside? The original note didn't even come out on AT&T til January, and was released internationally in October as well. An Optimistic guess would be before the holiday season, a good 4-5 months away. It's not an iPhone competitor so won't have to rush to market like the GS3.
Can you wait 4-5 months, or maybe even until Jan 2013 for the Note 2?

Where has all the i717 owners gone??

Okay I know our phone is getting old now and most probably upgraded to a S4 or HTC one by now, but I really miss the excitement 6 months ago when 4.2 android came to our phone. There was so much excitement and so many posts every minute.
Things have slowed down a lot here except in the android development forum, but it's understandable.
For me personally, i717 was my first android phone as I've only been a iPhone owner previously. i717 got me into Android, and despite some hardware and software setbacks, it has introduced me a whole new world of smart phones. I know what is bad and good about touchwiz. I know what kernels and roms are. And I've got great experience and patience with random reboots.
I will be with i717 for another year, and I honestly don't mind. It'll give me something to look forward to. That's not necessary a bad thing in life.
With that said, I salute the i717 big old Note.
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I, too, came to the i717 straight from years of using iPhones. Although I did have a Nexus 7 and various android tablets, I'd only flashed the occasional ROM -- I find tablets completely worthless, so I never used them.
With the 5200mah battery, I honestly don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. The S4 looks nice, and I'm sure note 3 will be awesome, but running cm9, I'll take the pepsi challenge against any 2013 phone in terms of responsiveness. They may hit amazing numbers on antutu, but I just want to hit a button and immediately have the action happen, and that doesn't take an 8000.

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I, too, came to the i717 straight from years of using iPhones. Although I did have a Nexus 7 and various android tablets, I'd only flashed the occasional ROM -- I find tablets completely worthless, so I never used them.
With the 5200mah battery, I honestly don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. The S4 looks nice, and I'm sure note 3 will be awesome, but running cm9, I'll take the pepsi challenge against any 2013 phone in terms of responsiveness. They may hit amazing numbers on antutu, but I just want to hit a button and immediately have the action happen, and that doesn't take an 8000.
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To this day I still don't have a tablet. I was going to get one this Xmas but I actually refused to when I saw how the Note could replace my tablet needs. I love putting my Note side by side next to my wife's iPhone 5 using the same app, and can see 2x as lines with bigger font than hers. That itself is a feature of a our phone that an iPhone can never replace.
I haven't tried the 5200 battery but maybe I will someday. Swapping batteries can get cumbersome as well as charging 2x batteries at the same time.
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@happy ~ when you arrived on the scene, the phone was at least a year and a half old. That's old in tech terms. So its understandable that users have moved on, as the majority of members here are always trying the latest and greatest thing, and a two year old phone isn't that.
But I agree with you, this is a great phone, and I for one can't see anything better in the "latest and greatest" phones out there.

Still on my Note, but we'll see what the Note 3 looks like. If it isn't the rumored 6+ inches I'll be interested.

Good to see there are others out there that share my same feelings on this phone. I've learned phones aren't about the best features, but how one relates to it. For me, i717 really did at a personal level. I just couldn't relate to a iPhone despite it having good stability. It just wasn't "me". It was Apple which I love as a company, but iPhone felt like a complete stranger despite being friends for so many years. Somehow, the Note and I just clicked.
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I know what ya mean. I actually got this phone when it first came out. It was my first Android phone too after a long list of iphones. Ive gone through several different devices since then to include the GN II. I even cooked a ROM for it under my old screenname cjsspape. I found myself coming back to this device as a solid interim device till the GN III comes out. I tried the HTC One which is great but i love the big screen this line offers. This will always be my go-to back up device!
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I was thinking of getting a new iPhone every 20-24 months and sell it for $400+ profit to cover my data costs. I can seriously use this phone for the next 10 years. OK, that's stretching a bit...but my point is this phone will last well over time. It has a place in my history. Actually we are holding the first phablet ever. Watch, it will be on display at MOMA in 50 years.
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We're still here.....just busy flashing all these new ROMs!!!
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I love the way everyone's heads still turn when I pull out my note. Because the screen is so big people can clearly see how cool it is running the many custom roms.
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developweb said:
I love the way everyone's heads still turn when I pull out my note. Because the screen is so big people can clearly see how cool it is running the many custom roms.
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+1. My worker has a Note 2 and was like whoa, what's that huge phone you got. I'm like Note 1..he's like No way, how can the screen possibly be bigger than Note 2. Well, it is. Its wider and more noticeable. No one notices a taller screen easily (i.e. iPhone 4S vs iPhone 5)
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My LCD broke and was forced to upgrade to the S4 for the time being.
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I've been behind this phone since I've had it and repaired it myself to keep it alive ....... I will not change till it is run over
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One quick correction, the current official version of Android on the Note 1 is 4.1.2, not 4.2 (or any variant of it).
Second, the person using CM9, you might consider upgrading to CM10, its now officially out of beta and really rock solid with alot of optimizations over version 9.
And now, my main point.
There is ONE reason Im considering an upgrade, ram. A second might possibly be screen quality.
This is an area where Samsung screwed up in my opinion.
With Android only continuing to grow in size, its going to require more and more ram to run effectively. 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7, completely stock with no apps installed sits in 500ish Mb of ram.
Yea, I know Android has memory management capabilities, but just like a PC, if you are constantly having to swap between inactive and active modes for different apps running in the background, this can create noticeable lag spikes as Android archives active apps into inactive status.
My second issue is the screen, Im not normally picky about the screen, most of the BS that people complain about on screens, I cant even see.
BUT, the screen on the Note specifically has, for lack of a better word, burn-in type issues. When I reboot my phone, it is VERY visible, with the AT&T logo screen (the all white with the AT&T logo in the middle), where I can actually see the entire screen is NOT a solid white, there are areas where it looks like some sort of other image is burned into the display.
This second issue however is not as big of a deal as I can only see this when I am looking at an all white (or nearly all white) background).
With regard to the 5200 Mah battery, Im using the Mugen extended battery (have no idea what the rated Mah is and I dont feel like looking).
Because Im still in the habit of charging my phone every day, I have not ever run the battery dry, the lowest Ive gotten it was 20% when I decided to do a little road trip from San Antonio to Houston and left the display on the entire trip getting there and coming back.
What I will say is, the major negative is that the phone wont fit in any 'things' that the phone would typically go into. For example, I have a car mount, my Note wont exactly fit in the car mount, I had to make a few adjustments to get it to work. Cases also make the extended batteries not an option.
Other than that however, the extended battery is completely fine, I mean really, what exactly are you putting behind your phone anyway?

I'm still rocking the I717 with a 5200mah batt but hope to get the upgrade if note 3 comes out better be water resistant lol:beer:
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I use the ravpower 2750 I've had better results with it then 5200. And cm9 is stable no reboots... I run a 4.2 from as well as a back up ..I switch between the 2 whenever one gets old to me.
••••changes with every flash••••

I'm still on my i717 and love it more with CM10.1 than I ever did before. It's still going strong in pocket tablet mode (200dpi) and I've pretty much stopped using my other devices for over a year now. I'm looking forward to the Note 3, a 1080p screen would be a welcome upgrade and if I get a new phone then I can do more hacking on the i717 like running Ubuntu or Debian on it.
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Calc....do u get reboots and does it bother u? I get reboots every now and then on 10.1 and that's the only thing I can't stand with our phone...I could live or deal with everything else.
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I got my Note on Feb 19 2012 at AT&T on launch day, I really did enjoy it. Sadly enough, the HTC One pulled me in with it's design and fluidity. I have passed my Note down to my brother and now somewhat regret it because I do miss having the large screen and s-pen.
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I changed over to the s4 a few months ago and lent my note to a friend. Sure the s4 spec wise is better, but nothing will compare to my note. Also I can't stand the stupid front button on the s4.... Whoever thought that it looked good should be shot!!! I miss the clean and uninterrupted look of the note, so nice. I still get to cradle my note from time to time and knowing I still own it relives me.
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