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Now that we have s-off and root, is a solution yet to get the phone and dialer to work on the View?
I'll look into it. Have you tried clubtech's patch?
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No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
ElAguila said:
No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
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Let us know if you get it running. I'm interested in this too. Thanks.
It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
Yes the sprint phones do not use a sim card. I added the lines to my build.prop file that are listed in the clubtech hack. Although the line
ro.phone.function=1
Was already there. I was able to place a call. The person could hear me and I could hear them although the volume was kind of low. I have not tested it with a bluetooth headset yet. Also keep in mind that I don't know but I believe any calls you make will count as data on your tablet data plan.
My concern was with upsetting sprint... you have your view on a regular view plan and not a phone plan right?
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
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Ah, OK, not actually seen one physically.
It must be a surface mount pre-programmed version locked to Sprint.. I can foresee difficulty in getting the phone to work then if it is set to data only on the network.
Edit: Just seen his success...
I'll be following this thread closely as I am on the fence for picking up a Sprint View. If phone calls are somehow enabled on this device then I will most likely pick one up.
As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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You will probably find calls suddenly being blocked at the network then once they find out users are able to make them. They will not give anything for free!
If you want to use the view to regularly make calls, I would advice looking for the thread that tells you how to do this using a market app groove ip and gtalk and gvoice. That is your best bet. While using the view as a phone is possible, DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. This means if you use it and sprint blocks your account don't blame xda nor the members here.
I'm just interested in getting rid of groove ip. I would rather have a phone function than another app running in the background. I actually went from a phone plan to straight tablet plan with groove ip. I only need phone functionality incase the school needs to call me about my kids.
With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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I don't know, I think there is more to it than that, or HTC would have enabled phone calls on the WWE Flyer for all others to use.
I still think HTC had some problem gaining approval with this design from Google for GB and had to leave out the phone function.
Why else disable fitted hardware when it would be a bigger selling point if working? It makes no sense!
For the time being I'm using nettalk. I had to install it on my evo first then copy and send the apk to my view via dropbox. Once it was installed I was able to make "data" calls with my view with no bt headset...mic and speakers worked just fine. This was done before clubtech posted his patch.
So has anyone been able to get the phone function working with clubtech's work around?
I've done exactly what he advised, added those lines to my build.prop and even added unlimited mobile to mobile minutes to my tablet plan (yes it exists, I work at a Sprint store and added it myself) but I'm not able to dial out or receive incoming. The phone service doesn't run, ever, even when trying dial out a call.
I know the GVoice method works but I'd really like to be able to open this up without having to use extra apps.
yes theres a way. I did that on my HTC FLYER 3G. I created a full detailed document on how to do that on HTC FLYER but I used some sources on xda developer forum in order to do that. Here is the document I created, the sources with links are available at the very end of the pdf file. (one of the sources is for evo view)
http://bit.ly/r6x82t
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
Tmobile Flyer?
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I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
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Im also interested in this, has any one seen this or using.. with contract or non contract (phone)?
The HTC Flyer T-Mobile is truly one of a kind
This unique tablet is only 7″ wide, but it comes preloaded with Android 2.3,
HTC Sense that has been optimized for your tablet, and a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
The HTC Flyer also features a 5 MP camera on the back and a front-facing camera for video chatting! This tablet also comes with HTC Scribe Technology, which is something brand new. You can purchase the HTC Scribe digital pen accessory for an additional fee, and be able to take notes that sync with a recording, highlight an important passage, doodle on a picture or even create your own picture! The HTC Flyer can give you a truly unique tablet experience.
HTC Flyer (T-Mobile)
•1.5GHz Qualcomm Processor
•Android 2.3 Operating System (Gingerbread)
•7″ Touchscreen that takes input from fingers & optional digital pen
•16 GB Internal Memory, Card Slot for up to 32 GB
•Rear 5MP Camera and 1.3MP Front Camera
•DLNA Capabilities
•Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP
•SRS WOW HD™ surround sound delivers impressive audio
I just wanted to bump this thread because I am also looking for a answer to these questions.
I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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Thanks for the clarification. I ordered a US tmobile branded flyer from ebay for $350 nd I was hoping to use it as a phone and for data. Since it's similar to the one you have, I'm hoping the roms are the same for it.
There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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Thanks. I'm gonna try it out today and cross my fingers that I can get it to work.
Well dam I'm sorry for wasting your time. Despite winning a 4g flyer on ebay, a wifi flyer arrived in the mail! I have already tried contacting the seller on friday and he still hasn't responded to me. I guess I have to go down the arbritration route with ebay and in the end, I won't have a 4g flyer. Oh well, maybe it wasn't meant to be but thanks for all the info!
Well that sucks! I'm getting accustomed to having my Flyer with me, and the 3g/4g is a godsend when I'm in a hotel with lousy wifi coverage. I'm still looking for a good Honeycomb GSM phone call solution, but so far no decent hacks yet that work. If ICS ships within Q1, that may solve my problem.
Good luck with the arbitration...
Well I finally got in touch with the seller and I got my money back. There is a seller on amazon called "Samy's Savings" who is selling the 3g flyer for only $399. I placed an order and have my fingers crossed about getting the right one this time. I have a question for you though.....What data plan are you using with T-mobile? I was thinking about using the flyer as an phone since I already have data on my main phone. As I've read more on the forum, it seems that the best way to use the flyer as a phone is to either use a bluetooth headset or a wired headset. If this is the case, I will probably just use the flyer as data only. Also, have you tried using the flyer as a portable hotspot? I'm curious to know how it performs this function if at all. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and have a great day!
Any updates with your Flyer 3g or tmo branded flyer 4g?
Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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Bump - Has anyone figured this out yet or is there still no way to get the t-mobile htc flyer to work with voice,mms & data?
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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Family mobile (walmart) works
Im thinking about jumping ship from android (evo 4g) to the titan. One of the biggest things holding me back is the ability to tether for free via USB and wifi with android. Is this an option with the titan?
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Im thinking about jumping ship from android (evo 4g) to the titan. One of the biggest things holding me back is the ability to tether for free via USB and wifi with android. Is this an option with the titan?
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I have the unlocked UK version of the phone and it does have Internet Connection Sharing in settings for sharing via wifi. Not sure if other versions of the phone will have it. AT&T phones will probably come with it locked down, not sure if unlocking the phone will also allow access to Internet Connection Sharing.
Thanks for the info. Hopefully unlocking the phone will let me tether it. I'm going to wait and see if it works before I buy it.
Would also love some more info. Was able to stealth-tether with my Focus without unlocking/jailbreaking, and that was super-handy since I do it so rarely and don't want to have to add it to my plan...
Now the Focus is dead and I'm 99% likely to be purchasing a Titan tomorrow.
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Would also love some more info. Was able to stealth-tether with my Focus without unlocking/jailbreaking, and that was super-handy since I do it so rarely and don't want to have to add it to my plan...
Now the Focus is dead and I'm 99% likely to be purchasing a Titan tomorrow.
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Looks like expansys is carrying the us version now with the hspa+ 850,1900,2100 bands. That one looks non carrier branded so it should work with internet connection sharing. Really curious if someone has a AT&T Titan they have unlocked that allows ICS.
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Looks like expansys is carrying the us version now with the hspa+ 850,1900,2100 bands. That one looks non carrier branded so it should work with internet connection sharing. Really curious if someone has a AT&T Titan they have unlocked that allows ICS.
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I have it unlocked on Telus. Just tried the internet sharing and funny enough it still says to contact ATT or dial 611 lol.. So I'm with Telus yet I need to contact ATT?? Right..
I have SIM-FREE UK version and can tether on Giffgaff gigabags. No issues at all. No jailbreaking needed, no unlocking of any sorts.
Sounds like the conclusion here is the unlocked unbranded version is okay to to use Internet Sharing.
AT&T locked or unlocked (like me) you are out of luck.
However I'm curious who can actually unlock this feature for an unlocked ATT model. Your current carrier? ATT directly? HTC?
Or are you just screwed?
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Sounds like the conclusion here is the unlocked unbranded version is okay to to use Internet Sharing.
AT&T locked or unlocked (like me) you are out of luck.
However I'm curious who can actually unlock this feature for an unlocked ATT model. Your current carrier? ATT directly? HTC?
Or are you just screwed?
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But do you mean that you don't have this ICS option in your settings list?
or does turning ICS on, doesn't do anything?
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But do you mean that you don't have this ICS option in your settings list?
or does turning ICS on, doesn't do anything?
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Not sure what you mean...
I do have the Internet Sharing option is settings.
When I turn it on it says "Connection not shared - To enable tethering on this device, go to att.com/mywireless or dial 611"
It's unlocked and not on ATT.
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Not sure what you mean...
I do have the Internet Sharing option is settings.
When I turn it on it says "Connection not shared - To enable tethering on this device, go to att.com/mywireless or dial 611"
It's unlocked and not on ATT.
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oh I meant Internet Connection Sharing.
It more looks like its your SIM that might not be compatible to tether on titan? When I turn it on, it shows me devices I can pair with and then it needs connection using passcode.
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oh I meant Internet Connection Sharing.
It more looks like its your SIM that might not be compatible to tether on titan? When I turn it on, it shows me devices I can pair with and then it needs connection using passcode.
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Oh, well I assume you're not using an unlocked ATT Titan? I know the unbranded model has no issues with internet sharing.
I was trying to get tethering working as well (at&t titan on Rogers) i phoned around and the HTC rep said tethering needs to be added onto my account. I have a 6GB data plan that does not include tethering (i know rogers says anything over 1GB has it but technically my account does not include it). The Rogers Rep said i would need ot go down to a 1GB plan for them to addon tethering to my account and then the phone should authenticate and work.
Is anyone here able to test that out and confirm?
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my current theory is that the at&t phone actually authenticates back to the carrier to verify tethering is added onto the account rather than just sharing out its current internet connetion.
if anyone can test and get back to us it might be helpfull
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I was trying to get tethering working as well (at&t titan on Rogers) i phoned around and the HTC rep said tethering needs to be added onto my account. I have a 6GB data plan that does not include tethering (i know rogers says anything over 1GB has it but technically my account does not include it). The Rogers Rep said i would need ot go down to a 1GB plan for them to addon tethering to my account and then the phone should authenticate and work.
Is anyone here able to test that out and confirm?
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my current theory is that the at&t phone actually authenticates back to the carrier to verify tethering is added onto the account rather than just sharing out its current internet connetion.
if anyone can test and get back to us it might be helpfull
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I'd be surprised if that actually worked. However I have speculated a way that should allow unlocked ATT branded Titan users like us to be able to use Internet Sharing. Sadly this won't be an option until the next MS Windows Phone update is rolled out. I'll explain..
When I had my HD7 it was T-Mobile branded unlocked on Wind Mobile. At first it was filled with all kinds of T-Mo apps etc and similarly locked to T-Mo within the OS. But once the updates starting rolling out from MS I forced them to my phone rather than waiting for T-Mo and it essentially made it become unbranded. The Internet Sharing feature was available as an update on my HD7 when the unbranded models received theirs and it was fully functional. So whenever MS rolls out whatever next update there is forcing it to our Titans should make it fully unbranded and at the same time unlock our Internet Sharing feature.
I'm with At&t and can verify that once I switched my plan from unlimited to "4g with tethering" I've been able to use Wifi Sharing. In fact i'm using it right now.
I think it's a value in the registry to check or not. We'll see once we can edit it.
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Add me to the list of ppl curious how to do it for free. I very rarely use the option, but I'd like it nonetheless...
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I have an AT&T branded Titan unlocked running on Rogers. I had a 1GB plan without tethering and I was getting teh same issue when I tried to enable tethering. So, I phoned Rogers and now I have a 6GB plan which has tethering enabled.
Restarted my phone, same issue.
I think that in order for this to work either I have to update the phone so that it is unbranded (how would I do this?) OR there is a registery key or file that needs to be changed so that the check to the carrier no longer happens.
Hmmmmm....
I think i know what needs to be done. My buddy has a Samsung Focus Flash from At&t (forgot to check but i assume it would give him the same At&t tethering message we're all getting).
Anyways we interop unlocked it and pushed the wifi tethering patch for WP7 and my guess it overwrote the At&t lockdown because he is able to tether without any issues.
Good news is we can get it working - bad news we have to wait for someone to interop unlock the Titan - which so far hasn't been done
This whole thing with tethering is flat getting old. We should have it std on the phone if we have an unlimited plan like I do and some of the others do. This sucks and is a good reason to take our business elsewhere where the feature is included.
I really don't use it much but that is not the point.
Okay, I'm done ranting and raving about this and I am back to normal.
Does anyone know, would Inc4G work in Japan with a rental Japanese SIM card? 4G speeds not necessary, but 3G would be nice.
Thanks!
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Does anyone know, would Inc4G work in Japan with a rental Japanese SIM card? 4G speeds not necessary, but 3G would be nice.
Thanks!
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Not sure if it will work. I've read posts here that if you change your radio setting then hot swap your cards, it'll work but I haven't tried it myself. If you do, let us know. Also there is an update coming and I don't now if that will inhibit your ability to do the hot swap because the update is allowing global capability, so I don't know if it will mess up our ability to hot swap if you OTA the update?
Edit: However, if you do download the upcoming update, you most likely will be able to no problem, because as mentioned the update allows Global Capabilities, but I think you will have to go through VZW ? Hopefully someone can clarify the process as I have not done it.
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Does anyone know, would Inc4G work in Japan with a rental Japanese SIM card? 4G speeds not necessary, but 3G would be nice.
Thanks!
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Not sure if it will work. I've read posts here that if you change your radio setting then hot swap your cards, it'll work but I haven't tried it myself. If you do, let us know. Also there is an update coming and I don't now if that will inhibit your ability to do the hot swap because the update is allowing global capability, so I don't know if it will mess u our ability to hot swap if you OTA the update?
Thanks.
Actually, the phone would work as is in Japan even without a Global update -- there's CDMA roaming with whatever carrier VZW has an agreement there. The problem is that it costs slightly more than an arm and a leg, especially with data.
So I am mostly interested in renting a voice+unlimited data microSIM and using that. Japanese trains and addresses are bad enough, I don't want to watch my wallet every time I open Google Maps. Granted, renting a whole phone isn't all that much more expensive, but I'd rather use something that's already set up the way I like it.
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Not sure if it will work. I've read posts here that if you change your radio setting then hot swap your cards, it'll work but I haven't tried it myself. If you do, let us know. Also there is an update coming and I don't now if that will inhibit your ability to do the hot swap because the update is allowing global capability, so I don't know if it will mess up our ability to hot swap if you OTA the update?
Edit: However, if you do download the upcoming update, you most likely will be able to no problem, because as mentioned the update allows Global Capabilities, but I think you will have to go through VZW ? Hopefully someone can clarify the process as I have not done it.
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I can vouch that my original Inc worked on Tokyo without doing anything. And us it was expensive.
I turned off mobile data and only used wifi (email worked fine for me, I used that instead of text and calls).
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I can vouch that my original Inc worked on Tokyo without doing anything. And us it was expensive.
I turned off mobile data and only used wifi (email worked fine for me, I used that instead of text and calls).
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Yup, same here, was in Tokyo (well, Yokohama mostly), and DInc would work. But I think actually using it would have cost me about as much as the rest of my trip to Japan did With Inc4G actually taking a microSIM, I'd much rather rent a local card and have unlimited data for Google Maps and Hyperdia...
Sorry to bring this back up...
Installed the upgrade (rooted one, but I guess it's the same as official). SO now I do have an option of selecting LTE or GSM. But when I put in either T-Mo or ATT SIM, all I get is voice and text. Data connection isn't there.
Is it supposed not to work with domestic cards, and will it work with a foreign one, and is there anything else I would need to do to the phine to get it working?
Thanks!
Same thing happened to me and I'm international. I guess now we need root and fix from our devs same as with Rezound. Should we start the new topic in General or Development to see if more folks & some devs be interested in that?
About 3 weeks ago, I purchased a Gear S while on a trip to Scottsdale AZ. I had the Gear unlocked in anticipation that my Canadian Carrier, Rogers, would soon get the watch and I could purchase a SIM from them.
Well, today I found someone who knows a bit about the situation and they explained that Samsung has told the carriers that they must have some backend infrastructure to support the gear. Currrently Samsung is supporting all remote functions but has told all carriers they must have their own infrastructure ready by January 2015. It appears the CDN carriers figure they can't make any money if they also need to own the backend so they are refusing to carry the watch. Isn't that just typical of the BIG 3 Carriers. They make so much money with their ability to run themselfs as a monopoly by being in bed with each other and now they won't carry the watch because they would actually have to put out some capital $'s first! I sure wish Verizon would have some to Canada!
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About 3 weeks ago, I purchased a Gear S while on a trip to Scottsdale AZ. I had the Gear unlocked in anticipation that my Canadian Carrier, Rogers, would soon get the watch and I could purchase a SIM from them.
Well, today I found someone who knows a bit about the situation and they explained that Samsung has told the carriers that they must have some backend infrastructure to support the gear. Currrently Samsung is supporting all remote functions but has told all carriers they must have their own infrastructure ready by January 2015. It appears the CDN carriers figure they can't make any money if they also need to own the backend so they are refusing to carry the watch. Isn't that just typical of the BIG 3 Carriers. They make so much money with their ability to run themselfs as a monopoly by being in bed with each other and now they won't carry the watch because they would actually have to put out some capital $'s first! I sure wish Verizon would have some to Canada!
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That is not good news! I'm expecting the Gear S to arrive today and I was planning on stopping by the Rogers store to get a data sim card to use with the watch. So, sounds like this idea isn't going to work? I may just turn around and return the Gear S?
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That is not good news! I'm expecting the Gear S to arrive today and I was planning on stopping by the Rogers store to get a data sim card to use with the watch. So, sounds like this idea isn't going to work? I may just turn around and return the Gear S?
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I've been to a lot of stores over the last few weeks and most staff don't even know what the watch is. When I show them mine, they still tell me it hasn't been released yet??? I talked to manager at a store in Calgary earlier today and he was the one who told me the story above...
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I've been to a lot of stores over the last few weeks and most staff don't even know what the watch is. When I show them mine, they still tell me it hasn't been released yet??? I talked to manager at a store in Calgary earlier today and he was the one who told me the story above...
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So, if I picked up a "rocket stick" and put the sim into the watch it wouldn't work? The sim would have a phone number associated with it and I'm assuming the call forwarding is being controlled by the app on the Note 4?
I took my SIM out of my Note 3 (Koodo) just yesterday to try it out. (futureshop gear S)
The watch input all the correct APN info without a hitch
Here's what I have discovered since then.
Phone: Works. However contact list imported from phone has skewed some of the contacts slightly. - still need to sort that out
Internet : Opera browser Works
Text Messages: once a conversation is built inbound only then can I respond to texts. I cannot compose a message at all
Email: same as text messages
Notifications: Works well
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
jsnali13 said:
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
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I returned my Gear S because we (Canada) do not have a system set up by the carriers to utilize all of the Gear S features. I'm on Rogers and they do not support any sort of conditional call forwarding. If you have voice mail, any call forwarding will not work - Not sure why we can't have v-mail and conditional call forwarding?
Anyways, I did try a $15 pre-paid plan with Koodo. Work well as long as the watch was connected to phone via BT. Was completely useless as a standalone since no call forwarding (I did not want to give out watch number).
Unless we have a better solution, this is a very expensive product that cannot be utilized to its full potential.
If anyone has been able to set their Gear S up differently to work as per US - please provide info.
greatg said:
I returned my Gear S because we (Canada) do not have a system set up by the carriers to utilize all of the Gear S features. I'm on Rogers and they do not support any sort of conditional call forwarding. If you have voice mail, any call forwarding will not work - Not sure why we can't have v-mail and conditional call forwarding?
Anyways, I did try a $15 pre-paid plan with Koodo. Work well as long as the watch was connected to phone via BT. Was completely useless as a standalone since no call forwarding (I did not want to give out watch number).
Unless we have a better solution, this is a very expensive product that cannot be utilized to its full potential.
If anyone has been able to set their Gear S up differently to work as per US - please provide info.
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isnt the call forwarding set up through Gear Manager?
I know i use to forward my cell number to my work line with no issues using the phone call settings. never had an issue because i had voice mail.
I cant see all these companies in the states setting up a different infrastructure just for this watch.
i have 14 days to play with this watch so might just get a sim with data and voice and try it out. i'm on telus so hopefully its just something with rogers that sucks.
jsnali13 said:
isnt the call forwarding set up through Gear Manager?
I know i use to forward my cell number to my work line with no issues using the phone call settings. never had an issue because i had voice mail.
I cant see all these companies in the states setting up a different infrastructure just for this watch.
i have 14 days to play with this watch so might just get a sim with data and voice and try it out. i'm on telus so hopefully its just something with rogers that sucks.
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Yes, call forwarding can be set through Gear manager, but your network needs to support it. From what I've found out, non of the providers support conditional forwarding, and non-conditional forwarding does not work when v-mail is active. Let us know how you make out...
Eh, I have a question, what exactly do you mean by conditional and non-conditional forwarding ?
I will soon be with the Bell network and would like to know this as I just got a gear s today.
Isn't call forward a simple thing ? I don't particularly care for vmail as I don't plan to be away from phone that long anyway.
Just curious of the situation.
Elgreco333 said:
Eh, I have a question, what exactly do you mean by conditional and non-conditional forwarding ?
I will soon be with the Bell network and would like to know this as I just got a gear s today.
Isn't call forward a simple thing ? I don't particularly care for vmail as I don't plan to be away from phone that long anyway.
Just curious of the situation.
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Forwarding - Always forward
Conditional - Forward when busy; or Forward when unanswered; or Forward when unreachable
So i got a pre-paid sim yesterday from Telus. My phone is with telus and i do have call forwarding on my plan. The watch works fine. I only have pre-paid data and text so i only get texts forwarded to the watch right now, but call forwarding goes straight to my voicemail on the pre-paid card.
I was reading something on another post about CDMA carriers vs. GSM carriers but can find the post again. Maybe thats why rogers has issues?
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Forwarding - Always forward
Conditional - Forward when busy; or Forward when unanswered; or Forward when unreachable
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I have the Gear S set up with a Telus pre-paid SIM. My Note 2 is on Bell. Call forwarding works fine; when the Gear S disconnects from the BT connection with the phone, it prompts the phone (through Gear Manager) to turn on call forwarding to the Gear S after a delay of 60 seconds (to allow for temporary, intermittent disconnections). One thing I discovered on another forum, is that you must have mobile data enabled on the Gear S (something I didn't want to do, as it is crazy expensive on the basic prepaid SIM), as it appears the Gear S uses this to prompt the call forwarding (I don't know why Gear Manager couldn't do it on its own). In any event, it turn out to cost less than 10 cents every time the Gear S does this, so so far not an issue, and I have full functionality. I suspect however that this might be the back end function Samsung is looking to unload if the OP is correct - but again, it is a mystery to me why this back end function is even necessary if that's the case.
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jsnali13 said:
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.[/QUOTE]
Did you go into a telus store to find out about the $100 for the year deal? i dont see it on telus.com
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I have the Gear S set up with a Telus pre-paid SIM. My Note 2 is on Bell. Call forwarding works fine; when the Gear S disconnects from the BT connection with the phone, it prompts the phone (through Gear Manager) to turn on call forwarding to the Gear S after a delay of 60 seconds (to allow for temporary, intermittent disconnections). One thing I discovered on another forum, is that you must have mobile data enabled on the Gear S (something I didn't want to do, as it is crazy expensive on the basic prepaid SIM), as it appears the Gear S uses this to prompt the call forwarding (I don't know why Gear Manager couldn't do it on its own). In any event, it turn out to cost less than 10 cents every time the Gear S does this, so so far not an issue, and I have full functionality. I suspect however that this might be the back end function Samsung is looking to unload if the OP is correct - but again, it is a mystery to me why this back end function is even necessary if that's the case.
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.
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So your plan is pre-paid voice and data? with the addon of texts? I cant find this option on the telus site. when ever my phone is forwarded to the gear, it goes straight into voicemail of the gear sim. wonder if they will ever fix the forwarding so when not answered on your gear, it will return to your phone's voicemail.
It's a prepaid card, that gives you access to voice and data - not a plan. As both the voice and data rates on a basic prepaid card are expensive - $.50/min for calls, $.30/text, $2/mb data - you need to gauge your usage and add add-ons or a plan accordingly. With the $5 text add-on, as I mentioned, this drops the call rate to $.15/min. You can also add a data add-on, but so far I don't think I will need it (and the cheapest is $10/mo.). You can see the add-ons on the website; the rest is just a basic prepaid SIM, not a plan, which is why you don't see it. They will charge you $10 for the SIM. I went in to a Telus store for all of this.
At least one Canadian carrier is now offering the Gear S - no sign of a special plan for it yet though....
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Gear-S-black-Smartwatch
Edit: Rogers too...
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...294967106+11+4294966826+4294966713+4294940989
I picked up the gear s a few weeks ago from samsung in edmonton.
I didn't bother informing my provider of my intentions. Just switched my microsim for a nano, and was set. Granted it did take a bit of messing aroung in the settings, I've managed to get it working as a standalone and as a companion for my note 4 simultaneously.
All notifications from my phone are forwarded over wifi or 3G while not connected via bluetooth.
Calls are forwarded to the watch, the only hitch so far is that I have to decide before I leave home whether I want the watch to dial out on my phones # or it's own.
Battery life is as expected from 300mah. BT connection, without 3G on yeilds a respectable 1.5-2 days, as a companion. The more you use it...
Having 3G always connected with BT left the gear s limping home @ 14% after 24hrs despite the battery pack boost back to 100% partway through.
Overall, I'm impressed. It's not yet a smartphone on your wrist, but getting close. There are a few annoyances such as the apparent inability to add a contact. As far as i can tell so far at least. Voice to text has worked well so far, and s voice does respond well to simple commands like call, text, play, open, set alarm, etc. It's no goggle now, but it's functioning well on the watch.
I find myself saying "OK gear" and "Hi google"
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I picked up the gear s a few weeks ago from samsung in edmonton.
I didn't bother informing my provider of my intentions. Just switched my microsim for a nano, and was set. Granted it did take a bit of messing aroung in the settings, I've managed to get it working as a standalone and as a companion for my note 4 simultaneously.
All notifications from my phone are forwarded over wifi or 3G while not connected via bluetooth.
Calls are forwarded to the watch, the only hitch so far is that I have to decide before I leave home whether I want the watch to dial out on my phones # or it's own.
Battery life is as expected from 300mah. BT connection, without 3G on yeilds a respectable 1.5-2 days, as a companion. The more you use it...
Having 3G always connected with BT left the gear s limping home @ 14% after 24hrs despite the battery pack boost back to 100% partway through.
Overall, I'm impressed. It's not yet a smartphone on your wrist, but getting close. There are a few annoyances such as the apparent inability to add a contact. As far as i can tell so far at least. Voice to text has worked well so far, and s voice does respond well to simple commands like call, text, play, open, set alarm, etc. It's no goggle now, but it's functioning well on the watch.
I find myself saying "OK gear" and "Hi google"
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Not sure I follow... Do you mean you got another nano SIM for the service you have on your phone, so both your Gear S and your phone are operating on the same service..? I didn't think that was possible - that is, that providers only allow one active SIM per service - or do you mean something else, i.e., that you have only one active SIM, and it is in your Gear?
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Not sure I follow... Do you mean you got another nano SIM for the service you have on your phone, so both your Gear S and your phone are operating on the same service..? I didn't think that was possible - that is, that providers only allow one active SIM per service - or do you mean something else, i.e., that you have only one active SIM, and it is in your Gear?
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Sorry, I completely omitted the fact that I have two active voice plans sharing data. As i did before the gear s.
The Gear works as a standalone with one number, for voice, text and data.
The note 4 has the same_voice, text and data on it's own number.
Two phones as before, but one on my wrist. With call forwarding, and all notifications from the note being sent, the gear s is essentially functioning as both phones.
My pockets seem so empty.
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Sorry, I completely omitted the fact that I have two active voice plans sharing data. As i did before the gear s.
The Gear works as a standalone with one number, for voice, text and data.
The note 4 has the same_voice, text and data on it's own number.
Two phones as before, but one on my wrist. With call forwarding, and all notifications from the note being sent, the gear s is essentially functioning as both phones.
My pockets seem so empty.
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Ah, yes, well, that will certainly work. I was looking for the cheapest possible way to get 3G functionality on the Gear S, at least until the carriers come out with a shareable option similar to that being offered by the U.S. carriers, given that I expect to use the Gear S as a standalone device very rarely (but like having that capability).