Hi all,
I've just seen a HTC Flyer for sale online (forgive me for not revealing my sources).
It's a fairly reputable auction site and 'apparently' it's 3 months new, 16GB Wi-Fi version with case, box, headphones, pen and a free 32GB MicroSD Card... looks ok in the pictures for cosmetic damage.
Seller wants £100 for it... What do you all think? Is it worth it? I know they still RRP for around £300+, so it could be a bargain!
Unsure.
cheers,
T-L-H
Lessee....that's about 150 USD, so yeah...thats a good deal.
I dunno what "3 months new" means but you'd be hard pressed to find a flyer that cheap over here even used. Best price I've seen is 180 USD refurbished.
I am selling mine on Swappa, it comes with more than just the unit, but am asking $335 for it.
http://swappa.com/listing/TKX494/view
Mine is listed in the XDA Marketplace w/ Scribe, Otterbox Case, charging dock and Screen Protectors.
Hi all,
I'll take a look at what you're offering but I don't think it'll compare to £100!
If anyone has a 3g version for sale, send me a pm so we can work something out (I'm in Texas).
Thats a fantastic deal. Maybe too good to be true. Is the seller reputable?
If its an auction, then 100 pounds is just the starting price or the current bid? Or a "buy it now" price?
If its just the starting price or current price, keep in mind that the huge majority of auction bidding happens in the last couple hours leading up to the auction end, even the last couple MINUTES.
With any online auction, make sure the seller (not just the website) has a good reputation. I typically will not even consider buying from somebody that has less then something like a 98% rating. A marginal or poor rating means, at a minimum, that the seller is not good at communicating (responding to inquiries or issues), and /or slow at shipping (none of which you want). Worst case, a bad rating means that they are a scam artist.
I'm not sure why people keep mentioning auctions or buy it now prices.
All I said was that the seller wants £100 for it, and that's the flat price.
I think it's an ok deal.
The-Last-Hylian said:
I'm not sure why people keep mentioning auctions or buy it now prices.
All I said was that the seller wants £100 for it, and that's the flat price.
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You said in your OP that it was on an auction website. So unless you explicitly note otherwise we might assume its . . . (wait for it) . . . AN AUCTION!!!!! Imagine that!!!
Also, I'm the only one that mentioned auctions or buy it now price, so I don't know why you're on about "why people keep mentioning . . .".
You haven't given many details, so its hard for anyone to say whether its a good deal or not. Is it available straight from this "fairly reputable auction site", or is it the type of site where individuals post things for sale (like eBay). If its an individual seller, do they have a good rating?
I have a HTC View that I would sell for $240 + shipping if anyone is interested, I think I'm going to list it in the XDA market place.
Flyer
Do you have a link to your Flyer on MarketPLace?
thx
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i am selling brand new white google g1,unlocked,with all accesories and 2gb sd card.
you can pay me via paypal or directly on bank.
price is 360gbp or 400euro.
cheers
Good luck with that price
Lol... wow, hot deal of the century here.........
it can be sold for 450 here in slovenia.i am just trying to sell him out
360 British pounds = 548.14 U.S. dollars
It's a decent price over here (Sweden). Not great, but cheaper than buying a Dev Phone through Google.
It ain't that bad,in Spain some people are paying for the G1.....550/700 euros......this is out-flipping-rageous.I got one for my dad here in the US and sent it to Spain,he paid 315 euros with taxes and shipping included,which is a really good deal I think.
all i know is crack is a terrible drug....n causes people to do outlandish things....this phone is by no means worth that price.....
ud have better luck selling it through ebay...
since white g1's are labeled as "rare" they tend to go higher
not to mention the few ADP1's ive seen have sold for over 600usd
Obviously, there doesnt seem to be anyone interested through postings.
If you are interested contact him through PM.
Locking this thread before it gets out of hand.
Good Luck on the sale.
I did. Couldn't put up with "backorder for 30 days" email from best buy on my 11/30 preorder. Paid $759 plus $14 plus overnight shipping. Got UPS confirmation that it will be delivered before 3 tomorrow. No regrets, yet.
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I did. Couldn't put up with "backorder for 30 days" email from best buy on my 11/30 preorder. Paid $759 plus $14 plus overnight shipping. Got UPS confirmation that it will be delivered before 3 tomorrow. No regrets, yet.
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You could have had a quality hooker with that $250 you threw down the toilet just think about that one for a little bit I hope you are happy!
not gonna lie I offered someone 600 for one. He said no cause he would lose money I said ok then and went on my marry way
Exactly! Dude, if you give ME 250$ I'll entertain you till the transformer gets delivered.
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There was one up on Craigslist here and the seller said he sold it already for $800
I would sell mine for $800 still sealed 32gb champagne, if anyone wants it.
if i had the money i would've....
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You could have had a quality hooker with that $250 you threw down the toilet just think about that one for a little bit I hope you are happy!
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"Quality", where are you from, Arkansas?
I'll sell mine for $700 wifi works just not ipad2 strong like I need it to be for work. near Kansas /Oklahoma border
Someone in my city is selling one on craigslist
Ordered a 64Gb from B&H and they don't know ****, and after the rumors of delay to Q2 and that Amazon will ship Jan 25 - Feb and that the launch in Sweden is also late Jan/Feb. I decided to buy from Ebay. but the thing that really triggered was what B&H wrote on facebook
" B&H Photo Video Pro Audio*Jeffrey Galles*- I think we got champagne today. In all honesty I didn't know there were two colors until a little while ago."
They don't even know what they are selling and have available for preorder on there site, First and last time I will have anything with B&H to do.
The one from Ebay is over priced but what is there to do when I don't want to wait like 1 to 2 months and by that time the Prime is "old" and there will be other products to look at.
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I don't know... if you have the money, then sure, you one-percenters can do whatever the hell you want.
But, in the grand scheme of things, you'll only be using this a week or so (I seriously doubt it'll take another month) early so was it worth it? I mean, you can basically do everything on a computer. Tablets are not needed -- they're awesome to use but they don't do much in terms of productivity (especially when compared to laptops/pcs).
Also, by buying off the guys on eBay, you are perpetuating the reselling process. Do you know a big reason you didn't get your pre-order? Because some **** bought 10 of these first and resold them on eBay. Guys like these really serve no economic value. (retailers provide distribution channels and outlets, what do resellers do?)
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I don't know... if you have the money, then sure, you one-percenters can do whatever the hell you want.
But, in the grand scheme of things, you'll only be using this a week or so (I seriously doubt it'll take another month) early so was it worth it? I mean, you can basically do everything on a computer. Tablets are not needed -- they're awesome to use but they don't do much in terms of productivity (especially when compared to laptops/pcs).
Also, by buying off the guys on eBay, you are perpetuating the reselling process. Do you know a big reason you didn't get your pre-order? Because some **** bought 10 of these first and resold them on eBay. Guys like these really serve no economic value. (retailers provide distribution channels and outlets, what do resellers do?)
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1%? I think there are quite a few people in the 99% that can afford to pay a couple extra hundred dollars more for a tablet.
ebay is too risky.
Easy to get scammed by someone trying to capitalized on the shortage supply and high demand.
It's not worth it, I can wait a little longer till local retails began getting supplies in after x-mas.
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I'll sell mine for $700 wifi works just not ipad2 strong like I need it to be for work. near Kansas /Oklahoma border
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I'll trade you for my iPad
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eBay is why pre-ordering sucks. Douchbags waste inventory which ruins it for the rest of us. Really pre-orders should come with a 6 month no-resale clause with head-crushing as punishment.
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I don't know... if you have the money, then sure, you one-percenters can do whatever the hell you want.
But, in the grand scheme of things, you'll only be using this a week or so (I seriously doubt it'll take another month) early so was it worth it? I mean, you can basically do everything on a computer. Tablets are not needed -- they're awesome to use but they don't do much in terms of productivity (especially when compared to laptops/pcs).
Also, by buying off the guys on eBay, you are perpetuating the reselling process. Do you know a big reason you didn't get your pre-order? Because some **** bought 10 of these first and resold them on eBay. Guys like these really serve no economic value. (retailers provide distribution channels and outlets, what do resellers do?)
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You can tell your "Occupy XDA" story walking pal. A week? I'm on backorder with BB for 30 days and nobody knows what the real story is. Hell, I had a Gamestop manager tell me he overheard a conference call he wasn't supposed to be privy to and that he heard that there were only 1000 tablets shipped to the U.S. and that Gamestop got 600 of those. If tablets are not needed then why are you trolling this forum and dropping your mighty wisdom? The reason I didn't get my preorder has nothing to do with someone buying in bulk, it's because BB and the other companies got duped by ASUS just like last year. People pay for goods based on the value they perceive that said goods provide to them personally. If an individual made $250 or so off me then good, eliminating the frustration and time I put into this debacle is worth it to me.
Ebay is showing three (or so) 64GB primes. If they are truly 64GB primes, that is encouraging that they have made at least one run. Don't know why they are not available yet for sale though.
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Ebay is showing three (or so) 64GB primes. If they are truly 64GB primes, that is encouraging that they have made at least one run. Don't know why they are not available yet for sale though.
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The one's I found are sold from Taiwan.
Doesn't we have any xda member trombone Taiwan that can verify that the 64Gb is available to buy in store in Taiwan..
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Too risky. There is a good chance the ones on eBay are from the bad wifi batch. And I saw one seller with a description that said he got several from Bestbuy.com yet he also copy and pasted the list of free games from Gamestop, including the part that says "Purchase a New Android(TM) Tablet Customized by GameStop and get free digital games!" So I wouldn't believe anything he says
In case anyone's still interested in purchasing:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0EJ-0009-00001
Amazing that there have been so many deals for the View. Is HTC trying to kill off its stock? I absolutely love mine. The only thing I'd ask is for it to be slightly lighter, but aside from that, the hardware is absolutely perfect for me.
I was gonna buy it, but after looking at the reviews of the marketplace seller I just cant do it.
Seems like even the 5 star reviews were saying the seller was horrible.
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I was gonna buy it, but after looking at the reviews of the marketplace seller I just cant do it.
Seems like even the 5 star reviews were saying the seller was horrible.
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Probably the majority of the users here with the View purchased theirs through through that seller - 1SaleADay. Most of us got it directly from the 1SaleADay website when they had it for sale there more than once. Yes, they're very slow and may not respond to questions, but it's because their products are dropped shipped. While it's no excuse for poor customer service, the fact is that they are merely a middle man selling the product. They don't actually have the product in stock at their own warehouses. It's wholly dependent on the company with the stock to get things shipped out. Again, it's no excuse, but it helps to provide a better understanding of what kind of company they are, along with how they're able to offer things cheaper than many other companies.
That said, everyone received their Views ordered through 1SaleADay in new, as-described condition (with the few exceptions that there always are when anything is shipped from any company). Purchasing through New Egg provides an added layer of protection for the buyer that none of us who purchased directly from 1SaleADay had. So if you really want one, I wouldn't let the seller put you off from buying it in this case. Generally I wouldn't say that for marketplace sellers (feedback is a great way to know who to buy from and who not to buy from), but in this case, it's a little different. It's a good price for a great device.
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Probably the majority of the users here with the View purchased theirs through through that seller - 1SaleADay. Most of us got it directly from the 1SaleADay website when they had it for sale there more than once. Yes, they're very slow and may not respond to questions, but it's because their products are dropped shipped.
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What is dropped shipped? I haven't heard that term before.
I got mine from eBay before Christmas from that one seller that sold 2000 in one day and then 3000 in one day the week after (bidallies I believe). No soft packing material, just cardboard, but mine arrived without a scratch. I'd say dealing with Newegg is the absolute best place to buy it, since you get their guarantee. It clearly says there is a 1 year warranty too, so that helps.
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What is dropped shipped? I haven't heard that term before.
I got mine from eBay before Christmas from that one seller that sold 2000 in one day and then 3000 in one day the week after (bidallies I believe). No soft packing material, just cardboard, but mine arrived without a scratch. I'd say dealing with Newegg is the absolute best place to buy it, since you get their guarantee. It clearly says there is a 1 year warranty too, so that helps.
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The all-knowing Wikipedia explains it better than I can:
"Drop shipping is a supply chain management technique in which the retailer does not keep goods in stock, but instead transfers customer orders and shipment details to either the manufacturer or a wholesaler, who then ships the goods directly to the customer. As in retail businesses, the majority of retailers make their profit on the difference between the wholesale and retail price but some retailers earn an agreed percentage of the sales in commission, paid by the wholesaler to the retailer."
So, the seller doesn't have the actual items, they ship from somewhere else, and the seller has little information on the items beyond what the manufacturer or wholesaler gives them. It definitely makes good customer service more difficult. It's not an excuse for the complete lack of customer service that 1SaleADay has however.
With the View, which ships from the U.S., this isn't so much of a problem. Pretty much everyone received their orders in a week to a week and a half. Where most of 1SaleADay's negative feedback comes from is much of the other stuff they sell, which is actually held and shipped from somewhere overseas (often China). Many of the items are sub-par, they break easily (often in transit), and it takes far too long for them to arrive. Before ordering my View, I had made two previous purchases through their site. The items arrived as described, and they worked just fine, but it took over three weeks for them to arrive. In addition to this, given the nature of how they do business, it's next to impossible to return anything through 1SaleADay or receive a refund. So, people buy cheap junk from them, it takes a month to arrive from somewhere overseas, and then when it doesn't work or breaks quickly, they're unable to get a refund or replacement, and in turn leave negative feedback (which is understandable). But sometimes, they do sell some good stuff, like the View. And I'd feel even more comfortable purchasing through New Egg because they have other customer protection measures in place.
Well I ended up buying the evo from newegg.
Im in no rush for it anyways. See how it goes
I ordered mine from 1saleaday and received it within 5 days of the order.
Probably will be importing the RN2 to the US.. Where are the cheapest and best places to get this device from? I'm worried that either: I'll get a fake, long shipping times or never receiving the product or wont honor any warranty issues.
Im new to MIUI, is there a custom recovery that I'll need? Do i have to worry about unlocking a bootloader? If so, can i relock for warranty issues?
EverBuying.Net has it for $174.99 (http://www.everbuying.net/product1078806.html). I have never used them myself so I can't vouch either way. But at the same time, the RN2 is a known quantity, and whichever dealer you buy it from should get you the same thing (+/- customer service). I do have an order for one myself at GearBest, but it is a complete disaster, and I would not recommend them at the moment. I preordered it on 3 Sep, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep and said it would ship in 3-5 days, and now ~6 weeks later it is still in the processing stage. I have used GearBest in the past for other stuff, and even though orders have taken up to 5-6 days in processing, they have never been like this. For some reason, they are filling orders that arrived much later like end September and early October before filling the preorders.
I bought mine from minideal.net.
Originally placed an order with gearbest they requested a copy of my credit card and driving license and said it was extra security measures.
I didn't feel comfprtable so I cancelled the order.
Placed the order with minideal.net on a Saturday night received the phone Friday mid-day so essentially took 4 and a half working days to get here (i did pay a bit extra for DHL) worth it in my opinion.
Im from germany
I bought it from Spain for 240 € ( Amazon )
It came with a otg cable a back cover
and glass Front cover
Its the prime model
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EverBuying.Net has it for $174.99 I have never used them myself so I can't vouch either way. But at the same time, the RN2 is a known quantity, and whichever dealer you buy it from should get you the same thing (+/- customer service). I do have an order for one myself at GearBest, but it is a complete disaster, and I would not recommend them at the moment. I preordered it on 3 Sep, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep and said it would ship in 3-5 days, and now ~6 weeks later it is still in the processing stage. I have used GearBest in the past for other stuff, and even though orders have taken up to 5-6 days in processing, they have never been like this. For some reason, they are filling orders that arrived much later like end September and early October before filling the preorders.
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company! Good luck! I too have received excellent service from Gearbest as well as horrible delays, lies from Gearbest. You puts down your money and you takes your chances!
Thanks guys for your input.. minideal for some reason isnt letting me enter a USA address. But looks promising with the screen protector and case.
Now im worried as I was going to buy from gearbest or everbuying
any other options that are similarly priced with a 1yr warranty?
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Thanks guys for your input.. minideal for some reason isnt letting me enter a USA address. But looks promising with the screen protector and case.
Now im worried as I was going to buy from gearbest or everbuying any other options that are similarly priced with a 1yr warranty?
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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but dont you get charged with import/customs tax if you choose DHL?
im thinking of going with geekbuying
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but dont you get charged with import/customs tax if you choose DHL?
im thinking of going with geekbuying
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Personally, I have never been charged import/customs tax when ordering stuff from China vendors, but I guess it is always a possibility. Nonetheless, I suspect it is not a very common occurrence simply because in the big picture, these purchases are small potatoes. If you were ordering mass quantities of items for probable resale, I can imagine things would be significantly different.
I have never ordered from GeekBuying myself, but I would not be hesitant to give them a shot if I were you because they are an established vendor that has been around for a while. I think there is some amount of gambling with every Chinese vendor because most are probably running with just-in-time inventories, and they will be loathe to admit they don't actually have an item in stock for fear of missing a sale. Regarding my purchase with GearBest, there is no question that the experience with this purchase was extremely frustrating. But I have used them several times in the past, too, and never had a problem like I've had with the RN2.
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GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.
kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.
tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
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I would still buy from Gearbest or Everbuying because, from what I read, the online dealers are pretty much all alike - some good experiences, some bad. My worst experience was with GeekBuying just last month - I needed a phone and a tablet delivered within 20 days - went to their chat, was confirmed 70 tablets in stock - that both the phone and tablet would be delivered (to the USA) in plenty of time - they had me do 2 separate orders since the 2 items would ship from different warehouses - they told me to chat again after I placed the orders which I did - they made many promises - the phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime) went out in about 5 days - regarding the tablet, I received a fake DHL tracking number but other than a series of lies, nothing - a few days before the deadline, they cancelled the sale, refunding to Paypal the cost of the tablet but not the $10.60 DHL fee. I got one of these Redmi Note 2s from to2c - they shipped quickly but do not respond to my requests for support on this phone - maybe they went out of business.
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company! Good luck! I too have received excellent service from Gearbest as well as horrible delays, lies from Gearbest. You puts down your money and you takes your chances!
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Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company??!!! dang! I ordered one and was hoping I won't be getting all the pop-ups like someone who got one from Gearbest
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I would still buy from Gearbest or Everbuying because, from what I read, the online dealers are pretty much all alike - some good experiences, some bad. My worst experience was with GeekBuying just last month - I needed a phone and a tablet delivered within 20 days - went to their chat, was confirmed 70 tablets in stock - that both the phone and tablet would be delivered (to the USA) in plenty of time - they had me do 2 separate orders since the 2 items would ship from different warehouses - they told me to chat again after I placed the orders which I did - they made many promises - the phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime) went out in about 5 days - regarding the tablet, I received a fake DHL tracking number but other than a series of lies, nothing - a few days before the deadline, they cancelled the sale, refunding to Paypal the cost of the tablet but not the $10.60 DHL fee. I got one of these Redmi Note 2s from to2c - they shipped quickly but do not respond to my requests for support on this phone - maybe they went out of business.
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I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through.
I wouldn't recommend Gearbest. I bought from them using the preorder but they only shipped after I started a PayPal claim a month after they said they would ship.
I ordered mine from aliexpress seller "Shenzhen Top-One Trading Co., Ltd." via DHL delivery. Arrived 1 week after order in Austria with no additional taxes or fees., like said in the description. It is the 16Gb TD version, but LTE and WDCMA are both working great for me.
I totally paid 155,14€ for phone + shipping.
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I ordered mine from aliexpress seller "Shenzhen Top-One Trading Co., Ltd." via DHL delivery. Arrived 1 week after order in Austria with no additional taxes or fees., like said in the description. It is the 16Gb TD version, but LTE and WDCMA are both working great for me.
I totally paid 155,14€ for phone + shipping.
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That's a great deal. I paid €173 for the phone shipped + around €30 import tax from Gearbest. Should have just waited to buy from Ali but I was too hyped and pre-ordered. Never again!
here is an update on my purchase from Everbuying if anyone is interested:
*placed order (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime and temper glass protector) with a credit card, chose expedite shipping
*2 days after placing the order, got an email about order was put on hold, and they needed to verify payment (pic of credit card used showing only name, exp date, and last 4 digit of account number and a pic of ID showing name, pic, address and exp date). They actually needed the verification on the same day that I placed the order, but they didn't send an email about it. I only found out after seeing a message in the inbox of my Everbuying account... could have saved 2 days of time there had I known.
*1 day after payment verification, order "was shipped" with a DHL tracking number (according to DHL, shipping info was received)
*DHL waited 6 days to pick up the package, (or the seller waited 6 days to actually send the package)
*DHL delivered the order 3 days after
**There was hardly any protection. The original box was not wrapped around with plastic bubbles. It was put inside another box with some plastic bubbles placed on top of the original box, and everything was put inside a DHL shipping plastic bag. When I opened the package, the outside box was a little moist because it was running like dogs and cats on the day of delivery. But the temper glass package and the original Xiaomi box seemed to be dry. Lucky there.
All in all, I guess my first purchase experience from Everbuying was considered good.
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
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I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
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They're getting better, the problem is most people go to Aliexpress for impossibly low prices. Therefore, if you want to survive as a seller on Aliexpress, you are forced to compete almost entirely on price. Aliexpress sellers usually work on razor thin margins, so most people just sell part time, and don't really care enough about the business to put real effort into customer satisfaction.
I actually have a sellers account on Aliexpress, so I can say with fair confidence that any products that sell for less than 6 or 7 dollars probably do not ship with real tracking numbers. Technically, the sellers are violating Aliexpress TOS. However, most budget sellers still do this because customers tend to reward sellers who list products with impossible prices. The only way to get ahead is by cutting corners, especially on shipping/tracking and sometimes with the product itself.
Aliexpress takes up to 30% commission and a tracking number adds more than 3 dollars to the shipping cost, so do the math. I can sell a 3 dollar product, but I need to price it at over 7 dollars just to break even and this doesn't even begin to cover the other costs of running a business or make it worth my time. Play by the rules, and you can charge 7 dollars for a 3 dollar product and still lose money on each sale, but if you disregard the rules and cut corners you can sell for 4.50 and make a profit. So, who will you buy from? Someone selling the same product at 7.50, or 4.50?
Aliexpress could crack down on sellers, but this would bring prices up and Aliexpress customers are typically looking for bargain basement deals. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
I should note that Aliexpress is extremely strict about listing branded products now in an effort to cut down on counterfeits. You need to apply for permission if you so much as mention a brand name anywhere in your listing. I suppose there are benefits to this, but some brand names are also fairly common words. A real pain in the ass when writing product descriptions.
For example, "NEW 2015 plush granny smith apple pillow, soft, squishy and nice! Pls Buy OMFG dear GOD I need the monies."
Aliexpress: "*****, I see you mentioned Apple. Change it now before the long noodley appendages of Apple's tentacle beast™ molest us all!
kusamba said:
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through
I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
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*Knock on wood*
I have placed over 20 orders this year using AliExpress just this year alone. Never an issue. You will just have to pick and choose good vendors from reading the reviews, and understand why you're even buying on AliExpress.
To be fair to some of the vendors on there, a lot of the complaints I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo. Not going to happen. And often times I could clearly see that people do not read the entire description of product and service and whine about it later. And then of course there are a lot of sellers who would cheat customers. Good thing about AliExpress is they won't release funds to the sellers until all parties are satisfied with the transactions.
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*Knock on wood*
I have placed over 20 orders this year using AliExpress just this year alone. Never an issue. You will just have to pick and choose good vendors from reading the reviews, and understand why you're even buying on AliExpress.
To be fair to some of the vendors on there, a lot of the complaints I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo. Not going to happen. And often times I could clearly see that people do not read the entire description of product and service and whine about it later. And then of course there are a lot of sellers who would cheat customers. Good thing about AliExpress is they won't release funds to the sellers until all parties are satisfied with the transactions.
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That's true, they also take forever to release funds so in theory you shouldn't have a problem getting your money back if there is a problem. Although I've never had a customer dispute a sale or file a complaint, most customers don't confirm receiving orders either. So, usually Ali only releases funds several weeks after product tracking shows delivery. It feels like 2 months sometimes. If you sell any amount of volume, you have to front at least 6-8 weeks cash for everything you sell. Which is probably why Aliexpress offers financing...
Basically, Aliexpress puts on a promotion as an opportunity to give shops visibility by putting their product listing on the front page/promotions page. In order to play, you'll probably need financing to support the promotion, which Aliexpress offers. Featured listings/promotions may sell hundreds/thousands of units, and shops may not see any revenue from the sales for months. Combined with the requirement of slashing prices by x amount and Ali's cut, a lot of shops just bleed money and never get the expected post promotion exposure/sales. I have a friend who used to own a factory, and he noted that you can spend 1000-dollars trying to promote your shop on Ali and only make 200 dollars in sales. Needless to say he doesn't sell on Aliexpress anymore.
As it turns out, it's quite difficult striking a balance between keeping customers and sellers happy on a platform. For sure, I hope Aliexpress cracks down on sellers who use fake tracking numbers and other shenanigans though. Customers also need to realize that an item priced near the cost of shipping is probably not going to change your life. You're ordering from the dollar menu, high margin sales affords better customer support and after sale service, if you're losing money or making 5 cents on a sale it's hard to bend over backwards. Some people only make a few cents on an item that costs 5-6 dollars, so if a customer demands a replacement for example, that's the profit of 100 sales or so you're messing with, and most people on Aliexpress aren't swimming in sales. The only people who make real money on Ali are Jack Ma and China Post. That's just my 5 cents.
I read from the consumers was that people were expecting to get a Mercedes for the price of a Daewoo.
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That's true, they also take forever to release funds so in theory you shouldn't have a problem getting your money back if there is a problem. Although I've never had a customer dispute a sale or file a complaint, most customers don't confirm receiving orders either. So, usually Ali only releases funds several weeks after product tracking shows delivery. It feels like 2 months sometimes. If you sell any amount of volume, you have to front at least 6-8 weeks cash for everything you sell. Which is probably why Aliexpress offers financing...
Basically, Aliexpress puts on a promotion as an opportunity to give shops visibility by putting their product listing on the front page/promotions page. In order to play, you'll probably need financing to support the promotion, which Aliexpress offers. Featured listings/promotions may sell hundreds/thousands of units, and shops may not see any revenue from the sales for months. Combined with the requirement of slashing prices by x amount and Ali's cut, a lot of shops just bleed money and never get the expected post promotion exposure/sales. I have a friend who used to own a factory, and he noted that you can spend 1000-dollars trying to promote your shop on Ali and only make 200 dollars in sales. Needless to say he doesn't sell on Aliexpress anymore.
As it turns out, it's quite difficult striking a balance between keeping customers and sellers happy on a platform. For sure, I hope Aliexpress cracks down on sellers who use fake tracking numbers and other shenanigans though. Customers also need to realize that an item priced near the cost of shipping is probably not going to change your life. You're ordering from the dollar menu, high margin sales affords better customer support and after sale service, if you're losing money or making 5 cents on a sale it's hard to bend over backwards. Some people only make a few cents on an item that costs 5-6 dollars, so if a customer demands a replacement for example, that's the profit of 100 sales or so you're messing with, and most people on Aliexpress aren't swimming in sales. The only people who make real money on Ali are Jack Ma and China Post. That's just my 5 cents.
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Very insightful indeed. I'm staying up for the 11.11 AliExpress shopping spree. LMAO! :victory:
This is going off topic a tad and I'm sure the mods are not going to like it. But anyway, thanks for the info. Like I said, smart shoppers and reasonable buyers will have no trouble shopping on AliExpress. And I was happy to report that Everbuying wasn't as bad as all the bad reps that I read about online.
Hi guys, came across this deal for a F1 for $84 AUD, shipped on eBay. I have a feeling it's a scam, but all the details seem to be pretty legit. Worth it to take a risk and just file a dispute on eBay and/or Paypal if the phone never turns up or isn't a genuine one?
EDIT: Forgot to add the eBay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-N...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Price sounds as fishy as it could be. Better to stay away from such deals. Who knows if it's a refurbished device or one with substandard parts.
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Price sounds as fishy as it could be. Better to stay away from such deals. Who knows if it's a refurbished device or one with substandard parts.
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Yeah, I'm thinking that too, but I sort of want to give it a go as a backup device and a base to live the good old days of custom ROMS and so on... I've updated the OP with the eBay link, it does look pretty legit aside from the price
wow , very interesting deal, hmmm the seller is a member since 2002 , no joke ,even earlier then me , but still skeptical about the price , could be clones
It's weird that the seller has 100% rating, the seller has only 7 feedback this year.
Even though the seller seems legit, it's weird that they can sell a newly launched device for so less, its quite tempting though.
Tried the link. Either the link is broken or the phone has been removed by eBay or the seller. ??
Yes, the listing was posted from hacked account as per eBay and now they are offering refunds
That's a shame, solid on eBay's part for discovering it pretty quickly and redoing everything though
if it's too good to be true on ebay, it's a hacked account 99.99%. if you have the time and patience go for it. 99.99% of the time , you will be wasting time and effort.
Was it one off hack account or mass ? Hmmm thinking to delete mine old account