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My current portable hard drive apparently uses too much power for the galaxy tab.
Are there any 500gig + hard drives that use the same power as a thumb drive or is this just wishful thinking?
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You will have to use an USB Hub with power supply. All spinning HDD's require much more power than the tablet is supplying.
I know it is not cheap, but you can today buy 128GB USB flash drives - they will work well and store also a lot of HD movies!
i am curious how you are connection your HD to the tab? if you are usign the usb host usb adapter, the little paper that came with it supports up to 32gb fat32 drives. i dont know if thats true or not, but if it is, you wont even be able to use a 128 usb flash drive as previously suggested.
i can confirm that a 32gb fat32 usb flash drive works, used with my sandisk cruiser 32
For portability the Seagate wireless drive would work.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite-Wireless-Storage-STBF500101-Black/dp/B004Z0S7K6
Using a powered hub will work just fine with portable hard drives. I have a 500GB Seagate that works very well
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
cleblanc92 said:
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
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Hosts are actually not required to supply 500 mA even. They are required to supply 100, and may negotiate up to 500 during device enumeration.
PCs that don't support 500 are extremely rare, but mobile devices with OTG are a different story - many are limited to 100. This seems to include our device.
2.5" spinning hard drives that use less than 500 can be found. Less than 100 is not possible.
As to the 32GB limit - I have no idea why that's in the flyer, other than maybe the fact that it's VERY rare to see drives above this size formatted as FAT since Windows refuses to format drives of this size as FAT.
I have a 120GB WD external drive that works fine on my netbook (single USB port cable) I'll have to pick up a USB adapter and try it.
IIRC as the size (GB) of the drive goes up so does it's power draw.
Has anybody tried a 1.8" drive from an MP3 player?
Power consumption
Start 1.8W (max.)
Seek 0.9W (typ.)
Read/Write 0.8W (typ.)
Low power Idle 0.3W (typ.)
Stand-by 0.1W (typ.)
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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Sounds awesome! So, I suppose any powered hub works. Did you format the HD in any specific way or by the help of some fancy software (just wondering as I think Fat32 cannot be formatted under Win7 if the harddisk exceeded size x) ?
Thanks
hoodie said:
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
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If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
achaayan said:
If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
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Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
almith said:
Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
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achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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achaayan said:
achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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very kind of you, thank you very much!
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So it's true, you actually have to format your 500GB drive as FAT32 to get it working?
I guess this means no HD movies (files bigger than 4 GB) right?
i plug in the lod fashioned 3.5hdd externally powered and ntfs formatted,
not able to connect 2.5hdds yet. if anyone was successful,what is powered usb hub used, i was not able to connect using a local brand of powered usb hub.
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mlhdk said:
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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did you use a 2.5" hdd. what is the usb hub that you used ?
Here are a few things im considering on getting. If you have any please share.
Hard Drives and SD Card
www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite-Wireless-External-STBF500101/dp/B004Z0S7K6
(500gb wifi portable hard drive $199)
www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-Ul...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322828537&sr=1-1
(1TB portable hard drive $129)
www.bestbuy.com/site/Transcend+-+64...Card/3542471.p?skuId=3542471&id=1218410803552
(Transcend 64GB SDXC Class 10 $89.99)
www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+Technologi...Card/3026197.p?skuId=3026197&id=1218372338726
(PNY 32GB microSDHC Class 10 69.99)
USB Hubs
I am trying to find some stationary unpowered usb hubs (ones where the usb male connector is apart of the hub not attached to a wire then to the hub) , here are a couple i found. I just dont know how their thickness compared to the keyboard will be.
www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5U706-USB-2-0-7-PORT/dp/B000TTTJ36/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1322829902&sr=8-7
(Belkin 7 port powered/4 port detachable unpowered USB Hub $21.18)
I found the next one in a kit on newegg but found sold seperately at Kmart... Kmart? who knew
www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_0...2830105239&sid=KDx20070926x00003a#reviewsWrap
(iHOME 4 port USB Hub unpowered $14.24)
www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4475078&CatId=392
(Ultra 4 Port Powered USB Hub $19.99)
Car Mounts
http://www.mountguys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TAB001
http://www.mountguys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GN010-SBH
http://www.mcmaster.com/#3m-vhb-tape/=fe7pxm (Double Sided Tape Commercial Grade)
I already got gaming controllers xbox 360, ps3 and pc at home, so i wont need another one of those. I will for sure pick up HDMI cable and smart cover or whatever asus will call them. Also thinking of getting the 40pin to usb connector that ASUS makes. A couple other things i left out that are on my wish list that im not quite sure on are... protective screen and extra charging cable.
If anyone disagrees with one of these things, let me know below, i would like to here some opinions. Also if you have any hot items you will picking up to go with your TF201 let me know! Oh sorry for no links, still on my way to 8 posts... when i reach 8 ill come back through and fix them.
Is the dock's SD Card slot an SDXC? If not, there's no point in getting a 64GB SD card.
John Kotches said:
Is the dock's SD Card slot an SDXC? If not, there's no point in getting a 64GB SD card.
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There's no such thing like a sdxc slot.
Testers haven't found any sdxc cards that didn't work in normal slots.
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There's no such thing like a sdxc slot.
Testers haven't found any sdxc cards that didn't work in normal slots.
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To utilize the full capacity you buy the firmware has to support SDXC.
Without SDXC support, you can't access beyond 32GB on a card.
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To utilize the full capacity you buy the firmware has to support SDXC.
Without SDXC support, you can't access beyond 32GB on a card.
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SDXC cards are basically SDHC cards formatted to exFat. exFat has to be supported by your OS.
OR just format the card to Fat/Fat32/NTFS. And voilà your done.
There is no need for SDXC support. It's only the DEFAULT filesystem (exFat) which needs to be supported to get the support for files > 4GB. (Fat/Fat32 only support files up to 4GB)
Once again, there is no special requirement for SDXC cards. Only the DEFAULT filesystem may not work. There is no problem in using a 128GB Fat32 card in any device that supports SDHC.
I am using a 64GB SDXC in my TF101 dock with no problems, of course I had to reformat to NTFS and it works perfectly. ExFat was not supported by the software, NTFS was a cake walk....
Anyone else notice that transferring files is pretty slow when hooked up through USB to PC? Took about 1 minute to transfer a folder of MP3's that is 133mb in size. It only takes a few seconds on my class to micro sd.
I just tried writing to the same micro sd card while it is in the tablet. It said 27 minutes to transfer a 4.3gb folder. When I removed the micro sd and used the adapter it is saying 5 minutes.
Was your microSD card in the Prime when you said it took only a few second or did you plug it directly in your computer without going through the Prime.
Cause I'm pretty sure internal memory should be at least as fast as a microSD but maybe there s an issu with how the files are transfered in PMP mode.
Also you should check with one big file (like a movie) and multiple small file (music/images files for roughtly the same weigh as the movie) and see if it's really the writing speed or because there is multiple files in queue.
I've had the opposite experience. I transferred over a 250mb movie to the prime that went super fast compared to transferring a comparable sized movie to my phone/sd card.
Writing a file to the micro sd card while it was inside the prime was a lot slower than using the sd adapter and transferring it that way.
Writing 4gb video to micro sd while inside prime = 27mins
Writing 4gb video to micro sd using sd adapter and not inside prime = 5 minutes
This is a class 10 PNY. I get 11 write and 21 read on sd test.
Writing 133mb folder of mp3's to prime internal memory = 1 minute.
Writing same folder to sd card using sd adapter = few seconds.
Whenever I connect the prime to my pc through usb it is very slow transferring files. Could it be Asus sync that is slowing things down?
This doesn't happen when transferring to my galaxy s II through usb
When plug into a computer. The prime appear as a media device. You don't have to mount anything. The storage, both internal and external, are readable by the PC and the Prime at the same time.
I know it behave like that with the original TF and that it is also slower than directly plug in the microSd on the computer.
That being said, I don't remember it taking 27 minutes to copy 4go (and I have a class 4 microsd) so I guess there's a problem somewhere.
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Could you also check the speed of copying files from internal memory to microSD in your Transformer? That way you will check if the connection to microSD is slow or not.
Magnesus said:
Could you also check the speed of copying files from internal memory to microSD in your Transformer? That way you will check if the connection to microSD is slow or not.
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I actually had like 4gb of music on my micro sd that I wanted to move to the internal hd. So I plugged the prime into my pc (it shows up as a device and I double click it to see 2 drives. One for internal 32gb and one for the micro sd) and opened both drives. I dragged the music folder from the micro sd(inside the prime) to the prime internal memory and it said 17hours to transfer lol. It was insanely slow. I feel like instead of showing up on Windows 7 as a "portable device" it would be better to just show the drives. Like how the drives show up when you plug your phone in and enable usb file transferring. When I open "portable device - Asus Transformer prime", I can only access one drive at a time. If I open the internal hd folder and transfer a file it won't let me open another window to access the micro sd inside the prime. It gives me a message saying the device is busy.
My current desktop setting is i7 920 oc'ed to 3.8ghz, Asus rampage extreme 2 mono, 6gb corsair dominated, dual ati 5870. So I know it's not my pc that is slow lol. It transfers files really quickly to my galaxy s II. It must be something with my prime that is causing it to write really slowly.
HC uses MTP for internal storage, which is substantially slower than UMS when transferring many small files (music) as versus a few large files (video).
Anyone successful in mounting the Primes internal storage on OSX 10.72?
OSX does not see my prime's internal storage or micro SD card at all... Win7 PC seems fine.
Haven't connected my Prime to the macbook yet, but for the first transformer you needed to have the application ANDROID FILE TRANSFER installed on the Mac computer.
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Anyone successful in mounting the Primes internal storage on OSX 10.72?
OSX does not see my prime's internal storage or micro SD card at all... Win7 PC seems fine.
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Apple tries it's best to make it a pain the ass for you to use any device that doesn't have an "i" in front of it.
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mazjohn said:
Anyone successful in mounting the Primes internal storage on OSX 10.72?
OSX does not see my prime's internal storage or micro SD card at all... Win7 PC seems fine.
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You need....
Android File Transfer for MAC users
http://www.android.com/filetransfer/
cyi1 said:
I actually had like 4gb of music on my micro sd that I wanted to move to the internal hd. So I plugged the prime into my pc (it shows up as a device and I double click it to see 2 drives. One for internal 32gb and one for the micro sd) and opened both drives. I dragged the music folder from the micro sd(inside the prime) to the prime internal memory and it said 17hours to transfer lol. It was insanely slow. I feel like instead of showing up on Windows 7 as a "portable device" it would be better to just show the drives. Like how the drives show up when you plug your phone in and enable usb file transferring. When I open "portable device - Asus Transformer prime", I can only access one drive at a time. If I open the internal hd folder and transfer a file it won't let me open another window to access the micro sd inside the prime. It gives me a message saying the device is busy.
My current desktop setting is i7 920 oc'ed to 3.8ghz, Asus rampage extreme 2 mono, 6gb corsair dominated, dual ati 5870. So I know it's not my pc that is slow lol. It transfers files really quickly to my galaxy s II. It must be something with my prime that is causing it to write really slowly.
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perhaps you need to reformat your microSD card to a format class speed that is compatible with Transformer Prime.
After reading this person's Amazon review on a Sandisk 32GB microSD card that I think it is the same type that I purchased from DailySteals I learned something very useful as it relates to the different performance of these microSD cards.
- What is even more useful was a criticizing comment to his review from a poster named AshenTech listed 4th down who explained how you can save money on these priced /performance cards by simply reformatting them and he referenced an SDformatter.
Amazon review
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3AT7L...Y&nodeID=172282&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful
SDformatter instructions
http://groups.google.com/group/200d...UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=sdformatter+speeds+up&pli=1#
SDformatter file
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html
It is extremely slow for me. I can transfer the same music files wirelessly to another device in significantly less time.
I gave up trying to write files through the USB cable. I just use SwiFTP now for all file transferring
Hi there,
I was wondering if we can use the usb adapter to connect an external HD to the device... can we?!
Shlomikalfa said:
Hi there,
I was wondering if we can use the usb adapter to connect an external HD to the device... can we?!
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I use a 64gb Flash drive formatted to FAT32 thru one of those cheap ebay usb adapters and it works fine. Comes up as UsbDriveA.
Shlomikalfa said:
Hi there,
I was wondering if we can use the usb adapter to connect an external HD to the device... can we?!
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Supposedly you can, however, in order to accomplish this, first the external HDD would have to be formatted in FAT32, or possibly EXT2/3/4; something which is natively recognized by the 7.7 Also, since the USB adapter only supplies a minimum amount of power (150mA I think), the HDD would have to be externally powered, either by its own power adapter, or by connecting through a powered USB hub (assuming the hub also has enough power to run the HDD).
It didn't recognize my external 500GB NTFS drive. I have a spare that I can format with FAT32 and will try that just for grins if I get a chance tomorrow. Otherwise, meh.
Update: I tried this with an external USB (self-powered) drive formatted in FAT32 and I got an error message saying "High Powered USB Device Connected: Cannot connect to...."
Not a big deal at all, really.
Just received a Corsair 128GB flash drive(Flash Voyager) today that I bought on Ebay for $45 . It was formatted to exFAT,which is Microsoft's newest file system,rather then FAT32 and allows files bigger then FAT32's 4GB max file size.
It works great on the 7.7 so exFAT is supported and even plays HD movies and lets you transfer files to the 7.7 and back.
I already had the 30pin to usb adapter.
Hi,
Great news. Thank you 7harper
Could you please post the ebay link from which you've purchased the key. I can't even find 128GB flash drive for this price. Thx !
are the usb connection kit for 8.9 and 10 inch abs compatible with p6800 ?
geogetski666 said:
are the usb connection kit for 8.9 and 10 inch abs compatible with p6800 ?
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Yes, as are any of the other accessories which use Samsung's 30-pin connector.
7harper said:
Just received a Corsair 128GB flash drive(Flash Voyager) today that I bought on Ebay for $45 . It was formatted to exFAT,which is Microsoft's newest file system,rather then FAT32 and allows files bigger then FAT32's 4GB max file size.
It works great on the 7.7 so exFAT is supported and even plays HD movies and lets you transfer files to the 7.7 and back.
I already had the 30pin to usb adapter.
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How did you manage to get the 7.7 to read/write exFAT formatted disk? I can't seem to make it work here. Tried both Asian and European ROMs but in vain. Can anybody else who has a USB connector with an exFAT stick confirm this?
Thanks.
Hey...
Just wanted to let everyone know that a USB A Male to A Female won't really help much...
For a matter of fact it won't do anything... it's like an elongation cable of 8cm which is crap!!! I guess I wanted to get a Female-Female but came out a bit of a retard...
I wanted to use the 30pin to USB cable, connect it to a Female-Female converter and shove my other USBs on the other end.... wondering if that will work....
Anyhow that's just my 2 dimes...
have a nice day,
SK.
exFat doesnt work on micro sd cards in built-in slot so I guess it won't work on any other medium...
You can use any kind of mass storage and file sistem, nfts works too check my tutorial in the general topic, you can mount a nftsnhard disk drive (selg powered) and read write it from p6800
Raziel_Sicily said:
You can use any kind of mass storage and file sistem, nfts works too check my tutorial in the general topic, you can mount a nftsnhard disk drive (selg powered) and read write it from p6800
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Have you actually been able to do that with a powered USB harddrive? I got an error message saying "high powered device" when I plugged one in to the Tab.
burhanistan said:
Have you actually been able to do that with a powered USB harddrive? I got an error message saying "high powered device" when I plugged one in to the Tab.
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I have tried three different external hard drive assemblies ( one desktop, two portable) all with external power applied. One of the portables always triggers the High Power Device shutoff. So I think it depends on the drive box interface electronics.
7harper said:
Just received a Corsair 128GB flash drive(Flash Voyager) today that I bought on Ebay for $45 . It was formatted to exFAT,which is Microsoft's newest file system,rather then FAT32 and allows files bigger then FAT32's 4GB max file size.
It works great on the 7.7 so exFAT is supported and even plays HD movies and lets you transfer files to the 7.7 and back.
I already had the 30pin to usb adapter.
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45$ ? really ? We need to see that !
Just want to reconfirm that the OEM Samsung USB & SD Connection Kit for Samsung Galaxy Tab will work for our 7.7?
I read that it is not supported for the original 7.0 and the 7.7 tablet - directly from the Samsung store.
Would be really sweet if it does work.
What I want to do is have it read my SD memory card.
Anyone?
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Just want to reconfirm that the OEM Samsung USB & SD Connection Kit for Samsung Galaxy Tab will work for our 7.7?
I read that it is not supported for the original 7.0 and the 7.7 tablet - directly from the Samsung store.
Would be really sweet if it does work.
What I want to do is have it read my SD memory card.
Anyone?
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It works fine.
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It works fine.
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I got it! I've tested it out and everything seems to be working out. However, I can't seem to get my 128 GB SD to be recognized with the SD Adapter.
It comes up as "SD card blank or unsupported filesystem"
I've formatted the card to NTFS and ext4 to no avail.
Any suggestions?
Edit: I got Fat32 to work with my 128 GB SD card. With the limitation of Fat32, I won't be able to transfer a file larger than 4 GB. Anyone how to get around this issue?
As stated by someone else earlier in this thread, try formatting with exFAT.
Is there anyway to connect 2.5 external HD?
I mean, using external power kinda defeat the purpose...
Hi everybody,
Can i connect a 2,5" portable HDD into this tablet? Also HDD's storage format would be NTFS. Is there any problem with this?
Thanks...
A Little Update : Storage could also be exFAT. There is no problem with format unless fat because of lack of maximum file size
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Hi everybody,
Can i connect a 2,5" portable HDD into this tablet? Also HDD's storage format would be NTFS. Is there any problem with this?
Thanks...
A Little Update : Storage could also be exFAT. There is no problem with format unless fat because of lack of maximum file size
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Hi. I connected my 2tb NTFS formatted WD My passport drive but the tablet didn't "see" the drive although the drive was spinning. I downloaded MLUSB mounter from the play store and all was good.
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Hi. I connected my 2tb NTFS formatted WD My passport drive but the tablet didn't "see" the drive although the drive was spinning. I downloaded MLUSB mounter from the play store and all was good.
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Ok giving this a try
Oh hell yeah even I got a 2tb drive and I play HDR movies from it that are like 25 GB each file so... Go for psa rips only 4 movies so far but good.
So see attached.
Unfortunately my usb a to c conveter mivi acts up a lot I guess it's a loose contact bad one, really.
Can't go out and buy another one right now.
So yeah it's an on off thing but I just used the HDD yesterday to watch Baywatch HDR and lemme tell ya wow. I know Samsung's got the pop. But this was just pop pop pop! MX player does play HDR files so.
I don't know what your reason is to use external but it works but a huge battery drain but a 3 hour HDR movie form 100 percent charge and brightness ends up at 23ish after the movie.
I suggest using SD card. Copy to SD card but hard drive will connect