I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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Squaretrade has 2 yr warranty, Accidental Damage and hadling as well, for $99 ...cheaper if you can find a coupon code. There is a thread going in the General section.
Apparently they are very reputable, I got one myself a couple of weeks ago.
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I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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Honesty, I would wait to ROOT and unlock. I rooted/unlocked and now Asus has my serial number blacklisted. I knew all this going in and didn't care, because that is what Android is too me...freedom,choice, and making my device how I want it to be. But, now I'm finding there isn't much gained from root/unlocking. I've tried the 3 top ROMS, and 2 of them were 95% stock and added no features or functionality. The one I'm on now is AOKP and it's the best so far with fairly nice features and mods, but because its still in the works, it has problems with the dock, games and apps comparability, and it sometimes freezes and reboots, therefore I wouldn't recommend rooting/unlocking for ROMs. The Primes is fairly new,so more mods and ROMs will be coming for sure. I would definately root and unlock, but not just yet.
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Honesty, I would wait to ROOT and unlock. I rooted/unlocked and now Asus has my serial number blacklisted. I knew all this going in and didn't care, because that is what Android is too me...freedom,choice, and making my device how I want it to be. But, now I'm finding there isn't much gained from root/unlocking. I've tried the 3 top ROMS, and 2 of them were 95% stock and added no features or functionality. The one I'm on now is AOKP and it's the best so far with fairly nice features and mods, but because its still in the works, it has problems with the dock, games and apps comparability, and it sometimes freezes and reboots, therefore I wouldn't recommend rooting/unlocking for ROMs. The Primes is fairly new,so more mods and ROMs will be coming for sure. I would definately root and unlock, but not just yet.
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Rooting doesn't void the warrenty if Asus doesn't know, and it's not done with the Asus boot unlocker, it doesn't do any harm generally to root it.
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im thinking about rooting my vibrant. but my buddy told me if i root, that it sends a message or signal of some sort back to t-mobile, thus voiding my insurance that i pay an extra 5 buck a month for. and i dont want to root, then have my $500 phone get stolen, or water damage, or anything like that and then be out a phone. i understand the other risk, like losing my warranty, and the possibility of turning the phone into a paperweight. but i cant find any good answers on this little signal that gets sent back to t-mo. so true or false? Details?
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im thinking about rooting my vibrant. but my buddy told me if i root, that it sends a message or signal of some sort back to t-mobile, thus voiding my insurance that i pay an extra 5 buck a month for. and i dont want to root, then have my $500 phone get stolen, or water damage, or anything like that and then be out a phone. i understand the other risk, like losing my warranty, and the possibility of turning the phone into a paperweight. but i cant find any good answers on this little signal that gets sent back to t-mo. so true or false? Details?
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There is no signal that goes back to T-Mobile because you root your device. T-Mobile can tell if it's rooted if you send it back to them for a warranty repair rooted. And they can (though often don't) deny warranty claims because of this. So, now that we've doffed our tinfoil hats....
The real issue here is honest risk assessment and an understanding of what root is and why we want it.
Rooting is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself. Merely rooting the phone changes practically nothing at all really. Rooting (or obtaining superuser/administrator privileges) simply allows you access to the OS in a manner generally not necessary to simply USE a device.
The question you really should be asking is why should I root my phone? If you come up with reasons and then root, you must then accept responsibility for what you do, as well as what you can undo.
Are there some things you cannot do without root? Yes. Are they deal breakers? Except for the tinkerer who invested in an Android device precisely BECAUSE they wanted to tinker with it at the OS level, the answer here is generally no.
Root is not needed to install apps, play games, make phone calls, navigate, read twitter, etc... If you want total control over the look/feel/behavior, or even the entire OS, then you need root. So it depends on what your intentions are.
Many things that WE DO HERE do require root access. But we're all well aware that doing so absolves T-Mobile from necessarily having to honor a warranty.
Now, can a phone be rooted, tinkered with, and then reverted to a factory state in a manner where T-Mobile/Samsung would be basically unaware (effectively) that the device had ever been rooted or tinkered with? Yes. Does this mean you are not responsible for what you do to your phone? No.
Just keep in mind that many of the things we do to our phones with root access are varying degrees of risky, so it is equally possible (though not really likely if you do your homework) to brick your device and make the ability to revert the phone to a factory state impossible.
The reason why service providers will void warranties with evidence of root is a practical one for them. Rooting an Android phone is generally (or usually becomes) easy as pie. Modding your phone, thanks to the gracious work of many devs and rom cooks, is also very easy. So easy that you can easily do most of this stuff without having the first clue what you've actually done. Click a few buttons, smile, eat pie...mmm...tasty pie!
Start stacking multiple mods along with this lack of clue, and you can easily screw up a device. This is a road T-Mobile (and every other provider) does not want to encourage. People's stupid mistakes can cost them money. It's just that simple.
i have mos def been doing my research . and i know the things i wanna do once i root. i just wanted to be positive that if i root, and then somthing happens to my phone that is not from me rooting (like if i gets stolen, damaged, or lost) that i can get a new one with out having to pay full price. thanks for the advice friend
Hard to top the previous post, but remember, you can always unroot if you ever needed to send your phone back. With custom recoveries you can make backups of your system, and three Vibrant is crazy hard to brick...
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i have mos def been doing my research . and i know the things i wanna do once i root. i just wanted to be positive that if i root, and then somthing happens to my phone that is not from me rooting (like if i gets stolen, damaged, or lost) that i can get a new one with out having to pay full price. thanks for the advice friend
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Well nothing is 100% positive, and you should realize that your ability to avoid violating the spirit (if not the letter) of the warranty entirely depends on your ability to leverage your research towards understanding what you can easily and safely do.
Gloom and doom aside, so long as you can do a hard reset, reliably enter download mode, figure out Odin3 v 1.30 and use it to flash back to factory JFD (something I do as a safeguard first step when messing with experimental roms anyway...it's best to start with a clean slate...), it's simple to get the phone back to a pristine state.
I generally err way on the side of caution when answering these sorts of questions, but only because I've seen some people do some really boneheaded things here.
YMMV.
bird is the word. now i just kinda have to decide which way to go about actually rooting. seems like theres multiple ways to do so. any thoughts on which way of rooting is the best? or do they all have the same features?
Sure there are different methods but in the end they all accomplish the exact same thing.
Nothing can void your insurance except for 2 replacements in 12 months. It will void your warranty. If the phone gets lost, stolen or damaged Asurion will gladly take your $130 and mail you a replacement.
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Hi guys,
So with the Bootloader unlock (hopefully) coming right around the corner, I'm curious about the possible controversy behind unlocking the bootloader and trying to sell the Prime used on XDA/eBay/Craigslist.
What are everyone's opinions?
--Would it be wrong to unlock the bootloader(AKA void the warranty) and then try to sell the prime later down the road when something new and better comes out?
--Would you buy a used prime if the previous owner fully disclosed that the bootloader is unlocked and the warranty is voided if the prime still fully functions?
--(Warning: my nooby question)Would it be possible to re-lock the bootloader? (I'm assuming it wouldn't be possible due to not having Asus' actual encryption key, but on the other hand, XDA has some wickedly smart minds)
--Is this even an issue? Am I making this a bigger deal than it really is?
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Hi guys,
So with the Bootloader unlock (hopefully) coming right around the corner, I'm curious about the possible controversy behind unlocking the bootloader and trying to sell the Prime used on XDA/eBay/Craigslist.
What are everyone's opinions?
--Would it be wrong to unlock the bootloader(AKA void the warranty) and then try to sell the prime later down the road when something new and better comes out?
--Would you buy a used prime if the previous owner fully disclosed that the bootloader is unlocked and the warranty is voided if the prime still fully functions?
--(Warning: my nooby question)Would it be possible to re-lock the bootloader? (I'm assuming it wouldn't be possible due to not having Asus' actual encryption key, but on the other hand, XDA has some wickedly smart minds)
--Is this even an issue? Am I making this a bigger deal than it really is?
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1. Yes and no. Everything about unlocked bootloaders and the ROMs and such that come with them is either open source or someone else's property. Therefore directly profiting from it without permission from owner/changing source code would be illegal. But you wouldn't necessarily as you're just passing the physical tablet along.
2. Yes and no. I personally wouldn't mind as that's just one less thing I'll have to do to be prepared for my levels of customization. At the same time, I wouldn't buy it too close to full price as I'd just get it new and would scrutinize the seller's wording and overall advert very closely. I would not trust you out-right and most likely would still choose the unlocked route just as a safety precaution.
3. I do think it's possible to revert to an unrooted, locked state, but you'll be dependent on a dev here actually putting it together. Unroot is easy, putting back to complete stock with all security on is a bit tougher but doable (I could still have warranty work done to my phone)
4. Again, yes and no. Anyone who generally even knows what unlocking and rooting and ROMs are would most likely enjoy the experience of a new device that they get to do these things to themselves. But some more layman users who wish to have full control but don't know how are even willing to pay others to do this for them.
You'd definitely be able to sell it. Probably more easily locally since you could show off the customizations and pros of custom software vs. that from the manufacturer/carrier.
*EDIT: Also, I don't believe many people are going to be worried about warranty on used devices. That's usually the trade-off: Lower price, but no real support + any past damage that could have been done and gone unreported vs. Higher price, (USUALLY) complimentary service for malfunctions for a limited time, and generally a return policy to a retailer.
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--Would it be wrong to unlock the bootloader(AKA void the warranty) and then try to sell the prime later down the road when something new and better comes out?
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No, but inform they buyer that the device is unlocked and potentially without warranty.
Would you buy a used prime if the previous owner fully disclosed that the bootloader is unlocked and the warranty is voided if the prime still fully functions?
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Definitely. I'd prefer if it was unlocked posibbly with some neat, fast ROM installed, one less thing for me to do. I bought my phone rooted and with CM installed.
so i have been thinking of unlocking the bootloader on my prime but didnt know if it was worth it. i was reading the warranty info: http://support.asus.com/warranty.as... Pad Transformer Prime TF201&os=&hashedid=n/a and i saw that it only covers defects in materials and workmanship. theres a part that says "We apologize for not be able to provide service for individual components (such as hard disk or CPU)" so does that mean if something happens to any of those things asus wont cover it or they just wont service it and i get a new one? what problems had you guys had caused by unlocking the bootloader if any, and what problems have you had that didnt have anything to do with unlocking the bootloadefr? and did asus cover those problems?so final question is it worth unlocking or is the warranty worth more? because asus customer service pretty much sucks. it took them 1 week to replay back to me with a useless answer when i needed help recovering deleted pictures. and every time i try to contact them thru live chat no one ever connects. so who recomend unlocking and why and who doesnt and why?
i have also seen people that have the problem where their screen craked. did asus replace your screen even if you were unlocked?
these forums get more views than replies. 194 views and no replies. does that mean everyone is on locked bootloader?
I would say that if you are afraid of paying for repair then never unlock your device unless you know how to fix it or have a backup plan. I personally got a 3rd party warranty for any hardware issues that happen that aren't normal for the Prime.
Is the prime better unlocked? Yes tremendously better.
Is the Asus Warranty worth not unlocking? No IMHO
I've seen too many hardware issues posted here to take a chance on unlocking as it voids the warranty. Most people I've seen are simply rooting their device. I'm waiting to see if Asus is going to give us NVFlash which would make it safer to play and a way to recover a bricked Prime.
i am rooted but locked.
RMA'ed twice since Dec when I bought it. I'll never RMA again and wait 2 months like the past 2 times. I chose to unlock recently when I got it back and it was the best decision I've ever made.
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these forums get more views than replies. 194 views and no replies. does that mean everyone is on locked bootloader?
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The reason that people aren't replying, is because this question has been asked and answered a dozen times already.
If you unlock your tablet's bootloader, you basically void your warranty.
Unless you know for certain that you never want to get an OTA update, or warranty repair again, don't unlock your Prime.
If you think you may have hardware issues in the future, and you don't want to buy a new tablet or pay to have them fixed, don't unlock your bootloader.
If all you bought the Prime for was playing around with custom ROMs, or if the only way Android has ever made you happy is through a custom ROM and you don't mind not having a warranty, then yes, go ahead and unlock your bootloader.
And yes. Asus knows when when a tablet's bootloader has been unlocked.
First of All, I might seem pretty vague as I cannot find the threads where I heard about all this.
So I will apologise in advance If I am talking complete non sense.
Knowing about all the upsides of rooting, I have been seriously considering Rooting my S3 with CF auto root and triangle away.
I understand that currently it is possible to return the phone for warranty and not have any issues with it once stock roms is applied.
What I am worried about is the future implications with rooting, right now Samsung is being quite loose with how strict they are being with letting us root etc. But I heard that they have recently started a background service which keeps tracks of custom files created when rooting and that they are doing this in order to crack down on people who have rooted, using this log when attempting to use warranty. Again this might be completely wrong.
Can anyone confirm this with me, whether this is true? I'm worried about the future implications as I am only going to keep this phone for a year and keeping the 2 year warranty would be a huge plus.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Any help would be appreciated.
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Someone as scared as you are about the future ought not to be rooting!
Having said that,you need to ask yourself what you wish to achieve by rooting and if you get sound reasons,go ahead.
Try to enjoy your phone and live life kingsize rather than being worried about warranty issues.
Have you heard of anyone successfully having the cake and eating it too?
Life really is too wonderful to be spent worrying about Samsung spying on you!
Tell you what - go on ! Well i can't guarantee that the rumours are false but i can assure you that we'll have a workaround similar to what we have today for re setting bin counter
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Someone as scared as you are about the future ought not to be rooting!
Having said that,you need to ask yourself what you wish to achieve by rooting and if you get sound reasons,go ahead.
Try to enjoy your phone and live life kingsize rather than being worried about warranty issues.
Have you heard of anyone successfully having the cake and eating it too?
Life really is too wonderful to be spent worrying about Samsung spying on you!
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Yes, you are right nothing ventured nothing gained. It is just I am wondering how much it would pay off risking my warranty, I am only looking to install some audio mods and ad-blockers. If this rumour of Samsung tightening up the security in the near future wasn't there, I Would be rooted right now
If Samsung can fool such a large community, then I tip my hat to them (<--- that's my hat)
Like the movie Inception says, once you plant the idea of rooting into a user's mind, s/he will obsess over it. I did for 2 days (my previous android phone ran CM7), and I knew there was no way I could go back. So rooted
My advice: Right now, we have ways to circumvent, reset root counters and regain warranty. Tomorrow we may not. MobileOdin even flashes without changing the counters.
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If Samsung can fool such a large community, then I tip my hat to them (<--- that's my hat)
Like the movie Inception says, once you plant the idea of rooting into a user's mind, s/he will obsess over it. I did for 2 days (my previous android phone ran CM7), and I knew there was no way I could go back. So rooted
My advice: Right now, we have ways to circumvent, reset root counters and regain warranty. Tomorrow we may not. MobileOdin even flashes without changing the counters.
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That really sums the situation up nicely .
OP make a list of why you want root then decide if its worth it ,
Without root XDA does not exist no mods no custom roms no nothing.
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First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for making this type of thread, but I have done some searching and reading and I am now thoroughly confused.
My phone is the BNG3 version so obviously not towelroot compatible. After figuring out that was the case and it ain't being updated I stumbled upon Odin Pro, but it needs root to use. Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
So how do I root my S5, what is this Knox and why shouldn't I trip it, and what the heck is happening?
Once again, sorry for making this kind of thread, but I am just so confused.
Nemaides said:
First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for making this type of thread, but I have done some searching and reading and I am now thoroughly confused.
My phone is the BNG3 version so obviously not towelroot compatible. After figuring out that was the case and it ain't being updated I stumbled upon Odin Pro, but it needs root to use. Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
So how do I root my S5, what is this Knox and why shouldn't I trip it, and what the heck is happening?
Once again, sorry for making this kind of thread, but I am just so confused.
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I'll answer the second part since the other poster already answered the first part.
Tripping knox is just setting a flag in the bootloader to true. Basically it tells Samsung that you did something "unauthorized" with your phone and voided your warranty with them. The thing is, tmobile doesn't care. They will replace/upgrade your phone without even looking. This has been confirmed many times here and other places. (don't hold me accountable...yada yada...)
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But TMB, like most carriers doesn't care about Knox and it usually won't affect a warranty claim made with TMB.
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That's not always the case. Before rooting, I called T-Mobile a few times speaking to different representatives each time and asked them to explicitly describe their policy on rooting and Knox, and how it relates their JUMP! program (T-mobile's warranty/insurance and upgrade service) with regards to upgrading and general insurance repair/replacement.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID: If the Knox counter is tripped we will know/find out and you will no longer be eligible for upgrading nor replacement in accordance to the JUMP! program. In fact, a couple of them went into further detail that I could be liable for paying the full remaining price plus a fine if I were to attempt to upgrade/replace a Knox tripped phone.
THAT SAID, the employee that I bought the phone nonchalantly remarked when I asked him about rooting the phone with respect to the JUMP! program that T-Mobile would honor the JUMP! program despite root. HOWEVER he said nothing about a Knox tripped phone. Perhaps he equivocated meant that a towelrooted phone may be accepted but a full-fledged Knox tripped phone may not.
TL;DR:
T-Mobile representative/"official" web-sources say Knox tripped phones will not be eligible for the JUMP! program.
ONE employee at a T-Mobile store seemed to be willing to accept a rooted phone with regards to the JUMP! program.
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TMB is a large company. ...
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I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a troll/unwise, I am being completely serious. I am a cautious guy, and I wanted to know the full potential hazards of rooting with regards to their warranty policy. Of course on a person to person basis it should be easy to find a rep that will let a Knox tripped phone slide. However, in my personal opinion to pay the price of the warranty + full price of the phone + a fine in the unlikely worse case scenario that T-Mobile holds their policy to the letter seems expensive, especially when I know I will more than likely keep the phone for 2yrs+. My conclusion was to not buy their warranty, root, and be happy.
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Just do a deferred trade in then when you jump. You skip one person looking at your phone and the people in the warehouse honestly couldn't care less.
Wow, thanks for the massive amounts of information folks, truly.
A couple question though.
1. If I Install an older version and root using towelroot...
Would I be able to keep my device up to date with the performance updates Samsung releases?
2. These custom recoveries/kernels that would trip Knox? What do they mean and what advantages do they have?
3. If I do end up tripping Knox, can I un-trip it?
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Wow, thanks for the massive amounts of information folks, truly.
A couple question though.
1. If I Install an older version and root using towelroot...
Would I be able to keep my device up to date with the performance updates Samsung releases?
2. These custom recoveries/kernels that would trip Knox? What do they mean and what advantages do they have?
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I'm not sure on the first one, so I'll let someone else answer.
The reason I chose to use the root method that tripped knox is I knew I was going to flash a custom rom later on. I would really recommend flashing the CM11 rom in the forum. If you wait a few days, most if not all the bugs will be ironed out and it'll be just as stable as stock.
As to what they mean, recoveries are what you use to flash and backup roms (they can be used for more, but this is what most people use) and kernels would just add MUCH more control over the inner workings of the phone (performance, screen calibration, button tweaks, etc).
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Last question,
If I root using an old kernel would it be possible to install updates without breaking root? Someway to keep the kernels just get the improvments?
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Last question,
If I root using an old kernel would it be possible to install updates without breaking root? Someway to keep the kernels just get the improvments?
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here are two threads concerning how to update without losing root and or tripping knox. i suggest you read as much as you can b efore doing anything http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
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That's not always the case. Before rooting, I called T-Mobile a few times speaking to different representatives each time and asked them to explicitly describe their policy on rooting and Knox, and how it relates their JUMP! program (T-mobile's warranty/insurance and upgrade service) with regards to upgrading and general insurance repair/replacement.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID: If the Knox counter is tripped we will know/find out and you will no longer be eligible for upgrading nor replacement in accordance to the JUMP! program. In fact, a couple of them went into further detail that I could be liable for paying the full remaining price plus a fine if I were to attempt to upgrade/replace a Knox tripped phone.
THAT SAID, the employee that I bought the phone nonchalantly remarked when I asked him about rooting the phone with respect to the JUMP! program that T-Mobile would honor the JUMP! program despite root. HOWEVER he said nothing about a Knox tripped phone. Perhaps he equivocated meant that a towelrooted phone may be accepted but a full-fledged Knox tripped phone may not.
TL;DR:
T-Mobile representative/"official" web-sources say Knox tripped phones will not be eligible for the JUMP! program.
ONE employee at a T-Mobile store seemed to be willing to accept a rooted phone with regards to the JUMP! program.
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Yeah if you call them and ask they will tell you that ... Its completely the opposite of what happens when you bring a knox tripped phone in for an upgrade or whatever .. Think about it ... If you have jump then you have premium handset protection which means you can throw your phone at a wall and take it to tmobile and get a new one . They would way rather get a knox tripped phone that they can resell without having to pay for parts or anything like that ...I have been using tmobile for years and they never ever check for know . Knox voids the manufacturers warranty not the handset protection. The sales people really don't know jack about anything . There only fix for anything is to do a factory reset . At the end of the day Tmobile wants you to have a device so they can give you a bill monthly . Its bad business to take away equipment that makes you money . Im saying this from personal experience and basic common sense . Plus I have a friend that worked at tmobile for some time . When I bought my GS5 I rooted it while I was still in the store waiting for them to finish my transaction and even showed the sales guy how towelroot works . Jump is kinda a waste anyway cause you have to have half your device paid off to JUMP , when you can just sell your phone outright to pay the other half off .Especially if you buy flagship phones . I sold my GS4 for 320 which was more than what Jump would have covered
I like this!
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Fair enough and I appreciate the elaboration. You described yourself as cautious which is fine. It's an individual choice whether to rely upon common practice or only trust what is official policy. You can decide what is best for yourself.
My perspective is that life is nothing if not learning to read between the lines. Have you ever read the back of a movie rental contract? Or car rental.. or rent almost anything contract? If you took the worst case, they have the right should you ever be late in returning the rented item to literally bust down your door, retrieve the rented item and not be held responsible for damage to your home. Not to mention collect hundreds of dollars in penalties for "being forced" to repatriate their overdue rental.
It would be naive to think that is common practice or likely to happen though. And that is the lesson of worst case scenarios. It's wise to know about them, but you also have to make a judgement as too how likely they are to occur. The alternative would be to refrain from doing many common place activities and live something like a hermit.
There is no reason that you or anyone else need agree though. That's just my take on it.
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:good: That right there was a lesson in life!
spirodave said:
Jump is kinda a waste anyway cause you have to have half your device paid off to JUMP , when you can just sell your phone outright to pay the other half off .Especially if you buy flagship phones . I sold my GS4 for 320 which was more than what Jump would have covered
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Not the old JUMP. That lets me upgrade twice per year without having to pay off 50%.