[Q] is development here dead? - HTC Amaze 4G

hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?

No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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ziggy46 said:
hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?
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Multiple different 3.0 ROMs, a 3.5 and ics in the works. Themes, mods, and toolkits can all be found. Feel free to change custom boot animation if you want. Haven't heard any update on miui.
Not sure I understand your question... What else do you need? Your question "is there anything we can do..." Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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glacierguy said:
Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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LMFAO maybe we should get you a skirt and some pom poms? let me know, ill be there, camera in hand

well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?

ziggy46 said:
well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?
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Can't change splash screen without s=off... Only animations. AFAIK, s=off is a security flag put into a system partition to prevent us from flashing new radios, flashing splas screens, or flashing kernels in recovery... HTC has made it more difficult for devs to access this and hack the exploit, so we are for now... Stuck. Team Revolutionary has hacked a few devices, but they don't have an amaze.
It's becoming a pain in the ass. Because the phone is a North American marketed device (vs a world market device)lacks worldwide development... And devs that are in the states that can get the phone don't want it because no s=off.
There's approx a $1k bounty out for whoever hacks it though.... Although nobody seems to be biting on it.
The Amaze forum is a mess... Lol but the phone is a beast.
Edit.... As far as I know, the phone cannot be bricked. I've yet to hear of any "real" brick... Only soft bricks that can be fixed.
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its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.

well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?

seansk said:
its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.
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agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it

I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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ziggy46 said:
well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?
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Thats getting updated on The All you need to know thread!!

mrmako777 said:
...i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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HA!
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eggydrums said:
I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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Well you got a better phone at least :/
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where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that

glacierguy said:
HA!
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dont you just love those surprise posts?

mrmako777 said:
agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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agreed again!!! for me all I need is cyanogen 9 and a good kernel!!

ziggy46 said:
where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that
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Dont Worry Bout it man, just give out info you havnt seen before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545464
Theres the thread were all the updates are, if you know something that isnt there just pm me

Sensation gets mad love, why?
I've been looking at what's been going on at xda & it seems like development for the Amaze is moving but not as fast as the sensation. Is it easier to develop for that phone than it is for this one. I known this phone has more power than the sensation so why are there so many ROMs for the sensation. Thanks for all your help guys.
eggydrums said:
No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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I am going to wait and see how the new phones that T-Mobile gets. If the One X has more development, might as well to switch over with something that has more activity.

I would say there are two main differences between this phone and the Sensation. (1) The Sensation is owned by far more people (ergo, more developers), and (2) Development is more difficult without S-off. I'm just guessing here, because I'm not a developer, but those seem to be our biggest problems.
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(Q) im sorry but ... I have to ask

Please do not take this the wrong way as I am very thankful to xda and all of the developers here but didn't we get source a few days ago? Is that what we needed to get things started rom and kernel wise... or are we still waiting on something else? Sorry... its just that it seems to be a little dead so im just wondering as my 30 days are coming to an end... again I mean this very sincerely please donot not flame ...
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iSaint said:
Please do not take this the wrong way as I am very thankful to xda and all of the developers here but didn't we get source a few days ago? Is that what we needed to get things started rom and kernel wise... or are we still waiting on something else? Sorry... its just that it seems to be a little dead so im just wondering as my 30 days are coming to an end... again I mean this very sincerely please donot not flame ...
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I was wondering the same thing.. part of what makes a device fun (for me) is the ability to satisfy my urge to tweak it, flash it, and all that crap.. I miss flashing new stuff every couple days..
Although, to be fair, this device is pretty damn slick out of the box..
still.. I'd love to have something to flash .. I'm not gonna root till CM7 is available and stable.. heh. (reminds me of zanderman and the Epic)
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I would really suggest unlocking, flash Alien rom, relock, use bootstrap, make a backup, restore the backup, wipe data and then flash star wars rom + update, wipe cache and then flash alien theme. You will get so much better battery life it is unbelievable, plus it's super smooth.
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i might consider it.. i'm waiting to molest my phone at least until I decide if I'm going to keep it or get the GS2
I raped my Epic as soon as I got it home hahahaha...
I haven't popped the cherry on my wife's Nesus S 4G yet.. just waiting till after our 30days.. (you know, waiting till we're committed haha)
daddymikey1975 said:
I was wondering the same thing.. part of what makes a device fun (for me) is the ability to satisfy my urge to tweak it, flash it, and all that crap.. I miss flashing new stuff every couple days..
Although, to be fair, this device is pretty damn slick out of the box..
still.. I'd love to have something to flash .. I'm not gonna root till CM7 is available and stable.. heh. (reminds me of zanderman and the Epic)
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Lol we are in the exact same boat .... just wondering if things will pick up or what....
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patience is a virtue rarely practiced. development will come. shabby is getting his photon on tuesday
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patience is a virtue rarely practiced. development will come. shabby is getting his photon on tuesday
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Im patient dude ... just wanted to know if it was going to pick up or if it would stay this quite... its an awesome phone and I want to see what this baby can do ....
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newalker91 said:
Unfortunately some of the best developers on this forum have turned into the evil apple fanboy twins in denial and refuse to leave HTC products. Despite the obvious superiority of the Photon over the Evo 3D, they refuse to pick one up simply because it is Motorola. Their argument is "It's Motorola and they don't unlock bootloaders", but they haven't even looked to see that it is unlocked. Be it what it may, we have kennethpenn and seanzscreams and I love them both dearly for putting all the effort they have into two great ROM's. This phone has been everything I want and more even on stock software, so I'm not upset of the Evo forum /bb/tards don't find their way into this section and it remains quiet here. Granted I'd love to see the power of this phone be unlocked, I doubt it'll happen with HTC and Samsung holding so many developers by the balls with the bells and whistles of nonfunctioning products.
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The thing about seanscreams and Kenneth penn is there developing for our photons and they don't even own one. I think us photon users should throw them a small donation or something.
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iSaint said:
Im patient dude ... just wanted to know if it was going to pick up or if it would stay this quite... its an awesome phone and I want to see what this baby can do ....
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It will. Our phone is so similar to the Atrix that they will be able to help as well. I am not getting into the hype of the SGS2. Will be a great phone but the Photon is much more of a power house. We have only just got source. Once AOSP gets ported things will be lovely.
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It will. Our phone is so similar to the Atrix that they will be able to help as well. I am not getting into the hype of the SGS2. Will be a great phone but the Photon is much more of a power house. We have only just got source. Once AOSP gets ported things will be lovely.
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I agree with u. I'm sorry. I had an evo4g and the 3d just doesn't live up to its predecessor. The photon was just the better choice
I wish there was an online school, maybe run by the devs, to give guidance on how to create roms and kernels. I know there are forums with directions, but allot of it I just don't understand. Unless a dev takes you under his wing and explains it to you, it is very difficult to learn. Maybe some type of online chat and examples, and there would be a membership fee to attend. This way the devs would be compensated for their time. If there were say hundreds people enrolled, the cost would be minimal. Just thinking out loud. Wish I new more so I could help the community. I have already learned more about it than I ever thought I would, do to lack of development with some of the phones I have chosen. Either way, I'm keeping this Mopho!
once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
It got my attention!
Makes happy shabby
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shabbypenguin said:
once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
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Thanks Shabby, the one thing I miss from my Epic is the SFR Rom, still have the ACS updater app (though nothing to download lol). And Bricky, I am totally with you. I don't consider myself stupid (heck I run a QA group), and have been working with MS products for longer than I care to admit, and I even bought the
"Android for beginners", which is ok, but there is alot to consume, it would be great to have a mentor. I'd love to help out, hell I'd be happy to test ROM's, the more knowledge the better.
shabbypenguin said:
once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
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You told me Tuesday
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You told me Tuesday
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as a technicality, tuesday IS 'sometime next week'
I would totally love to sport an ACS "Mo-Pho'kin" ROM bwahahaha
(it's a spinn off mo-pho and the SRF shuriken... yeah, that's it )
as an aside, I have a methodical mind and would love to read and apply... so tell us Shabby, where's a good place to start (to learn to develop).. point me and I shall read... hah
Lol that would be such a cool name ...."one bad MoPho'kin Rom"...
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I believe there are a few devs working hard with the new source. Hopefully we will see something after this weekend I also sure wouldn't mind a lazy man's root and unlock method like the folks in the evo section have
iSaint said:
Lol that would be such a cool name ...."one bad MoPho'kin Rom"...
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i would totally be honored if he used it... heh

[BOUNTY] For Porting MIUI ROM For PHOTON 4G

I would like to start a Bounty thread for anyone to make a working ROM of MIUI Rom.I would throw $20 in the pot to get this done.
Dont think in a negative way that I am trying to buy the devs n all.
I know there are lot of people around the world want this great ROM for our great Device.
I was using Motorola Defy for a a longtime with MIUI ROM installed from the first day & guess what now i cant even think about using the naked Android ROM and UI.
Friends out there:
Please help the Devs
Modslease edit or Delete the thread if it is against the Forum Rules & Regulations
Regards
This will probably be the next thing to be worked on after we get CM7 up and running. Which we're getting closer on. So you'll probably have to be patient Bud.
Miui on the photon lol? Yeah it'll be about a year before thats achieved. Dont hold your breath...
seeing as miui is 98% cm7 with very little else its honestly not that hard to imagine, however someone outside of the miui team wont have the necessary files to build from source
Is there another Motorola qHD device with a port? Looks like MIUIs only official Motorola phone is the Defy.
like i said once cm7 is going good im sure someone will pm warrtack as he is/was an miui member
I think it is in the works already actually..I remember seeing them saying they were working on a port on the miui forums...
From miuius twitter: @hunter7773 soon im working on miui for photon so as soon as its done port for electrify should be just a few changes
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And from the forum a member claims to be working on one...the tweet was from October 11th so still pretty recent.
Is it that close to CM7?
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shabbypenguin said:
like i said once cm7 is going good im sure someone will pm warrtack as he is/was an miui member
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CM7 will be the roadway for a working MIUI rom!!
Sorry to start such a thread guyz.
Now i see lots of threads poping out with sentences like "wer is x rom,wer is y rom".
Mods please close this thread
The photon section looks ugly with these kinda threads
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Asking a legimate question about the development of a ROM if anyone is gonna work on it is way different then asking for ETA's and complaining about a lack of ROM's imo.
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^this^^^
you are concerned with a particular project and are so much wanting it you are trying to set up a bounty. not in here asking why its not done.. you get a gold star in my book
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^this^^^
you are concerned with a particular project and are so much wanting it you are trying to set up a bounty. not in here asking why its not done.. you get a gold star in my book
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Agreed.
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Do these Ever work
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Do what work? Bountys?
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lavans4u said:
Sorry to start such a thread guyz.
Now i see lots of threads poping out with sentences like "wer is x rom,wer is y rom".
Mods please close this thread
The photon section looks ugly with these kinda threads
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If you don't ask......
Please Mods, Don't Ban ME I'm ugly!
You never get an answer.
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2fast4u has done miui ports for other deivces like the HTC Desire (CDMA) and is working on the photon atm
http://2fastroms.com/viewtopic.php?f=116&t=495
But from what I was reading, they don't have it booting yet and it has been put on the back burner for the time being.
I would be very happy & willing to chip-in for the bounty on this !!!!
My MoPho will be arriving within the next 2 days, and I'll be relinquishing my beloved Evo to my wife (her phone crapped out and she's waiting for the iPhone...we're on the sprint family plan, so we can't get them until all public need has been met --- probably can't get it until February).
Anyhoooooo I LOVE Miui on my Evo and have it running like butter. But the MoPho is alleged to get better signal quality (I live out in the boonies now with no 4G and a weak 3g signal) and I tether off my phone for most of my internet needs.
On a side note --- I just started cruising the MoPho forums - why are there so few ROM's for this phone? Seems like a great device with very little Dev support ???

Developers leaving or moving?

I'm sure this has been noticed and asked prior to this post. We all read the phenomenon in these threads and posts.
Question: Does it seem like some of the best Developers are leaving and moving their work to their own or core group based sites?
Why?
just concerned since I can count more than a few who've left, for whatever reason, in the last 6 months...
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Drama I guess. I'm kinda bummed that my old og Evo is more popular for development than my 3d. I thought most would move to the new phone.
It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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Did quick search it. Seems to me that either you are in or not. With our phone being difficult to get the basics functional, the practice of running off the guys that move development forward is slowing progress to a crawl.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Oohaylima, Haha. You said it, we ain't going anywhere....
It does totally suck.
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Its nice to see I am not the only one who is feeling the same way. The saddest thing is the only people truly hurt by this are the end users like us...
My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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You are right on the money sir!
Developers leaving or moving
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
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And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
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y u bump 2 month old thread. Just like the Ancien Regime was inappropriate for its time, this thread is inappropriate for ours. Check the all new ics leak roms nao and u will see.
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Thats beside the point and FYI I'm fully aware of all ics releases old and new how many ics leaks can you get your hands on
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One question.....

WHY THE HECK DOES THE REZOUND HAVE ICS, SENSE ICS AND EVEN SENSE 3.6???????? is there anything they have that we don't have???
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Relax bro. HTC has to release the source code for this stuff.
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Relax bro. HTC has to release the source code for this stuff.
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that and they have a much bigger dev coummunity!! SGSII on t-mobile basically swayed many many more people towards it than the amaze, they both came out at the same time...if the amaze would have been released on a different date we would see a different dev community. rezound also has more bling with the beats audio, so more people buy it and it has a 720p screen, same camera as the htc amaze...its a better version of our phone...If I had the money to pay monthly for the verizon plans I would have def gone with the rezound over any phone. I think it's the best phone on the market right now. IMO amaze is the best phone on t-mobile right now.
I think the amaze is sexier though. Lol, freakin rezound man =[
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Man... I have absolutely no luck with android phones
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eggydrums said:
Man... I have absolutely no luck with android phones
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I feel yah :[
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Man... I have absolutely no luck with android phones
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actually the phone itself is very good, it just needs more dev's. so you are actually lucky to have a great phone .
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actually the phone itself is very good, it just needs more dev's. so you are actually lucky to have a great phone .
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Yeah I know, what I mean is that when I buy an android phone, it just always happens to lack development I know its a great phone frickin love it
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eggydrums said:
Yeah I know, what I mean is that when I buy an android phone, it just always happens to lack development I know its a great phone frickin love it
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Just out of curiosity, what was your last device?
Chance Ill said:
Just out of curiosity, what was your last device?
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I know this question wasn't directed toward me but I'll answer...
I came from a Blackberry and the Amaze is my first android phone. First day I got it I was hooked and did tons of research on Rooting it (didn't even know what rooting was/is)
Totally hooked now, if I knew about the whole ROM/rooting thing before the amaze, I probably would have went a different route, with a different phone that had more devs.
Ah well, patience is a virtue. Whatever that means!
j cal said:
I know this question wasn't directed toward me but I'll answer...
I came from a Blackberry and the Amaze is my first android phone. First day I got it I was hooked and did tons of research on Rooting it (didn't even know what rooting was/is)
Totally hooked now, if I knew about the whole ROM/rooting thing before the amaze, I probably would have went a different route, with a different phone that had more devs.
Ah well, patience is a virtue. Whatever that means!
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I understand. The ''hold up'' that HTC has caused with the not releasing source, S-on, etc will pass. When? If HTC keeps it's word and update the Amaze this quarter with ICS, that will definitely breath new life into development.
Chance Ill said:
Just out of curiosity, what was your last device?
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I had I a mytouch slide, but I began hacking and stuff when my mom wanted froyo on her g1. I liked android soooo I got the slide. After like 9 months the slide began to give me problems, like whenever I slide out the keyboard the screen would get screwed, the volume keys were broken don't ask me why, oh, and I was in my car and it fell on a plastic cup with water. I got the amaze after like 2 weeks after its release, I've watched its development grow
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And yeah its stupid that HTC hasn't released the source code!!
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Chance Ill said:
I understand. The ''hold up'' that HTC has caused with the not releasing source, S-on, etc will pass. When? If HTC keeps it's word and update the Amaze this quarter with ICS, that will definitely breath new life into development.
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I don't know about that man... Were you impressed with HTC's 2.3.4 with Sense 3.0 for our Amaze right out of the box? 'Cause I wasn't
The only good thing I can see about HTC releasing ICS is so our devs here can use that code to make better custom ROMs since we have no support from CyanogenMod
adslee said:
I don't know about that man... Were you impressed with HTC's 2.3.4 with Sense 3.0 for our Amaze right out of the box? 'Cause I wasn't
The only good thing I can see about HTC releasing ICS is so our devs here can use that code to make better custom ROMs since we have no support from CyanogenMod
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Coming from the sensation, let's just say my expectations was not met in regards to Sense, but I knew this before I bought the device. That being said, this device is what the sensation was suppose to be in terms of sheer power (1gb RAM, S3 1.5 snapdragon, 2.2 camera sensor, etc.) I'm convinced I made the right decision, HTC just dragging thier a**!
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I came from the Hero which had lots of devs, cm support and a great and supportive community. I have to say that I haven't found the Amaze community to be as welcoming and helpful. Half the responses to questions are "do a search." I know I'll get flamed for saying this but I suspect that I'm not alone. I love the Amaze, but I'm beginning to feel like I've chosen the wrong phone.
I really hope that when ICS source is released dev takes off and I'm proven wrong.
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood right now.
I feel the same way. Sometimes I feel like I should have just went with the unlocked version if the galaxy nexus. I hate touchwiz, so it was either amaze or galaxy nexus
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fuego77 said:
I feel the same way. Sometimes I feel like I should have just went with the unlocked version if the galaxy nexus. I hate touchwiz, so it was either amaze or galaxy nexus
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I hate TouchWiz too, but even back then when I ran stock on my SGS I just used a third party launcher over it and it worked well... You shouldn't let TouchWiz be a deal breaker for you, especially since you could replace the whole Samsung framework with CyanogenMod
marleyfan61 said:
I came from the Hero which had lots of devs, cm support and a great and supportive community. I have to say that I haven't found the Amaze community to be as welcoming and helpful. Half the responses to questions are "do a search." I know I'll get flamed for saying this but I suspect that I'm not alone. I love the Amaze, but I'm beginning to feel like I've chosen the wrong phone.
I really hope that when ICS source is released dev takes off and I'm proven wrong.
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood right now.
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I agree. The Amaze community is somewhat hostile and counter-productive. I know a few devs that I talk to often that feel this way as well. While the redundancy of certain questions can be answered but simply searching, 5 individuals saying search could be avoided if only one of them actually answered the question IMO.
Realistically, I see "do a search" more than I see the actual question being asked or answered.
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marleyfan61 said:
I came from the Hero which had lots of devs, cm support and a great and supportive community. I have to say that I haven't found the Amaze community to be as welcoming and helpful. Half the responses to questions are "do a search." I know I'll get flamed for saying this but I suspect that I'm not alone. I love the Amaze, but I'm beginning to feel like I've chosen the wrong phone.
I really hope that when ICS source is released dev takes off and I'm proven wrong.
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood right now.
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The reason why we say do a search is because we have 3 threads that are stickied. We have been received the same questions over and over and if you look at these 3 threads, it should answer your question. If it doesn't, then make a thread about it.
[HOW TO] ROOT HTC RUBY / AMAZE 4G
FAQ for the HTC Amaze 4G. Read Frequently Asked Questions before you post a question!
[READ THIS FIRST]MAC, PC, LINUX Unlock, recovery, root, troubleshoot, camera quality
There should be no reason why you should ignore it. I spent time and effort searching through the whole forum of questions so I can make my FAQ thread. If I did that to make life simple for people, they should atleast take the time to look through it. We put our time and effort to make life simple but people do not choose to read, which aggravates us.
Sorry for sounding like a jacka$$, but I am simply trying to show you why we tell people to search. If they just look at the stickied threads, they will save themselves time as well as ours.

Thinking about an Inc 4G

I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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the more the merrier
its a damn good phone all we need is s-off and let the good times roll
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
nitsuj17 said:
i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
nitsuj17 said:
well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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Yea I just talked to Andy on gtalk before I posted here...
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I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
:good::good:
Of course we want you here.
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andybones said:
I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
:good::good:
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I see this as a great phone with lots of potential. I too am looking for a semi-stock (i.e. sense-based) daily driver that will suit my needs/wants. So far, what I've seen is that this (currently small) community has been extremely cooperative and respectful.
Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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Howdy Newt! Loved your work in the past on other devices...would be an honor having you here man. Crossing my fingers hoping you pick up this phone
This community is awesome, you won't regret it. I don't even like to think about the rezound community any more...gives me chills...
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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i hear ya, just at present there is no one to work with
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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I do remember some of your great work. Some of them found a home on my OG Dinc for a while. As such, I feel I should clarify my "semi-stock" statement. Your "Optimized Shift" and "Incredible Sensation" ROMs could be included in my in my "semi-stock" comment - You take the best/newest from various sources (leaks, other "newer" phones) and make them work seamlessly within the target device. If I'm using the wrong terminology, please feel free to correct me as I certainly did not mean to offend. I too would be very happy if you were to pick up one of these phones!

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