I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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the more the merrier
its a damn good phone all we need is s-off and let the good times roll
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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Yea I just talked to Andy on gtalk before I posted here...
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I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
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Of course we want you here.
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andybones said:
I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I see this as a great phone with lots of potential. I too am looking for a semi-stock (i.e. sense-based) daily driver that will suit my needs/wants. So far, what I've seen is that this (currently small) community has been extremely cooperative and respectful.
Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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Howdy Newt! Loved your work in the past on other devices...would be an honor having you here man. Crossing my fingers hoping you pick up this phone
This community is awesome, you won't regret it. I don't even like to think about the rezound community any more...gives me chills...
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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i hear ya, just at present there is no one to work with
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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I do remember some of your great work. Some of them found a home on my OG Dinc for a while. As such, I feel I should clarify my "semi-stock" statement. Your "Optimized Shift" and "Incredible Sensation" ROMs could be included in my in my "semi-stock" comment - You take the best/newest from various sources (leaks, other "newer" phones) and make them work seamlessly within the target device. If I'm using the wrong terminology, please feel free to correct me as I certainly did not mean to offend. I too would be very happy if you were to pick up one of these phones!
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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htc>motorola>****sung
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?
No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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ziggy46 said:
hey everyone... is development here dead or what? i saw ics was being worked on but got dropped. along with miui, a senseless rom, and others...
is there anything we can do to make more development here?
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Multiple different 3.0 ROMs, a 3.5 and ics in the works. Themes, mods, and toolkits can all be found. Feel free to change custom boot animation if you want. Haven't heard any update on miui.
Not sure I understand your question... What else do you need? Your question "is there anything we can do..." Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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glacierguy said:
Yes there is something. You could always get s=off for us... There's like a 1k bounty that will reward you for your success.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and will be cheering for you
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LMFAO maybe we should get you a skirt and some pom poms? let me know, ill be there, camera in hand
well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?
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well i've personally never owned any htc phones. so when i get the amaze 4g, it will be my first. i've made many roms and mods for phones with vanilla android though.
what exactly is s=off and how do you make a htc phone "s=off"?
also, i dont see any boot logo changing threads...
heres my boot logo thread: http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ed-converter-l-updated-12-29-1-20-pm-est.html
so if i am able to figure something out, i should have some goods to bring to the party!
how high is the chance of bricking on this device?
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Can't change splash screen without s=off... Only animations. AFAIK, s=off is a security flag put into a system partition to prevent us from flashing new radios, flashing splas screens, or flashing kernels in recovery... HTC has made it more difficult for devs to access this and hack the exploit, so we are for now... Stuck. Team Revolutionary has hacked a few devices, but they don't have an amaze.
It's becoming a pain in the ass. Because the phone is a North American marketed device (vs a world market device)lacks worldwide development... And devs that are in the states that can get the phone don't want it because no s=off.
There's approx a $1k bounty out for whoever hacks it though.... Although nobody seems to be biting on it.
The Amaze forum is a mess... Lol but the phone is a beast.
Edit.... As far as I know, the phone cannot be bricked. I've yet to hear of any "real" brick... Only soft bricks that can be fixed.
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its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.
well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?
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its not dead but, I have a feeling its going to be soon. with the discontinuation of the amaze... the parting of xboarder and binary to their own forum. The forum has lost its momentum. what is left from development is from before. compared to the sgsII forum, you can def call the amaze dead on development. yes xboarder is working on ICS and cyanogen is planning of an AOSP rom. I think we will see no other kernel developers besides faux, unless it's for ICS.. and I think the developers we have now are the only ones that we've got. With the anouncement of new HTC phones more developers are going to shift gears...some developers from here might even shift gears...they might send us an update on a rom here and there but that'll be it. if you look at the development of successful phones such as the nexus one, samsung vibrant, galaxy nexus etc, all of them are still going very very strong even though they came out 2 years ago, the vibrant a 2 year old phone already has multiple ICS roms available, multiple kernels, etc. we're pretty much done here. the developers we have here had to be bountied anyways. My personal opinion is that there is no interest left in the amaze development wise besides a couple of developers....sorry but have to be realistic.
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agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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ziggy46 said:
well heres the most current cm9 progress https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
just got updated like 20 mins ago....
plus when i get the phone i will try to make roms for it.
also, what do you have to acomplish to get s=off? does anyone here know?
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Thats getting updated on The All you need to know thread!!
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...i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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HA!
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eggydrums said:
I can't believe I went to tmo to buy a sensation, came out with the amaze jusr cuz I wanted. Man, all I wanted was roms!!
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Well you got a better phone at least :/
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where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that
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HA!
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dont you just love those surprise posts?
mrmako777 said:
agreed, but dont be so pessimistic. not having 654987651321 roms is not the end of the world. as long as we have a few, good roms, we're golden. i REALLY need miui tho and im willing to sell glacierguy's soul to get it
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agreed again!!! for me all I need is cyanogen 9 and a good kernel!!
ziggy46 said:
where's that thread? is it the amaze bible thread? and was it there before i posted this? if so sorry for that
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Dont Worry Bout it man, just give out info you havnt seen before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545464
Theres the thread were all the updates are, if you know something that isnt there just pm me
Sensation gets mad love, why?
I've been looking at what's been going on at xda & it seems like development for the Amaze is moving but not as fast as the sensation. Is it easier to develop for that phone than it is for this one. I known this phone has more power than the sensation so why are there so many ROMs for the sensation. Thanks for all your help guys.
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No development is not dead, if your new here, there are a couple things you should know. First, the dev doing all the work here, xboarder56, was banned I believe, he has his own forum and all of his roms are there. Nrgz28, an awesome dev, has an amazing rom. Faux123 has a kernel for OC/UV. Ics is being worked on by xboarder and a member of the cm team. A sense 4.0 port is on the works by a dev in xboarders forum. So, no, development is not dead. If we want more devs devving here, I think we should do what has been done before, a bounty. I believe someone has spoken to a member of the virtious team.
Edit: sorry, xboarder is working on an aosp build with texasice if you know who he is. And the cm team is working on, well, A cm9 build
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I am going to wait and see how the new phones that T-Mobile gets. If the One X has more development, might as well to switch over with something that has more activity.
I would say there are two main differences between this phone and the Sensation. (1) The Sensation is owned by far more people (ergo, more developers), and (2) Development is more difficult without S-off. I'm just guessing here, because I'm not a developer, but those seem to be our biggest problems.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
All the broken roms has " WIP" which means work in progress, and ignorant ppl like you should not even look at it!! So stay away from all this!
Oh and these devs are not working their ass of to please you..nobody cares if you like this pattern or not, its a development forum!
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Not true. The first word in developer is develop, which means to make progress. As you've seen in the last week, that's exactly what they've been doing. Don't lash out at the developers when you don't even have your own rom for the amaze. I've been lurking here for the past few months and i've been very happy with the strides made with this device.
As the old saying goes, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Go away with your whining or I shall taunt you a second time.
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This will not end well for you, way to show support for those working on their own time to get this stuff out for us...prick
please do not make threads like this if its not helping the community please remove this silly thread and to everyone else dont dignify what he said with a response thank you
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
Just wanna say I have been gitty over the strides made recently. If sports gets CM anything working with 4G. He is getting some money from me and I am sure a lot of us
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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Yessiirrr support WIP to death lol :thumbup:
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This forum is not for users its for developers you don't even belong here we don't make Roms for you there for ourselves. We have no obligation to do anything for anyone
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Agreed I'm not exactly a dev but I try to help users as much as my knowledge allows and for wip roms are just a sign saying more to come soon
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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All the roms will be working tomorrow, just for you buddy.....
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tofuwrice said:
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
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+1 for this. I've been using this Site for 4+ years, and I rarely post because I READ EVERYTHING. I know a lot of these roms are wip and I know that before I download them. The OP needs to pull his head out of his ass and show some respect to the developers that make our phones seem new everyday.
Lock this immidiatly!!! This guy isnt worthy of xda
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I like this forum for he reason I can learn and people will help me do that. I may not post what I have developed but if I wanted to I would hope to get better respect than what you are giving. Grow up and leave, this helps no one.
WRONG SECTION, MORON
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nat4u 28th June 2012, 02:41 PM #1
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Jellybean 4 the Amaze
We have a system dump for Jellybean so how long until devs port it to our phone and if its even possible. I have seen AWESOME work from the devs on this forum, and all I can say "BRAVO" you guys are brilliant.
Nat
to post this ****.
Can I get an ETA for when you will shut the hell up?
You have got to be f*cking kidding me. If you dont like what we do, then get out of here. Be thankful you even have root. We use a lot of our own time in our lives to release something because we want to. If you don't like it, then nobody gives 2 sh*ts. We can just lock every thread and remove every link and you will have nothing to use? Do you really want that? If so, then do not even come here anymore. People like you disrespect devs and the community alike. Don't like what we do? Then do it yourself. Oh wait, you don't know how. Then f*ck off. It's your problem. Not ours.
Roms aren't broken, its you dude.
This thread should be archived in the "examples of trolling" thread.
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Hopefully locked in a few minutes.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This is 100% incorrect. XDA-Developers means we develop things. ROMs/app are an ongoing work in progress. Devs don't make ROMs just for users to come here and expect to be able to "pimp" their phones.
Oh, and the Development forum is not for posting complaints in. it's for Development work, that thing you don't seem to like.
As you all know I hit the game late, but even tho I think we will crack this baby in the near future I would still like to get a head start so if anyone has a unlocked 4G that they want to donate are make a deal let me know in pm... O have a loaded rom that I would like to put out bit o won't until o can test it and such... If there are any takers shoot me a message and ill get the ball rolling
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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root will come, same thing happened with the Rezound, htcdev worked at first (unofficially) then months later it was back officially.
same will happen with this phone IMO, AND S-OFF is being worked on already, the Rez took 6 months before S-OFF had interest
Newts Rez bricked from what he told me
I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
Man newt.. they must be rough on you bud.
Hope it gets better, sad to hear people are being an asshole to a good developer. I'd be happy to see you on the OG Incredible again or the Nexus!
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I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
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i didn't see anything like that, ????? i think people are getting antsy waiting for something, i'd just ignore it.who cares what they say!
I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I've been doing this along time and I know about trolls trust me, but I want whoever has the problem to speak up but they prob wont
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Can we just agree to ignore it? Drama comes in many forms.
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I have never and will never rate a thread. Either it applies to you or it doesn't. If I have a problem with what's going on in the thread, I'll address it with the problem poster.
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I hope someone comes through with a development phone for you... PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! We certainly need all the help we can get! I
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It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I don't even own this phone, I'm still on a Dinc, however I just voted the thread 5 stars, does it impact the difference of you dev for this phone or getting a used phone to dev on, it probably won't or shouldn't. I also sent the email, about the bootloader, and I spoke with VZ exceutive office about the locked bootloader, is that going to make a difference to VZ on unlocking it, probably not, but I did it for the group cause, because I would like to get this phone.
Honestly, it's guys that have the time and talent like yourself and other dev's that help make these phones what they are, if you aren't interested in this device, that's your decision too but I think 99.9% of us don't have the knowledge you do on these phones, so we greatly value your work, and would like to see you and others help us out, while we try to do what we can to help out.
I don't know what happened to the REZ forum, but I've heard it was a bunch of BS Drama, that I've never seen on the Dinc forum, maybe your burnt from that experience, don't know, but I wouldn't let a thread vote sway your opinion on this group here.
thankfully newt has an Inc4 and will be up and going once root comes.
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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I second that! :good:
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I've been here for 4 years or so, and up until this thread never bothered to notice the threads had ratings. Now that I am aware of the ratings, I will continue to ignore them.
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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you the man hasoon, GOOD LUCK
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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
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If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.