I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
All the broken roms has " WIP" which means work in progress, and ignorant ppl like you should not even look at it!! So stay away from all this!
Oh and these devs are not working their ass of to please you..nobody cares if you like this pattern or not, its a development forum!
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Not true. The first word in developer is develop, which means to make progress. As you've seen in the last week, that's exactly what they've been doing. Don't lash out at the developers when you don't even have your own rom for the amaze. I've been lurking here for the past few months and i've been very happy with the strides made with this device.
As the old saying goes, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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Go away with your whining or I shall taunt you a second time.
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This will not end well for you, way to show support for those working on their own time to get this stuff out for us...prick
please do not make threads like this if its not helping the community please remove this silly thread and to everyone else dont dignify what he said with a response thank you
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
Just wanna say I have been gitty over the strides made recently. If sports gets CM anything working with 4G. He is getting some money from me and I am sure a lot of us
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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Yessiirrr support WIP to death lol :thumbup:
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This forum is not for users its for developers you don't even belong here we don't make Roms for you there for ourselves. We have no obligation to do anything for anyone
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Agreed I'm not exactly a dev but I try to help users as much as my knowledge allows and for wip roms are just a sign saying more to come soon
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All the roms will be working tomorrow, just for you buddy.....
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Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
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+1 for this. I've been using this Site for 4+ years, and I rarely post because I READ EVERYTHING. I know a lot of these roms are wip and I know that before I download them. The OP needs to pull his head out of his ass and show some respect to the developers that make our phones seem new everyday.
Lock this immidiatly!!! This guy isnt worthy of xda
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I like this forum for he reason I can learn and people will help me do that. I may not post what I have developed but if I wanted to I would hope to get better respect than what you are giving. Grow up and leave, this helps no one.
WRONG SECTION, MORON
EDIT: How can you go from this
nat4u 28th June 2012, 02:41 PM #1
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Jellybean 4 the Amaze
We have a system dump for Jellybean so how long until devs port it to our phone and if its even possible. I have seen AWESOME work from the devs on this forum, and all I can say "BRAVO" you guys are brilliant.
Nat
to post this ****.
Can I get an ETA for when you will shut the hell up?
You have got to be f*cking kidding me. If you dont like what we do, then get out of here. Be thankful you even have root. We use a lot of our own time in our lives to release something because we want to. If you don't like it, then nobody gives 2 sh*ts. We can just lock every thread and remove every link and you will have nothing to use? Do you really want that? If so, then do not even come here anymore. People like you disrespect devs and the community alike. Don't like what we do? Then do it yourself. Oh wait, you don't know how. Then f*ck off. It's your problem. Not ours.
Roms aren't broken, its you dude.
This thread should be archived in the "examples of trolling" thread.
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Hopefully locked in a few minutes.
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This is 100% incorrect. XDA-Developers means we develop things. ROMs/app are an ongoing work in progress. Devs don't make ROMs just for users to come here and expect to be able to "pimp" their phones.
Oh, and the Development forum is not for posting complaints in. it's for Development work, that thing you don't seem to like.
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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carycooke said:
As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
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Virus is gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
ok here is a heads up how bounty works .
you dont donate up front you put your name in with the amount and once it reaches the amount needed IF the DEV still wants in at that time well THEN and THEN only everyone pays .
I have seen and heard way too many devs get paid for nothing , while the best of them struggles to get new devices .
Its way to easy to have your friends/fans open bounty for you .
I am not pointing fingers at anyone (I am sorry if you feel the hats fits you ) and I will not entertain any arguments with anyone in this thread
and I vote to sticky this !
Sticky this anyone ?
ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the matter and have mastered it... as well it helps if the devs make a chip in so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the mtter nd have mastered it as well it helps if the devs make a chip me so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you ! and they all contributed may i add
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you !
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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what rules ?
XDA rules ? read them . posting here off topic is breaking one of them btw....
I do not make them nor do I choose which get shut down , if a thread got shut down it s because it wasnt legit according to XDA not according to me .
this thread 's goal right here is so users dont give money left and right . Many users got burned already and in the end the community suffers .
We can all get together and finance great dev for coming here , I ve freely given donations many times already and will do it again .
I do not have a facebook page , I do not ask for users to buy me devices I do not make chipin pages , I own only one device ( the other one is almost 2 yrs old) I do customize the phone for my need and share with the community , some users help me some users donate , some users join me .
Some devs hate me ? sad story .
but what is your point ? if it s OT again please dont bother ./
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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ok lol so now all the t989 guys gonna come here and post to cry , what is pathetic of me exactly ?
there is a ' dev only section' for him to post there is pm and there is chat link on my sig if anyone wants to talk .. Im an open book .
please read my previous answer and stop hijacking thx
I coudl post here all that was said for what ?
Hahaha you're pathetic bud. Glad you made that more obvious for us. I'm out
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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thx for the compliment but Im not remotely close to being the best dev here on the note .
I can't blame a dev if they wanna leave the T989... phone is great but the forum is drama.
Compare it to skyrocket. Same device almost, completely different attitude. Not daily flame wars from impatient end users
Edit: it would be great to have m&s on the i717 & tdj as well... And think how much more peaceful it would be for them here. Whitehawkx would be great Dan Brutal too. And they would be appreciated instead of maybe being sorry they bought the T989
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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hes already wokrign on something else for us .
Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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ok i am not up on thos highschool drama going on butt...edit this bro, cant understand a lick
I only pay for results.
What happened to the good old days when devs bought phones instead of begging for handouts? Its one thing for everyone to gather money for the cyanogen or miui team for a port but for another flavor of our existing roms? I'm more interested in donating to a dev that can build an ics kernel.
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I think the point is that we have had some developers working hard already. One of them brought us recovery without even having the phone, and he still doesn't have the phone. Nor has he been given enough in donations to buy this phone.
And now we have a number of developers showing up looking for donations to buy this phone to develop on. It seems to me to be insulting to start throwing money at individuals who haven't done anything yet vs those that have already worked hard.
Then again, everyone has the right to give money to who they want.
I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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If that's how the t989 users act, I'm glad I purchased the Note. You're doing great Dag and don't let these kids get you down!
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...I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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+1 to this comment.
I Got my Note launch day & soon found a community that in a brief time offered me root, an OC kernal, CWM, and now 3 different ROM's that I didn't ask for or up-front pay for. That established pretty clearly that people here are doing things for others (I would be the one of the others- I have contributed now to several).
I can understand that we bring our own baggage and attitude with us when we (anyone) read(s) these forums. Please, if it sounds like a post is disingenuous, discrediting, slighting, or unflattering to someone, seek clarification before you let your attitude, especially if it's negative, run amok. It isn't necessarily how you perceived it & such vitriolic spewing can be downright poisonous to the community.
You may have a point, and it may be good for all of us to hear it, but the golden rule can't hurt, eh? Civility is an option.
As far as the thread is concerned, I think some planning and caution when it comes to donations to bring others on board is wise, so discussion about that structure is a good thing- this is a ripe field for trolls and scammers. Thanks DAGr8 for trying to set this conversation rolling.
I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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the more the merrier
its a damn good phone all we need is s-off and let the good times roll
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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Yea I just talked to Andy on gtalk before I posted here...
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I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
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Of course we want you here.
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andybones said:
I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I see this as a great phone with lots of potential. I too am looking for a semi-stock (i.e. sense-based) daily driver that will suit my needs/wants. So far, what I've seen is that this (currently small) community has been extremely cooperative and respectful.
Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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Howdy Newt! Loved your work in the past on other devices...would be an honor having you here man. Crossing my fingers hoping you pick up this phone
This community is awesome, you won't regret it. I don't even like to think about the rezound community any more...gives me chills...
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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i hear ya, just at present there is no one to work with
newtoroot said:
Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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I do remember some of your great work. Some of them found a home on my OG Dinc for a while. As such, I feel I should clarify my "semi-stock" statement. Your "Optimized Shift" and "Incredible Sensation" ROMs could be included in my in my "semi-stock" comment - You take the best/newest from various sources (leaks, other "newer" phones) and make them work seamlessly within the target device. If I'm using the wrong terminology, please feel free to correct me as I certainly did not mean to offend. I too would be very happy if you were to pick up one of these phones!
Ok guys I am starting this thread due to being told in other threads that I'm not permitted to have opinions and having them removed , or having good questions that are taken as flaming , but don't seem to get answered .
All that I ask is please if you do rant don't name anyone in particular , do not name teams . We do not need mods swooping in and deleting anyone's issues . Thank you .
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I presonally dont think the One XxX rom needed to be locked down.
I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Very good point .
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Who is putting down other roms ? All that was said was if the Rom has had no development in months and the thread is being cluttered with irrelevant posts and NO DEVELOPEMENT is being made then that thread alone should be closed until developement is made.
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One XXX was locked down because of CoreDroid tweaks, there is a rom that hasnt been updated in 4 months that has about the same thing, a team has decided that One XXX has to be locked because it contains CoreDroid tweaks, the rom that hasnt been updated for 4 months is supported by the same team.
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
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Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
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So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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Also please no names and no teams ,,, I don't want anyone getting upset .
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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I think it would just be good if all devs would get along and not bicker over if some code got taken, now when i say this i dont mean its alright to take all the aspects of a rom and make basically the same exact thing, but if its a few bits of code that are the same or similar why take the whole thing down? If all devs were like that we would have quite a few problems, and nothing would be done. I also understand that giving credits would be nice too if any code was taken or used in a rom. Also if they want some code taken out why not PM the dev and ask for it to be taken out instead of having the whole thing locked down? This is just my opinion as well, so if you dont agree with it, I dont care.
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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This is a general discussion and RANT thread , everyone here is entitled to their own opinions here , we will not flame here , but yes I believe this thread was needed . As I posted in the op I'm tired of seeing my questions and my posts being deleted due to my opinion not being like . I have read the xda rules and my posts did not violate the rules but were deleted anyways thus me creating a thread where everyone's opinions could be heard . Thank you .
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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Its always good to have a vent.
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Its always good to have a vent.
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True, but really all of this should have been kept between the mods and devs. The users whining about it didn't help anything and only worsens the situation. Like we all don't know who you are talking about.
That had been the biggest problem with the rezound, devs doing their fighting and whatnot publicly. Devs like Chad and nils don't do that and if you look in their thread there isn't any of this garbage. They do their work and release it as they see fit, when they see fit.
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So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
Yes , but also realize that everyone can come to this thread and discuss or rant about anything from roms to that cop that wrote you a ticket , it doesn't matter that's why its in general discussion . I want a thread where all opinions are equal and someone should not be affraid of the mods coming down on them for their opinions .
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*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
demmo86rt said:
That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
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Actually I let the common adult figure out who I'm talking about , I'm not naming anyone it is you using common sense to see it . And once again one dev says not to use his stuff and it gets used - nothing happens , that same dev who broke the rule gets his stuff used and all hell breaks loose ,,,, why the double standard ? The rules go both ways . Does it not ?
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Thread Is closed as offtopic as it has nothing to do with the device itself.
Rather you are discussing moderating decisions and actions without knowing the background.
Leave this between devs and mods, its not your job to judge.
Consider this a warning and don't start another rant thread or create any more issues.
Thank you
Hi everyone I ASSUME everyone here has seen we have jelly bean as of today. I want to thank the devs who work on it but one man stands out here and that is chad. While other devs have moved on to other devices other projects he stuck with us and proved to be a gift to everyone here. For the past year this guy has made everything ICS, AOSP, and now Jelly Bean (yes I'm aware they are the same) possible the guy is a machine and seriously deserves respect from this community. From what i understand this thing isn't quite ready 100%. Chad released this on good will that we understand AS A COMMUNITY recognize this is still a work in progress and that over time just as it was for ICS things will be ironed out. Work that said Chad has polietly asked we keep his threads clean and we keep bug reporting to the rom thread you use. Do not I will say again
DO NOT BOTHER CHAD WITH ANY BUG REPORTS STICK TO ROM THREADS.
I say this because I wholly respect what he has and is doing for us and hope to keep chad here as a dev for awhile his dedication and skills surpass any Dev I have ever had the pleasure of using their work. He will over time fix things i know and trust him on his word. So People of the Rezound community I emplore you to follow this rule, and allow Chad to do what he has to do.
KEEP HIS THREADS CLEAN AND DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT PM HIM ABOUT UPDATES BUGS OR HOW YOUR CAMERA DOESN'T WORK SO YOU MISSED YOUR BABIES FIRST STEPS. IT'S NOT HIS PROBLEM.
YOU AS A FLASHER HAVE TAKEN FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE.
WITH THAT SAID. I love this phone, this community, and our devs, we all continue to contribute and build on a user experience like no other phone. And if we show patience and understanding here im sure chad will reward us in the future as will the other devs. We all need him here so show your respect to him by following this threads guidelines.
SORRY FOR THE LONG THREADS. I just love android and this place I have said my peace if anyone feels this is an unnecessary thread or post pm me I will gladly remove it but i felt this was important and should even be a sticky. I hope this didnt insult or upset offend anyone just lookin out for my community.
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If Chad had allowed posting cm10 builds publicly from the start, then I never would have learned what I learned about android.
Even though builds are now floating around publicly, it's still a great idea to compile it yourself!
Not sure if the warning was necessary but I wholly agree. Don't bother Chad.
its good news for all of us rezound users,thanx CHAD
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Not sure if the warning was necessary but I wholly agree. Don't bother Chad.
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I guess it shouldn't say warning I just want to make sure people understand we need to respect chad and since many don't read before they flash maybe this could help get the word out about how we need to approach jelly bean bug reporting
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wlmeng11 said:
If Chad had allowed posting cm10 builds publicly from the start, then I never would have learned what I learned about android.
Even though builds are now floating around publicly, it's still a great idea to compile it yourself!
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I wish I knew how or was smart enough to
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zkrp5108 said:
I wish I knew how or was smart enough to
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There are a few guides in the dev section that are fairly easy to follow. That's how I learned to compile. Its written for Cm9 but all you have to do is change which repo you are synching and build. You should honestly try it out. Its a really rewarding feeling.
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I don't feel these threads help at all. You basically just rephrased what chad himself said, but you said it with RANDOM CAPS everywhere.
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I don't feel these threads help at all. You basically just rephrased what chad himself said, but you said it with RANDOM CAPS everywhere.
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I'll gladly remove it if you feel it doesn't need to be here no harm no foul just trying get general users to read that's all let me know
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I'll gladly remove it if you feel it doesn't need to be here no harm no foul just trying get general users to read that's all let me know
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I just don't think it was really necessary to threaten everyone.
If there is a problem, Chad will defend himself.
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I just don't think it was really necessary to threaten everyone.
If there is a problem, Chad will defend himself.
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Again not a threat sorry if it came off that way. I'll take it down asap. Didn't want to offend anybody and don't want to ruin my own reputation here. My apologies to chad and the community
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zkrp5108 said:
Again not a threat sorry if it came off that way. I'll take it down asap. Didn't want to offend anybody and don't want to ruin my own reputation here. My apologies to chad and the community
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Instead of taking it down, rephrasing it would be much better
wlmeng11 said:
Instead of taking it down, rephrasing it would be much better
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Good idea.
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Good idea.
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Thanks for being cool about it grey you always do a good job keeping this place in order I'll rework the op thanks for understanding. Most forums would have blown up about it. I keep seeing people say this place is out of order and genuinely don't see it?
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Thanks for being cool about it grey you always do a good job keeping this place in order I'll rework the op thanks for understanding. Most forums would have blown up about it. I keep seeing people say this place is out of order and genuinely don't see it?
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I'm not a moderator, so I don't clean the place.
I have grown up a lot on this forum, so I just try to pop some common sense in if I can. There is no reason to blow up about something simple on a forum.
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There is no reason to blow up about something simple on a forum.
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We learned that flipping out on forums was bad a while ago.
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We learned that flipping out on forums was bad a while ago.
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At least in public it gets you an annoying TV show