ok here is a heads up how bounty works .
you dont donate up front you put your name in with the amount and once it reaches the amount needed IF the DEV still wants in at that time well THEN and THEN only everyone pays .
I have seen and heard way too many devs get paid for nothing , while the best of them struggles to get new devices .
Its way to easy to have your friends/fans open bounty for you .
I am not pointing fingers at anyone (I am sorry if you feel the hats fits you ) and I will not entertain any arguments with anyone in this thread
and I vote to sticky this !
Sticky this anyone ?
ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the matter and have mastered it... as well it helps if the devs make a chip in so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the mtter nd have mastered it as well it helps if the devs make a chip me so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you ! and they all contributed may i add
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you !
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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what rules ?
XDA rules ? read them . posting here off topic is breaking one of them btw....
I do not make them nor do I choose which get shut down , if a thread got shut down it s because it wasnt legit according to XDA not according to me .
this thread 's goal right here is so users dont give money left and right . Many users got burned already and in the end the community suffers .
We can all get together and finance great dev for coming here , I ve freely given donations many times already and will do it again .
I do not have a facebook page , I do not ask for users to buy me devices I do not make chipin pages , I own only one device ( the other one is almost 2 yrs old) I do customize the phone for my need and share with the community , some users help me some users donate , some users join me .
Some devs hate me ? sad story .
but what is your point ? if it s OT again please dont bother ./
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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ok lol so now all the t989 guys gonna come here and post to cry , what is pathetic of me exactly ?
there is a ' dev only section' for him to post there is pm and there is chat link on my sig if anyone wants to talk .. Im an open book .
please read my previous answer and stop hijacking thx
I coudl post here all that was said for what ?
Hahaha you're pathetic bud. Glad you made that more obvious for us. I'm out
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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thx for the compliment but Im not remotely close to being the best dev here on the note .
I can't blame a dev if they wanna leave the T989... phone is great but the forum is drama.
Compare it to skyrocket. Same device almost, completely different attitude. Not daily flame wars from impatient end users
Edit: it would be great to have m&s on the i717 & tdj as well... And think how much more peaceful it would be for them here. Whitehawkx would be great Dan Brutal too. And they would be appreciated instead of maybe being sorry they bought the T989
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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hes already wokrign on something else for us .
Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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ok i am not up on thos highschool drama going on butt...edit this bro, cant understand a lick
I only pay for results.
What happened to the good old days when devs bought phones instead of begging for handouts? Its one thing for everyone to gather money for the cyanogen or miui team for a port but for another flavor of our existing roms? I'm more interested in donating to a dev that can build an ics kernel.
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I think the point is that we have had some developers working hard already. One of them brought us recovery without even having the phone, and he still doesn't have the phone. Nor has he been given enough in donations to buy this phone.
And now we have a number of developers showing up looking for donations to buy this phone to develop on. It seems to me to be insulting to start throwing money at individuals who haven't done anything yet vs those that have already worked hard.
Then again, everyone has the right to give money to who they want.
I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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If that's how the t989 users act, I'm glad I purchased the Note. You're doing great Dag and don't let these kids get you down!
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...I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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+1 to this comment.
I Got my Note launch day & soon found a community that in a brief time offered me root, an OC kernal, CWM, and now 3 different ROM's that I didn't ask for or up-front pay for. That established pretty clearly that people here are doing things for others (I would be the one of the others- I have contributed now to several).
I can understand that we bring our own baggage and attitude with us when we (anyone) read(s) these forums. Please, if it sounds like a post is disingenuous, discrediting, slighting, or unflattering to someone, seek clarification before you let your attitude, especially if it's negative, run amok. It isn't necessarily how you perceived it & such vitriolic spewing can be downright poisonous to the community.
You may have a point, and it may be good for all of us to hear it, but the golden rule can't hurt, eh? Civility is an option.
As far as the thread is concerned, I think some planning and caution when it comes to donations to bring others on board is wise, so discussion about that structure is a good thing- this is a ripe field for trolls and scammers. Thanks DAGr8 for trying to set this conversation rolling.
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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carycooke said:
As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
To All, Let's get clear what kind of bounty thread is acceptable and what is not :
A bounty thread that is posted for anyone to claim should they solve a problem or provide a fix is Acceptable.
A bounty thread like this which is to provide a person money or specific team money...etc IS NOT ACCEPTABLE........
THEREFORE...... THIS IS CLOSED AND DO NOT POST A BOUNTY LIKE THIS AGAIN......
THANK YOU ••• MODERATORS
I used the T989 (S2 for T-Mobile) before switching to the note and I must say that his guy is one of a kind and would be a great asset to the i717 dev community.
His T988 ROM (Darkside) is very popular as well as his kernel (Darkside Kernel). Used by 7+ different roms.
I managed to talk to him via PM about helping us out and would contribute if only he had the device.
I will be collecting the funds on his behalf and paying the rest needed for the device within a week or two tops so he can start developing
He's a great guy so please let's not piss him off with ETAs and unnecessary requests.
Lets set our goal at $750 for a new one from Bestbuy or $550 used from craigslist/ebay.
I'll start the bounty with $50 and will pay for the rest for a device after two weeks tops.
Donations List
djxcee - $50
Master&Slave™ - $10
DAGr8 - $5
djwascom33 - $5
?????????? - $50
Total Contributors: 5
Total Donated: $120
Thank you to all that donated
This is going to be interesting to see how many people respond.. This is bounty is legit. I honestly never do bounty threads because i seen a lot of them bust. @djxcee convinced me to help you guys out and I am willing to contribute whatever I can..
First off, no disrespect for you in this post, thederekjay, don't know your work, I'm sure you're great.
But OP, your thread title is disrespectful to the devs working on the Note today. Just because you have a favorite dev/rom on another phone/etc, doesn't mean you should post with that sort of slant. Devs are taking enough crap here lately for no reason.
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First off, no disrespect for you in this post, thederekjay, don't know your work, I'm sure you're great.
But OP, your thread title is disrespectful to the devs working on the Note today. Just because you have a favorite dev/rom on another phone/etc, doesn't mean you should post with that sort of slant. Devs are taking enough crap here lately for no reason.
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didn't mean to disrespect anyone but I changed the title to be a bit more board.
Hope its fine now.
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I HIGHLY recommend donating to this guy.
He has created some amazing roms/kernels/tools for the t989.
I know people in the t989 forum would get this phone just because he's deving for it.(which may not be a good thing based on how things turned out)
Good luck...I had a troll get the bounty someone set for me, deleted...
TDJ...Nice to see u still at it
Honestly goodluck where ever u go man.
I ordered a Galaxy Nexus a few hours ago.
M&S
Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
I have faith in this Dev . Plus his work is amazing
I donated 5.00 hope more people try to help make it happen
i can vouch for that dev .. His work is incredible i had a t-mobile galaxy s2...I used his roms over on SGH-T989 board....i will donate in a couple days for sure...this is great we do need more development here.
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Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
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It doesnt matter how the money is received IMO. As long as donations are for a good cause (Hence Getting TDJ here) then it shouldnt be a problem. People get burned everyday with money, people donate to even "greater real world causes" and get burned, its the way it is, not saying that thats how it should be.
I had no intentions on development for this phone until yesterday night when a few guys insisted that they wanted me to dev for it. They started a bounty the same as this one. I didnt have anything to do with what happened to you all with these other guys that came in and did nothing "per say", so it was not fair at all for my thread to get deleted, nor trolled. I thought the rules were "A dev couldnt ask for money to get his/her a device"
But anyways, im donating 10$ to TDJ Because he is loyal and he works very hard, i have much respect for the man. His Rom was very great, not to mention I even used his kernel and advertised his super wipe script in both of my ROM threads.
Last time im gonna be here...Good luck TDJ
Donation Confirmation
10$
As promised..
Confirmation number: 3UP51465HH082710J.
Phenomnal dev....one of many great devs from the MT4G forum. I currently run his Darkside kernel...excellent work !!
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Master&Slave™ said:
It doesnt matter how the money is received IMO. As long as donations are for a good cause (Hence Getting TDJ here) then it shouldnt be a problem. People get burned everyday with money, people donate to even "greater real world causes" and get burned, its the way it is, not saying that thats how it should be.
I had no intentions on development for this phone until yesterday night when a few guys insisted that they wanted me to dev for it. They started a bounty the same as this one. I didnt have anything to do with what happened to you all with these other guys that came in and did nothing "per say", so it was not fair at all for my thread to get deleted, nor trolled. I thought the rules were "A dev couldnt ask for money to get his/her a device"
But anyways, im donating 10$ to TDJ Because he is loyal and he works very hard, i have much respect for the man. His Rom was very great, not to mention I even used his kernel and advertised his super wipe script in both of my ROM threads.
Last time im gonna be here...Good luck TDJ
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Thanks... appreciate the kind words! Wish you the best of luck with the GN.
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Phenomnal dev....one of many great devs from the MT4G forum. I currently run his Darkside kernel...excellent work !!
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Do you currently have a note? I actually still have my mt4g, sitting around haven't touched it in awhile.
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Wait your saying you WILL buy him a device regardless of how $$ you receive ?
add myname to the list .
I will put in 5$
We def need new devs here .
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Pretty much . However if donations is low I will probably get a used one vs new one.
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Got a donation for $50 from someone. Please don't be shy and post here so I can add your name to the list
Thank you for contributing!
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Can't believe Braway made CWM work without a note and he only got 4 to donate? I hope people realize this...
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Got a donation for $50 from someone. Please don't be shy and post here so I can add your name to the list
Thank you for contributing!
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No need to add my name to the list. I just want this phone in more dev's hands. This is by far the best phone I have ever had and we need more dev's on this platform.
This phone is why I don't use my tablet anymore. Makes you think about why apple doesn't want a phone with a larger screen.
Put me in for $40
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Put me in for $40
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I.miss deejays from.the hercules forums.he was great. As was MASTERSLAVE.
Hope wE Get I Guy!!!!!
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Do you currently have a note? I actually still have my mt4g, sitting around haven't touched it in awhile.
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My question is of a serious nature.Even though Im not exactly new here I am new to the Rezound section.I noticed earlier that a thread I was reading was shut down.It was shutdown mid-read and i have a question about that.
It seems that one person whined about dmeadows asking for donations not for himself but for another awesome developer who has the ability to bring something everybody wants but nobody else has the ability to deliver including the gentleman who got the thread shut down.
Maybe a Mod can help me understand the rules.As long as xda has existed these sorts of "Help a Dev help us" threads have existed and were perfectly ok.See Here:
http://www.google.com/cse?q=bounty+...59-1#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bounty thread&gsc.page=1
But one thread gets closed down because someone who is a well known donation hound complains because they arent getting the attention and/or donations.If you are going to apply your gestapo tactic rules to one apply them to all,not just when your buddy complains to you about it in a pm.Im genuinely confused about this.I read and reread the rules and dont understand where it says this is acceptable behavior.
that whole situation reminds me and hopefully reminds the one who's allowed themselves to be intimidated to "practice before you preach"
I'm not really sure whats going on around here recently... people are acting all sorts of edgy in Rezound land. All I can say is - WOW. I'm starting to think humanity is devolving quickly.
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or is the correct word de-evolving??
As I said in another thread:
The donations for Protekk were merely made to purchase him a Rezound, with this Rezound he could work on the RIL. NOT AOSP/AOKP Roms. What he does after is his choice.
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I believe I may have made a mistake myself and posted in the wrong section.Please feel free to move this or even delete it after I get an answer.
I completely agree. all were willing to contribute to a cause. can't get progress going without the device.also just because there's unfinished projects doesn't mean someone deserves to be put on the spot like that.
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I completely agree. all were willing to contribute to a cause. can't get progress going without the device.also just because there's unfinished projects doesn't mean someone deserves to be put on the spot like that.
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Agree wholeheartedly.
the overall point is to be a team and help each other not go after someone which is clearly a rule they broke themselves. breaking one rule to publicly point out another rule which is still questionable broken or not is not why we're here. this behavior needs to stop and we need to be a team if we are going to make goals happen
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the overall point is to be a team and help each other not go after someone which is clearly a rule they broke themselves. breaking one rule to publicly point out another rule which is still questionable broken or not is not why we're here. this behavior needs to stop and we need to be a team if we are going to make goals happen
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You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA and there wasn't any issue with it till someone got jealous.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA and there wasn't any issue with it till someone got jealous.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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I'm sure if the bounty was for Cyanogen, this would be a different scenario.
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bob24260 said:
You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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It does. It was a move that is similar to Apple trying to stomp out competition by patent trolling. And believe me, that particular developer has just lost a lot of respect from the community. I for one have no problems saying publicly that I don't condone that behavior, nor will I support developers who engage in that kind of activity.
I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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ok well this could have been it. but there are other ways to go around this. one is if you just click the report button and tell the mod that he received the phone and that it should be closed.
what they did was go in and flame the $h|T out of Dmeadows, when all they had to do was suggest to him that he needs to contact the mods to close it.
this is why i wont post stuff on xda anymore. it seems like there are more people out to flame then just help. most of the people just jumped on the ban wagon when a dev was involved. all the dev had to do was pm meadows and that would have been it. but he just wanted to post so everyone can see how much of a BA he was. that is not needed at all.
Wow. I just saw the thread with the people involved. Shocked at who it was and what they said.
A simple PM wouldve helped. When you come out your face like that you lose really quick.
Ijs, d helped us get joelz here and joelz work has helped the complainer and others out and im sure prot would done the same . Its messed up really, and i can see what people mean with how the community is going down, especially when the devs are part of it too, smh. Lol crazy.
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ok well this could have been it. but there are other ways to go around this. one is if you just click the report button and tell the mod that he received the phone and that it should be closed.
what they did was go in and flame the $h|T out of Dmeadows, when all they had to do was suggest to him that he needs to contact the mods to close it.
this is why i wont post stuff on xda anymore. it seems like there are more people out to flame then just help. most of the people just jumped on the ban wagon when a dev was involved. all the dev had to do was pm meadows and that would have been it. but he just wanted to post so everyone can see how much of a BA he was. that is not needed at all.
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i really dont know what to do on here but i guess i jumped on the bandwagon and i apologize for that im not to familiar with the rules.i think that scott has lost a lot of respect from the rezound community
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I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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I understand what you're saying there and I partially agree but the part I am most agitated about and have a hard time understanding is the fact that one person is being told they are breaking the rules by asking for something that doesn't yet exist,but that same thing he is getting ripped on for has occurred over and over since Androids beginnings on XDA but it was never made an issue of before and allowed to happen by mods and administration alike.But when one person who out of pure jealousy makes an issue out of it,the rule is then enforced.
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SO glad that people see that a simple PM would have been a better choice. You guys give me hope that XDA can be fixed.
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Flaming doesnt get us anywhere. Plus D was trying to do a good thing for the community. HE got the ball rolling on getting the correct people involved and bringing more options and development to our phones.
I dont want to add anymore and i know im breaking a rule by attacking one individual. This should note be considered a flame, but as an inspiration to RELAX. We are all trying to achieve one goal.
who complained? was it markus?
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SO glad that people see that a simple PM would have been a better choice. You guys give me hope that XDA can be fixed.
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I dont' think XDA is the real problem... its just a few bad attitudes in here. XDA has the largest user base, meaning there's a larger pool of potential trouble-makers. It does surely get annoying from time to time, but if everybody on XDA simply moved to another forum, the same drama would likely just follow the users...
I'm not really sure there is a solution, except for ignoring the trouble makers..
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Nah, just check the get protekk a rezound thread and you'll see.
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
All the broken roms has " WIP" which means work in progress, and ignorant ppl like you should not even look at it!! So stay away from all this!
Oh and these devs are not working their ass of to please you..nobody cares if you like this pattern or not, its a development forum!
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Not true. The first word in developer is develop, which means to make progress. As you've seen in the last week, that's exactly what they've been doing. Don't lash out at the developers when you don't even have your own rom for the amaze. I've been lurking here for the past few months and i've been very happy with the strides made with this device.
As the old saying goes, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Go away with your whining or I shall taunt you a second time.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This will not end well for you, way to show support for those working on their own time to get this stuff out for us...prick
please do not make threads like this if its not helping the community please remove this silly thread and to everyone else dont dignify what he said with a response thank you
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
Just wanna say I have been gitty over the strides made recently. If sports gets CM anything working with 4G. He is getting some money from me and I am sure a lot of us
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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Yessiirrr support WIP to death lol :thumbup:
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This forum is not for users its for developers you don't even belong here we don't make Roms for you there for ourselves. We have no obligation to do anything for anyone
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Agreed I'm not exactly a dev but I try to help users as much as my knowledge allows and for wip roms are just a sign saying more to come soon
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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All the roms will be working tomorrow, just for you buddy.....
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tofuwrice said:
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
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+1 for this. I've been using this Site for 4+ years, and I rarely post because I READ EVERYTHING. I know a lot of these roms are wip and I know that before I download them. The OP needs to pull his head out of his ass and show some respect to the developers that make our phones seem new everyday.
Lock this immidiatly!!! This guy isnt worthy of xda
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I like this forum for he reason I can learn and people will help me do that. I may not post what I have developed but if I wanted to I would hope to get better respect than what you are giving. Grow up and leave, this helps no one.
WRONG SECTION, MORON
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nat4u 28th June 2012, 02:41 PM #1
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Thanks Meter 10
Posts: 50
Join Date: Jan 2010
Jellybean 4 the Amaze
We have a system dump for Jellybean so how long until devs port it to our phone and if its even possible. I have seen AWESOME work from the devs on this forum, and all I can say "BRAVO" you guys are brilliant.
Nat
to post this ****.
Can I get an ETA for when you will shut the hell up?
You have got to be f*cking kidding me. If you dont like what we do, then get out of here. Be thankful you even have root. We use a lot of our own time in our lives to release something because we want to. If you don't like it, then nobody gives 2 sh*ts. We can just lock every thread and remove every link and you will have nothing to use? Do you really want that? If so, then do not even come here anymore. People like you disrespect devs and the community alike. Don't like what we do? Then do it yourself. Oh wait, you don't know how. Then f*ck off. It's your problem. Not ours.
Roms aren't broken, its you dude.
This thread should be archived in the "examples of trolling" thread.
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Hopefully locked in a few minutes.
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This is 100% incorrect. XDA-Developers means we develop things. ROMs/app are an ongoing work in progress. Devs don't make ROMs just for users to come here and expect to be able to "pimp" their phones.
Oh, and the Development forum is not for posting complaints in. it's for Development work, that thing you don't seem to like.
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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dnle71 said:
I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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DJoptimus-One said:
They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Yes, but there ain't any one single N00B fish in the O1 pond. There are many
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Completely aggree.
The main problem (just my point of view) is that those "noobs" ignore any compents (if I think on hephappy's thread) and think they know everything.
And because they don't work on there own project, they don't know how much work (all in the free time of the devs) has to be done.
Don't worry
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
Rom manager -> Download rom -> hephappy -> Select rom
No more xda = no more noobs...
Rom manager note:
ROM hosting is free. ROMs hosted via ROM Manager Developer Portal will be listed
in the free section 5 days of the week. The other 2 days of the week, it will be
listed in the premium section. The days may vary from developer to developer
so not all developers are in the premium section at the same time.
Woohoo okkayyy
hephappy said:
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
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Thanks Hep...
I do not have ROM Manager on my phone till now, but will use it - only to be connected to your ROM updates !
don't know about others but I appreciate your hard work and will continue to do so no matter what
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Well you are complety right im a xda user for almost 2 years and this setion was fun thanks to devs. and users but in the last 2 months appears so many new people ho now everything altouhg im not a dev and only start about 2 days learning how to modify well you guys have all credit from yesterday i build JB just for learning propuses and that gave me an ideai of what you guys do for free but noobs keep sayng others phones why ours dont lol just lol what i think is more worst is that they dont read first before postimg stupid stuff android its not made only for p500 and android versions evolve like the new phones evolve if we want new stuff we need other phone we cant push more for this awseome device that was my first android device and thanks to this comunity open source now i have 3 diferent devices of course we cant buy what we want whenever we want but noobs have to learn how to trust devs. if they say this is impossible to rum thats because its RESPECT TO M.A.C. TEAM AND ALL OTHERS THAT ONLY GEEKS THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING I LEARN AND AM LEARNING ABOUT ANDROID IN A GENERAL WAY.
.spcealy arjen ho already give me tipes and with them i put CM9 working in my tablet thanks a lot.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
myawan said:
I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
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+1
Everybody is a "noob" at one time.Lot of people think they are the boss and call others noobs, but that pretty much wont last long.I ain't a developer but love all the developing works in here.Its really obvious from the thank meters of great devs, how much respected they are in this community.
Not anybody is born really intelligent and talented.
Everybody learn something from others and improve it.That is how the system works.
Everybody has their own field which they are perfect at.In that field, the "bosses" in here could be noobs.
I think everybody should learn to respect others to gain respect.
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Lots of ego stuff, from both sides
Me too,going to get sgs2.
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100% Noob for Reason and Courtesy
I have been a professional developer but for internals and ROMs, I am 100% "Noob." Most of what I see on this little thread is much less than helpful. Enough already.
Anyone who read my posts would see that my tone does not fit the stereotype be harangued here. I do not use the F word, the S word, make ridiculous claims and demands of more experienced (fantastic!) "Devs." Any suggestions I make are with respect and humility. Maybe the ideas will pan out, maybe not.
If I do not have CM10 on this old phone, I am delighted with ICS. (Indeed, Google Now will soon enough work here without JB, a matter of time and ingenuity.) I do hope JB (or as I have termed in more realistically "Jelly-Sandwich") will work on the phone, but there are other things in life. I did not enter XDA for all the negativity and tension. Friendship and respect are more important the ROMs and tweaks.
I dont read p500 so munch like old time, im have buy new device and i busy with that, but this problem has rolling day by day, even before arjen and adam start developing here, it has make alot of casualties like andy, doctornotor, etc..
What you expect from from developer?
Their ideas, their works, their time, so i think they must have bigger egos than me, im just a Leacher... Just download and give feedbacks if you like their works, or leave it like that if you hate he/his works. No need flaming, another person have their glasses and viewpoint.
Xda is made for us. we here for our needs, even every devices will death development, we just try make as long as we can, and flaming is not the way to make our beloved p500 ageless like htc hero...
Thx for all developers That i known for 1.5years till now day in this section... GBU.
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Arjen, I shall call franco here
He was the most obsessed by noob questions
You believe that a kernel dev recieved PMs regarding how to flash kernels. Lol
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Arjen, can I request you to close this thread? I could understand your good intentions behind starting this thread but this is going totally in a different direction. I hope all of you agree with me that tit for tat attitude is not good for anybody. Its high time that we stop all this and come to normal mode, cooperate and make this community a great place to do better things.