Ok guys I am starting this thread due to being told in other threads that I'm not permitted to have opinions and having them removed , or having good questions that are taken as flaming , but don't seem to get answered .
All that I ask is please if you do rant don't name anyone in particular , do not name teams . We do not need mods swooping in and deleting anyone's issues . Thank you .
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I presonally dont think the One XxX rom needed to be locked down.
I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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cbrown245 said:
I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Very good point .
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Who is putting down other roms ? All that was said was if the Rom has had no development in months and the thread is being cluttered with irrelevant posts and NO DEVELOPEMENT is being made then that thread alone should be closed until developement is made.
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One XXX was locked down because of CoreDroid tweaks, there is a rom that hasnt been updated in 4 months that has about the same thing, a team has decided that One XXX has to be locked because it contains CoreDroid tweaks, the rom that hasnt been updated for 4 months is supported by the same team.
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
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So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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Also please no names and no teams ,,, I don't want anyone getting upset .
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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I think it would just be good if all devs would get along and not bicker over if some code got taken, now when i say this i dont mean its alright to take all the aspects of a rom and make basically the same exact thing, but if its a few bits of code that are the same or similar why take the whole thing down? If all devs were like that we would have quite a few problems, and nothing would be done. I also understand that giving credits would be nice too if any code was taken or used in a rom. Also if they want some code taken out why not PM the dev and ask for it to be taken out instead of having the whole thing locked down? This is just my opinion as well, so if you dont agree with it, I dont care.
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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This is a general discussion and RANT thread , everyone here is entitled to their own opinions here , we will not flame here , but yes I believe this thread was needed . As I posted in the op I'm tired of seeing my questions and my posts being deleted due to my opinion not being like . I have read the xda rules and my posts did not violate the rules but were deleted anyways thus me creating a thread where everyone's opinions could be heard . Thank you .
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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Its always good to have a vent.
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Its always good to have a vent.
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True, but really all of this should have been kept between the mods and devs. The users whining about it didn't help anything and only worsens the situation. Like we all don't know who you are talking about.
That had been the biggest problem with the rezound, devs doing their fighting and whatnot publicly. Devs like Chad and nils don't do that and if you look in their thread there isn't any of this garbage. They do their work and release it as they see fit, when they see fit.
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So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
Yes , but also realize that everyone can come to this thread and discuss or rant about anything from roms to that cop that wrote you a ticket , it doesn't matter that's why its in general discussion . I want a thread where all opinions are equal and someone should not be affraid of the mods coming down on them for their opinions .
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*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Actually I let the common adult figure out who I'm talking about , I'm not naming anyone it is you using common sense to see it . And once again one dev says not to use his stuff and it gets used - nothing happens , that same dev who broke the rule gets his stuff used and all hell breaks loose ,,,, why the double standard ? The rules go both ways . Does it not ?
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Thread Is closed as offtopic as it has nothing to do with the device itself.
Rather you are discussing moderating decisions and actions without knowing the background.
Leave this between devs and mods, its not your job to judge.
Consider this a warning and don't start another rant thread or create any more issues.
Thank you
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Specifically a question for developers:
So I'm just curious when do you guys think an ICS custom ROM might be available for our vibrants?
More specifically, has google released enough of the SDK and/or ICS code for someone to actually make a working ICS ROM?
Can't wait to see it in action!
Thanks
Edit: my question really is:
what requirements do developers need to start working on a custom ROM when a new OS is released?
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source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.
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source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.
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Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
3-4 Months until you have something usable. That is provided the Vibrant still has developers left to work on it. A lot of ppl switched.
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I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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Sure you do.
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beren28 said:
I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.
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[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.
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Lol....they can flame away... just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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djordan79 said:
just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.
djquick said:
Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.
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Yeah... I got that already.... Thanks for repeating what someone else has already said.
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I'm here to help
djordan79 said:
Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.
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First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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geoffcorey said:
First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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Ok.... Glad you could impart some useful information... Oh wait... Nevermind
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ali1276 said:
Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.
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Glad to hear an good to see your still around
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If they actually do get an actual ICS rom going on the Vibrant \ i'll install it, regardless of GPS or no, i never use it anywho
Can I cut him? Please?
http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/
here's a Vibrant ICS custom ROM i saw on internet
ok here is a heads up how bounty works .
you dont donate up front you put your name in with the amount and once it reaches the amount needed IF the DEV still wants in at that time well THEN and THEN only everyone pays .
I have seen and heard way too many devs get paid for nothing , while the best of them struggles to get new devices .
Its way to easy to have your friends/fans open bounty for you .
I am not pointing fingers at anyone (I am sorry if you feel the hats fits you ) and I will not entertain any arguments with anyone in this thread
and I vote to sticky this !
Sticky this anyone ?
ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the matter and have mastered it... as well it helps if the devs make a chip in so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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ok guys i successfully have gotten a few devs devices on the skyrocket thread feel free to look at the threads i started by looking at my thread posts.... Ive created Johnsondr80 one a few months back and he was one of the first i got a device for and he helps the skyrocket community alot.... I propose you guys consolidate donations into one thread just look at what i have done its called a [DONATION ROTATION] thread if u have questions ask as i read rules on the mtter nd have mastered it as well it helps if the devs make a chip me so everyone knows the donations go straight to them
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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The goal is to avoid money going left and right if you recall I was interested in your thread but I stepped back when you asked me to make a chipin page because money gets spread thin .
I believe the only proper way is the same way the t-mobile bounty was made .
Gather up ppl ready to give money then , point it all at ONE dev with a poll if needed . otherwise money goes left and right and you never know who really buys the device .
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you ! and they all contributed may i add
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understand what you are saying... but i did successfully get 3 devs devices though and i did want you on the skyrocket thread coulda been number 4 as Canadians love you !
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Oh and building roms blind don't yield the best result not that yours are bbetter with device.
Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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jeet92 said:
Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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what rules ?
XDA rules ? read them . posting here off topic is breaking one of them btw....
I do not make them nor do I choose which get shut down , if a thread got shut down it s because it wasnt legit according to XDA not according to me .
this thread 's goal right here is so users dont give money left and right . Many users got burned already and in the end the community suffers .
We can all get together and finance great dev for coming here , I ve freely given donations many times already and will do it again .
I do not have a facebook page , I do not ask for users to buy me devices I do not make chipin pages , I own only one device ( the other one is almost 2 yrs old) I do customize the phone for my need and share with the community , some users help me some users donate , some users join me .
Some devs hate me ? sad story .
but what is your point ? if it s OT again please dont bother ./
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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ok lol so now all the t989 guys gonna come here and post to cry , what is pathetic of me exactly ?
there is a ' dev only section' for him to post there is pm and there is chat link on my sig if anyone wants to talk .. Im an open book .
please read my previous answer and stop hijacking thx
I coudl post here all that was said for what ?
Hahaha you're pathetic bud. Glad you made that more obvious for us. I'm out
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Where do these "rules" come from? Didn't know you were a mod. Saw you close down a great devs bounty page. Good to know you got scared by competition
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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Holy hell a Dev worth while was getting donated to, its a good thing you were here to let us all know how prissy "some" people are. Pretty pathetic there Dag.
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Good job on trying to protect your image as thebest dev on the note. Didn't know fear could make people stoop so low. I feel sorry for you. And now I leave you to yourself.
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thx for the compliment but Im not remotely close to being the best dev here on the note .
I can't blame a dev if they wanna leave the T989... phone is great but the forum is drama.
Compare it to skyrocket. Same device almost, completely different attitude. Not daily flame wars from impatient end users
Edit: it would be great to have m&s on the i717 & tdj as well... And think how much more peaceful it would be for them here. Whitehawkx would be great Dan Brutal too. And they would be appreciated instead of maybe being sorry they bought the T989
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Yes your way is good , but again one dev at a time is the way to go then if for example it takes too long for a dev and he buys another phone . there is always another one ready .
for example we have braway working BLIND ( cough cough) on our phone waitign for ppl to help him get one since day one , not asking for asingle donation , he s also the source of all the roms here since he made CWM .
but we see money going separate ways for flavored roms .
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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i agree braway needs one i would definitely donate if he committed to a touch recovery
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hes already wokrign on something else for us .
Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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Im going to go against the horde here and say this. Until you start pumping it useful stuff to our phones how about people not piss off the people who are actually making this device move forward. You want another dev to have this phone go ahead. But don't knock those who are giving what they have done... I bet every tool here that just went against him is using a part of a script compiled by him.... Point your finger in the unclear.... Point your finger in the mirror...
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ok i am not up on thos highschool drama going on butt...edit this bro, cant understand a lick
I only pay for results.
What happened to the good old days when devs bought phones instead of begging for handouts? Its one thing for everyone to gather money for the cyanogen or miui team for a port but for another flavor of our existing roms? I'm more interested in donating to a dev that can build an ics kernel.
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I think the point is that we have had some developers working hard already. One of them brought us recovery without even having the phone, and he still doesn't have the phone. Nor has he been given enough in donations to buy this phone.
And now we have a number of developers showing up looking for donations to buy this phone to develop on. It seems to me to be insulting to start throwing money at individuals who haven't done anything yet vs those that have already worked hard.
Then again, everyone has the right to give money to who they want.
I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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If that's how the t989 users act, I'm glad I purchased the Note. You're doing great Dag and don't let these kids get you down!
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...I really don't understand why people posting on a forum have to get downright rude because they don't agree with someone.
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+1 to this comment.
I Got my Note launch day & soon found a community that in a brief time offered me root, an OC kernal, CWM, and now 3 different ROM's that I didn't ask for or up-front pay for. That established pretty clearly that people here are doing things for others (I would be the one of the others- I have contributed now to several).
I can understand that we bring our own baggage and attitude with us when we (anyone) read(s) these forums. Please, if it sounds like a post is disingenuous, discrediting, slighting, or unflattering to someone, seek clarification before you let your attitude, especially if it's negative, run amok. It isn't necessarily how you perceived it & such vitriolic spewing can be downright poisonous to the community.
You may have a point, and it may be good for all of us to hear it, but the golden rule can't hurt, eh? Civility is an option.
As far as the thread is concerned, I think some planning and caution when it comes to donations to bring others on board is wise, so discussion about that structure is a good thing- this is a ripe field for trolls and scammers. Thanks DAGr8 for trying to set this conversation rolling.
I would like to make a request to the community.
We, as a community really need to shape-up. This place is absolutely crazy. There are harmless threads that turn into spam and people complaining about aosp. The fact is we need to stop this. All of you know you hate this too but stooping down to the level of these trolls only makes things worse.
What we really need is for the mod team to really come down hard on this place. Not just the trolls but everyone. Everyone has a role in this.
People need to be infracted or banned or whatever and these threads need to be sent to the damn trash.
This isn't just a job for the mods either. Users need to stop feeding the fire that trolls start.
We need to take the initiative to shape up before this community goes down as the one that scared everyone off and died. Seriously think about it...
I've been wondering why people aren't banned.
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I've been wondering why people aren't banned.
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Seriously people need to get banned at least temporarily.
It's pretty simple, really. Ignore them, report them, they will go away.
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It's pretty simple, really. Ignore them, report them, they will go away.
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I know I do but there's still people that argue bck with them and it grows exponentially before the thread is closed or deleted
I must be in the wrong threads.
I use Nilsp's ROM exclusively, so I don't get into many other threads. His thread is relatively clean, with very few people asking questions answered in the first page...and absolutely no sniping at all.
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I must be in the wrong threads.
I use Nilsp's ROM exclusively, so I don't get into many other threads. His thread is relatively clean, with very few people asking questions answered in the first page...and absolutely no sniping at all.
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Lucky you. You absolutely dodged everything that happened
It's because Nils is a super classy guy with super classy users.
...says the guy with the Cornholio avatar.
BBEgo said:
It's because Nils is a super classy guy with super classy users.
...says the guy with the Cornholio avatar.
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One of these days when I'm not texting the ladies or playing with an aokp build I'm gonna try out his rom
Mikion and Chef Holmes have both been temporarily disabled I think. They both flamed the hell out of all Joelz's threads.
I don't get what the dispute is between XDA and The MikMik. They're both resources for Android development so it makes no sense? If it were Android vs iOS, maybe I'd understand more but this is lunacy.
Developers such as Newt and Scott both frequent both sites and share their work on both so what's the big deal?
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Mikion and Chef Holmes have both been temporarily disabled I think. They both flamed the hell out of all Joelz's threads.
I don't get what the dispute is between XDA and The MikMik. They're both resources for Android development so it makes no sense? If it were Android vs iOS, maybe I'd understand more but this is lunacy.
Developers such as Newt and Scott both frequent both sites and share their work on both so what's the big deal?
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Chefthomas not chef holmes...IDK what happened, he used to be a really cool guy....
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Chefthomas not chef holmes...IDK what happened, he used to be a really cool guy....
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Haha you got it dude, I knew it was something like that
But yeah, me too. I was quite surprised when I saw it to be honest. I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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Haha you got it dude, I knew it was something like that
But yeah, me too. I was quite surprised when I saw it to be honest. I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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neither do it all i know is that it needs to stop.
It's the internet no matter what you do morons will ruin everything... Ignore them and move on.
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neither do it all i know is that it needs to stop.
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I am guessing it is probably due to the fact that if you mention stuff from devs here over there no one gets mad, but so help you god if you mention a dev that went to themikmik over here, as you are probably about to start a flame war...
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I don't think the mod team even exists anymore in this section.
I haven't seen YZ in forever. Numerous people have wanted their threads closed, but they stay open, and all the flame threads still exist.
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I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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Me either but it supports my reasons not to run any of their roms if they support a community like that
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I don't think the mod team even exists anymore in this section.
I haven't seen YZ in forever. Numerous people have wanted their threads closed, but they stay open, and all the flame threads still exist.
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The mods are still around. I posted a farewell thread the other day and decided to change the title of the OP and tell everyone about it (sorry about that by the ways guys).
Now that thread has been completely removed, so they're definitely still active...
The ironic part about it, is that I'm still on the Rezound forums even though I bought a Nexus (I still own my Rezound though so I guess I'm allowed - no more trolling, I swear).
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Me either but it supports my reasons not to run any of their roms if they support a community like that
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You should actually go spend a week there and say this again. I can very well say the same thing about xda.
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You should actually go spend a week there and say this again. I can very well say the same thing about xda.
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Yep, and every time someone tries to bring up the xda drama the mods/admins tell everyone to stop. They are definitely taking the high road for the most part.
My opinion, we need to just stop already. These threads are just giving validity to our reputation. We all just need to relax, be respectful to each other, and show some appreciation for the work that the devs do for us for free.
As for the dev on dev public fighting - this just needs to not be tolerated. Period. Either take it to PM, or just shrug your shoulders and say "meh" and keep on keeping on. The only thing the public fighting does is get the rest of the community fired up and then the bashing amongst the devs fans starts. I think the public dev fighting is what really tarnishes this community. Their are always *****y, ungrateful, douchebags within the normal every day users. Everyone just needs to ignore them and let the mod team handle it.
My .02 cents of course.
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
All the broken roms has " WIP" which means work in progress, and ignorant ppl like you should not even look at it!! So stay away from all this!
Oh and these devs are not working their ass of to please you..nobody cares if you like this pattern or not, its a development forum!
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Not true. The first word in developer is develop, which means to make progress. As you've seen in the last week, that's exactly what they've been doing. Don't lash out at the developers when you don't even have your own rom for the amaze. I've been lurking here for the past few months and i've been very happy with the strides made with this device.
As the old saying goes, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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Go away with your whining or I shall taunt you a second time.
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This will not end well for you, way to show support for those working on their own time to get this stuff out for us...prick
please do not make threads like this if its not helping the community please remove this silly thread and to everyone else dont dignify what he said with a response thank you
Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
Just wanna say I have been gitty over the strides made recently. If sports gets CM anything working with 4G. He is getting some money from me and I am sure a lot of us
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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well we (all the devs and future devs) could just remove our download links and leave you "rom-less". be glad that we make anything at all. Remember we do this for free and yes, even though these are WIP's, that doesnt mean they arent going to be fixed eventually. they are meant to be milestones to show users that there is still activity for this phone.
thankyou to those who support the WIP's
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Yessiirrr support WIP to death lol :thumbup:
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This forum is not for users its for developers you don't even belong here we don't make Roms for you there for ourselves. We have no obligation to do anything for anyone
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Agreed I'm not exactly a dev but I try to help users as much as my knowledge allows and for wip roms are just a sign saying more to come soon
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I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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All the roms will be working tomorrow, just for you buddy.....
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Can we voteban him? I've been lurking for a while and I just signed in to bash him lol.
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+1 for this. I've been using this Site for 4+ years, and I rarely post because I READ EVERYTHING. I know a lot of these roms are wip and I know that before I download them. The OP needs to pull his head out of his ass and show some respect to the developers that make our phones seem new everyday.
Lock this immidiatly!!! This guy isnt worthy of xda
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I like this forum for he reason I can learn and people will help me do that. I may not post what I have developed but if I wanted to I would hope to get better respect than what you are giving. Grow up and leave, this helps no one.
WRONG SECTION, MORON
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nat4u 28th June 2012, 02:41 PM #1
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Jellybean 4 the Amaze
We have a system dump for Jellybean so how long until devs port it to our phone and if its even possible. I have seen AWESOME work from the devs on this forum, and all I can say "BRAVO" you guys are brilliant.
Nat
to post this ****.
Can I get an ETA for when you will shut the hell up?
You have got to be f*cking kidding me. If you dont like what we do, then get out of here. Be thankful you even have root. We use a lot of our own time in our lives to release something because we want to. If you don't like it, then nobody gives 2 sh*ts. We can just lock every thread and remove every link and you will have nothing to use? Do you really want that? If so, then do not even come here anymore. People like you disrespect devs and the community alike. Don't like what we do? Then do it yourself. Oh wait, you don't know how. Then f*ck off. It's your problem. Not ours.
Roms aren't broken, its you dude.
This thread should be archived in the "examples of trolling" thread.
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Hopefully locked in a few minutes.
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nat4u said:
I am seeing a pattern that I dont like, devs putting out broken roms . A rom must work flawlessly out of the box, not screw up a device.
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This is 100% incorrect. XDA-Developers means we develop things. ROMs/app are an ongoing work in progress. Devs don't make ROMs just for users to come here and expect to be able to "pimp" their phones.
Oh, and the Development forum is not for posting complaints in. it's for Development work, that thing you don't seem to like.
I just noticed that another dev has left over a bunch of bull. I don't understand this forum for this device. I have had this phone for just under a month and seems like devs drop it right and left. I may get dropped from this site for speaking my opinion, but I find this place gets more childish as time goes on. I think it is great we have moderation, but there's a point when it goes over board. I'm seeing more and more devs not even posting there work here. Shame a great site is going down so quikly.
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Not sure of what happened exactly, but on any forum, the mods are the ones responsible for keeping everyone in check. With that being said, I think that we have too few mods here, because it looks like things got out of hand way before the mods closed the thread or really did anything.
More mods means that someone might have been able to calm everyone down, or at least punish the offending party satisfactorily. There should never be a thread closed for something as great as the Devs make here because of some jackoff who ruins it for everyone.
I know that the mods can't be everywhere all the time....but maybe a few more wouldn't hurt.
Just something to think about.
Edit: fee to few*
What dev moved on ?
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What dev moved on ?
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Jamie
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thicklizard said:
Jamie
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Ya, thanks . Just read the thread. This fcuking blows. Hope he has a change of heart. Great work and a positive attitude.
Really disappointed
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Jamie
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What was he involved in
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Not really involved in any thing just fed up with the politics of things. I see and agree where he is coming from! While I hope he changes his mind and continues to put out his work for the jewel, I completely support him!
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Seemed like a good dude - hope he comes back.
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Not really involved in any thing just fed up with the politics of things. I see and agree where he is coming from! While I hope he changes his mind and continues to put out his work for the jewel, I completely support him!
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+1. I feel worse, because I was flashing stuff and I didn't get the updated PAC before it disappeared. I hope the next phone I get is something he'll be working on. Also blows because I was looking forward to the FirefoxOS that he had in the works.
I know he's not the only good dev, but he -was- a good one.
Listen he left to go dev for the note 2 which is the device he just picked up.
Everyone needs to stop with the drama.
By that I mean each dev is free to do as they please and go where they want. This garbage last night was just that and it will be dropped as of this post
Mazda's threads are set up correctly and credited correctly. He is GPL compliant and there are no issues
Jamie's comments last night...while having a little merit should have been dealt with in private and not brought into a public forum.
Unless you have the whole story between these two devs (which 99.999% of u do not) then I'd recommend minding ur business and not starting more issues or taking sides as its not ur place nor do u have any idea what your talking about.
Feel free to contact me via pm if u wish to ask me questions...if I don't answer then that means its none of ur business.
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