ICS custom ROMs timeline? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Specifically a question for developers:
So I'm just curious when do you guys think an ICS custom ROM might be available for our vibrants?
More specifically, has google released enough of the SDK and/or ICS code for someone to actually make a working ICS ROM?
Can't wait to see it in action!
Thanks
Edit: my question really is:
what requirements do developers need to start working on a custom ROM when a new OS is released?
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source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.

bearsfan85 said:
source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.
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Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.

3-4 Months until you have something usable. That is provided the Vibrant still has developers left to work on it. A lot of ppl switched.

beren28 said:
I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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Sure you do.
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beren28 said:
I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.

Silentbtdeadly said:
[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.
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Lol....they can flame away... just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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djordan79 said:
just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.

djquick said:
Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.
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Yeah... I got that already.... Thanks for repeating what someone else has already said.
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I'm here to help

djordan79 said:
Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.

geoffcorey said:
First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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djordan79 said:
Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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geoffcorey said:
First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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Ok.... Glad you could impart some useful information... Oh wait... Nevermind
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ali1276 said:
Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.
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Glad to hear an good to see your still around
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If they actually do get an actual ICS rom going on the Vibrant \ i'll install it, regardless of GPS or no, i never use it anywho

Can I cut him? Please?

http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/
here's a Vibrant ICS custom ROM i saw on internet

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[Q] Gingerbread

I want to find out how do I get Gingerbread on my phone. Need step by step on how to do this. Thanks.
You can't yet. Keep an eye on the development forums from time to time. Who knows how soon well have it.
thegreatcity said:
You can't yet. Keep an eye on the development forums from time to time. Who knows how soon well have it.
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Bless your patience. More people in the forum should be like you... And less like the OP, lol.
i am bit new to android phones. wanted to ask if the vibrant hardware is up to run gingerbread? can it run ice-cream or the next android OS? can someone explain?
why do you want a food coming from your phone??
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I am 12 and what is this?
degeneration said:
I am 12 and what is this?
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Wtf???
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dorbanz3 said:
i am bit new to android phones. wanted to ask if the vibrant hardware is up to run gingerbread? can it run ice-cream or the next android OS? can someone explain?
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If they change the architectural software structure of Ice-cream(2.4 or 3.1?) then no it would not upgrade, But I would bet a dollar the phone will be able to handle at least 2 or 3 more upgrades before software and apps will require a larger ram and duo core cpu
BTW way to the other posting....... froyo, gingerbread etc are the code names they gave each version of android....... 2.2, 2.3 etc
i have this rom gingerbread 2.3 from another forum but im a noob how do i flash
bartek25 said:
i have this rom gingerbread 2.3 from another forum but im a noob how do i flash
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What do you mean, from another forum? Is it made for the Vibrant?
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mrwiz said:
I want to find out how do I get Gingerbread on my phone. Need step by step on how to do this. Thanks.
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Get some gingerbread in your hand then smother it all over the phone.
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Not true because someone I know got it on their phone and told me to come to this site to do it. Thats where got it from. Might have to ask this person on exact instructions how he did it.
hmmmmmmmm....dooooooooonuts
mrwiz said:
Not true because someone I know got it on their phone and told me to come to this site to do it. Thats where got it from. Might have to ask this person on exact instructions how he did it.
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Well either you or he was confused. There's more than a couple Gingerbread themes out there, but thats all they are is themes. There is one EXPERIMENTAL Gingerbread build out, but as such, its not stable and could not be used daily.
Its being worked on, but Samsung has not even released the 2.2 source yet. When that happens, maybe some doors will be opened in that direction.
But as of right now there is NO stable Gingerbread rom, no matter what your friend told you. If there was you would have gotten actual help, instead of some of the less serious responses.
bartek25 said:
hmmmmmmmm....dooooooooonuts
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all of these posts are HILARIOUS! thank you all! this thread made my night =)
Type "format c:"
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Wow, some people!
You ask the question > people answer the question > then you question their answer like they don’t know what they are talking about!
I got an idea >>> Do some research!!
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thegreatcity said:
Well either you or he was confused. There's more than a couple Gingerbread themes out there, but thats all they are is themes. There is one EXPERIMENTAL Gingerbread build out, but as such, its not stable and could not be used daily.
Its being worked on, but Samsung has not even released the 2.2 source yet. When that happens, maybe some doors will be opened in that direction.
But as of right now there is NO stable Gingerbread rom, no matter what your friend told you. If there was you would have gotten actual help, instead of some of the less serious responses.
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You guys are ass holes and also idiots. The OP and the guy you quoted asked and stated real things. Just because gingerbread currently isn't stable doesnt mean the guy wasnt running it on his phone.
OP the gingerbread rom can be found in the development forum.
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subzerold said:
You guys are ass holes and also idiots. The OP and the guy you quoted asked and stated real things. Just because gingerbread currently isn't stable doesnt mean the guy wasnt running it on his phone.
OP the gingerbread rom can be found in the development forum.
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Lol. You might as well point the OP to the Odin thread too bc he might need to use it soon.
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subzerold said:
You guys are ass holes and also idiots. The OP and the guy you quoted asked and stated real things. Just because gingerbread currently isn't stable doesnt mean the guy wasnt running it on his phone.
OP the gingerbread rom can be found in the development forum.
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Thanks subzerold ! You are right.... I came here with a serious question and for help and people started posting all types of jokes and nonsense when none of this is needed.
What does OP means ?
So, once I get to the development forum how do I get it and install it on my phone ? Thanks for the information and help. Appreciate it.

[Q] Noob to XDA Dev. Looking to see if I understand this right regarding ICS ROMs.

Hey guys! I've lurked around here for a while. I bought a Samsung Galaxy S II for ATT a few months ago after being a longtime iPhone user. Therefore, I'm fairly new to the whole Android tweaking process. I want to install an ICS ROM onto my phone, particularly CM9. I've read the stickies, and am really trying to understand, but at the same time, do not wish to brick my phone. So could someone tell me if this is correct? Or where I'm wrong? Based on what I've read here, to install ICS, I need to...
1. Root my phone as outlined in the thread for that. (The one about not activating the yellow triangle. Since I'm on 2.3.6, I'll need to use "Odin3 One-Click Downloader".)
2. Backup my apps and texts and crap using Titanium Backup to my SD card.
3. Install the proper kernel (where do I find this?) using Mobile Odin.
4. Make sure CWM is active, backup NAND (I assume this is an option?) and flash CM9.
5. Flash Google Apps.
6. Restore my Ti backup.
Thanks guys for the help! And sorry if I'm being stupid/completely misunderstanding.
Read, useless thread is useless
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Read, read and read some more. Do a search for Hellraiser as there are no true ICS ROMs for this phone yet, only i900 ports.
If you need to ask questions like this, you are not ready for ICS and ICS is not ready for you.
Since I9100 kernel source code has only been out for a week and we had a bunch of I777-specific **** to fix - while lots of progress has been made things are not quite working yet.
man some people are rude in here....
And others are lazy. Welcome to XDA.
There are a lot of different roms. Usually they rewrite the kernel within the install of the rom. But basically you have the right idea...
ChefAnt said:
man some people are rude in here....
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And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
Miami_Son said:
And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
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i service myself occasionally.
Pirateghost said:
i service myself occasionally.
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OK, eww, never touching your keyboard.
Miami_Son said:
And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
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Hey Red.... Were you not just looking for this guy today?
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Miami_Son said:
Read, read and read some more. Do a search for Hellraiser as there are no true ICS ROMs for this phone yet, only i900 ports.
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I missed you.
This thread is terrible...
(Post edited/deleted.. f**k it )
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tylerdurdin said:
Hey Red.... Were you not just looking for this guy today?
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I'm easy to find in here. Just look for someone's stupid post and I'm probably in it.
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tylerdurdin said:
I'm easy to find in here. Just look for someone's stupid post and I'm probably in it.
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well the thread is still open.. so it must serve some purpose right
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This is a legit question. He's done the research and just needs a little reassurance. If you can't help keep your troll mouth shut.
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shadow65781 said:
This is a legit question. He's done the research and just needs a little reassurance. If you can't help keep your troll mouth shut.
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Actually, it isn't a legit question as there is not yet a legit ICS ROM for the i777.
You're logic is just plain wrong. What has that got to do with anything, you just like to troll.
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shadow65781 said:
You're logic is just plain wrong. What has that got to do with anything, you just like to troll.
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Facts are facts, loser. There is not yet a fully-functioning official ICS ROM released for the i777, so any talk of one is premature. The guy admits in the title of this thread that he is a noob and doesn't quite understand. These are exactly the people who should not be flashing ANYTHING, let alone a ROM that is not ready for primetime. But keep on encouraging him and others so that the forum gets filled with people needing help to fix what they messed up. I'm sure you'll be rewarded with tons of adulation for your efforts. Troll indeed.

Is ics almost here?

I just went to check whether an update is released (I was bored) and It said "an update is available for your phone, but the servers are busy." What do you guys think this means? There's a thread on this for the skyrocket too...
I think it was ****ed up that Willy Wonka made Charlie think he didn't win the contest.....
I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!........
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And Red should be in to break his foot off in your ass shortly.
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tylerdurdin said:
I think it was ****ed up that Willy Wonka made Charlie think he didn't win the contest.....
I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!!........
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Thanks for the unhelpful and denegrating response.
shadowskorch said:
Thanks for the unhelpful and denegrating response.
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It's xda... thats 50% of the content.
It's the hidden law that people have to magically know that for the AT&T GS2 forum that you must only post in this thread right here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554561
Just amazing...
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I updated my phone yesterday its lighting fast now and there is this new unicorn wallpaper that is really amazing...
sent on my hacked telly from interspace...
threads like this are useless. For two reasons. A) we already have fully functional ics releases. With less bloat than the official ics will have. And b) use Google search. U can check the status of ics for our device yourself. And grab news about possible release dates.
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yahoowizard said:
It's the hidden law that people have to magically know that for the AT&T GS2 forum that you must only post in this thread right here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554561
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Thank you, I didn't know about that 'hidden law'. Sorry everybody
Phalanx7621 said:
threads like this are useless. For two reasons. A) we already have fully functional ics releases. With less bloat than the official ics will have. And b) use Google search. U can check the status of ics for our device yourself. And grab news about possible release dates.
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This thread is useful for two reasons.
1. Samsung hasn't officially released a date yet and there really hasn't been a word on a Google search as to whether or not ICS has been released for the AT&T Galaxy S2.
2. Not everyone prefers the modified versions of the ROM, and though there is bloat on the AT&T versions, not everyone's incredibly satisfied with the custom ROM's (I am personally, but yeah, not everyone's down for the custom ROM's).
3. If the official ICS did come out, it can provide something or another to make the current custom ROM's better, such as the ability to get Google Wallet (or ISIS) working, for example.
I appreciate that this is a forum for developers, but that still doesn't allow us to flame every new thread that comes on here that's not created by one of the elite or something or another >.>
yahoowizard said:
I appreciate that this is a forum for developers, but that still doesn't allow us to flame every new thread that comes on here that's not created by one of the elite or something or another >.>
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Oh where to start on how wrong you are
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Nick281051 said:
Oh where to start on how wrong you are
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Haha, okay, okay, I've seen that one post about how there's only developers here and whatnot. But yeah, this thread in particular does help developers somewhat, so yeah.
shadowskorch said:
Thanks for the unhelpful and denegrating response.
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You'll face a lot of people like that here lol.
yahoowizard said:
This thread is useful for two reasons.
1. Samsung hasn't officially released a date yet and there really hasn't been a word on a Google search as to whether or not ICS has been released for the AT&T Galaxy S2.
2. Not everyone prefers the modified versions of the ROM, and though there is bloat on the AT&T versions, not everyone's incredibly satisfied with the custom ROM's (I am personally, but yeah, not everyone's down for the custom ROM's).
3. If the official ICS did come out, it can provide something or another to make the current custom ROM's better, such as the ability to get Google Wallet (or ISIS) working, for example.
I appreciate that this is a forum for developers, but that still doesn't allow us to flame every new thread that comes on here that's not created by one of the elite or something or another >.>
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Um that's 3 reasons?
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ChefAnt said:
Um that's 3 reasons?
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And now would be a bad time to tell you that I'm currently studying math in college >.>
But yeah, I was going to counter his two with my two, then I added one later on as I thought of it. Never bothered to change the initial sentence though
Dude. When ICS hits it hits. And if u can't find anything on Google about ics release dates or possible release dates u aren't searching right. Either way when it does drop u go right ahead and flash that buggy bloated OS. I'll stick with my AOKP.
Edit: I sound like a douche in this post. So no more arguing. Hope we get official ics too sometime soon. But odds are I won't flash it anyway ;-p
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yahoowizard said:
Haha, okay, okay, I've seen that one post about how there's only developers here and whatnot. But yeah, this thread in particular does help developers somewhat, so yeah.
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Oh you're right about this being a developers forum but you're completely wrong about the assumptions that only "elite" members can post. You're about as wrong as humanly possible. We only yell at people for threads like these because it does NOT help any developer in any way and this question gets asked over and over again all in separate threads which bog down the forums an leave less room for the more legitimate questions/ posts. And once you've been on here a while you usually know when you should post a thread or when you shouldn't. I've created a total of 2 threads and only one of them was a thread asking a question (the other was for a pair of cm7 themes) and I made sure it hadn't been asked before. Understand a little better?
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yahoowizard said:
This thread is useful for two reasons.
1. Samsung hasn't officially released a date yet and there really hasn't been a word on a Google search as to whether or not ICS has been released for the AT&T Galaxy S2.
2. Not everyone prefers the modified versions of the ROM, and though there is bloat on the AT&T versions, not everyone's incredibly satisfied with the custom ROM's (I am personally, but yeah, not everyone's down for the custom ROM's).
3. If the official ICS did come out, it can provide something or another to make the current custom ROM's better, such as the ability to get Google Wallet (or ISIS) working, for example.
I appreciate that this is a forum for developers, but that still doesn't allow us to flame every new thread that comes on here that's not created by one of the elite or something or another >.>
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I am with you on how this i777 should behave and tone down but you list 3 reasons that I think useless, or should I say "non-productive", here's why
1. If you google/search and find nothing, you MUST think, I mean automatically think, that it is either NOT NOW or NEVER happen. Just like when you search a word and it isn't in the dictionary, you should automatically know that the word is not exist or not being defined yet.
2. custom ROM is for who love to flash, if ones don't want to flash, why would they come here in first place? Moreover, if AT&T decide to release their OFFICIAL ICS for this i777, the owners would get the update automatically, right? Then why stop here anyway
3. If the official ICS did come out? if so, then search/google in step one already yield some results.
Phalanx7621 said:
threads like this are useless. For two reasons. A) we already have fully functional ics releases. With less bloat than the official ics will have. And b) use Google search. U can check the status of ics for our device yourself. And grab news about possible release dates.
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Not everyone roots/roms. I'm waiting on the official update. From past experiences there are people within the industry on this sitewho have information that isn't yet released to the public.

Jellybean?

First I apologize if this has already been asked, I'm using tapatalk and don't know how to search.
Anyway, I realize development takes time. I'm not asking for anything, I just want to know how things work. If anybody can provide insight on how the OG Evo has Jellybean already but the Evo LTE doesn't. I know part of the ordeal is source release and from my understanding the kernel was already released.
Is it because the OG still has wider dev support and not all the devs have made the switch/migrated yet? Is it because we're still waiting on new source to be released?
antwan* said:
First I apologize if this has already been asked, I'm using tapatalk and don't know how to search.
Anyway, I realize development takes time. I'm not asking for anything, I just want to know how things work. If anybody can provide insight on how the OG Evo has Jellybean already but the Evo LTE doesn't. I know part of the ordeal is source release and from my understanding the kernel was already released.
Is it because the OG still has wider dev support and not all the devs have made the switch/migrated yet? Is it because we're still waiting on new source to be released?
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We have very few devs working on porting jelly bean. They have it booting, but thats pretty much it. OG Evo is a better known device and its easier to port things to because the devs already know a lot about it. For us we have to deal with a lot more unexplored things. Rest assured, it is being worked on and CM10 will be here eventually.
There are a bunch of different factors involved. Each device will have different devs working on different things. Many developers support multiple devices, and so we may not always be the first focus.
Ah that's a good point. I can see that now, things still need to be mastered regarding the device. Thank you for the reply and insight.
Welcome to the Lakers, Antwan!
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There are a bunch of different factors involved. Each device will have different devs working on different things. Many developers support multiple devices, and so we may not always be the first focus.
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Not to mention that HTC just released the source for the evoLTE within the past week. Dev's have barely had time to look at it let alone get things ported over.
Buy a nexus
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Posted this in another thread, and thought Hell why not here too?
SDRaver said:
Buy a nexus
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That's an awful idea...
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Posted this in another thread, and thought Hell why not here too?
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Yeah, Deck has a booting CM10... we're in good hands folks.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, Deck has a booting CM10... we're in good hands folks.
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Thank god for Deck...he's one of the few dev's holding us down and giving us something to hope for.

General discussion and RANT thread

Ok guys I am starting this thread due to being told in other threads that I'm not permitted to have opinions and having them removed , or having good questions that are taken as flaming , but don't seem to get answered .
All that I ask is please if you do rant don't name anyone in particular , do not name teams . We do not need mods swooping in and deleting anyone's issues . Thank you .
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I presonally dont think the One XxX rom needed to be locked down.
I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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cbrown245 said:
I totally agree , but there is a thread in developement section that has had tons of talk , but has had NO DEVELOPEMENT in over 4 months which should have been closed until developement continues . But hasn't , but if anyone brings it up their post is deleted and mods threaten them . Just close the dead thread until developement is made . And once again this is just my opinion .
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Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
jon7701 said:
Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Very good point .
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cbrown245 said:
Who is putting down other roms ? All that was said was if the Rom has had no development in months and the thread is being cluttered with irrelevant posts and NO DEVELOPEMENT is being made then that thread alone should be closed until developement is made.
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One XXX was locked down because of CoreDroid tweaks, there is a rom that hasnt been updated in 4 months that has about the same thing, a team has decided that One XXX has to be locked because it contains CoreDroid tweaks, the rom that hasnt been updated for 4 months is supported by the same team.
jon7701 said:
Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but yea i just personally think that if that thread isnt updated, why ruin the fun for the other roms? While i understand that the developer for it is currently busy and cant update it, why put down the other roms that are still being developed?
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Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
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demmo86rt said:
Because they were using stolen code, whether they knew it or not. If they want those threads reopened, I'm sure they could remove the stolen code and put it back out again. If you buy a stolen stereo and it gets found out, whether you know it or not, the stereo gets taken. Ignorance != innocence
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So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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Also please no names and no teams ,,, I don't want anyone getting upset .
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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I think it would just be good if all devs would get along and not bicker over if some code got taken, now when i say this i dont mean its alright to take all the aspects of a rom and make basically the same exact thing, but if its a few bits of code that are the same or similar why take the whole thing down? If all devs were like that we would have quite a few problems, and nothing would be done. I also understand that giving credits would be nice too if any code was taken or used in a rom. Also if they want some code taken out why not PM the dev and ask for it to be taken out instead of having the whole thing locked down? This is just my opinion as well, so if you dont agree with it, I dont care.
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Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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This is a general discussion and RANT thread , everyone here is entitled to their own opinions here , we will not flame here , but yes I believe this thread was needed . As I posted in the op I'm tired of seeing my questions and my posts being deleted due to my opinion not being like . I have read the xda rules and my posts did not violate the rules but were deleted anyways thus me creating a thread where everyone's opinions could be heard . Thank you .
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richii0207 said:
Do we really need this thread? *sigh* the people of today...always in evrryones business
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Its always good to have a vent.
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Its always good to have a vent.
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True, but really all of this should have been kept between the mods and devs. The users whining about it didn't help anything and only worsens the situation. Like we all don't know who you are talking about.
That had been the biggest problem with the rezound, devs doing their fighting and whatnot publicly. Devs like Chad and nils don't do that and if you look in their thread there isn't any of this garbage. They do their work and release it as they see fit, when they see fit.
cbrown245 said:
So , all other roms have stolen code ?
Ok if that logic is correct , it was *****root who ported and fixed code so sense 4 could work on the Rezzy , and he clearly stated to not use his work in his thread , and yet every other sense 4 Rom used it , would that not also be stolen work and now be taken away ????? Hmmmm or does that not apply to anyone outside of team ****m ????
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*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
Yes , but also realize that everyone can come to this thread and discuss or rant about anything from roms to that cop that wrote you a ticket , it doesn't matter that's why its in general discussion . I want a thread where all opinions are equal and someone should not be affraid of the mods coming down on them for their opinions .
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AshtonTS said:
*****root didn't fix any real code. He copied and pasted it from a leaked RUU for the Dinc LTE. He said that for the first month, no one could use his work, but after that he let other devs use it as a base.
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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Well his thread still states not to use it so if his printed words aren't enough then by all means use it , and it don't matter if he cut and pasted anything it was his and he said not to use it , and that is exactly what ****io did and its called a kang , which led to the closing of threads , but the same exact thing is done by others and its ok. That's a double standard .
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That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
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demmo86rt said:
That's because he took it, repackaged it, redistributed it, and sold it, and claimed it as his own. I don't have anything against either of the devs who had their threads closed, AFAIK, nobody's even said they did anything malicious, they may have just gotten caught in the cross fire, but that doesn't mean they get to keep breaking the rules.
Though I can see how you can be ok with people breaking the rules, seeing how you don't even follow your own. A few stars doesn't disguise the fact that you are still using names.
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Actually I let the common adult figure out who I'm talking about , I'm not naming anyone it is you using common sense to see it . And once again one dev says not to use his stuff and it gets used - nothing happens , that same dev who broke the rule gets his stuff used and all hell breaks loose ,,,, why the double standard ? The rules go both ways . Does it not ?
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Thread Is closed as offtopic as it has nothing to do with the device itself.
Rather you are discussing moderating decisions and actions without knowing the background.
Leave this between devs and mods, its not your job to judge.
Consider this a warning and don't start another rant thread or create any more issues.
Thank you

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