Is HBOOT 1.5 really all THAT bad? - HTC EVO 3D

I'm on HBOOT 1.5 and have unlocked my phone the HTC unlock method and from what I've read and understand the only drawback is that I have to use fastboot in order to write to the boot area and properly flash a ROM (which I have done many times and am very familiar with the process), or I can just use the Flash Image GUI app (which I have also used many times). Are there other restrictions I'm not aware of?

petermg said:
I'm on HBOOT 1.5 and have unlocked my phone the HTC unlock method and from what I've read and understand the only drawback is that I have to use fastboot in order to write to the boot area and properly flash a ROM (which I have done many times and am very familiar with the process), or I can just use the Flash Image GUI app (which I have also used many times). Are there other restrictions I'm not aware of?
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Nope, not that bad at all as far as I can tell. I'm running CM9 and love it
like it was my wife. I couldn't care less about more time in the command
prompt because if you don't use it you loose it. My 3D with HB 1.5 has ICS
port and my wife's fully rooted 4G doesn't so I'm feeling pretty good about
my HB 1.5 3D right now!

I don't have hboot 1.5 but I think you can use boot manager also which let's you install multiple roms on your ad card and let's you boot into them.

I blame 1.5hboot HTC method for random reboots and soft freezes

No issues with hboot 1.5 No reboots no nothing just some minor steps when it comes to flashing.
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Don't you guys have to be connected to a computer in order to flash a rom?

oohaylima said:
Don't you guys have to be connected to a computer in order to flash a rom?
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not with flash gui
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oohaylima said:
Don't you guys have to be connected to a computer in order to flash a rom?
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nope just flash in recovery. if the rom has a custom kernel i just use flash img gui and it extracts the kernel and flashes it for you the just reboot in to recovery and flash the rom.
the only thing with 1.5 is we can't flash radios or splash screens.

Excellent. I thought you guys had to go through an elaborate process to install a Rom.

No, not really. Also, intentional brick method ftw.

there are many customization optiom option just like changing splash screen, cpu overclock, and many more for advance user.
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jdeoxys said:
No, not really. Also, intentional brick method ftw.
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I seen that method not a total brick tho if you do brick your phone it will behave like one no power. Dead
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stevestone said:
there are many customization optiom option just like changing splash screen, cpu overclock, and many more for advance user.
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I could already do an overclocked CPU with HBOOT 1.5, so I'm sure I could do the other things you mentioned also. Where can I find splash screens for the EVO 3D? I just did the HBOOT downgrade here because I like a challenge, not because I think I needed to. My wife is still on HBOOT 1.5. I'm just not sure having HBOOT 1.5 is really that bad a thing. I don't think there is anything you can't do with HBOOT 1.5 execpt that you need to use the computer or flash image gui.
EDIT: Oh and I never had any reboot issues or whatnot as someone else associated with HBOOT 1.5. Not that I ever noticed.

hboot 1.5 is not all that bad for your average user.
For "power users" it is a nightmare because it makes it a pain to flash kernels. Okay, maybe not a pain, but still. We like more control over our devices to be able to flash things where ever we'd like. Also, HTC's unlock makes the bootloader unable to accept PG86IMG.zips, which means flashing them via bootloader doesn't work. What does that mean? No "all-in-one" firmware update packages when new software versions are released. Lastly, no splash screen flashing. While this isn't a big deal, it still allows one to further customize their device.
I for one am very happy to be back on eng hboot 1.04 and thanks to the efforts of Unknownforce and everyone involved, this got made possible and for power users, it will make phone exchanges less of a risk.

I dont know... I dont really see the differences

For me personally, yes, its a terrible curse on my phone. For one, I couldn't change that super bright HTC splash screen, also I couldn't make or restore a nandroid backup unless I was fastbooted into recovery, which means I had to be at my computer. Fastbooting into recovery was just a command away, and id unplug from the computer right after booting to recovery so that I wasn't stuck at the computer, but still, I had to have a comp. Lastly, I use boot manager so if I switch roms and it wouldn't boot, I have to flash to the boot partition, which means I had to be at a comp. That happened at work and I was without a phone all day. I was spoiled with s-off on my EVO 4g so its really hard to get used to the HTC unlock. Thankfully, I downgraded and I'm now s-off, and loving it.

xcpefrmreality said:
For me personally, yes, its a terrible curse on my phone. For one, I couldn't change that super bright HTC splash screen, also I couldn't make or restore a nandroid backup unless I was fastbooted into recovery, which means I had to be at my computer. Fastbooting into recovery was just a command away, and id unplug from the computer right after booting to recovery so that I wasn't stuck at the computer, but still, I had to have a comp. Lastly, I use boot manager so if I switch roms and it wouldn't boot, I have to flash to the boot partition, which means I had to be at a comp. That happened at work and I was without a phone all day. I was spoiled with s-off on my EVO 4g so its really hard to get used to the HTC unlock. Thankfully, I downgraded and I'm now s-off, and loving it.
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Does the cwm recovery not allow you to make and restore backups normally then?
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Atomix86 said:
Does the cwm recovery not allow you to make and restore backups normally then?
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A nandroid backs up your boot partition, and when u restore, it writes to boot partition. With htcdev unlock u can't do that unless you fastboot (from comp) to recovery.
And this is kinda weird, but good, with htcdev unlock, cwm wouldn't let my phone charge with power off. Now that I'm 1.4 s-off. It will. Charged all night with power off.

Easy adb and a computer Your all set . Root is easy. Swapping kernels is fine too. Stock kernel isn't bad .
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A nandroid backs up your boot partition, and when u restore, it writes to boot partition. With htcdev unlock u can't do that unless you fastboot (from comp) to recovery.
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I don't see what the problem is. Can you not keep the boot partition the same when backing up and restoring? It never stopped me doing anything when I had an S-On Wildfire S

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[Q] Flashing ROM's on unlocked bootloader

Hey guys,
I'm new to things here. I have done a lot of experimenting though before I'm posting this... and have read A TON of forums trying to find the answers,
I unlocked my Tbolt's bootloader through the HTC method, I've been trying to load CM7, VIRUS, and MIUI rom's and they'll load up into the boot image but will just cycle there and won't go on into the UI.
I've flashed CWK recovery and SU so I don't know why they're not flashing...
The only ROM that I've had success with is the Thunderstick but I don't really like this ROM it's too close to the HTC gingerbread sence
if anyone has any ideas of how I can get CM7 or a VIRUS ROM on my phone please help!!!
Thank you in advanced!!!
The problem you have is because you used the HTC dev unlock method which unlocks the bootloader it leaves you s on. You can't flash custom kernels in recovery with s on which is why you aren't able to boot those roms. Try downloading 4ext recovery. It has a built in tool to flash custom kernels even with s on.
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RMseth said:
...and have read A TON of forums trying to find the answers ... I unlocked my Tbolt's bootloader through the HTC method
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As noted, HTC's tool is certainly deceiving to users looking to "root" their phones. You need "S-OFF" status in order to flash 3rd-party ROMs. I presume you can obtain S-OFF using numerous non-HTC ways. I know that the revolutionary.io method no longer works if your phone has a newer software version of 605.5 - HTC patched the flaw that was being exploited.
yah it's really deceiving... if I would have know this I would have used another way to gain root... but oh well I'll be trying that 4ext recovery control and see if that will work for me THANK YOU!!!
what ROM's have guys been using that you really like for your TBolt?
RMseth said:
yah it's really deceiving... if I would have know this I would have used another way to gain root... but oh well I'll be trying that 4ext recovery control and see if that will work for me THANK YOU!!!
what ROM's have guys been using that you really like for your TBolt?
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So far my two favorites are Killasense and iKream. I really like Thundershed but I couldn't get past some very minor issues with it. Here soon you may see something from me.....
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so I tried flashing 4ext I like it a WHOLE lot better then CWK but the setting that you were talking about with the S-on... it says it's not available for my device.... do ether of you know why that would be? do I need to go in and fix a permission or something...
I tried flashing a ROM that was giving me problems before but it still just loads into the boot.img and then just runs the cycle over and over again.
4ext probably uses the "zerg" exploit which HTC and other manufacturers have patched on various phones, but not all. On the TBolt, for example, I'm not aware of how to gain S-OFF if you're on a s/w version higher than 605.5.
I thought you could downgrade and use the revolutionary tool to unlock and gain s off. After you installed 4ext did you run the app before you restarted and booted into recovery. The first thing it asks is if you have s off. When you select no it sets the recovery up to handle flashing kernels.
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disconnecktie said:
I thought you could downgrade and use the revolutionary tool to unlock and gain s off.
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Sorry if that was confusing... But yes, I believe you have to downgrade to 605.5 to gain S-OFF. If you're on 605.9 or 605.19, there's no exploit that I know of. Ironically, if I recall correctly, you usually weren't able to downgrade or flash an older version but currently VZW/HTC allows it.

Downgrade or no?

Forgive me, but I've been reading and haven't figured out whether or not downgrading from 1.5 to 1.4 is actually needed or what the benefits are. I'm new to the 3D, but not to android, flashing, or unlocking..I just can't seem to find (I'm sure the info is here somewhere) what the difference and advantages/disadvantages between the two. I'm perfectly comfortable downgrading, so I'm just looking for some input.
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Downgrading gives you the ability to have s-off, meaning you are fully rooted and unlocked, meaning you can flash roms and kernels through recovery without using a workaround. You can also flash radios as well.
As always it will give you the ability to flash custom rom's and kernal's as you stated in your post you find out where to start and I suggest you Google rootevo3dnew and its for people that has hboot 1.50 and he makes it very easy to understand and he even makes utube instruction on how to do it thats what I used and I had unlocked bootloader and flashed a custom Rom in less then 15 minutes and he also shows you how to down grade your hboot aswell here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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sitlet said:
Downgrading gives you the ability to have s-off, meaning you are fully rooted and unlocked, meaning you can flash roms and kernels through recovery without using a workaround. You can also flash radios as well.
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From what I hear, 4ext (see my sig) works great for people on hboot 1.5 with HTC unlock. Having said that, I downgraded and am glad I did. It got the blood pumping and taught me a lot about rooting.
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well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
I recommend buying the 4EXT application. Upgrade to a the latest version with smartflash and you can load new roms without using fastboot and a PC. Best money I have spent on an app.
mulhiny said:
well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
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The bricking is the hardest part. Everyones phone is a lol different. Mine was a three second pull for instance. But having s-off is much better. I was unlocked but I was one of the first ones to downgrade . Since then it has been greatly streamlined. Don't give up
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mulhiny said:
well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
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I must have been lucky with that. Mine bricked second attempt (and first attempt I had forgotten to take out the battery, derp). I used a second hand on my clock to time exactly five seconds and it worked. But, as I (and others) have said, 4ext Recovery allows you to flash the ROM and kernel together, so S-Off is not as necessary. Unless of course, you want to flash an ICS ROM...
Just keep your Hboot 1.5. It's not that big of a deal to me because I am used to using the 'workarounds'.
Evo 3d FTW
mpgrimm2 said:
Some additional info for u I had posted for someone else.
1) HTCdev.com's "Bootloader Unlock"(I have a specific Hboot 1.50 Guide posted here & at sdx):
Basically this leaves the bootloader's (Hboot 1.50) security flag on (S-On) but "unlocks the bootloader" (kinda like the phones Bios) so that you can manually flash everything except for Radios (Baseband) and Boot Logo's (Splash Screen). Kernels & roms can be flashed once a custom recovery is installed, but there are "extra" steps involved because the /boot partition (kernel/zImage) can only be set to write access from the Android OS or by initiating custom recovery from a pc's "Fastboot Command Prompt". There are workarounds, some work better than others. To flash Radio updates, you have to relock the bootloader and flash an OEM Full Stock Ruu (Rom Update Utility), kinda like Samsung's Sw Updater for the Transform. You also have to register your device with HTC and it "may void your warranty".
2) Downgrade Bootloader from Hboot 1.50 to 1.40:
This is a recent development by Unknownforce in the last few weeks. Basically involves corrupting the flashing process of the RUU by removing power in the middle of the flash and "bricking it" (more like mostly bricked). It forces the phone into a special eMMC Download mode that can only be fixed by pushing the older bootloader to the phone from a Linux pc. Good thing is that Closeone has a Linux LiveCD.iso that you copy to a USB Drive or CD and temporarily boot to a custom Linux Interface specifically set up for flashing the bootloader.
Once that's done, you rerun an earlier RUU (compatible with Hboot 1.40) to get the phone working fully, then root via "Revolutionary's site" (another fastboot/adb rooting tool) to get S-Off (Full root), load a recovery, update the radio, then you can flash roms & kernels like normal
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Is my EVO 3D rooted?

I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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iTzLOLtrain said:
Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
Jeffmeister said:
I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
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No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No biggie...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the live Linux cd/dvd.
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phillip1953 said:
No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No bigger...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the lived Linux cd/dvd.
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Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
dastin1015 said:
Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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Jeffmeister said:
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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You are rooted just fine. Never heard of half assed rooted.
The only thing is your S-On so the partition where the radio/firmware are, you won't be able to change unless you go S-Off.
To answer your question, you can still flash many roms. Some ICS roms will not work because they require the new radio and firmware. Any GB rom and many ICS you can flash right now with no problems.
If you flash the newest 4ext Recovery, it will save you from having to manually flash the boot.img file separately after you install the rom. Although flashing the boot.img through the adb fastboot is no big deal.
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You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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No such thing as half-assed root. Either you are rooted or not. He just has S-ON meaning he cannot flash a custom PG86IMG.zip from the bootloader. Only PG86IMG.zip that are signed by HTC. Also he is limited to which partitions he can flash to.
Being unlocked is better than being rooted. Think of it as a low-level root. Like being able to tweak your BIOS settings instead of just being the admin user of Windows.
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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negativzeroe said:
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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You must be mistaking. S-ON devices are really hard to brick.
If they weren't HTC would be loosing lots of money.
The least trouble you will have to go by downgrasing is having a security warming on your bootloader which can be fixed by flashing the signed PG86IMG.zip file COMPLETELY.
And FYI, Downgrading isnt the only way possible to gain S-OFF.
There's also Juopunutbear S-OFF which can be found HERE.
Which will only require you to return to stock/unlocked with root access. and a simple wire trick.
Good luck in your future bootloops though and have a nice sunny day..
Jeffmeister said:
I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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I don't understand why some are telling JeffMeister that he is not or just half rooted. If your bootloader says "hboot 1.5 S-ON Unlocked" and you have SU installed, that means you are rooted. Sure the boot partition is read-only, but theres easy ways around it.
I've had hboot 1.5 S-ON since I had my phone. I've never felt the need to get S-OFF because there are tools to get around that now. I've been flashing ROMS back and forth using various methods with no issues. For hboot 1.5 & S-ON users, the latest and greatest is 4EXT recovery. It did an excellent job at flashing custom roms & kernels as if I was S-OFF.
I suggest you read the basics about flashing and roms first. If you do use 4EXT Recovery, make sure "4EXT Smart Flash" is enabled(it will prompt you on first use).

[Q] H-Boot 1.5 S-on Latest 4EXT flashed kernel now every rom boot loops

I attempted to flash a new kernel through 4ext and now everything boot loops no matter what. Just goes past splash and reboots. when i boot back into 4ext it says smartflash is set to fix boot.img after reboot, even though it reboots infinitely.
From reading the threads, it seems that Smart Flash does not flash ICS kernels properly. Neither does Flash Image GUI. Have you tried flashing the kernel through Fastboot?
Having asked that, I do recommend S-off as that seems to give the least amount of problems for most people with respect to ICS.
coal686 said:
From reading the threads, it seems that Smart Flash does not flash ICS kernels properly. Neither does Flash Image GUI. Have you tried flashing the kernel through Fastboot?
Having asked that, I do recommend S-off as that seems to give the least amount of problems for most people with respect to ICS.
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for some reason the wire trick refuses to read my phone
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for some reason the wire trick refuses to read my phone
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I've read that it took some people a dozen tries. You could downgrade your hboot if you don't mind soft bricking the phone.
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I did the juonutbear S-OFF on mine and it worked perfectly...the secret no one tells you is to use the left hole (there are two holes and the right one does not touch the part you need it to). And as far as boot loops go, if you dont want to S-OFF, use the Anthraxleak kernal.

First time root, need help!

So I already had an HTC Rezound for a year and was too afraid to root-so I bought an already rooted rezound from eBay that came with a 16 gig recovery sd card. I don't know what to do or how to flash a Rom or what I should do as a root noob... Can I please get some guidance from an experienced person?
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undeadking said:
So I already had an HTC Rezound for a year and was too afraid to root-so I bought an already rooted rezound from eBay that came with a 16 gig recovery sd card. I don't know what to do or how to flash a Rom or what I should do as a root noob... Can I please get some guidance from an experienced person?
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Any idea what's on it now? Check the rom info in Settings, About Phone.
Also power it off, pull the battery, put it back in and turn the phone back on while holding Volume down, that'll get you the bootloader. See what version you have and if it's s-on or s-off.
From there you can select Recovery on the menu and boot into it, see what recovery you have.
Let us know and we can go from there.
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Looks like just the stock rom. What version hboot, are you s-on/off and what recovery do you have?
Just did what you said and took some pictures that i will post to show you what I'm working with.
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Is this the right information that you needed to know?
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Is this the right information that you needed to know?
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You are already unlocked and have Amon Ra recovery installed, the "hard" stuff is done (actually it's not hard), and FYI you are S-ON... You are pretty good to go for any ICS based ROM. If you want to move into JellyBean or KitKat based ROMs you should switch to TWRP or CWM Recovery. Other than that, your good to go.
Ok, thanks a bunch! Ive done tons of reading about flashing roms and am still a little weary about the actual process. Ive read that a computer is needed in some cases but in others people are switching roms right from their phone- whats the safest or correct way to do it?
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undeadking said:
Ok, thanks a bunch! Ive done tons of reading about flashing roms and am still a little weary about the actual process. Ive read that a computer is needed in some cases but in others people are switching roms right from their phone- whats the safest or correct way to do it?
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Although there are ways around it (that I don't recommend, mind you) the rule of thumb is based on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF...
When S-ON, a computer has to be involved so that the boot.img can be loaded... you must either: A) flash the boot.img manually with fastboot after flashing the ROM in recovery, or B) boot the recovery image file with fastboot and flash the ROM file
When S-OFF, no computer is required, all partitions of the phone are writable by recovery directly.
acejavelin said:
Although there are ways around it (that I don't recommend, mind you) the rule of thumb is based on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF...
When S-ON, a computer has to be involved so that the boot.img can be loaded... you must either: A) flash the boot.img manually with fastboot after flashing the ROM in recovery, or B) boot the recovery image file with fastboot and flash the ROM file
When S-OFF, no computer is required, all partitions of the phone are writable by recovery directly.
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Don't forget you can use the phone (or a computer) to pack the boot.img into a PH98IMG.zip. As long as it boots, that is.
Hi All,
I am also new at rooting the Rezound and I'm having trouble. I did quite a bit of reading and followed the instructions here: theunlockr.com/2012/08/24/how-to-root-the-htc-rezound-video/
Apparently this was for an older version because I can't install ClockworkMod Recovery ("an error occurred ..."). I read that getting a backup of ClockworkMod Recovery was the best thing to do before installing any ROMs. Is that really necessary? It seems like I could always find an RUU on this site and flash back to ICS if I wanted to right?
Can some one point me in the right direction for what I should do next? Basically all I want to do is flash a ROM on my Rezound that will enable me to use it as a wall controller for my home automation system. So, ideally I'd like to remove the swipe to unlock feature (just be able to press the power button to get to the home screen) and to be able to force a nightly reboot with Tasker and remove as much bloatware as possible. This device is connected to my home network through wifi only. Any ideas what the best ROM would be for that?
By the way my recovery screen looks like undeadking's. I have S-On.
Thanks!
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Easiest way to get where you want is to HTC unlock if not already done,
S-0ff with RumRunner, then follow this thread with all its great stuff:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770
You will end up with newest radios that are best for newer stock and custom roms.
There are several daily-user type custom roms mentioned in Development.
After you read a little about each, you'll know what you want to try first.
I like the custom Sense roms for best battery life.
michaelbsheldon said:
Easiest way to get where you want is to HTC unlock if not already done,
S-0ff with RumRunner, then follow this thread with all its great stuff:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770
You will end up with newest radios that are best for newer stock and custom roms.
There are several daily-user type custom roms mentioned in Development.
After you read a little about each, you'll know what you want to try first.
I like the custom Sense roms for best battery life.
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Thanks, I was able to get my ROM working. The problem I was having was I was still S-ON. I was a little leery about turning it off so I found instructions for flashing with it still on here: androidforums.com/rezound-all-things-root/499172-how-manually-flash-roms.html
I installed the LiquidSmooth ROM and I was able to disable the lock screen. Thanks again.
acejavelin said:
Although there are ways around it (that I don't recommend, mind you) the rule of thumb is based on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF...
When S-ON, a computer has to be involved so that the boot.img can be loaded... you must either: A) flash the boot.img manually with fastboot after flashing the ROM in recovery, or B) boot the recovery image file with fastboot and flash the ROM file
When S-OFF, no computer is required, all partitions of the phone are writable by recovery directly.
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There are ways using terminal emulator with an s-on device alongside using a proper busybox installation to flash without using a pc and no fastboot/hboot access is needed. flashing a boot.img while in rom, rebooting to recovery and finish installing the matching rom by flashing its zip.
petewill8 said:
Thanks, I was able to get my ROM working. The problem I was having was I was still S-ON. I was a little leery about turning it off so I found instructions for flashing with it still on here: androidforums.com/rezound-all-things-root/499172-how-manually-flash-roms.html
I installed the LiquidSmooth ROM and I was able to disable the lock screen. Thanks again.
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the one big issue you need to worry about while being s-on is if you soft brick while s-on there is absolutely almost no fix...with s-off you con ruu.exe to safely restore your phone which you cannot do while s-on....if you plan on flashing custom roms alot than i HIGHLY suggest going s-off or you'll regret not doing so when that time comes
REV3NT3CH said:
the one big issue you need to worry about while being s-on is if you soft brick while s-on there is absolutely almost no fix...with s-off you con ruu.exe to safely restore your phone which you cannot do while s-on....if you plan on flashing custom roms alot than i HIGHLY suggest going s-off or you'll regret not doing so when that time comes
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I second this... S-Off is highly recommended, it might not seem necessary now, but when something goes wrong, you will be glad you did it.
Thank you both. I had not read that before. I guess I will be performing the S-Off after all.
Don't freak out if your ROM doesn't boot after running rum runner happened to me xD just go into recovery and flash your stuff again. Clean flash it. Make sure you're s-off though Lol hopefully doesn't happen to you
Sent from my Rezound. CyanogenMod 11. S-off
pball52998 said:
Don't freak out if your ROM doesn't boot after running rum runner happened to me xD just go into recovery and flash your stuff again. Clean flash it. Make sure you're s-off though Lol hopefully doesn't happen to you
Sent from my Rezound. CyanogenMod 11. S-off
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Just do a quick backup of your ROM in recovery then when done restore it.
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Just a thing. All my recoveries failed all 4, they would do the same thing and boot loop itself. *sigh* o well.
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