I used to have a nokia phone: N900, and a lower end Android phone: LG optimus V. The Nokia has superb VOIP calling quality with their building client, I can't tell the difference at all when on WiFi network. LG is a bit worse, but sipdroid were good enough for non-serious conversation. GrooveIP/3CXphone also works.
However, with droid X2, it is such a disappointment. I cannot hear the other party at all with SipDroid, nor can they hear me, even I only allow GSM codec. With GrooveIP, it is ok for me to hear, but the other party always have issues. 3CXphone does not even work with my local server (I have verified the setting many times on my Optimus). I am always using it on wifi network. Meanwhile my desktop client has no issue at all.
I am still running the stock rom since I heard Eclipse has a pretty bad battery life. Also, I kind of like the blur interface. Regardless, I googled a little bit, one post complained the same issue.
Just want to check whether you guys have the same issue? Any know solution? Does customized rom help at all?
Thx
You could try the 2.3.6 "nandroid port" it is totally non-verizon if they might be messing your
Sop/voip. It's in the DEV section.
I use grooveIP and cm7 was the best quality I had. You have to kill everything that is using data and hope it doesn't Start back up again.
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I dont know if this is of any relevance to anyone but I just thought I'd post something I've noticed on the 2.1 update from O2.
Facebook now tells me i can download a version for my DESIRE, rather than my Streak (which it did on 1.6)
Have O2 modified a Desire ROM to get 2.1 out there? Might explain the volume and accelerometer issues? Or then again i could be completely wrong!
Right now i just hope bluetooth call quality is fixed......
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I dont know if this is of any relevance to anyone but I just thought I'd post something I've noticed on the 2.1 update from O2.
Facebook now tells me i can download a version for my DESIRE, rather than my Streak (which it did on 1.6)
Have O2 modified a Desire ROM to get 2.1 out there? Might explain the volume and accelerometer issues? Or then again i could be completely wrong!
Right now i just hope bluetooth call quality is fixed......
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i noticed it too, might explain why i'm having internet issues with my phone.
Hmm.what internet issues are you having?
Mine seems OK, although I prefer the old browser for functionality. Also not impressed with the email client - can't handle wifi connection for sending mail whereas the old one worked fine (or swapped to mobile automatically? either way it worked with wifi on)
on the plus side - bluetooth phone calls through my car's head unit seem fixed now, compared to the stuttery rubbish I had on 1.6. Volume is lower though (or was that the problem in the first place? )
I'd be really happy with this 2.1 BUT for the volume control issue and the "reversed" accelerometer (oh and the new home screens are pants compared to the old ones). It's certainly more stable than 1.6, mind.
The streak REALLY does need a good 2.2 build though - Flash capability is essential for a device like this: O2 and Dell pay attention cos this device is only a shade off being the most awesome thing out there!! (IMO of course!)
If Dell wouldn't violate GPL and released sources for Streak kernel, I'm more than sure that we would have a working CyanogenMod-6 for Streak by now.
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Hmm.what internet issues are you having?
Mine seems OK, although I prefer the old browser for functionality. Also not impressed with the email client - can't handle wifi connection for sending mail whereas the old one worked fine (or swapped to mobile automatically? either way it worked with wifi on)
on the plus side - bluetooth phone calls through my car's head unit seem fixed now, compared to the stuttery rubbish I had on 1.6. Volume is lower though (or was that the problem in the first place? )
I'd be really happy with this 2.1 BUT for the volume control issue and the "reversed" accelerometer (oh and the new home screens are pants compared to the old ones). It's certainly more stable than 1.6, mind.
The streak REALLY does need a good 2.2 build though - Flash capability is essential for a device like this: O2 and Dell pay attention cos this device is only a shade off being the most awesome thing out there!! (IMO of course!)
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hey, the internet issues i'm talking about is that prior to updating to the official 2.1 02 update everything was groovy, now when i try to connect to the internet from my provider it sends me to wipcore.t-mobile.com to sign up for a data plan. i have the android plan which worked flawlessly before. really is a big let down.
that seems a bit weird - even on wifi? I'm on an O2 £35 a month package with the data bolt on. Didn't have to do anything after the update apart from reset the email provider details.
The only data issue i've had so far is being unable to send emails whilst connected to wifi (will another email client fix this?)
@smokku: what does cyanogen-6 do? Fairly new to Android after many years of Windows Mobile use.....
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@smokku: what does cyanogen-6 do? Fairly new to Android after many years of Windows Mobile use.....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
In short: It is most known custom build of Android OS. Version 6 is based on Froyo (2.2).
thanks!
and yeah you're right, it's a shame we can't get that onto the streak!
A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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I don't think there's WiFi calling on p500 ROMs so that might be a problem.
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Your best bet, go with GingerLOL, it has the best battery life I have heard from any user who is using official gingerbread, our phones never came with the official gingerbread, atleast not that I know about, I'm in the US, figured all OpT devices that aren't rooted are still on froyo....as far as price range, I'm not sure but you might be able to grab em off eBay for alittle under a hundred bucks
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
This link will take you to ciaox one in all Opt page, great use of information...each rom is separate by version
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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Isn't that froyo based?
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A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
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Judging by the phones you've listed you're in the U.S. The HTC Wildfire S is the cheapest GB Android with native WiFi calling.
1. Any T-Mobile Android includes native WiFi Calling via Kineto and works really well.
2. Gingerbread with WiFi calling on the Optimus T is a no go. Froyo only.
3. Really depends, "moderate" isn't descriptive enough.
4. Opt T has a plastic screen, screen protector is a must.
Also, consider Wifi calling via GrooveIP which uses Google Voice and is FREE. Call quality isn't top notch and receiving calls via WiFi doesn't work well. Upside, it'll work on any Android and with all carriers.
Cheapest option. A SOHO ATA with a standard cordless phone. I love my OBi100
For battery life i suggest getting an extended battery pack. Using your phone as a "data terminal" and wanting to have 12 hours is near impossible
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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I understand now. In that case any phone would work. However, Gingerbread is only available via an unofficial port. I'm currently using miks unofficial port of CM7 6.5.8 (Gingerbread) on my Optimus T and it's stable and bug free for daily use IMO.
The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
I suggest you buy a couple and see how it goes. There's a 30 day return policy so you have nothing to loose (except time).
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The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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As a user I remember battery life was better when I connected to a STUN server. I've only used SIP on Android connecting via the internet, you're right it's useless in your scenario.
Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Most of my (expected) use is to replace what goes over the walkie-talkies, stuff like "come to the office" or "Bob, go to the back gate", which tends to be short and not terribly latency sensitive. I'll probably try it, but it won't go live for a couple months.
There's a nifty spec for push-to-talk-over-cellular, which is actually a 3GPP-written SIP extension, which is way, way, way beyond anything the SIP stack in Android is capable of dealing with at this point. Oh, well...
Has anyone gotten the tmobile wifi calling app to work with the optimus t on gingerbread based roms? I have found packages for roms based on android version 2.2 but none for gingerbread.
Thanks
Other question: did you flash your Optimus T to Android 2.3 ?
I am still on 2.2.2 and would like to test 2.3 - I heard you can get a 2 to 2.5 speed improvement with custom roms.
Yes I have 2.3 on it. I put an unofficial version of cyanogenmod on it. As for the speed, it is considerably faster than 2.2. My quadrant slandered score was around 900. The only thing I am missing now is wifi calling.
@cekuhnen I'm running 2.3.7 (Arc_OS) on my Optimus T. Besides being a lot faster, the battery lasts a lot better on it. I can usually get 16-24 hours on my phone. Even if you want to keep running on Froyo, they have some good ROMs for that as well. My wife is running #void froyo-final on hers and it works a lot better and faster than stock.
@harelb I havent seen any wifi calling for 2.3 but if I do, I'll send you a message.
Thanks, I managed to install the wifi calling app but it won't connect to the t-mobile network. It comes up with the error: "You are currently not registered with eh T-mobile network. Would you like to register to enable wifi calling?" Pressing register does nothing.
AmeriKan47 can you help me with getting Android 2.3 onto my Optimus?
I was reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394007
But honestly I have no real clue about all the steps I need to take and software to download. Better battery and faster performance would be great
I would be very happy in case you could tell me what I need to do.
Sorry for being such a nOOb at xda
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@cekuhnen I'm running 2.3.7 (Arc_OS) on my Optimus T. Besides being a lot faster, the battery lasts a lot better on it. I can usually get 16-24 hours on my phone. Even if you want to keep running on Froyo, they have some good ROMs for that as well. My wife is running #void froyo-final on hers and it works a lot better and faster than stock.
@harelb I havent seen any wifi calling for 2.3 but if I do, I'll send you a message.
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Thanks, I managed to install the wifi calling app but it won't connect to the t-mobile network. It comes up with the error: "You are currently not registered with eh T-mobile network. Would you like to register to enable wifi calling?" Pressing register does nothing.
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I remember I found WIFI calling online and installed it on my Optimus V10l and I got the same error message. Wifi calling was missing on this version when I bought the phone.
With V10S (I bricked my phone with the LG update and found this image to recover it) I noticed that now WIFi calling works.
Thus I assume this might be an incompatibility on your side.
I switched to use SKYPE and other VOIP callers when on WIFI.
Too bad Google Talk does not allow calls via the smartphone as you can do from a desktop PC.
I managed to make a wifi calling that "runs" on gingerbread by modifying this package. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116268
I changed the wifi calling app to the one found on the lg g2x. The app runs fine but when I try to enable wifi calling I get W005.4 Tmobile Network Error. I managed to get rid of the register on the tmoible network. Any ideas?
The file is attached below.
I've found that GrooVe IP works perfectly as it uses Google Voice to connect calls. I use my Optimus on Wifi only. GrooVe IP is a $4.99 paid app but well worth it imo. Of course there are ways to get GrooVe Ip apk without paying but you never know what you are getting when you go that route.
I am running aokp mix and I'm having pretty bad call quality. I tried both jokersax and Turks latest releases of cm9, and they r no better. I was wondering if there is a way to improve call quality. I have good service where I'm at and I'm pretty sure the other people do to. Is there a better Tom to use for call quality? The audio I'm getting is pretty distorted. Any advice is helpfull.
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I am running aokp mix and I'm having pretty bad call quality. I tried both jokersax and Turks latest releases of cm9, and they r no better. I was wondering if there is a way to improve call quality. I have good service where I'm at and I'm pretty sure the other people do to. Is there a better Tom to use for call quality? The audio I'm getting is pretty distorted. Any advice is helpfull.
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Try CM7. I always had good quality from it. If not, then you could try out a blur based rom.
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I just switched from stock to CM seven and the only thing issue so far is the call quality. Using an Atrix 4g on ATT network. If anyone has advice on how to improve it please let me know because it's so bad that I might actually have to move back to stock due to this. The ROM is amazing but i just listened to a voicemail from myself and now understand why people have been complaining. Thanks.
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I tried calling into listen to my voicemails at work and it took nearly five minutes for the mailbox number and access code to be received correctly by the system. Often when entering the mailbox number the system would receive two of a number when I only pressed the button once.
I do not suspect the mic or audio processing on the phone's side since dragon go is working great at recognizing my speech. I have also noticed that my computer speakers are picking up much more interference than they did in the past.
Are the algorithms / interfaces / etc which handle transmit/receive of phone calls built into the ROMs causing call qualities to be different from one ROM/phone/carrier to another?
Just used the voicemail phonetree several times without a single issue. Call quality is ok now too. Not sure what changed. Hopefully I can isolate what causes the poor quality.
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
will try
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
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It could also b that vzw does not support it in jb. I cant find the app with my nexus on the market but installed and it worked on a custom rom.
I am hoping once custom rom will b released I can try.
I have an OG droid. I can extract the app from there.
I did install several apps 1.6.0.0 and the latest. None of them work.
One tells me that this app works only on verizon the others that there is a better version of skype.
My gripe is with the main skype app. Poor. Heavy on resources, a lot of data, battery, cpu, does not have BT working.
I cannot use when moving it sounds horrible and I am in a very good LTE area. That app works fine while still in a spot with good LTE connection or WiFi.
I love the original skype because is a simple verizon "phone call". No, it does not uses minutes since is a in network call, and the BT works. It always did. Also there is not data used almost at all
I use skype a lot with people abroad and is as good as any phone call but free and I can get the reliability of VZW network.
Now I have my GN with me and the Note 2 as well. Not a pleasant solution
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Abe
Wow, I totally forgot about this.
Yeah, that would be cool as hell to use minutes and bluetooth.
Wonder if there are any existing XDA modded versions.
Some google searching is turning up repeated mentions of such a mod .apk.
So infuriating that newest skype doesn't support bluetooth.
GRRR
Some people point to mono audio app in market as a way to force routing audio to bluetooth. This may be a partial solution fwiw.
I have RAZR Maxx HD and when I was on ICS there was a way to do it... when I tried to send an IM using Skype, it was automatically loading "Verizon's version" of Skype and then I could call anybody and anyone could call me using verizon's cellular network (not data)... not anymore... JB plugged the hole and many other. Courtesy of Verizon wireless, where customer comes last and primary goal is to milk us and generate hefty profits and bonuses... darn it.
JB vs ICS
I might be JB vs ICS. I have a Gnexus ( toro) with custom JB on it and it works fine.
I am hoping that some aosp rom would make this app work again.
I have tried in a store all the motorola and the S3 not of them would run this light Skype.
I think it has to do with the model number.
Ok. I found a way to do it. Uninstall new Skype and install "Verizon's" skype.
Next click on People and choose IM and person's nick you wanna call (it has to be assigned as skype contact) it will take you to "Verizon" skype and no need to use data.